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Mon, Nov 25

Thryduulf added a comment to T199579: Parsoid fails to round-trip   embedded in html comments.

In this edit Parsoid (presumably) replaced   in a reference name with a plain space (line 258 change block) when I made an unrelated change to the page (the addition of a parenthesis at line 289 was the only change I made, everything else is VE/Parsoid). It left the non-breaking spaces in the reference title alone.

Mon, Nov 25, 1:37 AM · Parsoid-Edit-Support

Sat, Nov 16

Thryduulf added a comment to T59437: Allow the VE dialog for math elements to be movable and resizable.

https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/81134/should-modal-dialogs-be-movable seems to show a (rough) consensus that when a proposed solution to a dialog is to make it moveable, the dialog itself is poorly designed. That implies looking for a different solution that addresses the underlying user problem.

Sat, Nov 16, 2:17 PM · VisualEditor, Math
Thryduulf added a comment to T51969: OOUI: Dialogs should be repositionable/draggable.

@John_Broughton that seems to be assuming that the category name will appear as text somewhere in the article, but that will not always be the case. For example List of pear cultivars is in Category:Lists of foods. The words "Lists" and "foods" appear nowhere on the page other than the category names, even "food" appears only in the link to a portal and in the title of one reference and neither are in close proximity to any instance of the word "list". I imagine this will be even worse in languages where plurals are formed differently than in English.

Sat, Nov 16, 2:10 PM · Epic, OOUI

Nov 6 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T236520: In Firefox 70, view goes up to the top of the page when user exits Media Viewer.

Unsurprisingly, this is bug is still present in Firefox 70.0.1

Nov 6 2019, 11:25 AM · Upstream, Browser-Support-Firefox, Regression, MediaViewer

Nov 1 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T46787: Allow excluding pages from the page links notifications.

I definitely don't want link notices for every page on my watchlist - e,g, I have many policy pages on my watchlist but I don't want to get spammed by links to them. Getting link notices for pages not on your watchlist is probably rarer, but I wouldn't discount a desire for it.

Nov 1 2019, 8:10 PM · patch-welcome, Growth-Team, Notifications

Oct 31 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T46787: Allow excluding pages from the page links notifications.

Not only is that the third (at least) time in this thread that Special:EditWatchlist and Special:EditWatchlist/raw have been mentioned, it was also in the opening comment of T143809 which was closed as a duplicate of this task in 2016. The other solutions mentioned in the past day are also not new.

Oct 31 2019, 10:46 AM · patch-welcome, Growth-Team, Notifications
Thryduulf added a comment to T236520: In Firefox 70, view goes up to the top of the page when user exits Media Viewer.

From the merged task, this occurs in Firefox 70 on Windows 7, Windows 10 and Xubuntu Linux 18.04. It doesn't occur in Firefox 69 on Windows nor in Chromium or Konqueror on Linux.

Oct 31 2019, 10:37 AM · Upstream, Browser-Support-Firefox, Regression, MediaViewer

Oct 30 2019

Thryduulf created T236967: Closing an image returns you to the top of the page, not where you were before clicking on the picture in Firefox.
Oct 30 2019, 10:49 PM · MediaViewer, Browser-Support-Firefox
Thryduulf added a comment to T46787: Allow excluding pages from the page links notifications.

Another possible UI solution that would work for this, T77154 and allow opt-in for notifications to arbitrary pages (I can't find the task for that) would be something similar to watchlist editing Special:EditWatchlist and Special:EditWatchlist/raw
I don't think this is mutually exclusive with Levivich's suggestion.

Oct 30 2019, 10:21 PM · patch-welcome, Growth-Team, Notifications

Oct 24 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T77154: Notification: Your file was used.

In addition to the single-image opt-out it would be useful to have:

  1. opt-outs for multiple (sets of) images (so someone who has created lots of icons but is interested in other files they have created) doesn't have to uncheck all of them individually
  2. opt-ins for single images, e.g. if you request an image or collaborate with someone to improve an image you might be interested in following where it is being used
  3. opt-ins for multiple (sets of) images, e.g. if you want to track all images of a certain topic.
Oct 24 2019, 8:50 AM · Growth-Team, Outreach-Programs-Projects, Wikimedia-Hackathon-2017, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016, TCB-Team, German-Community-Wishlist, Collaboration-Team-Triage, Notifications

Sep 9 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T176428: Search Relevance test #4 - action items.

Regarding Yes / Maybe / No / Don't know, would the classification problem go away/become easier to solve if it was instead:
Yes / Maybe / No / Skip (this question)? The last returning no data about how good the match is (i.e. the same as if they hadn't been asked the question). Possibly keep track of the number of people who chose to skip so that any with a particularly high number could be human reviewed to see why (probably a niche topic, but maybe the question doesn't make sense).

Sep 9 2019, 8:09 PM · Discovery-Search, Discovery

Jun 25 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T166092: Copyrighted images in Explore feed.

This is definitely related to T165807, and one is possibly a subtask of the other but I'm not sure which way round.

Jun 25 2019, 11:41 AM · Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog (Administrative), Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, Mobile-Content-Service, Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog

Apr 24 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T120170: [Epic] Paid editing (COI) detection model.

Is this tool really detecting paid editing or actually promotional editing? The two are not the same thing, merely overlapping sets (not all promotional editing is paid, not all paid editing is promotional).

Apr 24 2019, 1:51 PM · Scoring-platform-team, Research ideas, artificial-intelligence
Thryduulf added a comment to T188607: Syntax highlighting disables middle button copy/paste in Firefox.

Is this a duplicate of T174635?

Apr 24 2019, 12:06 PM · Browser-Support-Firefox, MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror

Mar 6 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T6055: farm / meta activities / logs should be duplicated at related wikis.

Unless I'm missing something, it looks like the complexity and consequent priority of this task hasn't been evaluated since before SUL was fully implemented. Given that it's been open over 13 years would it be possible for someone to take a look again at how much work would be involved - and then just do it if it's a simple job.

Mar 6 2019, 2:43 PM · MediaWiki-Logging, Stewards-and-global-tools, Crosswiki

Feb 2 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T190349: Allow users to be blocked from editing pages within a specific category.

In the light of the above comments, I think the only way this could move forward would be as a way of adding a batch of page blocks at once. e.g. if I was to partially block User:Example and set the target as Category:Ships built in Millwall I would actually be blocking them from the ten specific pages in that category and the category page. If, e.g., HMS Eclipse (1860) were removed from that category they would still be blocked from editing it, but would not be blocked from editing any pages added to the category after the moment the block was applied (an explicit note to this effect in the UI would be good).

Feb 2 2019, 11:20 PM · MediaWiki-User-management

Jan 24 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T214565: Pages that autofill the username of an account get cut off with usernames that contain '?' within it.

Noting that the behaviour is (unsurprisingly) the same in Chromium and that the workaround of replacing the ? in the url with %3f exists but (a) this is cumbersome, (b) you need to spot you need to do it, (c) you need to know and remember the encoding.

Jan 24 2019, 11:01 AM · MediaWiki-Special-pages, MediaWiki-General

Jan 5 2019

Thryduulf added a comment to T6845: CAPTCHA doesn't work for people with visual impairments.

So the question is why has work not been put aside to fix an issue of recognised high importance that will, 13 years after first being raised, resolve an issue that results in us discriminating against people who are (in many jurisdictions) a legally protected minority?

Jan 5 2019, 6:23 PM · ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension), Accessibility, Design, WCAG-Level-A, Security

Nov 22 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T203171: Do not display "this user is blocked" messages on user & user_talk pages for partial blocks.

Certainly I think that if the user is blocked from editing their own talk page this should be made clear to other users, regardless of what sort of block it is the result of.

Nov 22 2018, 12:41 PM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.8; 2018-12-11), Anti-Harassment (AHT Sprint 35), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-User-management

Nov 20 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T52568: VisualEditor: Be able to name references manually in the reference dialog.

My first thought is that this wont remain opaque to VE forever and so what is required is a workaround that exposes to VE some aspects about the contents of templates like {{columns-list}} even if cannot be edited yet.
For example, the template could expose metadata like:

References included:  'Smith' 'Jones' 'Patel'

where each of those is the name= parameter of a reference used inside it.

Nov 20 2018, 8:44 PM · Cite, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Nov 16 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T208981: Reference context doesn't show that the reference is reused, which is confusing if you try to delete and recreate it (converting a re-used basic reference to template citation).

You want to convert a reference without a template to one that uses a template. VE can do that, but only where the reference is originally defined, not where it has been reused (as it has been here). See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Thryduulf/sandbox2&oldid=869166099 for a quick illustration.

Nov 16 2018, 8:50 PM · Editing Design, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.23; 2019-03-26), Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References

Nov 15 2018

TBolliger awarded T209601: Add an icon on user and user talk pages to display that account's permissions and status a Like token.
Nov 15 2018, 4:57 PM · MediaWiki-User-management
Thryduulf added a comment to T203171: Do not display "this user is blocked" messages on user & user_talk pages for partial blocks.

OK, given that it's out of scope for this project I've created it as T209601.

Nov 15 2018, 4:16 PM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.8; 2018-12-11), Anti-Harassment (AHT Sprint 35), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-User-management
Thryduulf created T209601: Add an icon on user and user talk pages to display that account's permissions and status.
Nov 15 2018, 4:14 PM · MediaWiki-User-management
Thryduulf added a comment to T208981: Reference context doesn't show that the reference is reused, which is confusing if you try to delete and recreate it (converting a re-used basic reference to template citation).

Okay but what's with this Version I edited without a convert option (Cite one): https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EBuLa&oldid=179684205&veaction=edit
It's:

<ref name="db-netze-2014-12-04" />

There isn't anything to convert to a template in that reference, so why would it offer to do that?
If you want it to move the definition from later in the articleto the first instance of it being used, that's a different issue and one that is probably worth seeking consensus about first.

Nov 15 2018, 4:01 PM · Editing Design, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.23; 2019-03-26), Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References

Nov 14 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T208981: Reference context doesn't show that the reference is reused, which is confusing if you try to delete and recreate it (converting a re-used basic reference to template citation).

Actually, on both en and de Wikipedias there is a convert button if a URL is encased in a <ref> tag but not if it isn't - compare:

On both wikis the reference name was retained after conversion (en, de), but more testing is needed to determine whether this holds true in other circumstances (multiple references, reused, etc) that I don't have time to do right now.

Nov 14 2018, 2:28 AM · Editing Design, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.23; 2019-03-26), Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References

Nov 13 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T52568: VisualEditor: Be able to name references manually in the reference dialog.

When this is implemented it needs to take account of reused references:
i.e. if <ref name="Smith">...</ref> is renamed to <ref name="Jones">...</ref>
then all instances of <ref name="Smith" /> need to be automatically changed to <ref name="Jones" />

Nov 13 2018, 8:00 PM · Cite, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools
Thryduulf added a comment to T208981: Reference context doesn't show that the reference is reused, which is confusing if you try to delete and recreate it (converting a re-used basic reference to template citation).

The workflow on T123778 is:

  1. In VE, select a bare reference with a name. e.g. <ref name="Smith1970">http://example.com</ref>
  2. click to convert that reference, filling in fields as appropriate
  3. save the changes
Nov 13 2018, 7:53 PM · Editing Design, MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.23; 2019-03-26), Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References

Nov 12 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T209296: Edit filter log: add a suppress option on the examine changes page .

Yes, now I've learned that "details" has the suppression link I'll certainly be using that - I'm still learning my way around the log to a certain extent!
I've subscribed to T20655 as well.

Nov 12 2018, 6:06 PM · AbuseFilter
Thryduulf added a comment to T203171: Do not display "this user is blocked" messages on user & user_talk pages for partial blocks.

One option would be to have a visible but discrete icon on the userpage that can be clicked/moused over. There would not be any stigma if this were something like "status", appeared on every user/user talk page and showed things like what permissions a user has (admin, rollback, etc) as well as items like "partially blocked" and "editing restrictions" (although as the latter are not known to the software at all these may not be possible). My first thought is that this would be similar in size and placement to en.wp's lock icons, featured article stars, etc.

Nov 12 2018, 5:17 PM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.8; 2018-12-11), Anti-Harassment (AHT Sprint 35), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-User-management
Thryduulf added a comment to T209296: Edit filter log: add a suppress option on the examine changes page .

The page you link to is the "details" of the filter, the one I refer to is the "examine" which does not, e.g. for the same edit.

Nov 12 2018, 5:05 PM · AbuseFilter
Thryduulf created T209296: Edit filter log: add a suppress option on the examine changes page .
Nov 12 2018, 4:31 PM · AbuseFilter

Oct 1 2018

RandomDSdevel awarded T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text a Cookie token.
Oct 1 2018, 1:04 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Sep 25 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T204623: [wmf.22 testwiki] RC user selected 'Time period to search' in hours does not update "Days to show in recent changes" option.

(3) Preferences -RC should be fixed to allow users to enter values between 0 and 1.

There is no reason why watchlist preferences between 0 and 1 should not be allowed, any value greater than 0 would avoid the problems identified in T199049

Sep 25 2018, 3:08 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Patch-For-Review, Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page

Aug 28 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T202989: Administrators can no longer view deleted history of js/css pages.

Why would there be any security issues with admins being able to view deleted js/css pages? The security issues surely come from edits being potentially harmful. If there truly are any revisions which must be hidden from almost everyone's view then isn't that what Oversight is for?

Aug 28 2018, 5:22 PM · Patch-For-Review, Trust-and-Safety, Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, Security, JavaScript

Jul 18 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T124305: Users sometimes struggle to select the text of the link anchor within the cartouche and so delete it on select-retype.

I'm reporting the same issue as @Ryasmeen. While in my workflow of changing a link, I've several clicked on "change label" to change the label, and re-clicked because nothing was happening (and re-clicked, just in case it auto-fixes). Something was actually happening: the label is selected in the text. I think I unconscious mind thought that was broken because nothing visible changed. I'm used to have a dialog to open for those actions.
Some users may have the same issue: expecting something that is not happening.

Jul 18 2018, 7:25 PM · User-Ryasmeen, MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-07-10 (1.32.0-wmf.12)), Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor (Current work), Tech-Ambassadors, User-notice, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor-Links

Jul 11 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T199049: Value of 0 for "Days to show in watchlist" or "Maximum number of changes to show in watchlist" setting breaks watchlists; should instead be interpreted as maximum or no limit.

IMO clicking "show" should always display the results of the settings in the form, even if they are unchanged and even if the defaults differ from user preference settings (what the defaults should be is an unrelated issue).

Jul 11 2018, 10:05 AM · MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-09-25 (1.32.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), MediaWiki-User-preferences, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Restricted Application added a project to T176857: Watchlist links with "&days=0" give an incorrect display: Growth-Team.
Jul 11 2018, 9:50 AM · Growth-Team, MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-10-03 (1.31.0-wmf.2)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Watchlist

Jul 9 2018

Liuxinyu970226 awarded T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text a Like token.
Jul 9 2018, 4:07 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Jul 8 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T176033: Watchlist param days=30 doesn't override user preference 'watchlistdays' = 0.

Based on this and T198961 I've created T199049 to (hopefully) resolve the issues.

Jul 8 2018, 10:58 AM · MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-09-18 (1.32.0-wmf.22)), Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Regression, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Thryduulf added a comment to T198961: Watchlist on meta wiki not displaying changes until "show" button is clicked.

Based on this and T176033 I've created T199049 to (hopefully) resolve the issues.

Jul 8 2018, 10:58 AM · Growth-Team, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Thryduulf added a comment to T199049: Value of 0 for "Days to show in watchlist" or "Maximum number of changes to show in watchlist" setting breaks watchlists; should instead be interpreted as maximum or no limit.

I suppose another approach would be to disallow 0 as a value and change all existing instances of this value to be equal to the current maximum. This would be less preferable to the above though.

Jul 8 2018, 10:57 AM · MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-09-25 (1.32.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), MediaWiki-User-preferences, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Thryduulf created T199049: Value of 0 for "Days to show in watchlist" or "Maximum number of changes to show in watchlist" setting breaks watchlists; should instead be interpreted as maximum or no limit.
Jul 8 2018, 10:54 AM · MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-09-25 (1.32.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), MediaWiki-User-preferences, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Restricted Application added a project to T180906: Add a deeplink from Special:Watchlist to watchlist in Special:Preferences: Growth-Team.
Jul 8 2018, 10:03 AM · Growth-Team, MediaWiki-User-preferences, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Restricted Application added a project to T176033: Watchlist param days=30 doesn't override user preference 'watchlistdays' = 0: Growth-Team.
Jul 8 2018, 10:03 AM · MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-09-18 (1.32.0-wmf.22)), Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Regression, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Thryduulf added a comment to T198961: Watchlist on meta wiki not displaying changes until "show" button is clicked.

It seems that the default "days to display in watchlist" had somehow become set to 0, and increasing that value has apparently fixed the problem.
Given that a value of 0 apparently breaks the watchlist, it might be an idea to either not allow that or at least warn that it will break, however unless someone wants to make this task about that, this task can probably be closed.

Jul 8 2018, 12:51 AM · Growth-Team, MediaWiki-Watchlist

Jul 6 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T198961: Watchlist on meta wiki not displaying changes until "show" button is clicked.

I'm not sure where the place to report this on meta would be, but my searches have not turned up anything relevant.

Jul 6 2018, 2:56 PM · Growth-Team, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Thryduulf created T198961: Watchlist on meta wiki not displaying changes until "show" button is clicked.
Jul 6 2018, 12:37 PM · Growth-Team, MediaWiki-Watchlist

Jun 26 2018

IKhitron awarded T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text a Like token.
Jun 26 2018, 9:28 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

May 3 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T174388: LoginNotify should inform users of the IP address of failed login attempts to their account.

AntiSpoof isn't foolproof though, e.g. it disallows Тhryduulf (the first letter is Cyrillic) but probably not Thryduuulf (too many 'u's) or Awkwrad42 (typo for my alt Awkward42).

May 3 2018, 10:39 PM · Growth-Team, Patch-For-Review, Notifications, Collaboration-Team-Triage, User-Huji, Community-Tech, Privacy, WMF-Legal, MediaWiki-extensions-LoginNotify

Mar 12 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T188798: Change the limit of the edit summary to 500 characters on all Wikimedia wikis.

We as a community should move away from the ‘holier-than-thou’ relationship of English Wikipedia with WMF. If you would not do changes that might prove bad in English Wikipedia, don’t do them in other communities as well. If current trade-off is 500 characters (although I’d prefer the return to status quo), it should be applied everywhere.

The wishes of the vocal users of the English Wikipedia frequently do not represent what other communities want or find useful.

Mar 12 2018, 12:42 PM · MediaWiki-Comment-backend, Community-Tech, Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Page-editing

Mar 3 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T105334: Indicate which source languages have Machine Translation enabled.

"not high priority" and "should be dismissed out of hand" are two completely different things.

Mar 3 2018, 11:31 AM · WorkType-NewFunctionality, ContentTranslation

Mar 2 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T6717: Change the history view to accommodate larger edit summaries.

@stjn I think the optimal would be a show/hide javascript (or whatever) link for long edit summaries with the default being selectable in your preferences. I don't know how much work would be, but I guess it is not astoundingly trivial.

Mar 2 2018, 9:16 PM · MediaWiki-Page-History, MediaWiki-Comment-backend, MediaWiki-Page-Diffs

Mar 1 2018

Thryduulf created T188682: Message about references defined in templates not being editable is sub-optimal in historical visual diffs..
Mar 1 2018, 11:33 PM · MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-27 (1.31.0-wmf.27)), VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-VisualDiffs
Thryduulf added a comment to T177509: No in-browser spell checking in Firefox when "Wikitext syntax highlighting" beta feature is enabled with the 2010 wikitext editor.

I can reproduce this in Firefox 56.0 but not in Chromium 64.0.3282.167

Mar 1 2018, 9:39 PM · Patch-For-Review, Browser-Support-Firefox, MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror
Thryduulf created T188607: Syntax highlighting disables middle button copy/paste in Firefox.
Mar 1 2018, 11:45 AM · Browser-Support-Firefox, MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror

Feb 18 2018

Thryduulf created T187636: tables with id "toc" are invisible in VisualEditor but can be (acidentally) deleted.
Feb 18 2018, 3:28 AM · MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-20 (1.31.0-wmf.22)), VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-ContentEditable
Thryduulf added a comment to T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text.

@Pginer-WMF That looks like it would resolve at least most of the issues I have with the current set-up, and as long as it is obvious that truncation has happened when it has then there are no immediate problems with it I can see.

Feb 18 2018, 2:42 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Jan 12 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T179414: Create API option to see if user has an email address associated with their account.

@TBolliger based on the comment by @Ragesoss this API option might have useful application indpedenet of T184470

Jan 12 2018, 2:14 AM · MediaWiki-User-preferences

Jan 6 2018

Thryduulf added a comment to T184141: Internet Archive Bot apparently fails to analyse Tenerife article on enwiki.

For me, even though it would be frustrating seeing an error after so long that would be preferable to silently timing out. If the error had suggested next steps (e.g. alternatives or workarounds if there are any) then this would reduce the frustration slightly.

Jan 6 2018, 11:00 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive
Thryduulf created T184326: IABot rescued and marked as permanently dead same link in different parts of same page in same run.
Jan 6 2018, 1:52 AM · Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot

Jan 4 2018

Thryduulf created T184141: Internet Archive Bot apparently fails to analyse Tenerife article on enwiki.
Jan 4 2018, 12:45 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v2.0), Internet-Archive

Dec 10 2017

Thryduulf created T182531: Get original title, etc for websites replaced by domain reselling pages.
Dec 10 2017, 1:39 PM · InternetArchiveBot

Nov 18 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T180856: &nbsp; is not an author or editor.

@Zoranzoki21 removing nbsp is not even the main issue here, it's misinterpreting nbsp as the name of an author/editor

Nov 18 2017, 10:26 PM · AutoWikiBrowser

Nov 17 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T166092: Copyrighted images in Explore feed.

I think you may have misunderstood - fair use images are appearing on the main page in the app when they do not do so on the desktop version or mobile view of the desktop version.

Nov 17 2017, 11:51 PM · Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog (Administrative), Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, Mobile-Content-Service, Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog
Thryduulf added a comment to T66090: Allow "article-linked" notifications for pages in a user defined list.

and also remove notifications that a user doesn't car about, e.g. I want to know about new links to Q24258909 (broken rail) but I don't care about new links to Q26484625 (lap (of a circuit). The latter are far more common, but I can only choose to get both or neither currently and have no options at all about new links to Q7283877 (Rail Accident Investigation Branch), which I'd like to see, as that item was created by a bot.

Nov 17 2017, 11:09 PM · Growth-Team, Collaboration-Team-Triage, Notifications
Thryduulf created T180856: &nbsp; is not an author or editor.
Nov 17 2017, 11:02 PM · AutoWikiBrowser

Nov 12 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T165807: Improve news lead image selection.

T166092 is related to this - any automatic selection of images should not display fair use or other non-free images.

Nov 12 2017, 10:08 AM · Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog, iOS-app-feature-Feed, Mobile-Content-Service, Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog
Thryduulf added a comment to T166092: Copyrighted images in Explore feed.

The copyrighted E.T. film poster is today prominently displayed on the main page of the mobile site as the article about the film is today's featured article on en.wp. This is despite the human-curated front page of the desktop front page using the public domain extract from the logo. I don't see why there would ever be a need for a different image to be used.

Nov 12 2017, 10:05 AM · Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog (Administrative), Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, Mobile-Content-Service, Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog

Nov 8 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T4700: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures).

@Billinghurst add an entry to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_Survey (I guess it would fit in the editing section?).

Nov 8 2017, 3:31 PM · Cite, Epic, MediaWiki-Parser

Nov 7 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T4700: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures).

Am I correct in thinking that {{subst:CURRENTMONTH}} and {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} not being substituded in this edit is due to this bug?

Nov 7 2017, 9:15 PM · Cite, Epic, MediaWiki-Parser

Oct 12 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T178006: Search Relevance test #5: are users happy with the search results they got?.

If someone clicks the "why are we asking this?" link it might be worth stopping/extending the timeout before the popup disappears so that the question is still there when they've read the answer.

Oct 12 2017, 11:09 AM · Discovery-Search, Discovery
Thryduulf added a comment to T171215: Interleaved results A/B test: analysis of data.

Do click-throughs count when the result is opened in another tab/window - I do this quite often when I'm not sure which of a few results is the one I want.

Oct 12 2017, 11:06 AM · Discovery-Search (Current work), Discovery-Analysis (Current work), Discovery, CirrusSearch

Sep 25 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T176428: Search Relevance test #4 - action items.

In T176428#3628266, @debt wrote:

Is "maybe" going to go into the same bucket that "i don't know" has gone into? They aren't quite the same.

They're not quite the same, but I'm not sure that that distinction is made outside of our team (i.e. do users of the survey feel that the definition of 'I don't know' and 'maybe' are basically the same?)

I'd keep them separate.

Are you thinking that we should have both responses available: maybe and I don't know?

Yes, if those with more knowledge of human factors than me don't think that would be too complicated.

Sep 25 2017, 8:08 PM · Discovery-Search, Discovery

Sep 24 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T176428: Search Relevance test #4 - action items.

Is "maybe" going to go into the same bucket that "i don't know" has gone into? They aren't quite the same.

They're not quite the same, but I'm not sure that that distinction is made outside of our team (i.e. do users of the survey feel that the definition of 'I don't know' and 'maybe' are basically the same?)

Sep 24 2017, 12:26 PM · Discovery-Search, Discovery

Sep 19 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T171740: [Epic] Search Relevance: graded by humans.

An obvious link to documentation, starting with a "what is this?", and a link to somewhere to leave feedback (optional) about the survey would be useful (I forget how I found the phab ticket, but it did involve a google search).
A fourth option to click on - "I want to answer in more words" would be great for people like me, but it would need to avoid the issues of the article feedback tool (alas I can't offer any suggestions how to do this off the top of my head).

Sep 19 2017, 11:07 PM · Discovery-Search, Epic, Discovery
Thryduulf added a comment to T174106: Search Relevance Survey test #3: action items.

@TJones Thanks for the response, the situation now is:
*Naval flag is a disambiguation page listing Maritime flag, Naval ensign and Naval jack with a see also to the new Lists of naval flags (it was previously a redirect to Maritime flag).
*Naval flags redirects to the naval flag disambiguation
*Lists of naval flags is a new list of lists (anyone with knowledge of the topic is encouraged to expand this!)
*List of naval flags redirects to the list of lists.

Sep 19 2017, 2:02 PM · Discovery-Search, MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-26 (1.31.0-wmf.1)), Discovery

Sep 17 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T135667: Please put templates on separate lines (when it won't break things) and don't (when it will).

When a template on its own line is moved within a page, it should be placed on its own line at the new location. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_presidential_eligibility_legislation&diff=801114094&oldid=797558629

Sep 17 2017, 7:16 PM · User-notice, User-Ryasmeen, Patch-For-Review, TemplateData, Parsoid, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor

Sep 15 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T175684: Please create the Edit filter helper user group on en.wp.

Can these be created before the group exists or is it best to wait?

Sep 15 2017, 11:34 PM · User-MarcoAurelio, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Sep 12 2017

Thryduulf renamed T175684: Please create the Edit filter helper user group on en.wp from Please create the Edit filter helper user group on en.w[ to Please create the Edit filter helper user group on en.wp.
Sep 12 2017, 1:09 PM · User-MarcoAurelio, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Thryduulf created T175684: Please create the Edit filter helper user group on en.wp.
Sep 12 2017, 1:09 PM · User-MarcoAurelio, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Thryduulf added a comment to T174106: Search Relevance Survey test #3: action items.

I've just stumbled across this and can't find anywhere to leave feedback about it - please point me to somewhere else if you don't want it here.

Sep 12 2017, 10:15 AM · Discovery-Search, MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-26 (1.31.0-wmf.1)), Discovery

Aug 25 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T173977: AbuseFilter tripping more times than it should, and for the wrong edit, and not tagging.

@Lourdes as a non-admin you would presently require the "edit filter manager" right (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter#User_right ), for which you need to make a request at the edit filter noticeboard.

Aug 25 2017, 11:37 AM · AbuseFilter

Aug 23 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T172861: VisualEditor: Provide an indication that a link is piped without requiring mouseover.

The goal of this is to see which links are piped without needing to interact with them.

Aug 23 2017, 8:42 PM · VisualEditor

Aug 22 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T138166: Allow users to restrict who can send them direct emails via Special:EmailUser.

More as a reminder for when the documentation page gets written for this after implementation than anything more urguent, but it might be worthwhile to note that there are ways a restricted user can find out they are specifically restricted, including (but not necessarily limited to):

  • sockpuppet accounts
  • {{you've got mail}} and similar messages on user talk pages
  • the restricting user asking third parties to email them
Aug 22 2017, 4:51 PM · MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), Anti-Harassment (AHT Sprint 5), Patch-For-Review, Trust-and-Safety, Mail, MediaWiki-Email

Aug 16 2017

Thryduulf created T173455: Visual Editor: Don't remove line break between templates when adding a third template.
Aug 16 2017, 7:49 PM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates

Aug 9 2017

Thryduulf created T172861: VisualEditor: Provide an indication that a link is piped without requiring mouseover.
Aug 9 2017, 10:33 AM · VisualEditor
Thryduulf added a comment to T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text.

I'm really not at all sure that the actual benefits of this task to the people who are at the sharp end are actually understood by the developers. There is a reason that this has been resurrected at least twice, has at least four duplicate tasks, and the requests for it continue more than 5 years after it was first requested. Indeed this is one of just two tasks (T51969 is the other, and this is far more important than that) that are standing between where we are now and VE being intuitively easy for both new and power editors to use simply and reliably for non-specialist editing in almost all reasonable circumstances without making unforced errors.

Aug 9 2017, 10:11 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Aug 4 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text.

When you want to change the label, can't you just change the label text without opening the link editor?

The problem is that when you do that you could be intending to change the label without the link or you could be intending to change both label and link. There is no way for the software to know which you intend, and no way for the naive user to know which has actually happened without actively opening the link editor, but it is likely that the assumption will be that both were changed (per @Whatamidoing-WMF). Remember that VE is focused towards inexperienced and less-computer-literate users rather than power users, so there will be a very high proportion of users who do not know that you need to actively check what VE is doing.

Aug 4 2017, 8:24 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Jun 29 2017

Krinkle awarded T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text a Orange Medal token.
Jun 29 2017, 9:53 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Jun 20 2017

petr.matas awarded T53736: Consider changing wikipage redirects to be proper HTTP redirects a Like token.
Jun 20 2017, 10:12 PM · Core Platform Team, Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, TechCom-RFC (TechCom-Approved), User-notice, MediaWiki-Redirects

Jun 18 2017

Kaartic awarded T53736: Consider changing wikipage redirects to be proper HTTP redirects a Like token.
Jun 18 2017, 7:59 AM · Core Platform Team, Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, TechCom-RFC (TechCom-Approved), User-notice, MediaWiki-Redirects

Jun 17 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T167902: Build a unified, cross-wiki Mute feature for multiple types of on-wiki and email communication.

Continuing the example from the opening comment, Apples should also see notifications from Bananas related to fr.wp when they visit meta, if they (a) have not blacklisted Bananas meta, and
(b) have cross-wiki notifications enabled.

Jun 17 2017, 8:14 AM · Growth-Team, Anti-Harassment, User-notice-collaboration, User-notice, Trust-and-Safety, Notifications

May 18 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T165676: Search results for strings including semicolons should find page titles/namespaces with colons in the same position.

@Aklapper if that is what generates the search results in Wikipedia's internal search engine, then yes.

May 18 2017, 4:54 PM · Discovery, CirrusSearch, Discovery-Search
Thryduulf added a comment to T165676: Search results for strings including semicolons should find page titles/namespaces with colons in the same position.

This is being discussed currently at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#.3B_as_a_typo_for_shortcuts

May 18 2017, 2:21 PM · Discovery, CirrusSearch, Discovery-Search
Thryduulf created T165676: Search results for strings including semicolons should find page titles/namespaces with colons in the same position.
May 18 2017, 2:19 PM · Discovery, CirrusSearch, Discovery-Search

May 1 2017

Thryduulf added a comment to T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text.

Well that news is a big disaapointment as the inability to quickly, easily, reliably and unambiguously change the destination the destination and/or description of a link is the biggest single impediment to Visual Editor.

May 1 2017, 12:41 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools
Thryduulf added a comment to T51969: OOUI: Dialogs should be repositionable/draggable.

When editing in VE I sometimes have to load a duplicate copy of the page in a new tab so that I can see what I'm doing.

May 1 2017, 12:33 AM · Epic, OOUI

Nov 2 2016

Elitre awarded T55973: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text a Love token.
Nov 2 2016, 1:45 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools

Sep 13 2016

Krinkle awarded T54448: Transclusion dialog should not suggest documentation sub pages as templates a Orange Medal token.
Sep 13 2016, 2:03 AM · MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.16; 2019-02-05), VisualEditor (Current work), User-notice, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, VisualEditor-EditingTools