@Chaddy To give a bit of background, as someone who works on trying to keep the communities informed, we get about equal amounts of "stop spamming us all the time" and "you never tell us anything". There are so many things happening in the Wikimedia universe (not just coming from the Wikimedia Foundation, but from other local or global initiatives) that it's incredibly time-consuming to keep track. So to solve this, we have, so to speak, tried to create specialised information workflows where we don't overwhelm the people who just want to edit an encyclopedia, but can inform everyone who wants to be kept up to date. This is, in comparison, a fairly minor change -- I do realise that's not true for everyone, that there are people who have depended on this, but it is not key to how the wikis function. I do wish Tech News was better integrated into the workflow of German Wikipedia, like how the English Wikipedia technical Village Pump has subscribed to it to give an example, but it's linked from Wikipedia:Kurier and people are aware of it (and use the content for technical updates on Wikipedia:Projektneuheiten) and if that's the level of updates that are desired, we can't force it on people. If there's a noticeboard or community page on German Wikipedia you feel should have the weekly technical updates, I'd be very happy if you added it there. We really don't want to take people by surprise, but we also don't want to make local pages unusuable for communication in the local wiki community because they're just global announcements, nor do we want to annoy people who are editing in their spare time and want to prioritse other things than weekly technical updates. When something really big happens, we take extra measures to keep people informed, but there's always a cost in demanding editor time, in intruding on the local spaces (especially on smaller wikis) and so on.

Deliverables probably need to be made more clear.

@Samwalton9 50000 edits on a specific wiki, any wiki, or global edits in total?

From a community perspective, I like the solution of offering the deletion option immediately after posting, by the way. Removing talk page posts (that aren't harassment, spam etc) is generally frowned upon, and the common way to do so is to use strikethrough – unless it's immediately after posting it, when there's sort of a grace period before it is considered confusing to remove what others might have acted on.

The current text on the snackbar is "Response submitted", any suggestion of a better wording?

Roughly five days for the last 500 anonymous edits in general. If we're averaging less than one revert talk page post per day, we're probably not too unhappy. Want me to start a local conversation and see what the general opinion is, in addition to whatever data we have and can look at?

I don't think we've noticed any issues. No explosion of confused mobile talk-page users.

Added to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/30 – feel free to sanity check.

Going down the rabbit hole, currently following up on five different tracks. Waiting for replies to three emails, and to double-check one thing with Jazmin next week before I get in touch with some others.

(We'll freeze the newsletter now, but if it's wrong it should still be corrected.)

Added to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/29, feel free to make sure it makes sense.

Now added to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/29 going out on Monday.

(If this isn't doable, then the same thing goes for the week after this for the issue after the next one.)

Preferably done on Thursday, hard deadline early on Friday, distributed on Monday.

@Reedy Happy to. I saw you put it in "not ready to announce". Just move it to the "announce in next Tech News" column when you've come far enough.

@Ladsgroup Added to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/27 – tried to contextualise and explain why, let me know if I made any mistakes.

It's been delivered. With rare exceptions, it's delivered every Monday.

So something like this for Tech News?

Done by Ryan (my part was only to manage the Ambassador part, and contexualise it within our general engagement strategy):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites_(WMF)/Suggested_Edits

Done by Ryan (my part of this has just been to manage the Ambassador part of it, and talk a bit about our general engagement strategy around this):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites_(WMF)/Suggested_Edits

@Billinghurst Yeah, that was a mental slip from my side. My apologies.

Is this something we should report in Tech News, in that it will have some small effect on search results? Or is the user-facing effect too minimal and the benefits will mainly be seen on the backend side?

I could also see people forgetting they turned it on, so maybe it should be for a limited time? I don't know, but I don't think people turning off newer accounts being able to ping them ever again is a terrific idea, especially not when they forget they can't be pinged by newcomers.

Added to Tech News. Please make sure it's correct:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/20

Added to Tech News. Please make sure it's correct:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/20

Johan

I removed the user-notice tag since this is three specific wikis and we don't need to include it in a movement-wide newsletter; we should give the three specific wikis an early heads-up instead.

Did this persist? MassMessaging is a fickle thing due to job queue issues. I quite often has temporary problems to work around, but it worked fine for me on Monday, April 26, as far as I can tell.

(This was excluded from last Tech News, since it didn't seem to be ready to be announced. Please let me know when it is.)