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Today

Izno added a comment to T199534: Confirmation prompt for rollback action (#7 2017).

Can’t you just do a gadget please? I seriously don’t understand why all of this development is even needed.

Wed, Mar 20, 11:14 PM · Confirmation prompt for rollback action, German-Community-Wishlist-Main-Wishes

Yesterday

Izno added a watcher for MediaWiki-Decoupling: Izno.
Tue, Mar 19, 4:37 AM

Mon, Mar 18

Izno merged T217889: Evaluate sourcehut for CI future WG into T217852: Evaluate sourcehut builds.
Mon, Mar 18, 1:25 PM · User-zeljkofilipin, Release-Engineering-Team (Kanban)
Izno merged task T217889: Evaluate sourcehut for CI future WG into T217852: Evaluate sourcehut builds.
Mon, Mar 18, 1:25 PM · Release-Engineering-Team (Kanban)

Sun, Mar 17

Izno added a comment to T2367: Markup accessibility issues (tracking).

We already have a tag for this ( Accessibility ). I would actually recommend this task get closed with new tasks opened for each of the bullets in the original, as appropriate.

Sun, Mar 17, 7:06 AM · Tracking, Accessibility, MediaWiki-Interface
Izno moved T215608: Table border collapse in Timeless from Backlog to Change CSS on the CSS board.
Sun, Mar 17, 6:50 AM · CSS, Timeless
Izno renamed T215608: Table border collapse in Timeless from Table borders to Table border collapse in Timeless.
Sun, Mar 17, 6:49 AM · CSS, Timeless

Sat, Mar 9

Izno added a comment to T50274: VisualEditor: For edit summary field, give users an auto-fill drop-down (or similar) of recent edit summaries they've used.

Change 495451 had a related patch set uploaded (by Esanders; owner: Esanders):
[mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor@master] Edit summary autocomplete

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/495451

Sat, Mar 9, 5:15 PM · Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki

Mon, Mar 4

Izno updated the task description for T217606: Add tables of contents on preference tabs.
Mon, Mar 4, 9:50 PM · Gadgets, MediaWiki-User-preferences
Izno created T217606: Add tables of contents on preference tabs.
Mon, Mar 4, 9:48 PM · Gadgets, MediaWiki-User-preferences
Izno added a comment to T217500: Provide a loadJsonData with same characteristics as loadData.

Okay, I've triaged as lowest. No objection if you want to decline also.

Mon, Mar 4, 4:43 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
Izno triaged T217500: Provide a loadJsonData with same characteristics as loadData as Lowest priority.
Mon, Mar 4, 4:43 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
Izno added a comment to T217500: Provide a loadJsonData with same characteristics as loadData.

Does that load the json each time you invoke the module on a page though?

Mon, Mar 4, 3:58 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto

Sun, Mar 3

Izno created T217500: Provide a loadJsonData with same characteristics as loadData.
Sun, Mar 3, 2:01 AM · MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
Izno added a comment to T203157: Make the spam whitelist its own slot.

If we wanted still to whitelist an entire domain on a particular Wikipedia (as opposed to the blacklist currently at Meta), that should still be at the MediaWiki version of the page.

Sun, Mar 3, 1:43 AM · SpamBlacklist

Fri, Mar 1

Izno added a comment to T203293: {{Row numbers}} completely fails on the Android app / VisualEditor.

As for completely failing, VE (and the apps which I think load VE/WTE17 these days) doesn't try to work with pathological behavior.

Fri, Mar 1, 3:22 AM · MediaWiki-Parser, VisualEditor, Parsoid-Rendering, Parsoid, Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog
Izno added a comment to T203293: {{Row numbers}} completely fails on the Android app / VisualEditor.

I'm sitting here feeling a bit puzzled about why we should support this (particular) use case with this as the (particular) fix. Imo it's a bit pathological to use nowiki to actually get content like this.

Fri, Mar 1, 3:21 AM · MediaWiki-Parser, VisualEditor, Parsoid-Rendering, Parsoid, Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog

Wed, Feb 27

Pcoombe awarded T200517: Emit lint error or category when a page uses duplicate HTML IDs a Like token.
Wed, Feb 27, 10:40 AM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-Linter, MediaWiki-Parser

Feb 17 2019

Izno added a comment to T216350: Presence of <section /> tag confuses Linter analyis when using 'continued' tables.....

The aside is T32597: <section> tag name collides with HTML 5 <section> tag.

Feb 17 2019, 4:55 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-LabeledSectionTransclusion, Wikisource, MediaWiki-extensions-Linter
Izno added a comment to T159837: Introduce confirmation step if user tries to register without email.

This is a cool idea! The Growth team is attempting something similar in T206365, in which we will ask for email again after the user creates their account, if they don't initially include an email. If this feature exists, that would be redundant.

Feb 17 2019, 4:54 AM · User-notice, Patch-For-Review, Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), MediaWiki-User-login-and-signup

Feb 11 2019

Izno added a comment to T131803: Options to only use a specific layout/not go bigger - single-column with only dropdown menus, or one sidebar-only.

Seems like a good one for after T122924: Merge Extension:Theme into core.

Feb 11 2019, 2:43 AM · Timeless

Feb 10 2019

Izno updated subscribers of T215728: Suppress a Wikidata value in a Wikipedia article that uses a 'Wikidata by default' infobox _without overwriting it_ in the article Wikitext.

Module:WikidataIB should already do this I think? @RexxS

Feb 10 2019, 3:23 PM · Wikidata

Feb 9 2019

Izno added a comment to T215695: New message indicator hidden in the personal menu.

I don't think that really fits in with the theme of Timeless though.

Feb 9 2019, 6:50 PM · Timeless
Izno added a comment to T215695: New message indicator hidden in the personal menu.

It is not visible in the default view for anyone any more in any skin unless you have enabled a script or gadget.

Feb 9 2019, 3:49 PM · Timeless

Feb 3 2019

Izno added a comment to T215084: Stop depending on jQuery in OOUI.

Is this T49145: Formally deprecate jQuery UI after we've stopped using jQuery UI in extensions and core (replacing it with OOUI).?

Feb 3 2019, 1:28 PM · Epic, OOUI
Izno added a comment to T101483: VisualEditor gives warning on Firefox for Android.

I realize this is a 4 year task... But Firefox works on my Android device (LG G5) with WTE17. It does still have the "unsupported" note in the edit notification pane.

Feb 3 2019, 1:23 PM · Editing QA, VisualEditor (Current work), MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.17; 2019-02-12), jQuery-Client, Browser-Support-Firefox, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile

Jan 28 2019

Izno renamed T214811: WTE2017 preview doesn't de-duplicate the categories from Preview doesn't de-duplicate the categories in WTE2017 to WTE2017 preview doesn't de-duplicate the categories.
Jan 28 2019, 2:49 AM · Editing QA, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.18; 2019-02-19), VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
Izno created T214811: WTE2017 preview doesn't de-duplicate the categories.
Jan 28 2019, 2:47 AM · Editing QA, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.18; 2019-02-19), VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor

Jan 26 2019

Izno added a project to T200320: [Request] Make Timeless link colours darker: Accessibility.
Jan 26 2019, 12:37 AM · Accessibility, Timeless

Jan 25 2019

Izno added a comment to T213239: User styles for .hlist clash with ones in core and should be scoped.

Yeah, I'm probably just a bit grouchy today.

Jan 25 2019, 1:54 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog, MinervaNeue (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Regression

Jan 24 2019

Izno added a comment to T213239: User styles for .hlist clash with ones in core and should be scoped.
Jan 24 2019, 10:51 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, MinervaNeue (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Regression
RandomDSdevel awarded T200914: Allow creation of TemplateStyles in the Module namespace a Piece of Eight token.
Jan 24 2019, 12:48 AM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.14; 2019-01-22), User-notice, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto, TemplateStyles

Jan 22 2019

Izno added a comment to T144475: Make it possible to create json pages in the module namespace.
Jan 22 2019, 1:29 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
Sakretsu awarded T200914: Allow creation of TemplateStyles in the Module namespace a Like token.
Jan 22 2019, 11:25 AM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.14; 2019-01-22), User-notice, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto, TemplateStyles

Jan 19 2019

Izno added a comment to T144475: Make it possible to create json pages in the module namespace.

@Anomie This strikes me in a similar sense to T200914: Allow creation of TemplateStyles in the Module namespace. What's your objection here that wasn't there? That the page is being moved as opposed to being created in the namespace?

In part, that is an issue of interoperation of two different extensions while this is proposing added behavior to Scribunto. And in particular that one came at it from the perspective of TemplateStyles rather than Scribunto.

Jan 19 2019, 4:11 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
Izno added a comment to T144475: Make it possible to create json pages in the module namespace.

This is closed for a wrong reason, and blocks proper localization by using json files. It also blocks use of json-based configuration files, forcing such files into other non-related namespaces.

Jan 19 2019, 3:31 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
Izno added a comment to T47161: Remove all non-trivial parsers in jquery.tablesorter.

Anomie's objections above seem to be rather... uh... interesting.

Jan 19 2019, 3:12 AM · good first bug, MW-1.33-release, Performance-Team (Radar), Technical-Debt (Deprecation), MediaWiki-jQuery-Tablesorter, JavaScript
Izno added a comment to T47161: Remove all non-trivial parsers in jquery.tablesorter.

This is a "it just works" feature to most people.

Jan 19 2019, 3:04 AM · good first bug, MW-1.33-release, Performance-Team (Radar), Technical-Debt (Deprecation), MediaWiki-jQuery-Tablesorter, JavaScript
Izno edited parent tasks for T104770: HTML5 Semantic element <aside></aside> not seemingly parsed., added: T25932: Enable, whitelist, and incorporate semantic HTML5 elements; removed: T21719: HTML5 features (tracking).
Jan 19 2019, 2:03 AM · MediaWiki-Parser
Izno added a subtask for T25932: Enable, whitelist, and incorporate semantic HTML5 elements: T104770: HTML5 Semantic element <aside></aside> not seemingly parsed..
Jan 19 2019, 2:03 AM · Epic, Accessibility, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno removed a subtask for T21719: HTML5 features (tracking): T104770: HTML5 Semantic element <aside></aside> not seemingly parsed..
Jan 19 2019, 2:03 AM · Tracking, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno removed a subtask for T21719: HTML5 features (tracking): T69042: Allow HTML5 <rtc> tag (ruby support for East Asian typography).
Jan 19 2019, 2:02 AM · Tracking, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno edited parent tasks for T69042: Allow HTML5 <rtc> tag (ruby support for East Asian typography), added: T25932: Enable, whitelist, and incorporate semantic HTML5 elements; removed: T21719: HTML5 features (tracking).
Jan 19 2019, 2:02 AM · I18n, MediaWiki-Parser, MW-1.24-release
Izno added a subtask for T25932: Enable, whitelist, and incorporate semantic HTML5 elements: T69042: Allow HTML5 <rtc> tag (ruby support for East Asian typography).
Jan 19 2019, 2:02 AM · Epic, Accessibility, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno added a comment to T212725: Template arguments are not parsed between <ref></ref>.

I'd guess this is T4700.

Jan 19 2019, 1:32 AM · Cite
Izno moved T212419: Page preview shows own page when hovering reference backlinks from Unsorted backlog to External on the Cite board.
Jan 19 2019, 1:29 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), Patch-For-Review, WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-01-10, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.14; 2019-01-22), Need-volunteer, TCB-Team, Page-Previews
Izno moved T209493: VE is "substing" citation templates (when copying a reference defined within template-generated reflist) from Unsorted backlog to External on the Cite board.
Jan 19 2019, 1:29 AM · Cite, Parsoid, VisualEditor

Jan 18 2019

Izno updated the task description for T214208: mw-datatable/TablePager tables need to be visually updated and aligned to wikitable.
Jan 18 2019, 11:59 PM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.16; 2019-02-05), Patch-For-Review, UI-Standardization, UI-Standardization-Kanban, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown

Jan 16 2019

RandomDSdevel awarded T200441: Side-by-side comparisons of live and sandbox versions of a template fail because both live and sandbox stylesheets use the same selectors a Mountain of Wealth token.
Jan 16 2019, 6:07 PM · User-notice, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.12; 2019-01-08), Patch-For-Review, TemplateStyles

Jan 8 2019

Izno moved T185840: AWB shouldn't strip <em> from User input needed to Other stuff on the AutoWikiBrowser board.
Jan 8 2019, 1:01 PM · AutoWikiBrowser

Jan 3 2019

Izno merged task T212829: "Search" button is partially hidden on the Special:Search page into T185283: Timeless and OOUI on Special:Search aren't friendly.
Jan 3 2019, 5:06 PM · Timeless
Izno merged T212829: "Search" button is partially hidden on the Special:Search page into T185283: Timeless and OOUI on Special:Search aren't friendly.
Jan 3 2019, 5:06 PM · Timeless

Dec 25 2018

Izno added a comment to T210797: Citoid remarks from small language wikis.

year and date are synonyms on en.wp.

Dec 25 2018, 3:12 PM · Citoid
Izno added a comment to T212604: Citoid should not add the language parameter to the cite template when the language matches the content language.

The en.wp template is intelligent enough not to display it. The problem is that the hu.wp template is not up to date. See also discussion at T156548: Disallow adding Czech language tag (cs-CZ) into citation templates on cswiki and T115326: Many language wiki templates (pl, it, en, cs) don't accept xx-XX style language codes.

Dec 25 2018, 3:09 PM · Citoid

Dec 22 2018

Izno renamed T212565: RouterListener.php: 139 - No route found from PLEASE REPLACE WITH A DESCRIPTION OF THE ERROR to RouterListener.php: 139 - No route found.
Dec 22 2018, 3:59 PM · XTools

Dec 16 2018

Izno updated the task description for T54180: Be able to set table cell background (and other formatting options).
Dec 16 2018, 3:53 PM · Design, VisualEditor-Tables, VisualEditor
Izno merged task T210539: As a new MediaWiki user who often edits via the GUI editor, I really wish I could change text color quickly into T54645: VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text color.
Dec 16 2018, 3:48 PM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
Izno merged T210539: As a new MediaWiki user who often edits via the GUI editor, I really wish I could change text color quickly into T54645: VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text color.
Dec 16 2018, 3:48 PM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools
Izno updated subscribers of T115326: Many language wiki templates (pl, it, en, cs) don't accept xx-XX style language codes.

The English Wikipedia CS1/2 modules currently support by default what MediaWiki supports (mw.language.fetchLanguageNames). The module will trim to the first 2/3 letter code in language_parameter in the module proper. You can see this by experimenting with an English Wikipedia page that it does accept e.g. nl-NL with an output of "(in Dutch)". There are some overrides listed in lang_name_remap in the configuration file, but that's not directly relevant here.

Dec 16 2018, 3:43 PM · VisualEditor, Citoid

Dec 11 2018

Izno added a comment to T210871: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?.

Well- we ARE a robot. So probably technically the things that can be done would involve pretending we are not a robot...

Dec 11 2018, 10:02 PM · Citoid
Izno added a comment to T182041: Display math generates div inside of paragraph (HTML5 violation).

Div meets the intent of block math better. It might even be reasonable to mark it up as a paragraph in HTML 5.

While display equations may be block content that is not always the case.

That's true. But if you mark up your <math> wikitext with <math display=block>, you as the author of a wikitext document are *way* obviously meaning for the math to display as a block. Are you familiar with that functionality? That's what this task is about. Arguing without that context or seemingly without that context seems to miss the point of the task.

Dec 11 2018, 1:52 PM · good first bug, Math
Izno added a comment to T182041: Display math generates div inside of paragraph (HTML5 violation).

Div meets the intent of block math better. It might even be reasonable to mark it up as a paragraph in HTML 5.

Dec 11 2018, 12:08 PM · good first bug, Math
Izno added a comment to T182041: Display math generates div inside of paragraph (HTML5 violation).
Dec 11 2018, 12:07 PM · good first bug, Math

Dec 8 2018

Izno added a comment to T211479: switching browser tab should not stop loading editor.

It started happening with me right around Firefox 60 also, though I'm on 63.0.3 now and still affected. No issue before then. I mostly experience it with WTE17. It seems to impact the Linter extension also by not loading the linted wikitext, which does not load WTE17 but instead WikiEditor 2010.

Dec 8 2018, 7:50 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor
Izno moved T203160: CX2: Highlight (and skip) references with a template that could not be adapted from Unsorted backlog to Enhancement backlog on the Cite board.
Dec 8 2018, 12:31 AM · Language-Team (Language-2019-January-March), MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.9; 2018-12-18), Cite, Patch-For-Review, ContentTranslation
Izno moved T208914: Change recovery fails when the change inserted a reference from Unsorted backlog to External on the Cite board.
Dec 8 2018, 12:31 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, Cite, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor (Current work)
Izno moved T210281: Find a better way to highligth letters then bold from Unsorted backlog to External on the Cite board.
Dec 8 2018, 12:31 AM · WMDE-Design, Cite, TCB-Team, Design
Izno moved T210508: Highlighting does not work if span with mw-cite-backlink class is removed from Unsorted backlog to External on the Cite board.
Dec 8 2018, 12:31 AM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.8; 2018-12-11), WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2018-11-20, Patch-For-Review, Cite, TCB-Team
Izno moved T210686: [Regression pre-wmf.8] Typing in any fields for Cite>Web/Book etc. disables the "Insert" field from Unsorted backlog to External on the Cite board.
Dec 8 2018, 12:30 AM · User-Ryasmeen, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, Cite, VisualEditor (Current work), Verified, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.8; 2018-12-11)
Izno moved T210796: The citation (with template) dialog's Apply changes action is always enabled from Unsorted backlog to External on the Cite board.
Dec 8 2018, 12:30 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.12; 2019-01-08), VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-EditingTools, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, Cite
Izno added a comment to T92432: Come up with a better way to auto-label references.

This has been proposed as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Citations/VisualEditor:_Allow_references_to_be_named It's too early to know whether it will make the top 10 (voting will be open until the 30 November 2018), but it's currently among the more popular items, which suggests that solving this problem has widespread community support.

Dec 8 2018, 12:03 AM · Cite, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor

Dec 7 2018

Izno added a comment to T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists.

On an aside, I don't find the original report compelling for allowing this behavior. That's its own issue (T3584: Need method for multiparagraph list items, continuing numbered lists, and assigning specific numbers to list items especially the first item in the title) and should probably have its own fix. (Which, I may have falsely closed one or another in that duplicate chain....)

Dec 7 2018, 4:48 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno edited subtasks for T120256: Add tracking category to pages that generate empty <li> elements, added: T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists; removed: T202083: First-class wikitext support for ordered list item value.
Dec 7 2018, 4:41 AM · MediaWiki-extensions-Linter, MediaWiki-Parser, Parsing-Team
Izno added a parent task for T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists: T120256: Add tracking category to pages that generate empty <li> elements.
Dec 7 2018, 4:41 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno removed a parent task for T202083: First-class wikitext support for ordered list item value: T120256: Add tracking category to pages that generate empty <li> elements.
Dec 7 2018, 4:41 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno removed a parent task for T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists: T3584: Need method for multiparagraph list items, continuing numbered lists, and assigning specific numbers to list items.
Dec 7 2018, 4:38 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno removed a subtask for T3584: Need method for multiparagraph list items, continuing numbered lists, and assigning specific numbers to list items: T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists.
Dec 7 2018, 4:38 AM · MediaWiki-Parser
Izno moved T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists from Backlog to Future Ideas & Feature Requests on the Parsoid board.
Dec 7 2018, 4:37 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno moved T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists from Backlog to Feature requests on the MediaWiki-Parser board.
Dec 7 2018, 4:36 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno updated the task description for T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists.
Dec 7 2018, 4:36 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno updated subscribers of T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists.
Dec 7 2018, 4:35 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno added a project to T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists: Parsoid.
Dec 7 2018, 4:35 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno merged task T202083: First-class wikitext support for ordered list item value into T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists.
Dec 7 2018, 4:35 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno merged T202083: First-class wikitext support for ordered list item value into T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists.
Dec 7 2018, 4:35 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser
Izno added a comment to T6281: Allow users to set a starting digit in ordered lists.

I'm going to copy the description from my T202083: First-class wikitext support for ordered list item value:

Dec 7 2018, 4:34 AM · Parsoid, MediaWiki-Parser

Dec 6 2018

Izno added a comment to T211259: Whitelist <meter> element in wikitext.

W3schools points out that progress bars should use <progress>, not <meter>. A better use of <meter> would be for Template:Rating.

Dec 6 2018, 4:17 AM · Accessibility, MediaWiki-Parser

Dec 5 2018

Izno updated subscribers of T211252: Add support for moving specific kinds of content into sidebars/whitespace outside of content block.

I know @TheDJ has poked around here. I'm pretty sure I've seen a task for this elsewhere (not just for Timeless).

Dec 5 2018, 10:53 PM · Epic, Timeless
Izno added a comment to T210822: Reconsider section heading marker ("→") in edit summaries.
  • The current purpose is to indicate that here is a link which is not coloured in blue as every other link does.
  • There are people editing since 2005 with 100.000 edits who never noticed that some five or eight years ago a link feature has been introduced. They learnt it two weeks ago when it all became blue and a debate started whether it shall remain blue or grey again as within the years ago.
  • The arrow has been blue the last years, but nobody discovered the colour of that little arrow.
  • If you are new in Wiki world you have no idea that somebody is hiding a clickable link, something greyed out just before the user summary. That is signalling inactivity, used for deactivated things.
  • The arrow is the only thing which might give you a clue to hover at this part of the interface.
Dec 5 2018, 3:16 AM · MediaWiki-Page-editing

Dec 4 2018

Izno added a comment to T211044: using ";" at the start does not change the text to bold in Timeless.

Okay! So we really just want the behaviour consistent with other skins - not necessarily bold, that doesn't matter one way or the other, but sizing/spacing.

; is for definition lists, it's supposed to act as the header for : items. We need consistent headeriness. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext_examples?useskin=timeless#Organizing_your_writing should match https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext_examples?useskin=vector#Organizing_your_writing in terms of effect.

May also be worth looking into header styles in wikitables and fieldsets and such, too, as all of these should ideally behave the same.

Dec 4 2018, 11:08 PM · Patch-For-Review, Timeless
Izno added a comment to T210822: Reconsider section heading marker ("→") in edit summaries.
  1. What is the purpose of the arrow? Is it discoverability alone?
    1. Is that necessary? I don't think so. I don't think the arrow here does any good to serve discoverability, and conflates the discussion ongoing in T125657 anyway.
  2. Is it only to demarcate "in <section of interest>: <summary>"?
    1. Is that necessary? I doubt so--clearly there are people who missed the usefulness of the arrow, which inspired the change that set off all this discussion.
  3. Is it both?
Dec 4 2018, 3:34 PM · MediaWiki-Page-editing
Izno added a comment to T210822: Reconsider section heading marker ("→") in edit summaries.

It could also help to restructure the order of items. Currently we have (watchlist):

 diff    _ hist .. tag    _ page _ time   .. size   .. author _ talk   _ contribs _ ->section _ summary
(change _ page .. change _ page _ change .. change .. change _ author _ author   _ page      _ change )

I would restructure it like this:

 page _ section _ hist .. tag    _ summary _ size   _ time   _ diff    .. author _ talk   _ contribs
(page _ page    _ page .. change _ change  _ change _ change _ change .. change _ author _ author  )

If the diff link is not the first item in the list, or in different places depending on whether a section was edited or not, that would be the end of counter-vandalism.

I agree with Nirmos. This would indeed have a significant impact on those who have to regularly scan through those history pages to reconstruct an editor's actions.

The diff, date, time, etc. are the same length and line up consistently in the article history and contributions, and should stay at the beginning of the line. If they were re-ordered with variable-length data like page and section name first, the layout would become significantly more chaotic, and less easily parsed by the reader. The variable-length data should always appear at the end of the line to maximize legibility.

Dec 4 2018, 3:56 AM · MediaWiki-Page-editing

Dec 3 2018

Izno added a comment to T165189: "→" link to page section on History page can be hard to click, should be larger somehow.

Change 477428 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@wmf/1.33.0-wmf.6] Restore gray coloring for autocomments

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/477428

Dec 3 2018, 11:43 PM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.6; 2018-11-27), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Comment-backend, Google-Code-in-2018, MediaWiki-History-and-Diffs
Izno reopened T125657: Gray used in .autocomment in RC and watchlist is not accessible against background and hinders link discovery as "Open".

Since the other task is making everything the same gray again, reopen this one.

Dec 3 2018, 11:41 PM · Growth-Team, UI-Standardization-Kanban, UI-Standardization, MediaWiki-History-and-Diffs, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, MediaWiki-Watchlist, Accessibility
Izno reopened T125657: Gray used in .autocomment in RC and watchlist is not accessible against background and hinders link discovery, a subtask of T109915: Improve color palette to comply with WCAG 2.0 min level AA and color-deficiency-friendly. , as Open.
Dec 3 2018, 11:41 PM · MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-09-20_(1.28.0-wmf.20)), User-notice, OOUI (OOjs-UI-0.17.9), UI-Standardization-Kanban, Accessibility, UI-Standardization
Izno added a comment to T211044: using ";" at the start does not change the text to bold in Timeless.

I actually really like the serif font in these rather than the bold, though it does take some getting used to.

Dec 3 2018, 8:16 PM · Patch-For-Review, Timeless

Dec 1 2018

Izno added a project to T148701: Automatic references list after page-terminal ordered or bullet list generates unbalanced HTML: good first bug.
Dec 1 2018, 5:40 PM · good first bug, Cite
Izno added a comment to T148701: Automatic references list after page-terminal ordered or bullet list generates unbalanced HTML.

Is this still a problem with RemexHtml ?

Dec 1 2018, 5:39 PM · good first bug, Cite

Nov 30 2018

Framawiki awarded T210871: Bloomberg - Are you a robot? a Love token.
Nov 30 2018, 9:51 PM · Citoid
Izno created T210871: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?.
Nov 30 2018, 7:15 PM · Citoid
Izno merged task T210831: References are malformed into T148701: Automatic references list after page-terminal ordered or bullet list generates unbalanced HTML.
Nov 30 2018, 2:52 PM · Cite