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Mon, Jun 4

Pamputt added a comment to T195740: Decide on a way forward for acceptable languages for lemmas and representations.

Indeed, property is a good idea but how would you deal with Alptraum / Albtraum?

I would say Alptraum and Albtraum should be two Lexemes, not only one. And Form in Alptraum could be "Alptraums", "Alpträume", "Alpträumen" and so on. And the same for "Albtraum" with "Albtraums", "Albträume", "Albträumen" and so on.

Mon, Jun 4, 6:31 PM · Wikidata, Lexicographical data

Fri, Jun 1

Pamputt added a comment to T195740: Decide on a way forward for acceptable languages for lemmas and representations.

Tough questions.

Caveat: I'm not an expert (feel free to correct me), but I cam across several languages issues in my decade and half as Wikimedian.

My point of view is that the current system for the monolingual text is good but not enough for the lexemes needs. One (anecdotal) example, the 'fro' and 'frm' codes have been approved (in a week T181823, sometimes it can takes months), and they have added month ago but still not fully integrate (you need to enter the code itself, it's not possible to just add the name of the language). For items, I understand the caution and we can wait to be sure, but for lexemes this seem to slow to me.

I like the idea of « list of item that have instance of/subclass of language » but that's not enough as it didn't take into account the script.

In the end, I think the we need to go closer to the IETF BCP 47 system of tag (a world-wide standard, already used by a lot of online dictionaries and well documented, see BCP 47 text). We need several lists : one for language (ISO 639-1), one for territories (ISO 3166), one for script (ISO 15924, here the list is quite short) and maybe others subtags (dialects, variants and private uses). This is important for precisely reflect the lemmas, like French before or after the 1990 reform, German before/after the 1996 reform ; de-CH-1996 is gave as an example in the BCP 47 itself.

More importantly we need the ability to combine these lists like in the BCP 47.

Some example of why we need more flexibility and granularity:

  • the Kazakh language, was written in Arab, then in Latn, then in Cyrl and now they are going back to Latn... 4 (or 5) scripts is probably a record but it's not unusual for a language to have at least two scripts (I'm thinking of Serbian sr-Latn and sr-Cyrl, or Chinese: zh-Hant and zh-Hans).
  • one more extrem example: the Bornholm amulet has an inscription in Latin but written in runes. So if we want to model it correctly, we need the code "la-Runr". Runic latin is not common and have limited corpus but still, a wikidatian could want to work on that, and just add this word and move on (to an other strange epigraphy, like 4th century prototurkish written in Chinese characters).

    My view is more a technical one (a code is valid in his format), for the social and validation part (a code is valid regarding the content encoded), I'm not sure how to best handle it (should we let entirely to the community? and can it be articulate with the LangCom?)

    PS: anyhow, attention should be paid to the capitalization (ISO 639 is full lowercase, ISO 3166 is full uppercase and ISO 15924 has only the first letter in uppercase (the same letters can exists in different codes 'ca' for Catalan and 'CA' for Canada).

As explained in my prevuious message, I agree we need to specify at least language and script. For the rest (country, orthography reform, ...), I think the best way to store this kind of information is to use property in the lexeme itself. The advantages of the property is it is really flexible and so we can decide a psoteriori what kind of information we want to store in one lexeme.

Fri, Jun 1, 1:31 PM · Wikidata, Lexicographical data
Pamputt added a comment to T195740: Decide on a way forward for acceptable languages for lemmas and representations.

I strongly support the Micru's proposal. Using item to identify language, dialect or whatever is plenty of advantages:

  • it is really flexible. It is possible to use dialect, sub-dialect, language, proto-language, and so on
  • it is clearly identified. One item identify uniquely only one language. Several codes may be used to identify the same language.
  • it is already available and it will be maintained by the Wikidata community
  • it avoids conflicts on the language that are included. For example: it already exists items for Serbian, Croatian, Montenegrin and Bosnian languages. They are considered by some linguists as only one language. Since some people would like to contribute in only one of these "languages", using items allow that directly. If we use code, how do we manage such case?
Fri, Jun 1, 1:21 PM · Wikidata, Lexicographical data

Sun, May 27

Pamputt added a subtask for T66031: Video subtitle support (tracking): T195694: Timing shift with video subtitles.
Sun, May 27, 9:24 AM · TimedMediaHandler, Tracking
Pamputt added a parent task for T195694: Timing shift with video subtitles: T66031: Video subtitle support (tracking).
Sun, May 27, 9:24 AM · TimedMediaHandler-TimedText
Pamputt updated the task description for T195694: Timing shift with video subtitles.
Sun, May 27, 9:22 AM · TimedMediaHandler-TimedText
Pamputt created T195694: Timing shift with video subtitles.
Sun, May 27, 9:20 AM · TimedMediaHandler-TimedText

Mar 22 2018

Pamputt created T190445: Allow to import from the French Wiktionary to Incubator.
Mar 22 2018, 7:51 PM · Patch-For-Review, User-Urbanecm, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Mar 7 2018

Pamputt added a comment to T188552: Wikistats 2.0.: display the mean value for Total Page Views .

@Milimetric oh! Thanks for the explanation. I did not pay attention to this number underneath the graph. Indeed, this is the number I was looking for. So it is enough to me.

Mar 7 2018, 5:47 PM · Analytics-Wikistats, Analytics-Kanban

Mar 4 2018

Pamputt triaged T188859: Wikistats 2.0: Add statistics for the geographical origin of the contributors as Normal priority.
Mar 4 2018, 11:21 AM · Analytics-Wikistats, Analytics-Kanban
Pamputt added a comment to T188552: Wikistats 2.0.: display the mean value for Total Page Views .

Hmm, actually I misunderstood. I was thinking it displays the total of the whole displayed value. For example in your screenshot, it means the sum of the views for the months of April, May, June, ... until February 2018. Is it possible to add this number?

Mar 4 2018, 11:17 AM · Analytics-Wikistats, Analytics-Kanban

Mar 2 2018

Pamputt added a comment to T188552: Wikistats 2.0.: display the mean value for Total Page Views .

Total views on a given period is basically the same information so I think it is enough for my purpose; I asked this request because I usually use this kind of statistics to know how many pages are viewed each day (or each month) in mean.

Mar 2 2018, 6:35 AM · Analytics-Wikistats, Analytics-Kanban

Feb 28 2018

Pamputt triaged T188552: Wikistats 2.0.: display the mean value for Total Page Views as Normal priority.
Feb 28 2018, 9:08 PM · Analytics-Wikistats, Analytics-Kanban
Pamputt added a subtask for T130256: Wikistats 2.0.: T188550: Wikistats 2.0: allow to view stats for all language versions (a.k.a. Project families).
Feb 28 2018, 8:59 PM · Analytics-Kanban, Analytics-Wikistats
Pamputt added a parent task for T188550: Wikistats 2.0: allow to view stats for all language versions (a.k.a. Project families): T130256: Wikistats 2.0..
Feb 28 2018, 8:59 PM · Analytics, Analytics-Wikistats
Pamputt created T188550: Wikistats 2.0: allow to view stats for all language versions (a.k.a. Project families).
Feb 28 2018, 8:58 PM · Analytics, Analytics-Wikistats

Jan 20 2018

Pamputt committed rTPTAB399999035e32: Add "s" for second in missing places (authored by Pamputt).
Add "s" for second in missing places
Jan 20 2018, 8:46 PM
Pamputt committed rTPTAB87a54fbb8f25: Add "s" for second in missing places (authored by Pamputt).
Add "s" for second in missing places
Jan 20 2018, 12:45 AM

Jan 7 2018

Framawiki awarded T151172: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages a Heartbreak token.
Jan 7 2018, 5:46 PM · MediaWiki-Patrolling, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Wiktionary
Pamputt updated subscribers of T165950: Add commons uploads/link to wiktionary features to LinguaLibre.

Note that @0x010C got a grant from WMF to develop Lingua Libre. This task is planned to be achieved in 2018.

Jan 7 2018, 5:29 PM · Wikimedia-Hackathon-2017-Newcomer-Contribution, Wikimedia-Hackathon-2017, Commons, Wiktionary
Pamputt added a comment to T151172: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages.

Is there any update on this request?

Jan 7 2018, 5:20 PM · MediaWiki-Patrolling, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Wiktionary
Pamputt added a comment to T57303: the apostrophe problem in wiktionary.

Is this request still valid since there is now the Cognate extension which manage interwiki links

Jan 7 2018, 5:18 PM · Pywikibot-General, Wiktionary, Pywikibot-interwiki.py
Pamputt added a project to T164739: Allow page previews to display in wiktionary: Wiktionary.
Jan 7 2018, 5:14 PM · Need-volunteer, Reading-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, Mobile-Content-Service, Wiktionary, Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Epic, Page-Previews
Pamputt added a comment to T164739: Allow page previews to display in wiktionary.

Is there any chance that page preview be available for the Wiktionary projects?

Jan 7 2018, 5:14 PM · Need-volunteer, Reading-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, Mobile-Content-Service, Wiktionary, Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Epic, Page-Previews

Jan 5 2018

Pamputt added a comment to T100444: Graph localization support .

Is there any news about this? We need such feature on the French Wiktionary because name of the months are currently displayed in English (see the discussion (in French))

Jan 5 2018, 7:51 PM · Graphoid, I18n, Graphs

Dec 21 2017

Pamputt renamed T183492: Allow to add more than one value for the same claim at the same time from Allow to add more than one value for the same claim at one same time to Allow to add more than one value for the same claim at the same time.
Dec 21 2017, 7:46 PM · Pywikibot-Wikidata, Pywikibot-core
Pamputt renamed T183492: Allow to add more than one value for the same claim at the same time from Enable to add more than one value for the same claim at one same time to Allow to add more than one value for the same claim at one same time.
Dec 21 2017, 7:46 PM · Pywikibot-Wikidata, Pywikibot-core
Pamputt added a project to T183492: Allow to add more than one value for the same claim at the same time: Pywikibot-Wikidata.
Dec 21 2017, 7:13 PM · Pywikibot-Wikidata, Pywikibot-core
Pamputt created T183492: Allow to add more than one value for the same claim at the same time.
Dec 21 2017, 7:11 PM · Pywikibot-Wikidata, Pywikibot-core

Nov 19 2017

Pamputt added a comment to T154371: Review and deploy Timeless skin.

Note that the English Wiktionary community decided to support for enabling the Timeless skin.

Nov 19 2017, 7:57 AM · Developer-Relations, Chinese-Sites, Wikimedia-extension-review-queue, Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Wikimedia-Extension-setup, Community-consensus-needed, Timeless

Aug 29 2017

Pamputt added a comment to T168093: Copy-paste by middle-click with the mouse button on Linux pastes the text in the previous cursor location.

Actually, middle-click to paste works a bit with the visual editor on linux but not the same as in "normal" wikitext or in other any applications that I use on Linux.Here is how it works usually
1/ Select the words you want to copy (by clicking left and moving the mouse for example)
2/ Mouve your mouse to where you want to past the text you copied
3/ Middle-click allows to paste the text at the curosr position

Aug 29 2017, 10:30 PM · VisualEditor

Aug 19 2017

Pamputt added a comment to T172987: Match cʼh with c'h.

Agreed with @Lydia_Pintscher

Aug 19 2017, 7:59 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-05 (1.30.0-wmf.17)), Patch-For-Review, User-Addshore, WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2017-08-22, Wikidata-Former-Sprint-Board, Cognate

Jun 25 2017

Pamputt added a comment to T168093: Copy-paste by middle-click with the mouse button on Linux pastes the text in the previous cursor location.

Here, it does not work with Firefox and Mageia 5. Does it work for you on Firefox+Ubuntu?

Jun 25 2017, 12:19 PM · VisualEditor

Jun 17 2017

Thibaut120094 awarded T151172: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages a The World Burns token.
Jun 17 2017, 1:51 PM · MediaWiki-Patrolling, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Wiktionary
Pamputt added a comment to T168093: Copy-paste by middle-click with the mouse button on Linux pastes the text in the previous cursor location.

I am using KDE, so I think XFCE is not the guilty. Actually, I would not say that it is not "a very common use case"; I would say it is about linux users but indeed linux users are not so large. It is really common on Lin ux to use select/middle click to copy-paste.

Jun 17 2017, 9:27 AM · VisualEditor

Feb 8 2017

Pamputt updated subscribers of T156660: Enable the Visual Editor for Projet namespace on frwiktionary.

@Dereckson I guess so but maybe @Automatik could give a more reliable answer, especially for the second bullet.

Feb 8 2017, 7:02 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, VisualEditor, Wiktionary

Feb 6 2017

Pamputt added a comment to T113408: [Task] Add support for srq (Sirionó) to Wikidata.

Indeed, typing the code it works. So, the question becomes, is it possible to enable the choice from the drop down list? Thanks you in advance.

Feb 6 2017, 6:44 AM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Feb 5 2017

Pamputt added a comment to T113408: [Task] Add support for srq (Sirionó) to Wikidata.

Is it normal that it is still not possible to use the Siriono language on Wikidata. What is the schedule for this?

Feb 5 2017, 11:14 AM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Jan 30 2017

Pamputt created T156660: Enable the Visual Editor for Projet namespace on frwiktionary.
Jan 30 2017, 6:57 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, VisualEditor, Wiktionary

Nov 23 2016

Pamputt added a comment to T151173: Search engine does not find "ai dû" on the French Wiktionary..

Indeed, both links you provide look to work corretly. At least the y work much better than the current behaviour. Except highlighting that is sometimes missing, it is good.

Nov 23 2016, 6:17 PM · Discovery-Search (Current work), CirrusSearch, Discovery

Nov 20 2016

Pamputt created T151173: Search engine does not find "ai dû" on the French Wiktionary..
Nov 20 2016, 10:37 PM · Discovery-Search (Current work), CirrusSearch, Discovery
Pamputt created T151172: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages.
Nov 20 2016, 10:29 PM · MediaWiki-Patrolling, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Wiktionary

Nov 16 2016

Pamputt added a comment to T150146: Enable "translation memory" of translate extension on frwiktionary.

Yes it works. Thank you!

Nov 16 2016, 7:40 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, I18n, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Nov 6 2016

Pamputt created T150146: Enable "translation memory" of translate extension on frwiktionary.
Nov 6 2016, 11:53 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, I18n, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Sep 2 2016

Pamputt added a comment to T138972: Install Translate Extension in the French Wiktionary.

Since it is the end of holidays for most of you, is there any chance to see this extension be installed quickly on French Wiktionary? Thanks in advance

Sep 2 2016, 2:31 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Aug 3 2016

Pamputt added a comment to T138972: Install Translate Extension in the French Wiktionary.

Ok for the impossibility to only enable the extension on the Wiktionanaire namespace. I think it will not be a big deal to manage this from the translation admin point of view.

Aug 3 2016, 10:09 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Jul 31 2016

Pamputt added a comment to T138972: Install Translate Extension in the French Wiktionary.

Any news about that?

Jul 31 2016, 7:37 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Jul 25 2016

Pamputt added a comment to T139309: Text in bold and italic is displayed in bold even after the closing "tag".

Yes, exactly. Only in the translation tool.

Jul 25 2016, 4:53 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Jul 4 2016

Pamputt renamed T139309: Text in bold and italic is displayed in bold even after the closing "tag" from Text in bol and italic is displayed in bold even after the closing "tag" to Text in bold and italic is displayed in bold even after the closing "tag".
Jul 4 2016, 8:37 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Pamputt updated the task description for T139309: Text in bold and italic is displayed in bold even after the closing "tag".
Jul 4 2016, 7:31 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Pamputt created T139309: Text in bold and italic is displayed in bold even after the closing "tag".
Jul 4 2016, 7:31 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Pamputt added a comment to T138972: Install Translate Extension in the French Wiktionary.

Hi Aklapper, it has been discussed here. There is no opposition to install it if it is only enabled in the Wiktionnaire namespace.

Jul 4 2016, 4:49 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Jun 30 2016

Pamputt added a comment to T138972: Install Translate Extension in the French Wiktionary.

Also, would it be possible to enable this extension only on the "Wiktionnaire" namespace?

Jun 30 2016, 5:43 AM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Jun 29 2016

Pamputt created T138972: Install Translate Extension in the French Wiktionary.
Jun 29 2016, 7:05 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Feb 5 2016

Thibaut120094 awarded T126051: Enable CategoryMembershipChanges on French Wiktionary a Like token.
Feb 5 2016, 8:48 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary
Pamputt updated the task description for T126051: Enable CategoryMembershipChanges on French Wiktionary.
Feb 5 2016, 7:42 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary
Pamputt created T126051: Enable CategoryMembershipChanges on French Wiktionary.
Feb 5 2016, 7:41 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wiktionary

Oct 3 2015

Pamputt added a comment to T114547: Table of nuclides based on Wikidata.

We have properties for decays to and decay mode, but how do we identify stable nuclides?

Oct 3 2015, 9:07 AM · Tool-Wikidata-Periodic-Table, Wikidata

Sep 22 2015

Pamputt created T113408: [Task] Add support for srq (Sirionó) to Wikidata.
Sep 22 2015, 8:38 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata