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Wed, Jun 3

Pelagic added a comment to T253584: Strikethrough in Reply tool adds <s> tags with href attribute.

I got this on sup and span lang whilst making a visual-editing reply at diff 426998, described in
post vnjnk29hmsb98r71.

Wed, Jun 3, 10:38 AM · Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0), DiscussionTools

Tue, Jun 2

Pelagic added a comment to T236892: Communicate transition of Graph/Graphoid to client-side only JavaScript feature.

Agree with AlexisJazz, about need for more explanation. How is client-side JS more maintainable than server-side?

Tue, Jun 2, 6:21 PM · CommRel-Specialists-Support (Apr-Jun-2020)
Pelagic added a comment to T224851: Please centralize enwiki's feedback for VisualEditor .

So, ... this depends on the user's current wiki having Flow extension loaded so that it can post to Structured Discussions on mw-wiki?
I think I'm going to need a "Bex and a good lie down".

Tue, Jun 2, 6:05 AM · VisualEditor

Fri, May 8

Pelagic added a comment to T234966: Decide on HTML format for machine-readable signatures.

Is a CSS class on the whole block sufficient, or should we have additional separate classes for the configurable-text and timestamp sub-components? The intent of T27141 is to allow users to remove custom styling, either would do. Are there use cases where people would want to style the components separately?

Fri, May 8, 10:56 PM · OWC2020
Pelagic added a comment to T234966: Decide on HTML format for machine-readable signatures.

Is the sig. really a typeof Comment? (As illustrated in the example at T234966#5575981 above.) Wouldn't the associated text (usually but not necessarily preceding the signature) be the Comment?

Fri, May 8, 10:34 PM · OWC2020
Pelagic added a comment to T230652: Tilde stripping in signatures is inadequate.

I experimented with inserting my local time in my sig. At on stage I had nested {{subst:#time … {{subst:#expr … {{subst:#time …}}}}}} (subst one, subst 'em all), which would be banned under this proposal.

Fri, May 8, 10:08 AM · Editing-team (Tracking), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Parser

May 6 2020

Pelagic added a comment to T249072: Replying v2.0: add support in toolbar for special characters.

A comparison: desktop VE has a Symbol menu and desktop "classic" editor can have CharInsert, but Structured Discussions and mobile VE(?) only have a language-input selector, no symbols.

May 6 2020, 10:38 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0)
Pelagic added a comment to T250329: Show aliases in username completion list.

To remove the ambiguity, you could display both names in a 2-column drop-down. SD post vkpxssh1ty6lue6t

May 6 2020, 9:39 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 2.0)

Apr 25 2020

Pelagic added a comment to T205778: Ability to select different editors for mobile web.

This shouldn't depend on no-JS stats. I'd like to use the other editor but am not willing to disable JS, so I wouldn't be counted in those.

Apr 25 2020, 2:11 AM · Editing-team (Tracking), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, VisualEditor, Mobile-Web-Settings, MobileFrontend
Pelagic updated the task description for T251013: Interwiki link not rendering when using [[xyz:Page]] instead of [[:xyz:Page]].
Apr 25 2020, 2:06 AM
Pelagic created T251013: Interwiki link not rendering when using [[xyz:Page]] instead of [[:xyz:Page]].
Apr 25 2020, 2:00 AM

Apr 20 2020

Pelagic added a comment to T205778: Ability to select different editors for mobile web.

Should this be renamed from "Ability to select different editors" to "Ability to select different editors for mobile web" or similar?

Apr 20 2020, 10:09 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, VisualEditor, Mobile-Web-Settings, MobileFrontend
Pelagic added a comment to T249673: RFC: A modern and restrictive (but flexible!) skin system using Mustache.

Can this idea be extended to provide multiple end-user-selectable colour themes for a given skin? E.g. light, sepia, dark, black as in the mobile Wikipedia app and various eBook readers. Ideally something that can be toggled anywhere without going to Settings/Preferences.

Apr 20 2020, 9:43 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Core-Skin-Architecture, User-Jdlrobson, TechCom-RFC

Apr 17 2020

Pelagic added a comment to T202921: Re-design the Editing preferences to make it easier to pick the editing environment that you want to use.

Anyway, sorry for the digressions. If we move the 2017 NWE out of beta, but leave the 2006 toolbar as a gadget, then instead of a 3-item drop-down, we could have:

Apr 17 2020, 3:54 PM · Editing Design, MediaWiki-User-preferences, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, Design
Pelagic added a comment to T202921: Re-design the Editing preferences to make it easier to pick the editing environment that you want to use.

Minor observation: on en-wp,turning on-and-off the setting "Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta" (saving settings in between) resets the Editing mode dropdown back to “Remember my last editor”. Previous preference (in my case “Show me both editor tabs”) is not retained.

Apr 17 2020, 2:37 PM · Editing Design, MediaWiki-User-preferences, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, Design
Pelagic added a comment to T202921: Re-design the Editing preferences to make it easier to pick the editing environment that you want to use.

So are the actual choices something like as follows? (1)

Apr 17 2020, 1:35 PM · Editing Design, MediaWiki-User-preferences, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, Design

Mar 3 2020

Aklapper awarded T246565: DiscussionTools' Reply feature doesn't work on Internet Explorer 11 a Stroopwafel token.
Mar 3 2020, 3:42 AM · User-Ryasmeen, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.22; 2020-03-03), Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, DiscussionTools

Mar 1 2020

Pelagic created T246565: DiscussionTools' Reply feature doesn't work on Internet Explorer 11.
Mar 1 2020, 8:55 AM · User-Ryasmeen, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.22; 2020-03-03), Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, DiscussionTools
Pelagic created T246561: DiscussionTools new Reply experience not working for Safari on iOS, unable to publish comment..
Mar 1 2020, 6:52 AM · Editing-team, OWC2020 (OWC2020 Replying 1.0), DiscussionTools

Jan 21 2020

Pelagic added a comment to T243277: Commons Structured Data doesn't display in iOS Safari 9.3.5.

If the decision is "no bug fixes for such old devices", then fair enough. Just wanted to report that the issue exists.

Jan 21 2020, 11:07 AM · StructuredDataOnCommons
Pelagic created T243277: Commons Structured Data doesn't display in iOS Safari 9.3.5.
Jan 21 2020, 11:05 AM · StructuredDataOnCommons

Nov 7 2019

Pelagic added a comment to T123694: Allow mobile web edits to be marked as minor.

Agree with Sdkb. This and also the ability to edit or at least see the /* section */ part of the edit summary. See T234982: Varying approaches to section names in edit summaries (mobile vs desktop and visual vs wikitext). Mentioning it because it could be part of the same redesign (add checkbox for minor, add textbox for section).

Nov 7 2019, 7:37 PM · VisualEditor, Contributors-Team, MobileFrontend

Oct 11 2019

Pelagic added a comment to T235107: Change tags disclose non-public information about editors.

I respect the concerns of those raising this issue, but mobile devices (and the two dominant OSs that run them) are so prevalent that I don't think it says too much about a person to reveal that they are using the mobile site or the app.

Oct 11 2019, 12:18 AM · Privacy Engineering, Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, Advanced Mobile Contributions, Android-app-Bugs, iOS-app-Bugs, Mobile, Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog, MediaWiki-Change-tagging, Privacy

Oct 8 2019

Pelagic updated subscribers of T223793: On non-SET wikis (two edit tabs), links to new pages (red links) should open the user's preferred editor (last used).

I'm not a huge fan of remember last (which is why I choose two tabs on en.wp), but I do see it as a reasonable approach for logged-out users and for those who don't want to dive into tweaking their preference settings.

Oct 8 2019, 11:50 PM · VisualEditor, Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.8; 2019-06-04), User-notice, VisualEditor-MediaWiki
Pelagic added a comment to T223793: On non-SET wikis (two edit tabs), links to new pages (red links) should open the user's preferred editor (last used).

For those who are having issues with being given the most-recent editor for redlinks, could we adapt the existing SET preference setting? (English settings pictured below.)

Oct 8 2019, 10:18 PM · VisualEditor, Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board), MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.8; 2019-06-04), User-notice, VisualEditor-MediaWiki
Pelagic added a comment to T234982: Varying approaches to section names in edit summaries (mobile vs desktop and visual vs wikitext).

Related tasks:

Oct 8 2019, 8:03 PM · Editing-team, WikiEditor, Contributors-Team, Section Editing, MobileFrontend, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, Editing Design, Mobile
Pelagic updated the task description for T234982: Varying approaches to section names in edit summaries (mobile vs desktop and visual vs wikitext).
Oct 8 2019, 6:31 PM · Editing-team, WikiEditor, Contributors-Team, Section Editing, MobileFrontend, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, Editing Design, Mobile
Pelagic added a comment to T234982: Varying approaches to section names in edit summaries (mobile vs desktop and visual vs wikitext).

Apologies for splatter-gunning the tags; this is very much a cross-team question and not sure which ones are most appropriate.

Oct 8 2019, 6:29 PM · Editing-team, WikiEditor, Contributors-Team, Section Editing, MobileFrontend, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, Editing Design, Mobile
Pelagic created T234982: Varying approaches to section names in edit summaries (mobile vs desktop and visual vs wikitext).
Oct 8 2019, 6:27 PM · Editing-team, WikiEditor, Contributors-Team, Section Editing, MobileFrontend, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, Editing Design, Mobile

Oct 6 2019

Pelagic added a comment to T18691: RFC: Section header "share" link.

This task looks pretty mature, and a lot of decisions are already committed. A few extra thoughts anyway:

Oct 6 2019, 9:51 PM · User-Jdlrobson, Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), Patch-For-Review, TechCom-RFC, Design, MediaWiki-Interface
Pelagic added a comment to T18691: RFC: Section header "share" link.

I was planning to log a feature request ticket, but found that this task already exists. For what it’s worth here is my user story:

Oct 6 2019, 8:36 PM · User-Jdlrobson, Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), Patch-For-Review, TechCom-RFC, Design, MediaWiki-Interface

Oct 4 2019

Pelagic added a comment to T203151: Consider adding a button to let users edit the whole page in MobileFrontend.

At time of writing this, there is no longer any edit page button on mobile. And the section-name part of the edit summary is not just enforced, but is invisible. If I want to add a section, I have to switch to desktop view or leave an incorrect edit summary.

Oct 4 2019, 5:43 PM · Design, MobileFrontend, VisualEditor
Pelagic added a comment to T203151: Consider adding a button to let users edit the whole page in MobileFrontend.

In Minerva without AMC, you could add a button at the end of the page alongside "Discussion". But this might be too prominent. Could we put it beside the button(s) but make it a smaller link rather than a big button? (Similar to the Cancel link on the right of the Publish | Preview | Changes buttons in desktop wikitext editor, but not bold nor red.)

Oct 4 2019, 5:40 PM · Design, MobileFrontend, VisualEditor
Pelagic added a comment to T178159: Enforce section name when editing a section.

when inserting navboxes at the bottom

Oct 4 2019, 4:59 PM · MediaWiki-Page-editing
Pelagic added a comment to T178159: Enforce section name when editing a section.

When inserting a section one ought to use the Edit page button instead of edit the section, …
Anyone have any feedback?

Oct 4 2019, 4:45 PM · MediaWiki-Page-editing
Pelagic added a comment to T234659: Buttons or menu items for whole-page editing and top-section editing in AMC using new page actions bar.

This may be a subset of T203151: Consider adding a button to let users edit the whole page in MobileFrontend, depending on the scope of that.

Oct 4 2019, 3:56 PM · Design, Advanced Mobile Contributions
Pelagic created T234659: Buttons or menu items for whole-page editing and top-section editing in AMC using new page actions bar.
Oct 4 2019, 3:46 PM · Design, Advanced Mobile Contributions

Sep 26 2019

Pelagic awarded T122924: Merge Extension:Theme into core a 100 token.
Sep 26 2019, 1:22 PM · TechCom-RFC, Patch-For-Review, Technical-Debt, Theme, Front-end-Standards-Group, MediaWiki-Interface
Pelagic added a comment to T230657: Thanks extension is not shown on MobileFrontend history page (AMC mode).

If you remove Thank from desktop history page, you're likely to get an outpouring of complaints, of "where did it go?" questions, and of "we weren't consulted" accusations.

Sep 26 2019, 8:56 AM · MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), Growth Design, Thanks, Growth-Team, Advanced Mobile Contributions
Pelagic added a comment to T230657: Thanks extension is not shown on MobileFrontend history page (AMC mode).

Similarly, is it useful to Undo without seeing the diff?

  • Maybe if a user is repeatedly deleting the same sourced material and you see another red "-425" character count again…
  • Maybe if you're undoing your own boo-boo.
  • Also, a bad Undo can be undone (?) but a mistaken Thank can't be revoked.
Sep 26 2019, 8:38 AM · MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), Growth Design, Thanks, Growth-Team, Advanced Mobile Contributions
Pelagic added a comment to T233845: Non-AMC Mobile watchlist shows opaque names for Structured Discussion topics.

Pains me to say this, but issue appears to have been logged previously at T93565: The "All" and "Other" tabs on MobileFrontend watchlist show Flow gibberish topic ID links instead of topic titles.

Sep 26 2019, 7:52 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), Mobile, MediaWiki-Watchlist, StructuredDiscussions, Growth-Team
Pelagic added a comment to T233845: Non-AMC Mobile watchlist shows opaque names for Structured Discussion topics.

Thanks for clarifying about AMC, @Jdlrobson.

Sep 26 2019, 7:26 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), Mobile, MediaWiki-Watchlist, StructuredDiscussions, Growth-Team
Pelagic added a comment to T206094: Add night mode to Minerva.

Ideally there would be two dark themes: very black (for OLED) and not-so-black (for LCD). That's been done for the Wikipedia mobile apps. (And as far back as 2012, T44332 mentioned OLED as a motivator for dark themes.) Maybe "has more colour themes" is a selling point for the app, though.

Sep 26 2019, 2:12 AM · Patch-For-Review, Readers-Web-Backlog (Design)

Sep 25 2019

Pelagic updated the task description for T233845: Non-AMC Mobile watchlist shows opaque names for Structured Discussion topics.
Sep 25 2019, 9:03 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), Mobile, MediaWiki-Watchlist, StructuredDiscussions, Growth-Team
Pelagic created T233845: Non-AMC Mobile watchlist shows opaque names for Structured Discussion topics.
Sep 25 2019, 9:02 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages), Mobile, MediaWiki-Watchlist, StructuredDiscussions, Growth-Team

Sep 24 2019

Pelagic added a comment to T219392: AMC: add "In other projects" action to page actions overflow menu.

Out of curiosity, how does the system determine "matching page" in other projects? Same name, same wikidata, existence of in-page links or templates? Are redirects considered?

Sep 24 2019, 9:23 PM · Wikidata, Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), User-Jdlrobson, Advanced Mobile Contributions