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Oct 10 2022

Ponor added a comment to T320412: contains_any runs slow.

Thanks @Daimona. The execution times are what I typically see in filter statistics, though the numbers vary. All filters that I'm managing run in under 0.5 ms, but the one with a list of 30-something words is always above 2 ms, and on some days up to 5 ms. A filter with about 15 rlike invocations (short patterns - historical reasons) on a ccnorm'ed string runs in under 0.5 ms. A similar filter with a ccnorm_contains_any shows an average of nearly 3 ms today. Btw, is ccnorm_contains_any() just contains_any( ccnorm() )?
I don't know if this is much of a problem IRL. I see people trying to optimize their filters (make them 'green'?), so I though this might be something worth investigating further.

Oct 10 2022, 2:42 PM · AbuseFilter
Ponor created T320412: contains_any runs slow.
Oct 10 2022, 12:56 PM · AbuseFilter

Aug 4 2022

Ponor added a comment to T181024: AbuseFilter should not cast arrays into strings.

I see the code page_namespace in "^(0|11|20)$" more often than I'd want to (probably because of the note here). This is wrong: in does not test regex patterns, only literal strings. The proper way to check namespaces is equals_to_any(page_namespace, 0, 11, 20).

Aug 4 2022, 4:01 PM · Patch-Needs-Improvement, AbuseFilter

Jun 14 2022

Ponor added a comment to T310622: [bug] after some time notebooks cannot be saved.

@rook My session had some 4-5 tabs open and only the one that was running the code (few hours or so) stopped saving the changes. I really don't know how it all works, but it's different from my experience some months ago. Back then even if there was a disconnect, my notebooks would respawn, and the kernel would keep all variables alive. Now nothing really tells me my session got disconnected, I mean, all notebooks execute the code, even the one that cannot be saved.
I'll try to find a way to reproduce this in a minimal notebook; will keep you posted.

Jun 14 2022, 3:16 PM · PAWS
Ponor added a comment to T310622: [bug] after some time notebooks cannot be saved.

@rook No, restarting the server does not help. Only when I close the tab and reopen the notebook I'm able to save it again, but by closing the tab I also lose all the changes (Save does nothing, I can only close it by Discard-ing).

Jun 14 2022, 2:41 PM · PAWS
Ponor created T310622: [bug] after some time notebooks cannot be saved.
Jun 14 2022, 2:32 PM · PAWS

May 3 2022

Ponor added a comment to T288516: hrwiki - Wrong date format on single page analysis.

@Harej, there are two cases:

May 3 2022, 5:31 PM · Croatian-Sites, InternetArchiveBot

Apr 9 2022

Ponor created T305781: ĆČŽ missing, ćčž present.
Apr 9 2022, 2:06 PM · Patch-For-Review, Equivset

Feb 28 2022

Ponor added a comment to T218503: CX2: Different references with the same name.

We've had many cases of this happening on Croatian Wikipedia, and I've tested it myself: you let CX2 do all translations, do some edits to the text so it would let you save it. Repeated references are all bad, example of me fixing it is https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/6327071/6327095. If a reference is defined on its first ocurence as

<ref name=":1">{{Citiranje weba ...}}</ref>

all other mentions will be added as

Feb 28 2022, 12:10 PM · ContentTranslation

Nov 16 2021

Ponor added a watcher for Croatian-Sites: Ponor.
Nov 16 2021, 2:13 PM
Ponor added a member for Croatian-Sites: Ponor.
Nov 16 2021, 2:13 PM

Oct 20 2021

Ponor added a comment to T225181: Add mark as patrolled option to the menu.

Given how many clicks it takes to mark a change patrolled, I'm surprised that there's no option for patrollers to quickly view a diff in recent changes and (at least) mark it as good without going to other pages (and back). So much time of our most experienced users is wasted for patrolling, having this in Navigation Popups, if not in the wm software itself, should be high on priorities list.

Oct 20 2021, 12:00 AM · Navigation-Popups-Gadget

Sep 28 2021

Ponor added a comment to T291751: Create #Croatian-Sites tag.

Why should we add ~300 project tags to most tasks (when an issue happens on ALL languages)

Sep 28 2021, 3:14 PM · Croatian-Sites, Project-Admins

Sep 27 2021

Ponor added a comment to T291751: Create #Croatian-Sites tag.

My support for this, it would be much easier to track hr.wiki related tasks. I'm surprised there's no such tag for all wm sites by default.

Sep 27 2021, 12:37 PM · Croatian-Sites, Project-Admins

Aug 23 2021

Ponor created T289504: archive-url, access-date, archive-date added even though archiveurl, accessdate, archivedate are already present.
Aug 23 2021, 3:38 PM · Croatian-Sites, InternetArchiveBot

Apr 25 2021

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

@JoKalliauer Your timing results for Inkscape were a big surprise for me, and I ran all your tests in inkscape --shell on my little laptop.

Apr 25 2021, 3:20 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering

Apr 11 2021

Ponor updated the task description for T279843: Two growth experiements homepage mentorship question i18n messages missing GENDER support.
Apr 11 2021, 9:42 PM · Growth-Team-Filtering, Gender-Support, Growth-Team, GrowthExperiments, I18n

Apr 10 2021

Ponor created T279843: Two growth experiements homepage mentorship question i18n messages missing GENDER support.
Apr 10 2021, 11:07 PM · Growth-Team-Filtering, Gender-Support, Growth-Team, GrowthExperiments, I18n

Apr 1 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

The following two special pages have weird translations: it's possibly some Slavic language, but definitely not Croatian. Can someone please change to the names in bold:
Special:Impact -> Posebno:Djejstvo -> Posebno:Učinak_uređivanja
Special:ClaimMentee -> Posebno:Tvrde_pridošlica -> Posebno:Preuzimanje_mentorstva

Apr 1 2021, 2:10 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Current Sprint)

Mar 24 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

@Urbanecm_WMF It's already Wednesday and the train should be arriving tomorrow, but can you make sure translations later than Sunday are on it as well... I mean, mixed en/hr messages should not be too bad, but if this is a two-click operation for you, it'd be great to have the full interface translated. Thanks!

Mar 24 2021, 12:41 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Current Sprint)

Mar 23 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

Few questions:

  1. The help panel button (the blue bottom-right-corner round button) does not show up when reading a regular random page, but does when it's being edited, either in VE or CE. It does show up when reading random pages in other namespaces, such as Wikipedia, User, Help... and also when arriving on a regular page from "Suggested edits". Is this intentional? Why is the button not there when one's on a random article page?
Mar 23 2021, 4:51 AM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Current Sprint)

Mar 22 2021

Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

@Trizek-WMF Strange, because everything on my Homepage tab is still mostly in English. We're at 88% translated, 14% reviewed.

Mar 22 2021, 7:00 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Current Sprint)
Ponor added a comment to T275684: Deploy Growth features on Croatian Wikipedia.

Let's see how all this goes. We're hoping for more new users (who are not shy to ask for help). Zblace is advocating through [[:hr:Wikipedija:GLAM]], that seems like a good way to go. And the whole atmosphere on hr.wiki has definitely improved
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I'm almost done with the translations, but need to find someone to review them. You know how that works: small wiki = few to zero volunteers. Would it be possible to mark all the translations as reviewed so I can see them in the interface and fix what's wrong myself?

Mar 22 2021, 6:26 PM · Croatian-Sites, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Deployments, User-Urbanecm_WMF (Engineering), Growth-Team (Current Sprint)

Jan 21 2021

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

We think this could be a good idea, but would prefer if someone could organize what happens if/when images break. Without someone performing that product manager role, we think this switch would not be very successful. Does someone here want to take on that kind of work? Broken renderings must be identified, and if the renderer is at fault bug reports filed. If the file was at fault, the file must be fixed -- or at least organized into a list that the community can work from. We could provide a tool for testing individual images, but need people to run through them identifying what's actually wrong (if anything) when a file renders differently.

Jan 21 2021, 5:43 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering

Nov 20 2020

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

The problem isn't as much the amount of SVGs we get per day, than the fact that we render thumbnails on demand when they're for a file/size combination never requested before.

Nov 20 2020, 9:02 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering
Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

@Ponor: If I don't misunderstand then the argumentation seems mostly about stuff created with Inkscape. What about stuff not created with Inkscape?

Nov 20 2020, 8:40 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering
Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

According to Grafana, eqiad and codfw each get an average of 0.8 queries for new SVGs per second, with spikes up to 4 qps. More than 75% of those requests are handled using 575ms of CPU time on average. For context, there are 8.4 requests per second to eqiad and codfw for filetypes handled by imagemagick, including SVGs, which use 2-4s of CPU time.

Nov 20 2020, 8:09 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering
Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

@Ponor is imho talking about converting Inkscape-SVG to PNG by Inkscape and Batik-SVG to PNG by Batik, and Adobe-SVG to PNG by Adobe Illustrator, ....

Not exactly, I was thinking that 'inkscape --shell' should do Inkscape-SVG conversions. In my random sample on commons 24/30 files were made with Inkscape. Other producers could use either 'inkscape --shell' or whatever is used now.
For, you see, Inkscape will always be the best converter for whatever Inkscape can produce. I hope we can agree on that.

Nov 20 2020, 7:15 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering

Nov 18 2020

Ponor added a comment to T40010: RFC: Re-evaluate librsvg as SVG renderer on Wikimedia wikis.

Wouldn't it be best to use the tool that created a SVG for conversion to PNG as well, for one would get on commons exactly what they would get at home? No library can beat that, I am afraid.

Nov 18 2020, 9:05 AM · Proposal, Thumbor, MediaWiki-File-management, Commons, Wikimedia-SVG-rendering