For your info the requests coming from the range of IP connected with the AWS server have been blocked in entrance on the firewall.

My nickname is ilario3

Hallo, I summarize the discussion had with Valerio. For Wikimini in 2023 there is the plan to rollout in the Swiss national languages (discussion already had with Laurent) and we have a plan also to make it known in the schools within Wikimedia CH planning. In addition I am already centralnotice admin in Wikipedia and I can reuse the banner I use in Wikipedia which is responsive and already tested within Mediawiki.

Credo che con questa versione sia più facilöe capire: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_WMCH/Respectful_behavior_space_policy_of_Wikimedia_CH_-_online_version

Non dobbiamo confondere i partecipanti con gli organizzatori. Stiamo dando le policy per i partecipanti.

It must be considered also the owners of the databases. In case you collect data of participants (i.e. survey), it must be clear that these policies are not sufficient. But here it will be a problem of the person managing the data.

La space policy è solo per evitare che qualcuno faccia attacchi personali e che possa creare un clima poco adatto e questo è solo qualcosa che riguarda la comunità e non ha specifiche conseguenze legali, la privacy policy deve seguire questioni più legali. Poiché le persone che partecipano possono avere la cam spenta e usare un nickname e volendo anche un proxy, difatti il controllo è "lasco".

Ho riaperto assegnando qui solo la questione Safe space policy.

In T253925#6179932, @Iopensa wrote:

Il testo usato nelle diverse edizioni della itwikicon della friendly space policy è qui https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ItWikiCon/man#Friendly_Space_Policy

Sarebbe utile metterlo anche nel sito internet del progetto https://www.itwikicon.org così non si pone più il problema per le prossime edizioni.

Dovete separarli.

Visto il tempo a disposizione, si fa un form di registrazione e le persone danno i dati se vogliono ricevere un gadget. Per evitare casini, il form, le regole di protezione dei dati e altro, se le sbologna chi fornisce i gadget.

Qui si parla di space policy. La privacy policy non è inclusa. Comunque dipende cosa chiedete. Se serve solo un nickname, niente poaranoie, niente responsabile dei dati, niente responsabilità giuridiche. Se poi le persone vogliono registrarsi a newsletter o ad altro, si fa un form con il consenso dei dati che sarà responsabilità di chi ha il database. Non mischiamo pezzi di legge con una cosa che è più semplice di quanto appare.

Quella svizzera è una revisione di quella WMF ma abbiamo incluso di recente proprio le policy per sessioni offline. Quella di WMF è designata soprattutto per eventi offline.

Questi non sono special guests ma sono relatori come gli altri

@Quiddity here the descriptions:

I suggest to use the form of Wikimedia Switzerland to manage this aspect in case you have unpaid bills. In general Sabine/Marie-Louise process the forms at the end of each month and refund at the middle of the next month.

Yes, absolutely, but there is to check if they can be sent. For me it was impossible to send the batteries of the drone cause the size of the batteries (considered to much dangerous). No shipment service accepted them.

About camera, please consider that recently the lithium batteries are considered "dangerous goods" (https://www.ups.com/es/en/help-center/packaging-and-supplies/special-care-shipments/batteries.page). I had no possibility to send a drone in Germany cause this limitation.

In my opinion it makes sense to give a prize also to the local team organizing the event and having the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd winner. This may increase and motivate the local teams.

In T169436#3511954, @Terfili wrote:

Just an update, after one month of voting (https://rm.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:La_pinta#Votaziun), a majority is in favor of German over English or Italian. Sadly, participation was not very high, but most of the users who participated concurred with user Capricorn4049, who commented that "every Romansh also understands German. On the Rumantsch radio and television as well they translate it when for example someone in an interview speaks English or Italian, but not if someone speaks German." (my translation).

About Gion and Gion-andri we are speaking about prehistory (last edits 2010 and 2012 respectively) and we know that they probably contributed within a projects supported by the Canton.

An example to explain the advantage to work with similarities.

Please don't involve a political position, I am using a very practical position. It has been asked here to give a suggestion and I am giving a suggestion avoiding to do the same mistake we did in the past and having (still now) a lack of volunteers in Rhaeto-Romansh projects.

There is already a message in La pinta but the romansh community in Wikipedia is pretty dormient cause the use of Rumantsch Grischun that is not used in the normal daily use. As I said we used the Italian Wikisource to store Rhaeto-Rumantsch texts because the Italian communitay is willing to help (https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Categoria:Testi_in_romancio and https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Categoria:Testi_in_ladino). As Wikimedia Switzerland we are monitoring a lot the Romansh projects and the most active are in Italian Wikisource which we are trying to help and to increase.

Grisons is trilingual. I know this and I can add that the endangered situation of Romansh is caused exactly by the imposition of the use of German in some contexts. But at this point we can still keep English because it's known not only by Grisons but by the majority of users. We are speaking about similar languages. German is not a neolatin languages. Italian is the closest and can preserve an identity. To have Italian like fallback means using a similar language which is understable by all Romansh speakers for their trinlingualism and to do'nt close the doors to Ladin speakers living in Italy. Let's say that of we consider the whole Rhaeto-romansh the Italian is privileged and the hope is to group here the whole family of Rhaeto-romansh dialects (this is the single Solution i see to give a sense to these Rhaeto-romansh projects).

Yes, it makes sense.

Hi, Romansh is spoken in Grisons but there is the Rumantsch Grischun whihc is an artificial language not spoken but understable by all romansh speakers. They speak instead some regional versions. The most close language is Ladin dialects spoken in South Tyrol and Trentino which have a big variety of local versions. Furlan is included in the family of Rhaeto-Romansh but this inclusion is considered like an enforcement. So Romansh and Ladin can cohabite. Attention! When we speak about Ladin we speak about this language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladin_language and not about Ladino (which is frequently associated). The most similar language to the family of Rhaeto-Romansh is Italian, surely. In case to choose a fallback language, I agree that Italian can be the most valid solution. Romansh speakers can understand easily Italian. The problem we have, like Wikimedia CH, is exactly to extend the Romansh projects to include also Ladin dialects (mainly in Wikisource) and the solution to fallback in Italian may help because Ladin speakers are also Italian speakers.

Yes, interesting also to share knowledge.

Yes please. These weeks I am snowed.

Thank you. I have been organizing the General Assembly of WM CH.

It's up to you. ideally we can update it until the committee review (start of April).

Yes, they allow but the "retention with permission" is like having a new grant and asking to the fiscal sponsor to continue to manage it. For that I suggest to proceed with a rapid grant. The most suitable solution is to receive immediately the exact cost (basically what will be indicated in the invoice) and to put it in the current budget. After to inform the grant administrator that this invoice will be provided later. But it means that the fiscal sponsor will not receive the reimbursement and will not close the fiscal sponsorship until that invoice because the fiscal sponsor is anticipating the payments.

The report of WLM 2016 has been submitted (deadline 10th March). The block of the budget 2016 would have blocked the submission of the proposal for 2017 (deadline 14th March). The proposed solutions were not suitable because not manageable in emergency. The proposal is to apply for a rapid grant.

Draft ready: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WLM_2017_grantRequest
Project moved to Draft proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Browse_applications

I confirm that the grantmaking team has accepted the extension

Deadline 10th March.

The report is to be done one month after the end of the grant. It means end of March, but the new grant can be delivered only if the old one is closed. Ideally I would close it at the end of February.

It depends. What is the expected cost?

The budget is available until 28th February. We can ask for a delay if required.

I suggest to move it to the link I provided to accept comments from the community. The grant is good, I don't see anything that can block it. I suggest to indicate the values of the budget also in USD. Stress that Nigeria will participate for the first time, this is already a success.

May provide the link? There is nothing here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Browse_applications

I have received an answer from Wikimedia CH, I am checking with the accountant.