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Jan 18 2016

Ozob added a comment to T123394: Improve calculus in the math dialog.

No, someone wanting those can build them out of the appropriate symbols. I mean \operatorname{div}, \operatorname{grad}, \operatorname{curl}.

Jan 18 2016, 1:19 AM · Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor, Math

Dec 15 2015

Ozob added a comment to T111712: Provide an "indented display" styling for formulæ in lieu of the ":<math>" hack.

For examples of what David Eppstein is talking about, see for instance:

Dec 15 2015, 8:25 PM · Patch-For-Review, Design, Math

Dec 6 2015

Ozob added a comment to T111712: Provide an "indented display" styling for formulæ in lieu of the ":<math>" hack.

It is a bit longer, but :<math> is semantically just plain wrong. We need to keep the wikitext sensible, but abusing other features (definition lists) to achieve the desired styling is untenable.

Dec 6 2015, 3:47 PM · Patch-For-Review, Design, Math

Sep 10 2015

Ozob added a comment to T111712: Provide an "indented display" styling for formulæ in lieu of the ":<math>" hack.

Having a separate alignment attribute sounds overly complicated to me. Ordinary mathematics publishing has just two types of equations, inline and displayed. All inline equations are formatted the same way and all displayed equations are formatted the same way, and that consistency makes everything more legible.

Sep 10 2015, 7:41 PM · Patch-For-Review, Design, Math

Sep 9 2015

Ozob added a comment to T111712: Provide an "indented display" styling for formulæ in lieu of the ":<math>" hack.

This problem is more about the interface between VE and the Math extension rather than a problem with either one of them. English Wikipedia has been using :<math> as the standard displayed equation format since I began editing as an IP over a decade ago. As Salix Alba noted, similar formatting is standard on all the other large Wikipedias. Because this formatting is everywhere, we're either in the uncomfortable situation of changing hundreds of thousands if not millions of articles, or we're in the unpleasant situation of VE users being unable to edit articles with displayed formulas (including not just mathematics, but also physics, chemistry, theoretical computer science, all branches of engineering, some biology articles,...).

Sep 9 2015, 2:55 AM · Patch-For-Review, Design, Math

Jul 25 2015

Ozob added a comment to T99369: Remove client-side MathJax rendering mode.

The format may have changed from gif to png to svg but the idea is the same.

I am sorry, but unless you have technically informed comments, I would really recommend that users focus on the presented quality of the displayed formulas.

Jul 25 2015, 1:05 AM · WMF-deploy-2015-07-21_(1.26wmf15), Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Math

Jul 20 2015

Ozob added a comment to T99369: Remove client-side MathJax rendering mode.

I resent the "cognitive dissonance" personal attack, but I'll assume it was an accident.

Jul 20 2015, 4:14 AM · WMF-deploy-2015-07-21_(1.26wmf15), Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Math
Ozob added a comment to T99369: Remove client-side MathJax rendering mode.

And you can install the MathJaX extension for your browser of choice, as mentioned earlier, nothing precludes that.

Jul 20 2015, 3:01 AM · WMF-deploy-2015-07-21_(1.26wmf15), Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Math
Ozob added a comment to T99369: Remove client-side MathJax rendering mode.

Given that Chrome simply does not support MathML, has not supported it for years, and is not likely to support it for years more, MathML is a red herring. It's irrelevant to this discussion.

Jul 20 2015, 1:05 AM · WMF-deploy-2015-07-21_(1.26wmf15), Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Math

Jul 18 2015

Ozob added a comment to T99369: Remove client-side MathJax rendering mode.

@Physikerwelt: You seem to believe that the correct way to do mathematics rendering is through Mathoid. While Mathoid is a noble goal, MathJax works right now. Yes, there's integration work to be done, and no, I'm not saying it would be trivial. But doing MathJax integration right is still easier than what I think your goals for Mathoid are. Furthermore, it would allow us to get rid of the myriad rendering modes that MediaWiki currently supports. That's a step in the right direction, even if it's not perfect. I feel like this is a case of the perfect being the enemy of the good.

Jul 18 2015, 5:27 PM · WMF-deploy-2015-07-21_(1.26wmf15), Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Math

Jul 17 2015

Ozob added a comment to T99369: Remove client-side MathJax rendering mode.

As best as I can tell from the plugin documentation at:

Jul 17 2015, 2:50 PM · WMF-deploy-2015-07-21_(1.26wmf15), Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Math