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Nsaa added a comment to T147164: Site identifier and domain prefix for nowiki should be changed.

There are no Community consensus regarding this issue. The discussion Ny avstemming om nb.wikipedia.org https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Tinget&oldid=17916119#Ny_avstemning_om_nb.wikipedia.org was about a lot of different issues. With no clear consensus even about what we where discussing. ~~~~

Fri, Jul 20, 4:04 PM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup, Community-consensus-needed

Sep 18 2017

Nsaa added a comment to T172035: Blockers for Wikimedia wiki domain renaming.

@Liuxinyu970226 I'm only opposing renaming of the no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipedia.org. What other project decides to do I have no strong opinion on.

Sep 18 2017, 6:09 PM · Wikimedia-Site-requests

Sep 17 2017

Nsaa added a comment to T173602: Revert "norsk bokmål" -> "norsk" change.

Shame to ISO/IEC? We do not write YYYY-MM-DD even if this is a ISO 8601 standard. Because ISO is just a standard. It's not the law. It's a wish from the Community at no.wikipedia.org that the sidebars at other Wikis points to Norsk bokmål (or Norsk bokmål og riksmål), not only Norsk, as it has since around 2004. This is the reality, not a technical issue. Somebody did a change without involving the no.wikipedia.org-community and the reality is that this should be set back.

Sep 17 2017, 7:19 PM · Wikimedia-Site-requests
Nsaa added a comment to T173602: Revert "norsk bokmål" -> "norsk" change.

No this is not a technical issue, it's highly political. I've fully supporting this ticket, so everything could be as it was. Don't do technical changes without informing or involving the communities that has been hit by it.

Sep 17 2017, 2:07 PM · Wikimedia-Site-requests

Sep 16 2017

Nsaa added a comment to T173602: Revert "norsk bokmål" -> "norsk" change.

@jeblad Mostly every article on no.wikipedia.org can be regarded as riksmål as normed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Academy_for_Language_and_Literature so your claims are not correct at all. Riksmål is more stringent than Bokmål, and the last one allows nearly everything. Even writing nearly Nynorsk due to the history of "samnorsk" (the previously official language policy aiming to merge Bokmål with Nynorsk).

Sep 16 2017, 9:35 PM · Wikimedia-Site-requests

Aug 25 2017

Nsaa added a comment to T173602: Revert "norsk bokmål" -> "norsk" change.

@Hogne the no.wikipedia.org is not covered by bokmål. We cover two forms. Bokmål that is defined by "Språkrådet" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Council_of_Norway) and riksmål defined by Det Norske Akademi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Academy_for_Language_and_Literature) This is two different and independent entities that we don't know what will do in the future. Today there is a HUGE difference between these two forms of language in what's allowed to write. In the bokmål norm you can nearly write nynorsk.

Aug 25 2017, 9:32 AM · Wikimedia-Site-requests

Aug 21 2017

Nsaa added a comment to T173602: Revert "norsk bokmål" -> "norsk" change.

The no.wikipedia.org Community have earlier strongly opposed a move of the project to nb.wikipedia.org (see a list of reason why not at https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruker:Nsaa/Prefiks#Nei_til_flytting_fra_nowiki_til_nbwiki ). As other points out we have used the Norwegian bokmål description as a shorthand for Norwegian bokmål/riksmål (it's a long and enduring language struggle between different parties. Our wikis language is defined by two parties Språkrådet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Council_of_Norway) that manage Bokmål/Nynorsk and Det Norske Akademi for Språk og Litteratur (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Academy_for_Language_and_Literature) that manage Riksmål). Making changes cause a lot of noise, so this should not be done). I support this reversal since it's making so much noise. no.wikipedia.org covers the norwegian language, but after nynorsk left us (back in 2004), do not make us only bokmål. We're still covering Norwegian language on our wiki (but since nn left us, we have in cooperation with them not allowed nynorsk at no so we will not compete on the same scarce recourses - nynorsk is only written daily/good by a small percentage of the norwegian population).

Aug 21 2017, 9:43 AM · Wikimedia-Site-requests

Oct 5 2016

Nsaa added a comment to T147164: Site identifier and domain prefix for nowiki should be changed.

nowiki at https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tinget manage no.wikipedia.org and that is NOT wrong. A more detailed response to this here https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Requests_for_comment/Rename_no.wikipedia_to_nb.wikipedia&diff=prev&oldid=15960603

Oct 5 2016, 7:32 PM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup, Community-consensus-needed
Nsaa added a comment to T147164: Site identifier and domain prefix for nowiki should be changed.

This is one of the most discussed topics on no.wikipedia.org and the community has rejected this proposal formally with a overwelmingly vote to stay at no (no consensus, achieved) back in 2009 https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avstemninger/Prefiks, it surfaced again in 2011 https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tinget/Arkiv/2011-35#no._vs._nb. In the current notification of this issue at no.wikipedia.org's deciding organ https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tinget#Flytting_av_nowiki.3F there is a strong opposition to go on with this old and resolved discussion to avoid more noise. Please close this request since there are no fundamentally new issues as per https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruker:Nsaa/Prefiks#Nei_til_flytting_fra_nowiki_til_nbwiki (the Meta request to move do not handle nearly any of these issues to keep it at no raised back in 2009). ~~~~

Oct 5 2016, 4:01 PM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup, Community-consensus-needed