In T283006#7108976, @MMiller_WMF wrote:

Thanks for this idea, @Iniquity. We have definitely heard the complaint several times from newcomers that they open up suggested articles that actually no longer need the work suggested by the maintenance template. I agree this would be a valuable structured task for experienced users: for suggested articles that have been recently edited by newcomers, inspect them to see if the template should be removed. This could even be something we give to more advanced newcomers, like newcomers who have done over 100 suggested edits with few reverts. What do you think of that?

@Urbanecm thanks a lot! :)

When will this issue be fixed? It's very scary to look at the wiki :)

Yes, it is a good idea to separate "mentor quits" and "reassigning mentees", thanks for it! :)

In T274031#7103411, @Amire80 wrote:

Links: templates to find articles that need more links.

In T282132#7102030, @Urbanecm wrote:

In T282132#7090630, @Iniquity wrote:

Well then I think we can turn it off :)

Was the on wiki discussion finished already?

Yes :)

Ps; I do work for Growth team, but I'm working on this in my volunteer time. Hence, replying via my volunteer acc.

@Urbanecm_WMF @kostajh we can remove the Flow, do we need to do something else? :)

Also affect on #siteSub.

@Yurik hi :) can you help with this issue?

In T282898#7092339, @RHo wrote:

Thanks @Iniquity - saved me a search :p

You are welcome :)

In T282743#7092185, @RHo wrote:

Thanks @Iniquity for filing this task. It is definitely in my sights for the upcoming quarter as part of an entire design overhaul of the Impact module (the parent task).
I have started designs already which has explorations to make the distinction between the views stats page and link to the article as 2 links clearer. Links to the Figma file explorations are here if you're interested (but please note these are Work in progress! :)):
https://www.figma.com/file/fOa1x7hw6EM9VnaMJv7vib/Positive-reinforcement?node-id=0%3A1

Ok, I will waiting with you :) Thanks! Stalled on T274520.

In T282985#7092032, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

Hello, thanks for creating the task! The special page is supposed to be already cached for an hour (first load takes longer time [as the page is computing the counts], subsequent loads finish quickly).

I agree that they are confusing. Left only a link to the main page.

In T282712#7088544, @MMiller_WMF wrote:

Thanks, @Iniquity. We've talked about this a little bit, but haven't done anything to filter out articles that might not be best as the first articles for newcomers to see. If there were a template or category that was on such pages, it would be easy to filter them out, but I don't know that such a uniform template/category exists. I understand the idea of NSFW filters on images, but in this case, I think what we would be trying to filter out are articles that may contain such images (or even surprising content that is not images). Maybe we can think about this more in the future.

In T282898#7089062, @MMiller_WMF wrote:

@RHo -- could you please comment on this task or remind me our current thinking around this? I think there may already be a task about it.

Well then I think we can turn it off :)

In T282132#7090620, @Urbanecm wrote:

In T282132#7090601, @Iniquity wrote:

In T282132#7088263, @Urbanecm wrote:

It's not different, but I don't think the first step (exporting current flow boards to wikitext) can be done locally.

Hey! I want to clarify, just in case, your converter will do it differently than here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Flow/Архив2? :)

That page doesn't sound to exist?

In T282132#7088263, @Urbanecm wrote:

It's not different, but I don't think the first step (exporting current flow boards to wikitext) can be done locally.

Hey! I want to clarify, just in case, your converter will do it differently than here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Flow/Архив2? :)

There is a @putnik 's script that can be used as a base for thinking :)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-NSFW.js

Yes, I confirm Trizek's words, we have very few active projects in RuWiki for example, some of which are not even presented in the topics. It can be inconvenient for a beginner to get into an inactive project. We might think about setting that would create a table with active projects. This table would be filled in by administrators.

In T132308#7081758, @Jc3s5h wrote:

1. 1. This thread is about internationalizing Citoid dates. General reduction of the number of different date formats is much broader, and should probably be addressed in a different forum.
2. Iniquity does not define "technical date", and defining the scope of the discussion is critical. For example, 29 February 1700 was observed in London but cannot be represented in EDTF or ISO 8601.

Dates from the cytoid are inserted into a huge number of sources, the format of which is looked at and users try to copy it to other places. This is a completely new mechanic, which if introduced en masse. These formats are also needed in the dates of birth and death, or in the dates of the work. I can't tell users: "oh sorry, it works for us here, but not here for some unknown reason. How can we do the same? We don’t know. MediaWiki do not support this template.". Code first, tools second. We can't do the opposite.

In T132308#7081646, @Pigsonthewing wrote:

The issue of how to represent uncertain or limited-precision dates is not a "problem of only English Wikipedia".

I agree that this is not only a problem of the English Wikipedia, but it was solved only for it, the rest of the communities had to fix what was broken. This is not done in normal communities. First, the base is made, then the standard is changed.

In T132308#7078024, @Jc3s5h wrote:

In T132308#7077938, @Iniquity wrote:

... I want to open RfC about dates and time on meta (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment), do you think this platform will be successful for the issue of standardization of dates?

If someone starts an RFC, I hope on the very first post they will make it clear the scope of the RFC. Just Citoid? Just citations? What calendars are supported? What is the earliest allowable date? What is the greatest allowable date?

Thank you very much for rolling back the change, forgive me for flaring up above. I am working on the standardization of dates in a project, and your change was at a very wrong time.

In T282112#7074338, @Urbanecm wrote:

Should be done now :).

Moreover, the parser function (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#mw.language:formatDate) does not support this format, are you seriously introducing a standart that even MediaWiki cannot handle? I have almost all dates in templates in projects go through this parser function, should I start displaying bare numbers to users or write a new wrapper instead of the parser function myself?

Of course, I understand everything, but why are the problems of only English Wikipedia being solved at the global level, again? Breaking down everything around the world.

Hey! I am very sorry for having connected again with such a delay :(

Allows experienced editors with over 5000 edits to test the dashboard but their info. (edit, reverts, block, etc.) is excluded from their assigned mentor's mentee list/ impact module.

Maybe reduce the number of edits? to 500 or 1000?

Active users of the extension said, yes, we can turn everything off: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Форум/Предложения#Расширение_Википедия:Образовательная_программа_и_пустые_пространства_имен

This is bad, but maybe there is some simple way to do it. See T188812: Uninstall Flow on all wikis where it has zero topics and T148611: Plan to disable Flow on Enwiki.

Stalled on local discussion.

In T229735#7065747, @IKhitron wrote:

In T229735#7065727, Iniquity wrote:

The question is, is it impossible to make the setting and hide these namespaces in all the wiki of the foundation for now? And then turn them back on, if necessary. No one will even notice, but this will at least reduce the load on the search filters.

You do realize, @Iniquity, that the Education Program namespaces removal task T217137 is open for years, and these ones will never be in use?

The question is, is it impossible to make the setting and hide these namespaces in all the wiki of the foundation for now? And then turn them back on, if necessary. No one will even notice, but this will at least reduce the load on the search filters.

Related also: T215262: Namespaces for "Educational program" still exist on various wikis

In T282112#7065575, @Zabe wrote:

@Iniquity was there some kind of community consensus that the extension should be removed?

Lol, it was deleted, why is it still active? I think yes, it should be disabled.

In T281181#7035881, @Amire80 wrote:

This is the toolbar of the localized version of Microsoft Word:

You can clearly see Ж and К. They are uglyish if you ask me, probably not updated since 2000 or so.

Another thought: if such a page is created, then most likely a similar one will be created for the workshops hosts. This page should have different levels of access for sign up, as it will be really easy to chase newcomers through it. But it may be badly needed for universities or compulsory mediation schemes. Perhaps it is worth hanging on it a restriction in rights to administrators, or other flags.

Yes, I confirm, they look strange and elongated.

Not needed. See T232406: Welcome survey: modifications to the "Getting started with editing" box.

+examples T258584: Align VideoJS player to Wikimedia UI design :)

In T279912#6991344, @matmarex wrote:

You can probably achieve that on https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext and https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Blockedtext by adding <nowiki/> on a separate line after the template parameters, to ensure that the line break is not removed.

Does not work :(

Hi, is it ok? :)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewcomerTasksInfo

And what if, through a special page, we simply create a MediaWiki:Example.json file that each community can parse through scribunto? Then the communities themselves will be able to design it as they want.

In T279912#6991344, @matmarex wrote:

You can probably achieve that on https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext and https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Blockedtext by adding <nowiki/> on a separate line after the template parameters, to ensure that the line break is not removed.

Ok, we will do it, thanks :)

In T253309#6988625, @SD0001 wrote:

@Iniquity Is there a list of languages and their fallbacks available somewhere?

In T233250#6986927, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

It should return an empty string :).

@Urbanecm_WMF Hey! Please tell me what the magic word will return if it does not find a mentor? :)

Hey! Sorry for such a late reply, I was busy offline :)