See the tag. (Mostly it's morale-building whimsy) (It's also getting more confusing, because "dragons" were declared to be the 'new' animal at the 2018 hackathon... But I'm staying out of it!)

Interesting external example of a "Help and feedback" footer section: 4 tabs, each with 2-3 entries - https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/development/i18n/translation.html#help-and-feedback

Thank you! (yeah, I saw the empty sections, but didn't know how to clearly describe it, and I figured you'd see it :)

@Nuria thanks for the reminder of that! I've added it to the page. (Docs or it didn't happen! ;-)
That helps us see some of the information, but it leaves out, e.g. users with no-JS extensions enabled, or users behind a corporate intranet that blocks JS, or users who had their page-load interrupted midway. I don't know how those wider circumstances are best technically captured, or if this is the right task to ask for it, or how much info we could get with minimal/feasible efforts? I'll leave it up to you though. :-) Also I've filed the related T213215: Improve Dashiki defaults for Browser selection.

Moving to backlog workboard, until work resumes.

I believe it would be very useful to get more accurate statistics on our non-JavaScript users (both readers and editors if separable), for the purposes of product planning and task prioritization and generally for understanding our users.
The notes we've compiled at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/No-JavaScript_notes have very unclear/inconclusive #Metrics and nothing new for the last few years.
I don't know whether this task is the best place to request that, or if somewhere else should be used.

Some related links (maybe put some of these in the task description?).

• https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Glossary
• https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Glossary
• and dozens more: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1389361#sitelinks-wikipedia
• https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Terminology
• https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Terminology/mediawiki
• https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Glossary
• https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Glossary
• https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Edit_Review_Improvements/Glossary
• https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Glossary

In T13271#158724, @Aklapper wrote:

Is there a specific example for a template inclusion on some Wikimedia site that this request could be (re)tested with?

I just found this lovely related notes page https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Action_paths and hence I came looking for why this task idea, or the alternative T14619: Use article path URLs for editing, previewing skins, etc., hadn't been made default since I last looked at them (idk!?).

Thanks for the merge, @JAllemandou ! What are the next steps to complete this task?
IIUC the 2 steps that Milimetric described above have now been completed, but pageviews are not yet visible for wikitech (example1, example2). Perhaps it just needs to wait for the deployment train to do a circuit? (There's no rush, I just want to make sure it's moving forward :)

I believe (and personally hope) the plan is to keep the RGB version for community logos. Per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brand#Using_the_Wikimedia_mark and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Logo#Current_logos it's the main logo for the movement.

In T190560#4846240, @Qgil wrote:

[...] I don't know what is the state of the art of displaying related search results, but as a user I think I remember seeing results from other projects in a separate column. The equivalent here would be to see Discourse results in a separate column when showing the results of a query in MediaWiki.org.

I have the same frustration but with the opposite (default) preferences. I love the feature, but usually disable it because this issue is too annoying.

If you do merge it, I suggest changing the title of that task to: Differentiate between internal, sister-wiki, interwiki, and external links visually

In T211827#4824638, @MusikAnimal wrote:

@Quiddity Do you plan on [...]

@Nuria Yes, sorry that my description was ambiguous! We want separate lists for each Wikipedia. I.e. various Chapters want language-specific lists, to share/answer with their own press contacts.

@TBolliger Please could you (or someone who knows the latest details) update the task description above, to contain an uptodate description of the change(s) that will be implemented? (The Tech/News item points here for more info, but this thread is long). Thanks!

In T156293#4732807, @Jdlrobson wrote:

@Legoktm @Krinkle is there any easy way to replicate this locally? What is the easiest way to create a local page (and thus diff) for a page with a different content type? I must confess I've never done this before.

Once I can replicate I can push up a fix.

For implemetation, see my old related notes created to illustrate what was possible (but not necessarily advisable!) at

• https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Quiddity/Sandbox3
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quiddity_(WMF)/sandbox&direction=next&oldid=827778120

but keep in mind that some of those Enwiki aspects will be harder to port across to wikitech. I mainly suggest looking at things like "centered vs left-aligned", and think of those examples as containing many lessons to avoid.

I did everything requested, and left notes for final followup. Re-assigning task to Samuel for completion. See my notes in the email "Access Policy, etc. - Done! - Wrapup bits..." for specifics

Thanks!

Welcome to the life of German and Polish speakers.

@Aklapper @Jdforrester-WMF It might be good to check this in various browsers if feasible (browsershots.org?), or shorten the string (?!?), because on my system (Linux Mint, Firefox, DejaVu Sans typeface) the string Help about MediaWiki is 130px wide, contained in a column that is 131.2px wide. Any wider typeface is going to cause linewrap.

Note: it affects all users, not just my account. E.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?format=jsonfm&action=query&list=users|usercontribs&usprop=blockinfo|editcount|gender|registration|groups&uclimit=1&ucprop=timestamp&ususers=Jimbo%20Wales&ucuser=Jimbo%20Wales&meta=allmessages&amprefix=grouppage-&amincludelocal=1

I'm done with my part.

Afaict, that second link is no longer part of the page.

Note: A related idea was recently suggested at w:en:WP:VPI (permalink) - TLDR: They want a slightly-less-bright background than the current plain white (i.e. not a night-mode, just a pale grey/similar). p.s. I've occasionally used a bookmarklet to achieve this at various websites.

I added our collated notes from here to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Reading/Accessibility_settings_for_everyone - please vote before 30 November. :-)

Thank you all, including @Adithyak1997 for taking on these responsibilities. :-)

In T164247#3227367, @Nikerabbit wrote:

Not directly related, but we are currently not using all of the data that we log. Logging of some events could be removed after a review what is needed.

[Only semi-related, but I'm not sure where else to put it...] I recently saw this question at /r/mediawiki on reddit: "(is it) possible to include the (Help Contents) section of the mediawiki for offline use?" They want a copy of "Help:Contents" manual locally on their wiki. Someone suggested they needed to use export/import, and they replied:

"I was looking for the editing help pages, the ones that show you how to format your wiki pages you create, such as font or links and tables, or whatever is new in 1.31.1. I was hoping it was included in the mediawiki, but it looks like it points to the website instead. I will look at exporting/importing pages, I have not done that before. ".

Sidenote: This was briefly a proposed wishlist item, but the author had more than 3 wishes so retracted this one. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Archive/Video_player_should_allow_playback_at_multiple_speeds

Visually it looks good. :-) I'm not a dev so cannot review the code solution used.

In T12093#155755, @TTO wrote:

This works now! Yay.