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Thu, Nov 14

Piramidion updated the task description for T238295: Deploy Welcome Survey to Ukrainian Wikipedia.
Thu, Nov 14, 7:05 PM · Product-Analytics, GrowthExperiments, Growth-Team

Sun, Oct 27

Piramidion added a comment to T231720: Deploy Growth experiments at Ukrainian Wikipedia.

So, the translations are ready, and everything else seems to be done as well. Is there anything else we should do here? If not - please deploy the feature at Ukrainian Wikipedia.

Sun, Oct 27, 9:09 PM · Growth-Team

Tue, Oct 22

Piramidion updated the task description for T231720: Deploy Growth experiments at Ukrainian Wikipedia.
Tue, Oct 22, 7:09 PM · Growth-Team

Oct 17 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T235188: Preemptive refresh in getMultiWithSetCallback() and getMultiWithUnionSetCallback() pollutes cache.

Privacy policy/Proposed Revisions/uk on Meta-wiki is broken, the bug is still there (just sayin')

Oct 17 2019, 9:25 PM · serviceops, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.2; 2019-10-15), Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), User-ArielGlenn, Language-Team (Language-2019-October-December), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-General, affects-translatewiki.net

Oct 16 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T235188: Preemptive refresh in getMultiWithSetCallback() and getMultiWithUnionSetCallback() pollutes cache.

Yesterday I encountered a message on Meta-wiki that'd been showing a wrong content. Unlike other previously reported messages, it wasn't properly purged after the hotfix was deployed. I managed to purge it with a real edit instead of a null one (added a character > saved, removed the character > saved), if this info helps in any way.

Oct 16 2019, 7:43 AM · serviceops, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.2; 2019-10-15), Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), User-ArielGlenn, Language-Team (Language-2019-October-December), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-General, affects-translatewiki.net

Oct 13 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T235188: Preemptive refresh in getMultiWithSetCallback() and getMultiWithUnionSetCallback() pollutes cache.

But it seems it's not a TWN only issue. The bug has been reported also on Meta-wiki and mediawiki.org, i. e. the projects which use the Translate extension.

Oct 13 2019, 12:45 PM · serviceops, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.2; 2019-10-15), Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), User-ArielGlenn, Language-Team (Language-2019-October-December), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-General, affects-translatewiki.net
Piramidion added a comment to T235330: Multiple issues with translation units, the translate extension seems to be broken in some way.

@Ata That's a good point. Though I'm seeing the chunk of text instead of a single word in this message (yesterday it said just "Захист", while the chunk of text was visible in the history only). Also it doesn't explain how that exact chunk of text ended up here (it is displayed on the target page now in the header where the "Welcome!" message should be)

Oct 13 2019, 6:40 AM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Oct 12 2019

Piramidion updated the task description for T235330: Multiple issues with translation units, the translate extension seems to be broken in some way.
Oct 12 2019, 1:35 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion created T235330: Multiple issues with translation units, the translate extension seems to be broken in some way.
Oct 12 2019, 1:23 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T231720: Deploy Growth experiments at Ukrainian Wikipedia.

I tried to translate the Privacy policy today, but the translation extension seems to be broken right now. It does some really weird stuff, which makes the translation generally impossible at this moment.

Oct 12 2019, 12:46 PM · Growth-Team

Jul 15 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T227995: FlaggedRev's 'Pending changes' article status bar is not compact on uk.wp due to local CSS changes.

Thanks for finding the root of the problem. And I apologize for wasting your time.

Jul 15 2019, 11:43 AM · Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Jul 14 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T227995: FlaggedRev's 'Pending changes' article status bar is not compact on uk.wp due to local CSS changes.

This is what it looks like in plwiki (see the eye icon on the right). In ruwiki it's completely different (the same look as for the registered users in ukwiki)

Jul 14 2019, 10:14 PM · Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Piramidion updated the task description for T227995: FlaggedRev's 'Pending changes' article status bar is not compact on uk.wp due to local CSS changes.
Jul 14 2019, 10:01 PM · Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Piramidion renamed T227995: FlaggedRev's 'Pending changes' article status bar is not compact on uk.wp due to local CSS changes from A small fix for ukwiki to Make the 'pending changes' article status bar more compact and consistent.
Jul 14 2019, 10:01 PM · Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Piramidion added a comment to T227995: FlaggedRev's 'Pending changes' article status bar is not compact on uk.wp due to local CSS changes.

The downward pointing arrow is on the far left, the dropdown message is on the far right. The whole thing looks like an empty box taking so much space at the top of the article for no reason.

Jul 14 2019, 9:39 PM · Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Piramidion created T227995: FlaggedRev's 'Pending changes' article status bar is not compact on uk.wp due to local CSS changes.
Jul 14 2019, 6:15 PM · Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Jun 1 2019

Piramidion updated the task description for T224802: Provide a way to move a file to Commons when it has an OTRS tag.
Jun 1 2019, 8:02 AM · TCB-Team, Move-Files-To-Commons
Restricted Application added a project to T224802: Provide a way to move a file to Commons when it has an OTRS tag: TCB-Team.
Jun 1 2019, 8:00 AM · TCB-Team, Move-Files-To-Commons

Mar 24 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T7642: Provide "add new section" link at the bottom of (discussion) pages.

Is there a way to place the link before the "edit" link? Because if I simply change the .after values to .before, the link is created correctly, but for some reason it duplicates the "edit source" label, so I get something like (edit source | edit source), or (ред. код | ред. код) if I'm supposed to be precise. I don't know what causes this, because in English Wikipedia such a change works as intended.

Mar 24 2019, 5:06 PM · MediaWiki-Page-editing

Feb 11 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T215816: IP autoblock set during a registered user block affects other registered users of the same IP address.

I have closed this task, since it seems to be an intended behavior, per this enwiki page. Still doesn't make much sense to me, since when you block a separate IP address, you don't have to prevent the registered users from editing (even though there's an option for it). I don't get why autoblock does work that way.

Feb 11 2019, 9:12 PM · MediaWiki-User-management
Piramidion closed T215816: IP autoblock set during a registered user block affects other registered users of the same IP address as Declined.
Feb 11 2019, 9:07 PM · MediaWiki-User-management
Piramidion updated the task description for T215816: IP autoblock set during a registered user block affects other registered users of the same IP address.
Feb 11 2019, 4:42 PM · MediaWiki-User-management
Piramidion triaged T215816: IP autoblock set during a registered user block affects other registered users of the same IP address as Unbreak Now! priority.
Feb 11 2019, 4:28 PM · MediaWiki-User-management
Piramidion created T215816: IP autoblock set during a registered user block affects other registered users of the same IP address.
Feb 11 2019, 4:27 PM · MediaWiki-User-management

Feb 2 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T214602: Labeled section transclusion incompatible with translate extension.

Today I was struggling with a page on Commons, as there were some changes made to the original, so I had to restore the translation tags (wasn't aware of the problem), and mark the page for translation for the changes to apply to the translated pages. Then I saw that the sections of the page are being transcluded faultly. At first it said that "no information is available" under the relevant section. Then I removed the section header comment, and noticed that it's displaying the <translate> tags and refuses to display the rest of the transcluded sections (the ones that go below) on that page. So I removed the page from translation system. Indeed, it's impossible to work with those pages right now.

Feb 2 2019, 5:12 AM · MediaWiki-extensions-LabeledSectionTransclusion, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Jan 31 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T214333: CX 2 conflicts with an abuse filter on ukwiki, and has some other major issues.

Hello? Anyone? There are more people complaining about the abuse filter being triggered on headers. Is there any workaround or something?

Jan 31 2019, 12:10 AM · ContentTranslation

Jan 22 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T213237: [testwiki wmf.12] Long Reference list produces "Automatic translation failed".

It's not only about long reference lists (which I confirm, see point 3 here T214333, there's my error console screenshot too), I had this issue with some short paragraphs too. They just wouldn't load, and then the message "Automatic translation failed" appears on the right.

Jan 22 2019, 1:30 AM · ContentTranslation
Piramidion added a comment to T214335: ContentTranslation2: Problem reports flashes and goes away.

I reported this here T214333 too (under point 2), and it's good to have a separate report about this issue. AFAICT, to open the third report, you have to locate the paragraph that's triggered it first. Place the cursor there and you'll be able to open the problem details.

Jan 22 2019, 1:11 AM · ContentTranslation

Jan 21 2019

Piramidion created T214333: CX 2 conflicts with an abuse filter on ukwiki, and has some other major issues.
Jan 21 2019, 9:54 PM · ContentTranslation

Jan 19 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T210739: Target deletion during page move fails.

Ukwiki is affected too, so I would support the mention in the Tech news for other wikis.

Jan 19 2019, 1:54 PM · Core Platform Team Workboards (Done with CPT), MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.14; 2019-01-22), Anti-Harassment, Patch-For-Review, User-notice, Core Platform Team (Needs Cleaning - Security, stability, performance, and scalability (TEC1)), MediaWiki-Special-pages, Wikimedia-production-error

Jan 13 2019

Piramidion added a comment to T213658: Allow translators to distinguish between two single apostrophes '' (markup) vs. " quotation marks in strings to be translated.

I'm using Chrome on Windows, and the inspector shows me the same - font-family is sans-serif, coming from body (the sans-serif coming from html is stroke out for some reason - idk if this matters, I'm not a coder)

Jan 13 2019, 6:14 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion updated the task description for T213658: Allow translators to distinguish between two single apostrophes '' (markup) vs. " quotation marks in strings to be translated.
Jan 13 2019, 5:25 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion updated the task description for T213658: Allow translators to distinguish between two single apostrophes '' (markup) vs. " quotation marks in strings to be translated.
Jan 13 2019, 5:25 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion created T213658: Allow translators to distinguish between two single apostrophes '' (markup) vs. " quotation marks in strings to be translated.
Jan 13 2019, 5:16 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Dec 15 2018

Piramidion added a comment to T56914: Login with the required password change doesn't log me in globally.

A user reported this recently. Apparently he's using a temporary password, as he doesn't know neither his current, nor his old passwords. It stays saved in his browser, so he's able to log into Wikipedia, but the problem is he cannot log into any other project, like Wikidata or Commons. He also says that the system randomly logs him out on Wikipedia too. Is there a way to fix this issue as per user, so that he can keep working like usual, until this entire problem is resolved?

Dec 15 2018, 4:16 PM · MediaWiki-User-login-and-signup, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth

Sep 5 2018

Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).

Thanks! I've fixed it (I didn't know the bot uses TemplateData)

Sep 5 2018, 9:56 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons

Sep 3 2018

Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).

There is one more problem: for some reason the IABot interface adds another "accessdate" parameter while there already exists "access-date" parameter. It should remove the latter one (diff). How can we fix this?

Sep 3 2018, 8:03 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons

Sep 1 2018

Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).

In T151446#4550808, @Cyberpower678 wrote:
Templates are not advised in edit summaries. Can you replace that with suitable words so I can properly update the configuration?

Sep 1 2018, 6:16 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons
Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).

The IABot interface provides strange edit description, see here. Can you fix it, please?

Sep 1 2018, 5:25 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons

Jun 7 2018

Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).

Hi,
You can start a new request for a bot flag here. This process should be quick.

Jun 7 2018, 7:40 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons

Mar 3 2018

Piramidion added a comment to T102940: Right click on ContentTranslation hovermenu does not work.

I didn't like FF while on Linux - it used to be very slow. On Windows it runs much better, indeed. As for a mouse wheel - I, personally, never use it's click function, and tbh, I didn't even know it can open links in new tabs as well, so thanks for the info.

Mar 3 2018, 2:48 PM · WorkType-Maintenance, ContentTranslation
Piramidion added a comment to T102940: Right click on ContentTranslation hovermenu does not work.

Please read the comments carefully and take into consideration the other browsers as well. It still doesn't work on Firefox, and I installed that browser solely to confirm this.

Mar 3 2018, 10:44 AM · WorkType-Maintenance, ContentTranslation
Piramidion reopened T102940: Right click on ContentTranslation hovermenu does not work as "Open".
Mar 3 2018, 10:42 AM · WorkType-Maintenance, ContentTranslation

Sep 12 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T175697: Don't move the Filter search bar when user clicks on it.

I'll clarify: I suggest to stop moving the page itself up or down. Let the filter search bar stay where it is the moment one clicks on it (leave it static, but preserve the scaling of the list of filters). And let the users decide where they want to see it by using a mouse wheel

Sep 12 2017, 2:46 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter), Patch-For-Review, Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters

Jul 10 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).

As can be seen from the discussion (link), there's a clear consensus to enable IABot on ukwiki. We'd like the bot to add archive urls to all the urls, including the live ones. And also we'd like the bot to leave messages on the talk pages if it encounters some dead urls that haven't been archived and cannot be fixed.

Jul 10 2017, 6:15 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons
Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).
Jul 10 2017, 6:15 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons

Jul 3 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T151446: Deploy InternetArchiveBot on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (ukwiki).

Thank you, @Cyberpower678 . I've translated your message into Ukrainian. I hope you don't mind ;)

Jul 3 2017, 6:17 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive, WMUA-Hackathons

May 31 2017

Piramidion added a project to T166723: NWE preview doesn't process language conversion using {{autotranslate}}: VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor.
May 31 2017, 7:31 PM · Parsoid, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
Piramidion created T166723: NWE preview doesn't process language conversion using {{autotranslate}}.
May 31 2017, 7:30 PM · Parsoid, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor

May 15 2017

Piramidion awarded T165238: Source editor fails to load on direct non-view page loads where the wiki doesn't have Single Edit Tab enabled a Like token.
May 15 2017, 3:42 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, User-Urbanecm, Regression
Piramidion added a comment to T165238: Source editor fails to load on direct non-view page loads where the wiki doesn't have Single Edit Tab enabled.

@TheDJ, T165132 is due to the New Editor which I did not enable. I am facing this issue when I try to use the old editor.

May 15 2017, 5:25 AM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, User-Urbanecm, Regression

May 14 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T165238: Source editor fails to load on direct non-view page loads where the wiki doesn't have Single Edit Tab enabled.

Hm... didn't notice this issue yet with 2017 editor disabled

May 14 2017, 7:51 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, User-Urbanecm, Regression
Piramidion added a comment to T165238: Source editor fails to load on direct non-view page loads where the wiki doesn't have Single Edit Tab enabled.

https://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loremipsumdolorsitamet&action=edit&redlink=1&uselang=en&venoscript=1
in order to work.

May 14 2017, 6:36 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, User-Urbanecm, Regression
Piramidion added a comment to T165238: Source editor fails to load on direct non-view page loads where the wiki doesn't have Single Edit Tab enabled.

@Aklapper Please read the description of the merged task: T165236 The issue's not the same for all the users. And it seems it has something to do with the wiki settings, since on enwiki I didn't notice any problems at the first glance.

May 14 2017, 6:21 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, User-Urbanecm, Regression
Piramidion edited projects for T165238: Source editor fails to load on direct non-view page loads where the wiki doesn't have Single Edit Tab enabled, added: VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor; removed MediaWiki-General.
May 14 2017, 4:23 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, User-Urbanecm, Regression
Piramidion added a comment to T165238: Source editor fails to load on direct non-view page loads where the wiki doesn't have Single Edit Tab enabled.

Please merge T165236, it's on the same problem

May 14 2017, 2:43 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor, User-Urbanecm, Regression
Piramidion added a comment to T165236: 2017 wikitext editor forses users to reload the page and causes other problems.

I've made a test in dawiki – red links don't open instantly, but show the message suggesting to reload the page. The same as in ukwiki. In enwiki I see this message too, but the editor loads on its own, I didn't notice any major problems there.

May 14 2017, 8:25 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor
Piramidion renamed T165236: 2017 wikitext editor forses users to reload the page and causes other problems from Wikitext editor 2017 forses users to reload the page and causes other problems to 2017 wikitext editor forses users to reload the page and causes other problems.
May 14 2017, 8:15 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor
Piramidion triaged T165236: 2017 wikitext editor forses users to reload the page and causes other problems as High priority.
May 14 2017, 8:13 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor
Piramidion created T165236: 2017 wikitext editor forses users to reload the page and causes other problems.
May 14 2017, 8:11 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor

Apr 14 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

The Special:AggregateGroups slowness can be solved using pagination, as mentioned in T90511

Apr 14 2017, 7:05 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Apr 1 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160106: Test and analyze new Ukrainian language analyzers.

I don't get, why шлем is in this group.

It's a (poetic) form of "шлемо", can be found here under "слати". The same is generally true for all or nearly all the other words ending in -мо: пам'ятаємо/пам'ятаєм, пронизуємо/пронизуєм etc. (took too long for me to write this)

Apr 1 2017, 4:46 PM · MW-1.29-release-notes, Epic, Discovery-Search (Current work), Discovery

Mar 31 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160106: Test and analyze new Ukrainian language analyzers.

Is it rare to have words that differ only by stress?

I'd say it is for Ukrainian. I didn't find too many pairs. Besides, we seldom use stresses: the meaning of such words is understood from the context, and without the stress marks you won't be able to programmatically tell the difference.

Mar 31 2017, 6:29 PM · MW-1.29-release-notes, Epic, Discovery-Search (Current work), Discovery
Piramidion added a comment to T160106: Test and analyze new Ukrainian language analyzers.

As for the first sample of 100 groups, it looks OK. Some of the groups seem to contain a mix of abreviations and regular words (like [19 ПАР][2 Пара][1 Пари]... where the first one seems to be an abbreviation for the Republic of South Africa), but generally there are no errors.

Mar 31 2017, 1:22 AM · MW-1.29-release-notes, Epic, Discovery-Search (Current work), Discovery

Mar 29 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T142489: Pages with translate tag in nowiki are proposed for translation.

I noticed this issue on Meta-wiki too, and resolved it on-wiki by putting the <nowiki> tags into the <translate> tags themselves like this:

<<nowiki>translate> </translate</nowiki>>

or something similar.

Mar 29 2017, 4:39 PM · Parsoid-Nowiki, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 27 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160902: Allow nesting of AggregateMessageGroups in Special:LanguageStats via Special:AggregateGroups.

Thank you all. I'll remain silent from now on.

Mar 27 2017, 11:47 AM · User-Nikerabbit, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160902: Allow nesting of AggregateMessageGroups in Special:LanguageStats via Special:AggregateGroups.

By the recurse to apodictic statements I consider you forfeit reasoning. Hence it's proven that nested groups are not generally positive. Thanks.

Mar 27 2017, 9:56 AM · User-Nikerabbit, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160902: Allow nesting of AggregateMessageGroups in Special:LanguageStats via Special:AggregateGroups.

Obvious is obvious. Your examples are irrelevant.

Mar 27 2017, 9:16 AM · User-Nikerabbit, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 24 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160902: Allow nesting of AggregateMessageGroups in Special:LanguageStats via Special:AggregateGroups.

I don't know who is "searching for affiliates' message groups". Do you know some such translators?

You got me wrong. I meant that the "Affiliates" aggregate group should contain the message groups for all the affiliates, not just some of them (while the others are kept outside as if they're special or smth). Being one of "such translators", when I open the "Affiliates" aggregate group, I expect to find there all the affiliate related message groups, including the one for Maithili Wikimedians User Group, because this is simply obvious.

Mar 24 2017, 8:55 PM · User-Nikerabbit, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 23 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160902: Allow nesting of AggregateMessageGroups in Special:LanguageStats via Special:AggregateGroups.

TL;DR again or what? Because I don't think that my English is that bad for you to not understand what I write. Besides, I've been talking about working with Special:AggregateGroups and that it works extremely slow on Meta-wiki. How could I possibly know that without being a translation admin myself?

Mar 23 2017, 8:54 PM · User-Nikerabbit, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 22 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

Is there a possibility to add a purge function for a separate aggregate group for a single language? I noticed that if I open such a group on Special:MessageGroupStats (for example, the mentioned "Affiliates" group which's been showing 1055 untranslated messages all the time) and purge that single page, the stats on Special:LanguageStats get updated too. But still if the group is a large one, it takes some time to populate the stats for all the languages.

Mar 22 2017, 6:35 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160902: Allow nesting of AggregateMessageGroups in Special:LanguageStats via Special:AggregateGroups.

Yes, I'm asking for the possibility of nesting. That would help to make Special:LanguageStats somewhat shorter in size (visually) on Meta-wiki, and would help to eliminate the clutter by clustering the related aggregate groups into larger parent groups.

Mar 22 2017, 6:18 PM · User-Nikerabbit, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 20 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

The "low" and "normal" priority tasks you mentioned, created up to 1.5 year ago, don't seem to be fruitful either. I'm not a coder, I don't know how to formulate the current problem for someone to start working on the solution.

Mar 20 2017, 11:39 AM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion created T160902: Allow nesting of AggregateMessageGroups in Special:LanguageStats via Special:AggregateGroups.
Mar 20 2017, 11:30 AM · User-Nikerabbit, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

Well, I'm not looking for a workaround, I want a complex solution. If you provide some ways to update the statistics for separate aggregate groups manually or fix the automatic update – that would be really nice, but the problem is more complex than this.

Mar 20 2017, 11:10 AM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

Before I started to translate "Affiliates" message group yesterday, it'd been showing 1055 untranslated messages. I've translated several more messages today but it still shows 1055 untranslated messages. No need to purge you say? Special:MessageGroupStats shows the same. How am I supposed to see the actual stats? I don't overuse that "purge" feature – I usually use it only after the whole large message group or several smaller are translated. Do you want to remove that feature without addressing the problems mentioned or what? Something like "out of sight, out of mind"?

Mar 20 2017, 8:38 AM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

No, it's not about "updating faster", I'm purging the page to make the translated aggregate groups disappear. They just don't go away after I finish the translation, and if I don't purge, I have to wait for several days to see them vanish. Are you trying to tell me this is OK?

Mar 20 2017, 8:27 AM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

Yes, one shouldn't purge the stats pages without a good reason.

Mar 20 2017, 6:59 AM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 19 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

I guess the devs should do something about how the stats are collected. There's a noticeable lag in that. For example, if I open a separate but large aggregate message group, and press the tab "Message group statistics", I get the red message saying that the statistics is incomplete, and a lot of grey color with three dots instead of data. Then I reload and reload and reload – do that multiple times until the statistics turns complete (the page adds data for ~5 languages at a time).

Mar 19 2017, 4:08 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 17 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

I think I've ruined stats for Italian too
https://www.webpagetest.org/result/170317_7D_DTG/

Mar 17 2017, 6:39 AM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Mar 15 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

The group "Stewards elections 2016" doesn't show statistics for Italian either. And still no totals. Besides, that's not only my problem. Today I'd asked another translator to tell me how many untranslated messages there are, and she sent me a PDF with Special:LanguageStats and it contained no totals and no data on certain message groups.

Mar 15 2017, 11:53 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion added a comment to T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.

Sometimes I need to purge Special:LanguageStats to update the statistics that doesn't want to update on its own. I do it this way:

  • I add ?&action=purge to the page url and press enter
  • if the purge was successful (sometimes there's an error) I press any of the message groups to open them in the translation system
  • then I return to Special:LanguageStats by manually typing it in the search field and press Enter.
  • there I get a red message saying "Some of the statistics on this page are incomplete. Please reload to get more statistics." I reload until it disappears. But if my connection is a bit slow, I get all or nearly all the message groups (including the 100% translated ones) with three dots instead of message count
Mar 15 2017, 8:21 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate
Piramidion created T160565: Special:LanguageStats fails to update statistics in various cases.
Mar 15 2017, 7:38 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-05-09_(1.30.0-wmf.1)), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-team April-June 2017, Performance Issue, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Jan 12 2017

Piramidion added a comment to T139456: Translation of Page display title in the Special:PageMigration (does not shown field for first translation unit).

Reported here today.
Is there a way to show all the translation units if the title translation is disabled? Shouldn't there be some code that tells if it is enabled or disabled? If there is, can it be used to determine if the first translation unit should be hidden or not?

Jan 12 2017, 3:08 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Jan 1 2017

Piramidion created T154401: Prevent falling back to Russian when Ukrainian translation is missing on Wikimedia Commons.
Jan 1 2017, 6:12 PM · Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, Commons

Dec 28 2016

Piramidion added a comment to T111913: [Story] In the "other projects" sidebar on multilingual wikis, link to wikis in the user language.

I think that the way the issue is described here is incorrect. See the correct and more detailed description in T154181
Now I can see that the description IS correct, but the issues are quite different. This is why I doubt that merging these was a good idea.

Dec 28 2016, 12:32 PM · Story, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata

Dec 27 2016

Piramidion added a comment to T154181: Provide an easy way to localize links to some projects' main pages on the sidebar.

Go to any Russian wiki (e.g. Russian Wikipedia) and follow any of the links I mentioned, except MediaWiki (it's still in English for some reason) – you'll get to the appropriate projects' main pages in Russian.

Dec 27 2016, 4:28 PM · I18n, Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient
Piramidion created T154181: Provide an easy way to localize links to some projects' main pages on the sidebar.
Dec 27 2016, 11:58 AM · I18n, Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient

Dec 18 2016

Piramidion awarded T39314: Remove Russian fallback for Ukrainian language a Love token.
Dec 18 2016, 9:44 PM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4)), Language-Q2-2016-17 Sprint 4, Language-Engineering October-December 2016, Community-Relations-Support, MediaWiki-Internationalization
Piramidion closed T39314: Remove Russian fallback for Ukrainian language as Resolved.
Dec 18 2016, 9:37 PM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4)), Language-Q2-2016-17 Sprint 4, Language-Engineering October-December 2016, Community-Relations-Support, MediaWiki-Internationalization
Piramidion added a comment to T39314: Remove Russian fallback for Ukrainian language.

Most likely the change was not deployed there yet when you asked. If it still happens, you please file a subtask with more details.

No, it's OK now, thanks.

Dec 18 2016, 9:37 PM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4)), Language-Q2-2016-17 Sprint 4, Language-Engineering October-December 2016, Community-Relations-Support, MediaWiki-Internationalization

Dec 14 2016

Piramidion added a comment to T153255: Promote the signature button to the toolbar (or somewhere else more prominent) in VE/NWE.

The last time we measured this I believe it was very rare for people to click on the "sign" button in the existing wikitext editor. By far, people just write ~~~~.

Dec 14 2016, 11:45 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor
Piramidion added a comment to T153255: Promote the signature button to the toolbar (or somewhere else more prominent) in VE/NWE.

How about upgrading the button's priority in the "insert" dialog for talk and Wikipedia namespaces, and downgrading or completely hiding it for all the other namespaces?

Dec 14 2016, 11:12 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor
Piramidion added a comment to T153255: Promote the signature button to the toolbar (or somewhere else more prominent) in VE/NWE.

That said I appreciate it is a very useful tool on talk pages, although I wonder how often it is actually used...

Dec 14 2016, 10:28 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor
Piramidion created T153255: Promote the signature button to the toolbar (or somewhere else more prominent) in VE/NWE.
Dec 14 2016, 9:18 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor

Dec 1 2016

Piramidion added a comment to T109033: Add Ukrainian and Belarusian as fallback languages for Russian.

I advise you to close this ticket as declined. You shouldn't implement any language fallbacks without obtaining the relevant community's consent. And you shouldn't restore Russian fallback for Ukrainian wikis after it's been removed (T39314)

Dec 1 2016, 9:37 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Internationalization
Piramidion added a comment to T39314: Remove Russian fallback for Ukrainian language.

And one more question – what about Wikimedia Commons? Its license templates still fallback to Russian.

Dec 1 2016, 9:36 PM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4)), Language-Q2-2016-17 Sprint 4, Language-Engineering October-December 2016, Community-Relations-Support, MediaWiki-Internationalization
Piramidion added a comment to T151660: Reorder aliases in the search suggestions on ukwiki so that Ukrainian aliases always come first.

OK, thanks!

Dec 1 2016, 6:51 PM · MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-12-06_(1.29.0-wmf.5)), MW-1.29-release-notes, Discovery-Search (Current work), Patch-For-Review, Discovery, CirrusSearch

Nov 30 2016

Piramidion added a comment to T151660: Reorder aliases in the search suggestions on ukwiki so that Ukrainian aliases always come first.

@EBernhardson This is the list of magic words in Russian to search for:

(#ПЕРЕНАПР|#перенапр|#перенаправление|__БЕЗ_ОГЛАВЛЕНИЯ__|__БЕЗ_ОГЛ__|__БЕЗ_ГАЛЕРЕИ__|__ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНОЕ_ОГЛАВЛЕНИЕ__|__ОБЯЗ_ОГЛ__|__ОГЛАВЛЕНИЕ__|__ОГЛ__|__БЕЗ_РЕДАКТИРОВАНИЯ_РАЗДЕЛА__|ТЕКУЩИЙ_МЕСЯЦ|ТЕКУЩИЙ_МЕСЯЦ_2|ТЕКУЩИЙ_МЕСЯЦ_1|НАЗВАНИЕ_ТЕКУЩЕГО_МЕСЯЦА|НАЗВАНИЕ_ТЕКУЩЕГО_МЕСЯЦА_РОД|НАЗВАНИЕ_ТЕКУЩЕГО_МЕСЯЦА_АБР|ТЕКУЩИЙ_ДЕНЬ|ТЕКУЩИЙ_ДЕНЬ_2|НАЗВАНИЕ_ТЕКУЩЕГО_ДНЯ|ТЕКУЩИЙ_ГОД|ТЕКУЩЕЕ_ВРЕМЯ|ТЕКУЩИЙ_ЧАС|МЕСТНЫЙ_МЕСЯЦ|МЕСТНЫЙ_МЕСЯЦ_2|МЕСТНЫЙ_МЕСЯЦ_1|НАЗВАНИЕ_МЕСТНОГО_МЕСЯЦА|НАЗВАНИЕ_МЕСТНОГО_МЕСЯЦА_РОД|НАЗВАНИЕ_МЕСТНОГО_МЕСЯЦА_АБР|МЕСТНЫЙ_ДЕНЬ|МЕСТНЫЙ_ДЕНЬ_2|НАЗВАНИЕ_МЕСТНОГО_ДНЯ|МЕСТНЫЙ_ГОД|МЕСТНОЕ_ВРЕМЯ|МЕСТНЫЙ_ЧАС|КОЛИЧЕСТВО_СТРАНИЦ|КОЛИЧЕСТВО_СТАТЕЙ|КОЛИЧЕСТВО_ФАЙЛОВ|КОЛИЧЕСТВО_УЧАСТНИКОВ|КОЛИЧЕСТВО_АКТИВНЫХ_УЧАСТНИКОВ|КОЛИЧЕСТВО_ПРАВОК|НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ|НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ_2|ПРОСТРАНСТВО_ИМЁН|ПРОСТРАНСТВО_ИМЁН_2|ПРОСТРАНСТВО_ОБСУЖДЕНИЙ|ПРОСТРАНСТВО_ОБСУЖДЕНИЙ_2|ПРОСТРАНСТВО_СТАТЕЙ|ПРОСТРАНСТВО_СТАТЕЙ_2|ПОЛНОЕ_НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ|ПОЛНОЕ_НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ_2|НАЗВАНИЕ_ПОДСТРАНИЦЫ|НАЗВАНИЕ_ПОДСТРАНИЦЫ_2|ОСНОВА_НАЗВАНИЯ_СТРАНИЦЫ|ОСНОВА_НАЗВАНИЯ_СТРАНИЦЫ_2|НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ_ОБСУЖДЕНИЯ|НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ_ОБСУЖДЕНИЯ_2|НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ_СТАТЬИ|НАЗВАНИЕ_СТРАНИЦЫ_СТАТЬИ_2|СООБЩЕНИЕ:|СООБЩ:|ПОДСТАНОВКА:|ПОДСТ:|ЗАЩПОДСТ:|СООБЩ_БЕЗ_ВИКИ:|мини|миниатюра|справа|слева|обрамить|сверхусправа|граница|основание|сверху|текст-сверху|посередине|снизу|текст-снизу|ссылка|НАЗВАНИЕ_САЙТА|ПИ:|ПИК:|ЛОКАЛЬНЫЙ_АДРЕС:|ЛОКАЛЬНЫЙ_АДРЕС_2:|ПУТЬ_К_СТАТЬЕ|ИДЕНТИФИКАТОР_СТРАНИЦЫ|НАЗВАНИЕ_СЕРВЕРА|ПУТЬ_К_СКРИПТУ|ПУТЬ_К_СТИЛЮ|ПАДЕЖ:|ПОЛ:|__БЕЗ_ПРЕОБРАЗОВАНИЯ_ЗАГОЛОВКА__|__БЕЗ_ПРЕОБРАЗОВАНИЯ_ТЕКСТА__|ТЕКУЩАЯ_НЕДЕЛЯ|ТЕКУЩИЙ_ДЕНЬ_НЕДЕЛИ|МЕСТНАЯ_НЕДЕЛЯ|МЕСТНЫЙ_ДЕНЬ_НЕДЕЛИ|ИД_ВЕРСИИ|ДЕНЬ_ВЕРСИИ|ДЕНЬ_ВЕРСИИ_2|МЕСЯЦ_ВЕРСИИ|МЕСЯЦ_ВЕРСИИ_1|ГОД_ВЕРСИИ|ОТМЕТКА_ВРЕМЕНИ_ВЕРСИИ|ВЕРСИЯ_УЧАСТНИКА|МНОЖЕСТВЕННОЕ_ЧИСЛО:|ПОЛНЫЙ_АДРЕС:|ПОЛНЫЙ_АДРЕС_2:|ПЕРВАЯ_БУКВА_МАЛЕНЬКАЯ:|ПЕРВАЯ_БУКВА_БОЛЬШАЯ:|МАЛЕНЬКИМИ_БУКВАМИ:|БОЛЬШИМИ_БУКВАМИ:|НЕОБРАБ:|ПОКАЗАТЬ_ЗАГОЛОВОК|__ССЫЛКА_НА_НОВЫЙ_РАЗДЕЛ__|__БЕЗ_ССЫЛКИ_НА_НОВЫЙ_РАЗДЕЛ__|ТЕКУЩАЯ_ВЕРСИЯ|ЗАКОДИРОВАННЫЙ_АДРЕС:|КОДИРОВАТЬ_МЕТКУ|ОТМЕТКА_ТЕКУЩЕГО_ВРЕМЕНИ|ОТМЕТКА_МЕСТНОГО_ВРЕМЕНИ|НАПРАВЛЕНИЕ_ПИСЬМА|#ЯЗЫК:|ЯЗЫК_СОДЕРЖАНИЯ|СТРАНИЦ_В_ПРОСТРАНСТВЕ_ИМЁН:|КОЛИЧЕСТВО_АДМИНИСТРАТОРОВ|ФОРМАТИРОВАТЬ_ЧИСЛО|ЗАПОЛНИТЬ_СЛЕВА|ЗАПОЛНИТЬ_СПРАВА|служебная|СОРТИРОВКА_ПО_УМОЛЧАНИЮ|КЛЮЧ_СОРТИРОВКИ|ПУТЬ_К_ФАЙЛУ:|метка|тэг|__СКРЫТАЯ_КАТЕГОРИЯ__|СТРАНИЦ_В_КАТЕГОРИИ|РАЗМЕР_СТРАНИЦЫ|__ИНДЕКС__|__БЕЗ_ИНДЕКСА__|ЧИСЛО_В_ГРУППЕ|__СТАТИЧЕСКОЕ_ПЕРЕНАПРАВЛЕНИЕ__|УРОВЕНЬ_ЗАЩИТЫ|форматдаты|ПУТЬ|ВИКИ|ЗАПРОС|страницы|подкатегории|файлы)
Nov 30 2016, 10:06 PM · MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-12-06_(1.29.0-wmf.5)), MW-1.29-release-notes, Discovery-Search (Current work), Patch-For-Review, Discovery, CirrusSearch
Piramidion added a comment to T39314: Remove Russian fallback for Ukrainian language.

@thiemowmde Thanks for the info. Hope you're right and it will go away soon.

Nov 30 2016, 9:20 PM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4)), Language-Q2-2016-17 Sprint 4, Language-Engineering October-December 2016, Community-Relations-Support, MediaWiki-Internationalization