Mon, Jan 10
Request has been received from applicant that they be given a definitive answer to this request by Mid-February, in order that they may make alternative arrangements if it is rejected.
Dec 18 2021
For those commenting with concerns about 'slippery slope' and 'mission alignment' - I should clarify some context here:
- The Maps API used to be available for anyone to use for any purpose, but was restricted when it was found that commercial users had been overwhelming it, to the detriment of its usability by all. A 'tragedy of the commons' situation.
- This is a specific BBC project, not the whole BBC, of a temporary website featuring geolocated archival footage, for a forthcoming anniversary of the broadcaster. Moreover the need is quite specific: Welsh language map tiles. [FYI @Jason.nlw ].
- The developers of the site approached the relevant Wikimedia Affiliate (WM-UK) to ask advice/help (having read the 'external usage policy). They couldn't, but forwarded the request to me - in Wikimedia Enterprise - the project specifically for third party [especially high-volume & commercial] re-users.
- Enterprise, however, does not have an equivalent to the Maps API. And so I forwarded the request to the people running the current API with a request for this temporary and scope-limited exception.
Oct 19 2021
Thank you very much everyone!
Sep 17 2021
@Lionel_Scheepmans I am not sure what the relevance of the Meta RfC that you opened - and was recently closed by community-consensus - relating to the existence of the Wikimedia Enterprise project has to this discussion.
Sometimes I wonder if the foundation is aware of the dangerous game it plays with big tech companies...
This argument appears to be a fallacy - connecting this specific technical topic to a separate topic which has independent [valid] considerations. It is a truism that the companies you're referring to are already using Wikimedia projects' content for commercial profit, and that they have that right as per our free-licenses. Furthermore, they will continue to do so, independently of whether an API built for the speed/volume needs of commercial organisations is created. The argument that Wikimedia should not work with 'big tech companies' is moot - since they are already using our content and we (as is evidenced by this Phab. ticket) are already wanting to use theirs. The outcome that their paying for the [optional] Enterprise API would create is that Wikimedia would no longer be financially subsiding "big tech's" business model - instead, they would be financially supporting our movement.
But - these are quasi-philosophical issues independent from the specific technical concern of this Ticket. As you have previously raised your concerns about Enterprise in the projects's Meta talkpage (and the aforementioned RFC), I invite you to add any new comments on those threads.
Aug 26 2021
Just in terms of timeline... We need to be able to announce this at the same time as the access via Cloud Services (already live), and other documentation/board resolution which will be BEFORE the commercial website launch (tentatively for 15 October). Therefore, If we can get unblocked by the end of September that would be very useful.
Jul 2 2021
Jun 15 2021
@RBrounley_WMF / @Protsack.stephan - FYI. See related conversation on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Enterprise#Reviewing_pending_changes
May 14 2021
Based on a brainstorming of the 'worst case' risks, it seems that the existing technical limitations of CS are sufficient to mitigate against commercial activities which would compete with Enterprise's business model - based on speed and stability.
However, we have identified a separate risk of [subsequently] deleted revisions being visible in the hourly diff files - a PII/libel etc. I will followup with Stewards and WMF T&S to investigate further. @RBrounley_WMF will be creating a separate ticket for that topic, linking it to here, as it is not explicitly a concern of the business model.
May 12 2021
Talking with legal, there are - in effect - four options here:
May 6 2021
Regarding the issue of Enterprise appearing in CS (and also the Dumps) and how that might require special adjustments to the ToU, we'll be meeting with Legal to discuss it next week. FYI
May 5 2021
Can I get clarification about what is meant, practically, by "splitting scholarly articles out"?
Does this mean something in the backend that is about how that content is stored/accessed by the query system (but is otherwise invisible to the general reader of Wikidata). Or, does it mean removing these items from WD completely?
Apr 29 2021
Apr 28 2021
Mar 15 2021
Thanks for your efficient work @BBlack!