Done

I realize this is simikar to T390266: Find a way to support newlines in details attribute with VE

In T411472#11427126, @Lina_Farid_WMDE wrote:

@Johannes_Richter_WMDE can you please link a few articles where you are able to reproduce the issue. Thanks!

In T411466#11422873, @thiemowmde wrote:

I'm not sure I understand the issue. When I'm specifically editing the sub-ref, why shouldn't the replace button replace the sub-ref? As far as I'm concerned it works entirely as expected at the moment.

Looking at https://id.wikiquote.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Cite-tool-definition.json and https://id.wikiquote.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json this has been resolved. Tested it and the automatic reference feature works as intended.

In T52896#11361792, @Sarefo wrote:

cool, thanks! I'll do that then for the next ten years ;) solves my problem of having to worry about the VE users. I'll just do it for pages I personally touch for now, but it would be great if someone better at this would establish more of a standard on enwiki, eg. using this as a replacement for {{reflist}}.

In T394413#11193613, @Johannes_Richter_WMDE wrote:

@Novem_Linguae I believe this feature leads to unexpected redirect notifications due to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassMessage#Configuration_parameters -> $wgNamespacesToConvert = [ NS_USER => NS_USER_TALK ];
Many mass message lists just include the user name instead of directly linking to the user talk page. I just send a test message to myself -> https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johannes_Richter_(WMDE) which automatically got the following text attached: (This message was sent to User:Johannes Richter (WMDE) and is being posted here due to a redirect.)

@Novem_Linguae I believe this feature leads to unexpected redirect notifications due to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassMessage#Configuration_parameters -> $wgNamespacesToConvert = [ NS_USER => NS_USER_TALK ];
Many mass message lists just include the user name instead of directly linking to the user talk page. I just send a test message to myself -> https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johannes_Richter_(WMDE) which automatically got the following text attached: (This message was sent to User:Johannes Richter (WMDE) and is being posted here due to a redirect.)

As mentioned in our team meeting: We should change the onboarding tooltip link to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Sub-referencing (instead of linking to the VE section of the page) because people reading the tooltip likely want to learn more about the feature in general (as opposed to the link in T403694 where people likely want to learn more about VE usage).

Moving back given that the issue occurs again with the revert in T356471#11175267 / T404421

I removed the Tech News entry because the change got reverted https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech%2FNews%2F2025%2F38&diff=29259620&oldid=29254527

In T356471#11160318, @gerritbot wrote:

Change #1185227 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/Cite@master] Remove refs from reference lists if there are no references left to them

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1185227

Thanks, everything works as expected.

In T404080#11164378, @KFrancis wrote:

Hi @Johannes_Richter_WMDE I have sent the NDA for you to sign via DocuSign. Thanks!

Seems to be solved by T356471#11160318, I can no longer reproduce the bug on beta.

We'll work on the order of name= and details= in T389363: Fix attribute order round-tripping for sub-references (dirty diff) and use this task for the bug of VE changing <references /> to <references></references> if the wikitext contains sub-references.

Decided to close this task for now as it's not a bug but rather a feature request. We'll look at this at a later point again.

@Badak_Jawa you need to follow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid/Enabling_Citoid_on_your_wiki which requires setting up the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Citation_tool.
It seems your project already has https://id.wikiquote.org/wiki/Templat:Cite_book and https://id.wikiquote.org/wiki/Templat:Cite_web, I recommend updating them with the latest version from English Wikipedia + the relevant documentation including template data. If you don't know how to do that, you could just export everything you need from English Wikipedia und import the content to Indonesian Wikiquote.
Once you've set up both templates correctly, you need to create MediaWiki:Cite-tool-definition.json and MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json (e.g. like this: https://mos.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Cite-tool-definition.json / https://mos.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json). Creating those pages will enable the automatic reference feature.

I know this a bug, but as a user sending a mass message, it's also a feature: My mass messages usually direct users to leave replies / feedback on a linked project/talk page, but some users nevertheless just reply below the mass message. If I want to monitor all of my mass messages to make sure I don't miss any of those direct replies, I just need to subscribe to one of the messages in order to be subscribed to all of them.

This has been mentioned on meta as well. Example:

Appears similar to T239337 and T212609

Thank you! :)