Hi. Per @Nemo_bis's comment at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:InterProject.js#Broken_JavaScript I'm reporting this here.

In T220272#5191786, @Adithyak1997 wrote:

Can I post the request for having a co-maintainer be posted here?

Use-case: As a user, I want to access the help documentation for [feature].

For 2. The help link should go in the top-right (in LTR languages) corner, as is standard for other extensions. See examples at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log and at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=foobarbang

NKT / welcome & thanks
Welcome speech by Ing. Martin Svoboda (Director of NTK)
Happy to be hosting this event. As a computer engineer who graduated in '65, things were very different when I started. [laughter] I hope that our national library of technology provide sufficient technology for you to work here. [laughter] Enjoy the day!

Aha! and Doh! It's the VPN (I'm working from a cat cafe).
Using one of the ProtonVPN options (via Netherlands) I can confirm that the "thank" links vanish at those 3 wikis, and reappear if I do a hard-refresh after disconnecting from the VPN.
Sorry I didn't think of that, it's such a rare thing for me to be using. >.<

• Re: [Y/N; URL] Do you have a list of the code repositories that your team currently maintains / is supposed to maintain? If yes, please provide a link to it.
  • I imagine some teams will have multiple lists - make sure this is a multiline text-area?
• Re: [Y/N; URL] Does your team use a dashboard in Gerrit? If yes, please provide a link to it.
  • ditto for dashboards, and pluralize the question?
• Re: [FREETEXT] How does your team perform code review in Gerrit (or Github)? If a workflow exists, please describe it in words.
  • Example might help? (but IANAD. it might be obvious what kind of description is desired)

Note that this tool exists which greatly simplifies things: https://tools.wmflabs.org/phabulous/ Further docs (if needed) are linked at the top.

Details for posterity:

• 4 test messages sent, as logged at metawiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=massmessage&user=&page=&wpdate=2019-04-29&tagfilter=&subtype=
  • 22:25, 29 April 2019 Johan (WMF) (talk | contribs) sent a message to User:Johan (WMF)/Tech News test list (Tech News: 2019-18)
  • 22:00, 29 April 2019 Johan (WMF) (talk | contribs) sent a message to User:Johan (WMF)/Tech News test list (Test.)
  • 21:53, 29 April 2019 Johan (WMF) (talk | contribs) sent a message to User:Johan (WMF)/Tech News test list (Tech News: 2019-18)
  • 21:51, 29 April 2019 Johan (WMF) (talk | contribs) sent a message to User:Johan (WMF)/Tech News test list (Tech News: 2019-18)
• Only 3 arrived at Enwiki, out of order and delayed by at least 15 minutes: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johan_(WMF)&offset=20190429231617&limit=3&action=history
  • curprev 22:25, 29 April 2019‎ MediaWiki message delivery talk contribs‎ 150,943 bytes +4,125‎ →‎Tech News: 2019-18: new section undo Tag: MassMessage delivery
  • curprev 22:16, 29 April 2019‎ MediaWiki message delivery talk contribs‎ 146,818 bytes +4,125‎ →‎Tech News: 2019-18: new section undo Tag: MassMessage delivery
  • curprev 22:16, 29 April 2019‎ MediaWiki message delivery talk contribs‎ 142,693 bytes +220‎ →‎Test.: new section undo Tag: MassMessage delivery
• Only 2 arrived at Arwiki: https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Johan_(WMF)&offset=20190429230246&limit=5&action=history
  • curprev 22:25, 29 April 2019‎ MediaWiki message delivery talk contribs‎ 132,948 bytes +6,073‎ →‎Tech News: 2019-18: قسم جديد undo Tag: MassMessage delivery
  • curprev 22:16, 29 April 2019‎ MediaWiki message delivery talk contribs‎ 126,875 bytes +6,073‎ →‎Tech News: 2019-18: قسم جديد undo Tag: MassMessage delivery

etc

In T113114#5136922, @Ladsgroup wrote:

Just a wild idea, lots of websites have a fun tone in their error pages (both for 404 and 500). I have seen youtube referring to chaos monkeys, the north face says your page is eaten by a goat, github refers to star wars. I personally think If we do this, it reduces tension caused by frustration of the best website in the world not working. Does anyone think we should do it? If yes, I make another ticket for that.

Huge thanks to Krinkle for fixing this. :-) Tech News has now been delivered. I've unset the priority, accordingly.

@ahmad Thanks for the use-case description.
Just fyi, that page you linked is unrelated to this feature (the more recent Echo/Notifications system is currently distinct from the ancient "enotif" (email notification) system). Also fyi, the current list of requested new notification-types for Echo is at T125653: Create new types of notifications (of which this is a subtask) and semi-duplicated onwiki at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Notifications#Suggested_new_notification_types

@Esanders (Sorry, I'd noted it in IRC, but should've repeated here) Editing team is official code stewards per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers

@Esanders Feedback needed please and thank you!

removing tag, per previous comment.

In T221119#5121833, @Nikerabbit wrote:

In my opinion this issue is high priority but not UBN!.

Nikerabbit says (despite being on sickleave!)

might be an issue with jobqueue or an issue with jobs with details on logstash

Semi-confirmed in another page, at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-User%3AQuiddity+%28WMF%29%2Fsandboxtranslation&language=en-ca&task=view&filter=%21translated&action=translate - It let me translate the old pre-existing text, but gave the same error on a newly added line.

In T217435#5108721, @Elitre wrote:

@Quiddity @CKoerner_WMF does any of you own this?

@fgiunchedi Yes, please reset the password for this list. :-)

In T220641#5107895, @ICueva wrote:

Hello, how would I add emails to this list?

Add: icueva@wikimedia.org
Remove: itai@wikimedia.org
Thanks!

In T214238#4894985, @Nikki wrote:

We have es-419 for Latin American Spanish already.

@Ladsgroup Is there documentation about this new user-right and specialpage? I see the basics are covered in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/UrlShortener/+/496805/10/i18n/en.json
But I'm not sure if there's more details that show up for the stewards themselves in https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:ManageShortUrls (which we obviously cannot see), or if it's mentioned anywhere onwiki yet. Thanks!

(assuming user-error, re-opening)

Thanks for the details. :)

What specific task(s) are you wanting to achieve, that having a new formal namespace would help with? Examples would help!

Hi @JBaldwin, I just want to confirm that I understand what type of page you're talking about. Is this the page you mean by "last year"? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2018-2019/Final --
If yes, I can do that.
If it's something more complicated, then I'd appreciate example-links or clues about what kind of formatting you mean. Thanks!

Thanks! Do you happen to still have the underlying database query and could post it here so we could re-run it?

In T18691#5024680, @alexhollender wrote:

[...] At first this idea was exciting, but as I started to mock it realized that it is perhaps awkward to have some actions ("Edit" and "Edit source") be persistent, and have "Share" be visible only on hover.

@EvanProdromou Hi, Did you have any questions about the research and recommendations that I wrote about above? Thanks.

(minus the root page, and minus /de because I already created those 2 at [[wmania:]])

Is there an example of it live in action? If yes, please add it to the task description (for easy visibility) and maybe also the Tech News items? Thanks!

Struck earlier comment. My mistake, sorry for the noise. RhinosF1 was indeed seeking someone else to maintain it.

Hi @OriHoch, I've updated the task description with the other required parts of the process. Please do replace those "LINK" items with the links once you've completed each of them. Then after 14 days change the status from 'stalled' back to 'open'. - This is to make completely sure that all methods have been tried for contacting the existing maintainer(s), and there's always a possibility that you can convince them to return to help you with a little bit of advice if you ask nicely! Thanks.

In T18691#4994518, @osorio-juan-microsoft wrote:

I like the idea of the share button, even though it adds an extra click to a relatively simple action. However, what are we doing to address the earlier concern of placing more actions next to the Edit action, when Edit is the most important action on a wiki? Also, do we need to consider the mobile case as well (i.e. creating a solution for mobile browsing parallel to a desktop version)?

In T18691#4994518, @osorio-juan-microsoft wrote:

I like the idea of the share button, even though it adds an extra click to a relatively simple action. However, what are we doing to address the earlier concern of placing more actions next to the Edit action, when Edit is the most important action on a wiki? Also, do we need to consider the mobile case as well (i.e. creating a solution for mobile browsing parallel to a desktop version)?

In T18691#4994195, @dbarratt wrote:

What if, it just updated the address bar in your browser (i.e. it went to anchored link) and you could copy it from there?

I cannot reproduce with a clean redirect link. (in Firefox 65.0.1 (Linux) nor in Chromium 71)
You can Test it at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quiddity_(WMF)/sandbox&oldid=885582095
My result is a proper HTTP 302, and fully functional PagePreview:

Re: Right / Left

• Right-floating is what I currently use (via a personal Stylus user CSS) because I find it too distracting next to the headers,
• That's what all the Wikimedia sites originally/previously used (from 2004–2013) but it was globally changed (in Vector) to be next to the headings in 2013. (after failed attempts to do so (?) in 2007 and 2009).
  • See the detailed research that led to the 2013 change, linked at T96515#1219109 and T13270 and other links within those.
• Some other people (like me) also disliked the change and they float it back with user CSS. E.g. A search for ".mw-editsection {float: right;}" on Enwiki (but this search only finds people using this exact string/spacing/etc, so there are probably many more)

[edit -- addendum]

• One of the historical issues that plagued the right-floated links (when they were standard), was when they would "bunch up" under a tall navbox or a string of images. E.g. See the "April to June" heading here. There were complex docs on Help:How to fix bunched-up edit links!
• Personally I don't advocate for or against changing the current placement, but I love that I can override it easily. And the placement as a whole is complicated because of past history.