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Mar 25 2024

Ponor added a comment to T360745: Some linktrails with diacritics/accents not recognized on hrwiki.

@Reedy, primarily Croatian (hrwiki) because a user complained to me that [[mišić]]ā isn't working (though [[mišić]]a is), but also English, as I mentioned above, because the two examples on the Help page do not look like they should (according to the descriptions there).

Mar 25 2024, 2:20 AM · MediaWiki-Internationalization

Mar 22 2024

Ponor added a comment to T357787: Inline thanks in recent changes doesn't work when live changes are enabled or 'view new changes' is clicked.

@Samwalton9-WMF: I checked again with my other account and on enwiki, hrwiki, and testwiki — clicking on (thank) at Special:RecentChanges did work inline until I pressed the button [(oo-ui-image-progressive) View new changes since 00:00, 22 March 2024].
Live updates will kill it as well.

Mar 22 2024, 5:54 AM · Growth-Team, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Thanks
Ponor updated the task description for T360745: Some linktrails with diacritics/accents not recognized on hrwiki.
Mar 22 2024, 5:20 AM · MediaWiki-Internationalization
Ponor created T360745: Some linktrails with diacritics/accents not recognized on hrwiki.
Mar 22 2024, 5:00 AM · MediaWiki-Internationalization

Feb 21 2024

Ponor added a comment to T52372: Updated TemplateData from transcluded items take a long time to show up.

How about...
Either
A) add a shortcut somewhere in MW software to do a null template edit whenever its /doc page is saved (not everything has to be perfect)
or
B) add a note next to "This template is missing TemplateData, and its parameters have been autogenerated" so people know what's happening.

Feb 21 2024, 10:09 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor, TemplateData
Ponor added a project to T358145: VE not finding TemplateData for local-only templates: VisualEditor.
Feb 21 2024, 8:04 PM · VisualEditor, TemplateData
Ponor created T358145: VE not finding TemplateData for local-only templates.
Feb 21 2024, 7:56 PM · VisualEditor, TemplateData

Feb 16 2024

Ponor created T357787: Inline thanks in recent changes doesn't work when live changes are enabled or 'view new changes' is clicked.
Feb 16 2024, 3:38 PM · Growth-Team, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Thanks

Dec 17 2023

Ponor added a comment to T347783: HR translation of 'N articles' at www.wikipedia.org.

I short-circuited the translation, which is now only valid for 000's. If that's what this number will ever be, then we're fine. If the translation will show up somewhere for other numbers, it'd be good to have PLURAL working, because:
100000 članaka
100201 članak
100202 članka

Dec 17 2023, 6:59 PM · I18n, Plural-Support, Wikimedia-Portals

Dec 3 2023

Ponor added a comment to T348797: Translation stopped saving while translating an article.

@Osps7 Unfortunately, this might be impossible for any users to debug. A developer should start translating a (long) article, leave it open over a day or two, monitor what's happening from both browser and server side. Close the browser, re-open the translation, remove wikilinks, edit the wording, etc.
For me, the tool was reporting it was saving the changes for over an hour. Two days later they were gone. I don't really know how to trigger this behavior, and trying to figure it out while doing anything useful might be a huge waste of time (as it was several times by now). The browser console is full of errors, of course, but it's hard to tell which ones were relevant over the course of a few days.

Dec 3 2023, 4:33 PM · Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.7; 2023-11-28), ContentTranslation
Ponor added a comment to T348797: Translation stopped saving while translating an article.

A while ago I reported (T346653) that translations are not being saved once the source page had changed, but there were notifications of something strange happening.
Now I'm observing the problem of this ticket while translating en:Photosynthesis, which has not been changed in the last 10 days.

Dec 3 2023, 3:53 PM · Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.7; 2023-11-28), ContentTranslation

Nov 30 2023

Ponor added a comment to T350270: Mobile Reply: enter+backspace strange behavior.

@Esanders , I still see it on both hr.m.wiki and test.m.wiki.

Nov 30 2023, 6:52 PM · Editing-team, VisualEditor-ContentEditable, VisualEditor, DiscussionTools

Nov 9 2023

Ponor updated the task description for T350912: VE adding empty link param to galleries, images unclickable.
Nov 9 2023, 7:20 PM · Verified, MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.9; 2023-12-12), Editing-team (Kanban Board), Parsoid, Regression, VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Gallery
Ponor created T350912: VE adding empty link param to galleries, images unclickable.
Nov 9 2023, 7:18 PM · Verified, MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.9; 2023-12-12), Editing-team (Kanban Board), Parsoid, Regression, VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Gallery

Nov 6 2023

Ponor added a comment to T327566: Mobile Page history HTML differ, making scripting hard.

Now it's not only mobile vs. desktop, but mobile itself changes its state considerably depending on the screen size. Things, unsurprisingly, are broken: T350438

Nov 6 2023, 5:42 PM · MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages)

Nov 3 2023

Ponor added a comment to T350438: Recent changes userlink out of order on narrow mobile screens.

This probably has to do with the diff tables becoming 'responsive'. The switch happens at the at the same time as I make the window narrower (see screenshots). Both scripts inject the diff tables into DOM, though not before they're told to and the problem is there before they do.

Nov 3 2023, 5:16 AM · Growth-Team, MobileFrontend, MediaWiki-Recent-changes

Nov 2 2023

Ponor added a comment to T350438: Recent changes userlink out of order on narrow mobile screens.

Narrow: the gray icons appear and the elements are all over the place

narrow.png (759×1 px, 106 KB)

Nov 2 2023, 10:15 PM · Growth-Team, MobileFrontend, MediaWiki-Recent-changes
Ponor created T350438: Recent changes userlink out of order on narrow mobile screens.
Nov 2 2023, 10:06 PM · Growth-Team, MobileFrontend, MediaWiki-Recent-changes

Nov 1 2023

Ponor updated the task description for T350270: Mobile Reply: enter+backspace strange behavior.
Nov 1 2023, 4:33 PM · Editing-team, VisualEditor-ContentEditable, VisualEditor, DiscussionTools
Ponor created T350270: Mobile Reply: enter+backspace strange behavior.
Nov 1 2023, 3:04 PM · Editing-team, VisualEditor-ContentEditable, VisualEditor, DiscussionTools

Oct 26 2023

Ponor removed a watcher for Wikimedia-Portals: Ponor.
Oct 26 2023, 8:33 PM

Oct 24 2023

Ponor added a comment to T348869: How many edits would Automoderator revert per day at different caution levels?.

Huh - I'm surprised to see de.wiki with such low numbers here. I wonder why that is. FlaggedRevs maybe?

Oct 24 2023, 12:28 PM · Moderator-Tools-Team (Kanban), Product-Analytics (Kanban), Automoderator

Oct 23 2023

Ponor added a comment to T329531: Reduce the proliferation of language and translation links (Vector).

Currently, Vector 2022 re-uses MediaWiki:Wikibase-editlinkstitle and MediaWiki:Wikibase-addlinkstitle from other shell(s), which are tooltip messages and can be quite long in languages other than English. In drop down menus these are then wrapped, which looks and feels bad.
I made them short(er) for my language, but a user complained.

Oct 23 2023, 2:44 PM · Web-Team-Backlog, Language-Team, UniversalLanguageSelector, Desktop Improvements (Vector 2022)

Sep 30 2023

Ponor added a comment to T347783: HR translation of 'N articles' at www.wikipedia.org.

@Peachey88 So that could be this message (Wikimedia:Portals-wiki.entries). I could change it to genitive plural (članaka), since the numbers we're showing are round thousands (000), then hope it's not being used anywhere else.

Sep 30 2023, 4:39 PM · I18n, Plural-Support, Wikimedia-Portals
Ponor created T347783: HR translation of 'N articles' at www.wikipedia.org.
Sep 30 2023, 1:26 AM · I18n, Plural-Support, Wikimedia-Portals
Ponor added a watcher for Wikimedia-Portals: Ponor.
Sep 30 2023, 1:18 AM

Sep 21 2023

Ponor added a comment to T347066: Creating new pages in Module namespace fails with useve=false.

@Umherirrender: Thanks. All clear, but it took me some time to realize that useve=false does nothing. When you read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox, you're under the impression that the opposite of useve=true is useve=false. So maybe only that page needs to be updated - somehow.

Sep 21 2023, 7:21 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-InputBox
Ponor created T347066: Creating new pages in Module namespace fails with useve=false.
Sep 21 2023, 2:43 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-InputBox

Sep 18 2023

Ponor created T346653: Translations not saved when source page changed.
Sep 18 2023, 3:35 PM · ContentTranslation

Sep 12 2023

Ponor added a comment to T345632: AbuseFilter "global_user_editcount" field can't be used during (auto)createaccount action (Introduce global_account_editcount).

@matmarex, when you're autocreating you're coming in already logged in from another wiki, so there's already a global account with global_user_editcount well defined on other wikis.
When you're creating, all I want is global_user_editcount be 0 instead of undefined.

Sep 12 2023, 12:12 AM · User-notice-archive, MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.28; 2023-09-26), MediaWiki-Platform-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth, AbuseFilter

Sep 7 2023

Ponor added a comment to T345632: AbuseFilter "global_user_editcount" field can't be used during (auto)createaccount action (Introduce global_account_editcount).

When "createaccount" in action is true the variable global_user_editcount seems to be null

I think you mean it isn't set at all.

Sep 7 2023, 1:05 PM · User-notice-archive, MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.28; 2023-09-26), MediaWiki-Platform-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth, AbuseFilter

Sep 5 2023

Ponor updated the task description for T345632: AbuseFilter "global_user_editcount" field can't be used during (auto)createaccount action (Introduce global_account_editcount).
Sep 5 2023, 1:47 PM · User-notice-archive, MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.28; 2023-09-26), MediaWiki-Platform-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth, AbuseFilter
Ponor created T345632: AbuseFilter "global_user_editcount" field can't be used during (auto)createaccount action (Introduce global_account_editcount).
Sep 5 2023, 1:36 PM · User-notice-archive, MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.28; 2023-09-26), MediaWiki-Platform-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth, AbuseFilter

Aug 30 2023

Ponor added a comment to T310622: [bug] after some time notebooks cannot be saved.

@rook I haven't observed it since the latest upgrade to 4.0
(reporting that EVERYTHING is finally working fine!)

Aug 30 2023, 2:42 PM · PAWS

Aug 3 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

Good news, @rook. Nothing in the last 60 minutes of heavy testing seemed suspicious: my notebooks are loading, running reasonably fast, no resets, no JS error messages in the console. It lets me save the notebooks (save button is not disabled this time). FF is showing low energy impact of the paws window in about:performance. Only switching between jupyter notebook tabs takes a little too long, 1 to 2 seconds, but that's pretty much all that's different from my local jupyterLAB.
Previously, it wouldn't take me more than 1-2 minutes to see all the glitches. I hope this solves the problem; will let you know if anything pops up.
Many, many thanks!

Aug 3 2023, 1:53 PM · PAWS

Jul 25 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook Yes, my local minikube behaves pretty much the same as those at test-hub-paws and hub-paws-dev (with the notebooks that I know would trigger the problem).

Jul 25 2023, 4:13 PM · PAWS
Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook I followed your recipe and was able to test everything off of T338981. (Un)surprisingly, all the symptoms are still there: the notebooks that I used at PAWS are slow in FF, Chrome and Chromium, the javascript errors are still there, and the view is resetting itself. Those same notebooks work fine in my regular local installation of jupyter-lab.
If you think of some other tests I can try, I'll be happy to help (though I can't say I know what exactly I'm doing, and will probably not have time to learn more about it). I wonder if the guys who reported the saving issue in T310622 would see this slowness with their "problematic" notebooks as well.

Jul 25 2023, 3:54 PM · PAWS

Jul 18 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook: apologies, I've been mostly away from my laptop for over a week. Just got an email update from this T. I can do some testing, but it won't be before Friday night.
I haven't read the instructions yet. Before I do, please let me know if today's closure will affect my ability to test. Sorry again, and thank you.

Jul 18 2023, 7:40 PM · PAWS

Jul 11 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook No, it wasn't an extension: I've had all extensions disabled for a day, and right now the "thing" at test-hub-paws.wmcloud.org is pretty much unusable (even worse: unpredictably unusable): extremely slow, the view is resetting itself again today, and second after second the console is throwing (now that's new!) messages like

Jul 11 2023, 9:42 PM · PAWS

Jul 10 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook I do have a few extensions in FF, and none in Chrome since I rarely use it. All recent test were done in private/incognito windows, which is supposed to reduce the number of running extensions. I will disable all FF extensions and see if that helps.

Jul 10 2023, 2:58 PM · PAWS

Jul 8 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

Nah :(
I checked twice in Chrome and once in Firefox, shift-entering only when the previous run was complete. Surprisingly, it didn't take more than 10 cells for the reset-to-top to happen. I wouldn't say that the overall slowness is my problem (though I notice it from time to time, especially - as you say - in the first few minutes). Right now it's the cell freeze, followed by the focus reset to the topmost cell. Also, just a few hours ago my forVRookCOPY.ipynb was working fine, now I cannot even open it. No changes were made except for the cell runs, and the notebook was automatically saved.

Jul 8 2023, 1:45 AM · PAWS

Jul 7 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook At some point someone mentioned this ever growing file .jupyter_ystore.db and NFS. I was just reading https://jupyterhub.readthedocs.io/en/stable/explanation/database.html, where they specifically say "The SQLite database should not be used on NFS. SQLite uses reader/writer locks to control access to the database. This locking mechanism might not work correctly if the database file is kept on an NFS filesystem. This is because fcntl() file locking is broken on many NFS implementations. Therefore, you should avoid putting SQLite database files on NFS since it will not handle well multiple processes which might try to access the file at the same time."

Jul 7 2023, 2:19 PM · PAWS

Jul 6 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

Did everything from Chrome/Linux now. Before I copied any files: I only thought the server took too long to respawn... some 2 minutes. Firefox complains about a script being too slow before I click on any files, Chrome does not.

Jul 6 2023, 9:27 PM · PAWS
Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook Hm... sorry, I do not remember logging in before. I did check if there was https://public-paws.wmcloud.org/User:Ponorić/ - there wasn't.
Sure, let's clear it out and I'll try again.

Jul 6 2023, 8:24 PM · PAWS
Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook no problem at all!
I logged in with my secondary account. No change. Slow server start, slow file load with browser complaints about a script. Resets with TypeError: e is undefined.
Noticed at least 20 error messages in the browser console as the server was respawning of the following kind:

Jul 6 2023, 7:45 PM · PAWS

Jul 5 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

There were signs of it being weird even before I !pip installed anything (that slowness). It's the same JS problem as before.

Jul 5 2023, 7:05 PM · PAWS
Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook : no change I'm afraid. Some files were not loading, and the one that did load was kind of slow (slowing down my whole browser).

Jul 5 2023, 6:57 PM · PAWS
Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook: after a quick test I can confirm these old traits:

  • the browser complaining about a script slowing it down on the load of the "problematic" notebook (works fine in v. 3.4.8),
  • the view resetting itself to top of the notebook upon running some 30 cells in sequence (browser console showing: TypeError: e is undefined; TypeError: undefined has no properties, and similar - for index.es6.js:257:16),
  • jupyterlab failing to load that same notebook (appears blank)
Jul 5 2023, 6:10 PM · PAWS

Jun 30 2023

Ponor added a comment to T27619: Add more characters to ccnorm.

Any idea what's happening with the latest patch, why is it not in the wikis? ccnorm("ČĆŽŠčćžš") is semiworking.

Jun 30 2023, 2:13 PM · Equivset, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21)), MW-1.27-release (WMF-deploy-2016-01-19_(1.27.0-wmf.11)), AntiSpoof

Jun 27 2023

Ponor added a watcher for Tool-refill: Ponor.
Jun 27 2023, 5:17 AM

Jun 20 2023

Ponor created T339919: Old saved draft invisible, loading, disables other replies.
Jun 20 2023, 1:19 PM · DiscussionTools

Jun 14 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338981: [Rollback] paws to jupyterlab 4.0.

@rook I used it for an hour or two yesterday, and this morning it's still running fine. I think this was the most reasonable decision. I don't think I miss anything from the newer versions, and tbh I don't remember seeing anything *that* new in them. Would it be possible to install and run 4.x from a different URL in the future? I'd be happy to help testing, just LMK.
Many thanks!

Jun 14 2023, 12:00 PM · PAWS

Jun 12 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338337: jupyterlab 4.0.1.

@rook, first of all: THANK YOU very much for taking care of this.
It looks promising — I was able to load the files the old version was getting stuck with, the interface appears to be running much faster, and in my quick test the notebook view does not seem to be resetting itself (as I reported on IRC). It will take a few days for me to see if the old saving bug (T310622) is gone; I'll keep you posted about that.

Jun 12 2023, 3:56 PM · PAWS

Jun 9 2023

Ponor added a comment to T338482: VE expanding word-ending links.

Thanks, @cscott. This is actually quite easy to reproduce: add a character anywhere within https://hr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antika&uselang=en&veaction=edit and before saving just "Review your changes".

Jun 9 2023, 2:48 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), Parsoid, VisualEditor

Jun 8 2023

Ponor updated the task description for T338482: VE expanding word-ending links.
Jun 8 2023, 5:10 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), Parsoid, VisualEditor
Ponor created T338482: VE expanding word-ending links.
Jun 8 2023, 4:47 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), Parsoid, VisualEditor

Apr 28 2023

Ponor awarded T333665: NWE template preview in Vector 2022 is broken a The World Burns token.
Apr 28 2023, 6:36 PM · Regression, MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateSandbox, VisualEditor, Desktop Improvements (Vector 2022), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
Ponor added a comment to T333665: NWE template preview in Vector 2022 is broken.

Editing Template:Infobox film on test.wiki and "Previewing page What We Do in the Shadows with this template". Got this:

image.png (1×2 px, 228 KB)

Apr 28 2023, 6:36 PM · Regression, MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateSandbox, VisualEditor, Desktop Improvements (Vector 2022), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor

Apr 20 2023

Ponor created T335154: API returns fixWikicode instead of fixWikipage.
Apr 20 2023, 4:51 PM · Tool-refill
Ponor created T335141: Refill tool stuck "waiting for an available worker".
Apr 20 2023, 3:00 PM · Tool-refill

Apr 12 2023

Ponor added a comment to T255226: Deleted file revision appears in the patrol queue.

Here to report the same problem, but for unpatrolled files with a single revision. If left unpatrolled, then deleted, the file still shows in recent changes as unpatrolled, and API returns it in the list of unpatrolled changes. All delete actions (files, pages) should mark all unpatrolled changes as patrolled; what's the point of having to patrol something that no longer exists?

Apr 12 2023, 1:30 PM · MediaWiki-Patrolling

Jan 23 2023

Ponor added a comment to T327566: Mobile Page history HTML differ, making scripting hard.

@Jdlrobson: yes, that helps, though I'd expect this to work out of the box. Thanks!

Jan 23 2023, 7:06 PM · MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages)

Jan 21 2023

Ponor created T327566: Mobile Page history HTML differ, making scripting hard.
Jan 21 2023, 12:29 AM · MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend Special Pages)

Jan 9 2023

Ponor added a comment to T326399: (other edits) links repetitive and long.

@Jdlrobson, please have mercy on patrollers, remove all this clutter and add nothing more. Imagine someone added those "pills" or any repetitive content after EVERY line of the code you write.

Jan 9 2023, 6:38 PM · MW-1.40-notes (1.40.0-wmf.18; 2023-01-09), MediaWiki-Change-tagging

Jan 7 2023

Ponor updated the task description for T326399: (other edits) links repetitive and long.
Jan 7 2023, 9:32 PM · MW-1.40-notes (1.40.0-wmf.18; 2023-01-09), MediaWiki-Change-tagging
Ponor added a comment to T326399: (other edits) links repetitive and long.

I feel like we're doing things here just because we can: adding more complexity where there are already decent solutons. Somewhere near the top of your screenshot, @matmarex, there's "Filter revisions" drop-down menu that does all this and more, without adding same, rarely used links to hundreds of listed changes.
As for the wishlist, I believe there are more people who oppose this change than there were supporters of it here.
This could be a javascript gadget for those few who really need it (right?), not something imposed on everyone by mw core.

Jan 7 2023, 9:03 PM · MW-1.40-notes (1.40.0-wmf.18; 2023-01-09), MediaWiki-Change-tagging

Jan 6 2023

Ponor added a comment to T326399: (other edits) links repetitive and long.

Easier solution would be to just revert the change in T301063: The "tag name" on the change line should link directly to "tagged changes" entirely.

Jan 6 2023, 11:47 AM · MW-1.40-notes (1.40.0-wmf.18; 2023-01-09), MediaWiki-Change-tagging
Ponor added a comment to T301063: The "tag name" on the change line should link directly to "tagged changes".

With this change tags got very long, and the repetition of "(other edits)" all over Recent Changes is too distracting. In other languages "(other edits)" can get even longer.
On mobile devices each tag has a frame, and many tags with this addition use a full line (see German example in T326399). It's not uncommon to see 3, 4, even 5 tags on some changes, and more screen space used by the tags than the change itself. All this clutter so that (very) few users could (sometimes) filter by a tag, a feature already available in the filter by tag menu???

Jan 6 2023, 11:39 AM · Community-Wishlist-Survey-2022, MediaWiki-Change-tagging
Ponor created T326399: (other edits) links repetitive and long.
Jan 6 2023, 9:09 AM · MW-1.40-notes (1.40.0-wmf.18; 2023-01-09), MediaWiki-Change-tagging

Dec 7 2022

Ponor renamed T324569: Kartographer should support degree-minute-second coordinates from Kartographer or "coord" template should support degree-minute-second coordinates to Kartographer should support degree-minute-second coordinates.
Dec 7 2022, 5:09 PM · Maps

Dec 6 2022

Ponor created T324569: Kartographer should support degree-minute-second coordinates.
Dec 6 2022, 2:38 PM · Maps

Oct 10 2022

Ponor added a comment to T320412: contains_any runs slow.

Thanks @Daimona. The execution times are what I typically see in filter statistics, though the numbers vary. All filters that I'm managing run in under 0.5 ms, but the one with a list of 30-something words is always above 2 ms, and on some days up to 5 ms. A filter with about 15 rlike invocations (short patterns - historical reasons) on a ccnorm'ed string runs in under 0.5 ms. A similar filter with a ccnorm_contains_any shows an average of nearly 3 ms today. Btw, is ccnorm_contains_any() just contains_any( ccnorm() )?
I don't know if this is much of a problem IRL. I see people trying to optimize their filters (make them 'green'?), so I though this might be something worth investigating further.

Oct 10 2022, 2:42 PM · AbuseFilter
Ponor created T320412: contains_any runs slow.
Oct 10 2022, 12:56 PM · AbuseFilter

Aug 4 2022

Ponor added a comment to T181024: AbuseFilter should not cast arrays into strings.

I see the code page_namespace in "^(0|11|20)$" more often than I'd want to (probably because of the note here). This is wrong: in does not test regex patterns, only literal strings. The proper way to check namespaces is equals_to_any(page_namespace, 0, 11, 20).

Aug 4 2022, 4:01 PM · Patch-Needs-Improvement, AbuseFilter

Jun 14 2022

Ponor added a comment to T310622: [bug] after some time notebooks cannot be saved.

@rook My session had some 4-5 tabs open and only the one that was running the code (few hours or so) stopped saving the changes. I really don't know how it all works, but it's different from my experience some months ago. Back then even if there was a disconnect, my notebooks would respawn, and the kernel would keep all variables alive. Now nothing really tells me my session got disconnected, I mean, all notebooks execute the code, even the one that cannot be saved.
I'll try to find a way to reproduce this in a minimal notebook; will keep you posted.

Jun 14 2022, 3:16 PM · PAWS
Ponor added a comment to T310622: [bug] after some time notebooks cannot be saved.

@rook No, restarting the server does not help. Only when I close the tab and reopen the notebook I'm able to save it again, but by closing the tab I also lose all the changes (Save does nothing, I can only close it by Discard-ing).

Jun 14 2022, 2:41 PM · PAWS
Ponor created T310622: [bug] after some time notebooks cannot be saved.
Jun 14 2022, 2:32 PM · PAWS

May 3 2022

Ponor added a comment to T288516: hrwiki - Wrong date format on single page analysis.

@Harej, there are two cases:

May 3 2022, 5:31 PM · Croatian-Sites, InternetArchiveBot

Apr 9 2022

Ponor created T305781: ĆČŽ missing, ćčž present.
Apr 9 2022, 2:06 PM · Equivset

Feb 28 2022

Ponor added a comment to T218503: CX2: Different references with the same name.

We've had many cases of this happening on Croatian Wikipedia, and I've tested it myself: you let CX2 do all translations, do some edits to the text so it would let you save it. Repeated references are all bad, example of me fixing it is https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/6327071/6327095. If a reference is defined on its first ocurence as

<ref name=":1">{{Citiranje weba ...}}</ref>

all other mentions will be added as

Feb 28 2022, 12:10 PM · ContentTranslation

Nov 16 2021

Ponor added a watcher for Croatian-Sites: Ponor.
Nov 16 2021, 2:13 PM
Ponor added a member for Croatian-Sites: Ponor.
Nov 16 2021, 2:13 PM

Oct 20 2021

Ponor added a comment to T225181: Add mark as patrolled option to the menu.

Given how many clicks it takes to mark a change patrolled, I'm surprised that there's no option for patrollers to quickly view a diff in recent changes and (at least) mark it as good without going to other pages (and back). So much time of our most experienced users is wasted for patrolling, having this in Navigation Popups, if not in the wm software itself, should be high on priorities list.

Oct 20 2021, 12:00 AM · Navigation-Popups-Gadget

Sep 28 2021

Ponor added a comment to T291751: Create #Croatian-Sites tag.

Why should we add ~300 project tags to most tasks (when an issue happens on ALL languages)

Sep 28 2021, 3:14 PM · Croatian-Sites, Project-Admins

Sep 27 2021

Ponor added a comment to T291751: Create #Croatian-Sites tag.

My support for this, it would be much easier to track hr.wiki related tasks. I'm surprised there's no such tag for all wm sites by default.

Sep 27 2021, 12:37 PM · Croatian-Sites, Project-Admins

Aug 23 2021

Ponor created T289504: archive-url, access-date, archive-date added even though archiveurl, accessdate, archivedate are already present.
Aug 23 2021, 3:38 PM · Croatian-Sites, InternetArchiveBot

Apr 25 2021

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

@JoKalliauer Your timing results for Inkscape were a big surprise for me, and I ran all your tests in inkscape --shell on my little laptop.

Apr 25 2021, 3:20 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering

Apr 11 2021

Ponor updated the task description for T279843: Two growth experiements homepage mentorship question i18n messages missing GENDER support.
Apr 11 2021, 9:42 PM · Growth-Team-Filtering, Gender-Support, Growth-Team, GrowthExperiments, I18n

Apr 10 2021

Ponor created T279843: Two growth experiements homepage mentorship question i18n messages missing GENDER support.
Apr 10 2021, 11:07 PM · Growth-Team-Filtering, Gender-Support, Growth-Team, GrowthExperiments, I18n

Apr 1 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

The following two special pages have weird translations: it's possibly some Slavic language, but definitely not Croatian. Can someone please change to the names in bold:
Special:Impact -> Posebno:Djejstvo -> Posebno:Učinak_uređivanja
Special:ClaimMentee -> Posebno:Tvrde_pridošlica -> Posebno:Preuzimanje_mentorstva

Apr 1 2021, 2:10 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Sprint 0 (Growth Team))

Mar 24 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

@Urbanecm_WMF It's already Wednesday and the train should be arriving tomorrow, but can you make sure translations later than Sunday are on it as well... I mean, mixed en/hr messages should not be too bad, but if this is a two-click operation for you, it'd be great to have the full interface translated. Thanks!

Mar 24 2021, 12:41 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Sprint 0 (Growth Team))

Mar 23 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

Few questions:

  1. The help panel button (the blue bottom-right-corner round button) does not show up when reading a regular random page, but does when it's being edited, either in VE or CE. It does show up when reading random pages in other namespaces, such as Wikipedia, User, Help... and also when arriving on a regular page from "Suggested edits". Is this intentional? Why is the button not there when one's on a random article page?
Mar 23 2021, 4:51 AM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Sprint 0 (Growth Team))

Mar 22 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

@Trizek-WMF Strange, because everything on my Homepage tab is still mostly in English. We're at 88% translated, 14% reviewed.

Mar 22 2021, 7:00 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Sprint 0 (Growth Team))
Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

Let's see how all this goes. We're hoping for more new users (who are not shy to ask for help). Zblace is advocating through [[:hr:Wikipedija:GLAM]], that seems like a good way to go. And the whole atmosphere on hr.wiki has definitely improved
.
I'm almost done with the translations, but need to find someone to review them. You know how that works: small wiki = few to zero volunteers. Would it be possible to mark all the translations as reviewed so I can see them in the interface and fix what's wrong myself?

Mar 22 2021, 6:26 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Sprint 0 (Growth Team))

Jan 21 2021

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

We think this could be a good idea, but would prefer if someone could organize what happens if/when images break. Without someone performing that product manager role, we think this switch would not be very successful. Does someone here want to take on that kind of work? Broken renderings must be identified, and if the renderer is at fault bug reports filed. If the file was at fault, the file must be fixed -- or at least organized into a list that the community can work from. We could provide a tool for testing individual images, but need people to run through them identifying what's actually wrong (if anything) when a file renders differently.

Jan 21 2021, 5:43 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering

Nov 20 2020

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

The problem isn't as much the amount of SVGs we get per day, than the fact that we render thumbnails on demand when they're for a file/size combination never requested before.

Nov 20 2020, 9:02 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering
Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

@Ponor: If I don't misunderstand then the argumentation seems mostly about stuff created with Inkscape. What about stuff not created with Inkscape?

Nov 20 2020, 8:40 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering
Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

According to Grafana, eqiad and codfw each get an average of 0.8 queries for new SVGs per second, with spikes up to 4 qps. More than 75% of those requests are handled using 575ms of CPU time on average. For context, there are 8.4 requests per second to eqiad and codfw for filetypes handled by imagemagick, including SVGs, which use 2-4s of CPU time.

Nov 20 2020, 8:09 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering
Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

@Ponor is imho talking about converting Inkscape-SVG to PNG by Inkscape and Batik-SVG to PNG by Batik, and Adobe-SVG to PNG by Adobe Illustrator, ....

Not exactly, I was thinking that 'inkscape --shell' should do Inkscape-SVG conversions. In my random sample on commons 24/30 files were made with Inkscape. Other producers could use either 'inkscape --shell' or whatever is used now.
For, you see, Inkscape will always be the best converter for whatever Inkscape can produce. I hope we can agree on that.

Nov 20 2020, 7:15 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering

Nov 18 2020

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

Wouldn't it be best to use the tool that created a SVG for conversion to PNG as well, for one would get on commons exactly what they would get at home? No library can beat that, I am afraid.

Nov 18 2020, 9:05 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering