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Sep 13 2025
For the record, on the larger issue, I think that the visual editor being unable to edit LDR articles is a very significant shortcoming. LDR is dramatically to work with when editing, especially for references that have a lot of parameters. Sure, old-fashioned references might just have a title/author/publisher/year, but nowadays a fully loaded citation template will have all that plus a URL, archive URL, archive status, paywall status, ISBN/DOI/other identifiers, via, and so on. A citation template for an academic paper can easily take up half a screen of text when source-editing, making it borderline impossible to keep track of what's going on when you edit, even for highly experienced users (even if syntax highlighting is enabled, which itself slows things down a lot). List-defined references eliminate this problem completely, and allow the source to just have a ref name tag, and the only reason we can't just use them for everything is because VE is busted and can't use them properly.
But this is only for instances of {{reflist}} where there are no additional parameters beyond the refs= list of references, correct? That is, {{reflist}} would continue to exist when being called with any other parameters.
Aug 6 2025
Is this bug seriously twenty years old? Is there some reason we can't fix it?
