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Discussion notes captured at E325: ArchCom RFC Meeting W43: Allow HTML in SVG? (2016-10-26, #wikimedia-office)
15:00:08 <wm-labs-meetbot> Meeting ended Wed Oct 26 22:00:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:00:08 <wm-labs-meetbot> Minutes: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-26-21.01.html
15:00:08 <wm-labs-meetbot> Minutes (text): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-26-21.01.txt
15:00:08 <wm-labs-meetbot> Minutes (wiki): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-26-21.01.wiki
15:00:08 <wm-labs-meetbot> Log: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-26-21.01.log.html
Oct 25 2016
Oct 22 2016
More nicely formatted version of the notes over here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/ApiUsability
This session should be a followup to last year's T122818
Oct 21 2016
Notes from this session:
Oct 20 2016
Great conversation yesterday about this topic. See E323 for the semi-automated summary of the discussion.
Thank you for the writing prompt, @MelodyKramer ! I ended up plagiarizing large portions of your text, and sending it to the Pandoc mailing list (a copy of my email). Rumor has it that it resulted in at least one new registration, and I'm hoping more to come.
Oct 19 2016
15:00:07 <wm-labs-meetbot> Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 22:00:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:00:07 <wm-labs-meetbot> Minutes: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-19-21.03.html
15:00:07 <wm-labs-meetbot> Minutes (text): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-19-21.03.txt
15:00:07 <wm-labs-meetbot> Minutes (wiki): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-19-21.03.wiki
15:00:07 <wm-labs-meetbot> Log: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-10-19-21.03.log.html
Oct 18 2016
We have this tentatively planned as our IRC meeting topic for this Wednesday:
Oct 17 2016
I wanted to make sure to note that several of us have been discussing this on wiki as well: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/JSON_validation
I took the liberty of adding @daniel as a co-facilitator for this area as a response to Daniel's on-wiki comment. Daniel, I think this would be the topic for us to drill down on content model related work.
@scfc and @saper are listed on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers as developers for PostgreSQL support and might be able to help.
Oct 15 2016
Thanks for filing this @binbot, and thanks for starting the "Long summary upon reverting an IPv6 anon" discussion on wikitech-l. As you noted, the previous editor's fully linked name is an unfortunate truncation. The article where we can see this happening is the page history of huwiki:Újrahasznosítás
Oct 14 2016
T147177 seems really relevant to this topic. @chasemp and @bd808 are listed as facilitators but it's noted "it would be better to have volunteer developer driving this main topic". Would @Hydriz be a logical person to ask? Assuming the answer is "yes", then the natural next question: @Hydriz, is this something you'd be interested in helping with?
In order to understand if rMWaa5be0c1e03d is a safe change, I'd need to better understand the problem @aaron was trying to fix with rMW2be60e777a09, which introduced the setValidationHash call that @Ejegg is changing. Understanding that myself is a little out of my depth, but I'm hoping y'all understand this given the proposed modifications.
Last year, @MrStradivarius suggested "Standardise procedures for deprecating public-facing code" (T114384) as a topic for Wikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016. Since his initial proposal, the topic hasn't exactly been solved. We have T121204 and T146965, and we at WMF are struggling with how to deal with deployed components that don't have clear owners (see T128370).
Oct 13 2016
I see Cassandra, CouchBase, Riak, HBase, and HyperDex listed on the wiki page.
Oct 12 2016
@Huji, thank you for stepping up! This particular area of code is going to deserve extra scrutiny during elections, so I'd like to ensure I'm not the only person looking at @Huji's request. I haven't looked at this area of code and haven't been involved in the Wikimedia election process for a couple of years, and there could be ramifications that I haven't fully considered. Thus, my support does come with that caveat. I love the idea of someone outside of WMF stepping up and assuming this responsibility.
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Oct 11 2016
I had vaguely recalled in a conversation with someone (@bd808 perhaps?) that "I think getCanonicalName is my fault". This may be my earliest contribution to MediaWiki (which I rediscovered via git as e4480a80afb7).
The el_owner field should instead be populated with the user ID of the user who creates the poll. That way we won't have issues with strict mode either.
@Huji - excellent! My apologies for making assumptions about @Anomie being the last active contributor. As for ownership, the requirements are very loosely defined, but demonstrating that you're responsive and motivated helps make the case that we should treat you as an owner.
@Anomie: do you have an idea of how difficult it would be to complete this? I'm not asking you to do it, just wanting to understand how large the maintenance task might be.
Oct 6 2016
We should do this. Phab events are designed for meetings, so even without the .ics support, this would be helpful.
Oct 5 2016
Discussed at E287: ArchCom RFC Meeting W40: Future of magic links. (2016-10-05, #wikimedia-office). Important bits of the summary:
- AGREED: 1. Disable the magic link functionality by default for the MediaWiki 1.28 release (TimStarling, 21:56:26)
- AGREED: 2. Deprecate magic links on Wikimedia wikis (e.g. Wikipedia), providing alternatives for this functionality and tools to aid the migration (TimStarling, 21:56:58)
- note: some nuance around this agreement was discussed in the full log below (lines 202-208)
- no consensus on removing the functionality from MW or flagging its pending removal via deprecation (TimStarling, 21:58:35)
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One note for myself: as part of completing this task, I'd like to move https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:RobLa-WMF/Wikitech-l to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikitech-l , since I believe that wikitech-l is important enough to MediaWiki that it should have page on MediaWiki.org describing this list and its role as "paper of record" for last call announcements (assuming we keep this on wikitech-l)
Oct 4 2016
Oct 3 2016
I get where Yuri is coming from. YAML's comments and more flexible handling of formatting make it a more interesting format for hand crafting. The idea of allowing a more forgiving format for text entry is appealing. Also, comments.
Sep 30 2016
Thanks for the ping on this! I think this topic relates to all this: