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Recent Activity

Today

WMDE-Fisch placed T440243: 0️⃣ Global rollout - Sub-ref deployments to group 2 wikis (batch 4) up for grabs.
Wed, Oct 14, 7:28 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite (Sub-referencing), WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch moved T440243: 0️⃣ Global rollout - Sub-ref deployments to group 2 wikis (batch 4) from Tech Review to Demo on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Wed, Oct 14, 7:28 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite (Sub-referencing), WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch updated the task description for T404421: [Bug] List-defined refs only used inside of a template are removed by visual editor.
Wed, Oct 14, 5:28 AM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-09-16-Green-Tea-Icecream, Patch-For-Review, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Cite, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-09-03-Salted-Caramel-Icecream, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References
WMDE-Fisch closed T404421: [Bug] List-defined refs only used inside of a template are removed by visual editor as Resolved.

Just cleaning up, this issue is fixed for some time now.

Wed, Oct 14, 5:28 AM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-09-16-Green-Tea-Icecream, Patch-For-Review, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Cite, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-09-03-Salted-Caramel-Icecream, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References
WMDE-Fisch closed T404421: [Bug] List-defined refs only used inside of a template are removed by visual editor, a subtask of T356471: The VisualEditor cannot add or remove list-defined references, as Resolved.
Wed, Oct 14, 5:28 AM · Community-Wishlist, Patch-Needs-Improvement, MW-1.45-notes (1.45.0-wmf.18; 2025-09-09), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-09-03-Salted-Caramel-Icecream, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References
WMDE-Fisch claimed T439362: 4️⃣ Introduce size limit for downloading URL sources.
Wed, Oct 14, 5:12 AM · Patch-For-Review, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Citoid
WMDE-Fisch moved T439362: 4️⃣ Introduce size limit for downloading URL sources from Sprint Backlog to Doing on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Wed, Oct 14, 5:12 AM · Patch-For-Review, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Citoid
WMDE-Fisch placed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) up for grabs.
Wed, Oct 14, 5:11 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite

Yesterday

WMDE-Fisch moved T435189: Remove footnote click intent experiment code from Incoming to Dev ready for sprint on the WMDE-TechWish (product board) board.
Tue, Oct 13, 1:02 PM · WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch closed T383969: Use explicit numbers in reference lists and legacy parser rendering, a subtask of T434840: [Epic] Render explicit footnote numbers in reference lists everywhere, as Declined.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:28 PM · Patch-For-Review, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea, Epic
WMDE-Fisch closed T383969: Use explicit numbers in reference lists and legacy parser rendering as Declined.

We should not bring explicit numbering to the legacy parser. Parsoid is currently rolled out to more and more projects as default parser and the legacy parser will eventually be sunsetted.

Tue, Oct 13, 12:28 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-01-08, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch renamed T378570: [Epic] Render references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles from [Epic] Render references list without relying order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles to [Epic] Render references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:17 PM · Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea, Epic
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T411472: Sub-reference numbers are displayed incorrectly in the reference list in (some?) mobile browsers: T378570: [Epic] Render references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:16 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-01-06-New-Year-Donuts, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-12-09-Christmas-Cookie, Sub-referencing (product board), WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing)
WMDE-Fisch removed a parent task for T378570: [Epic] Render references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles: T411472: Sub-reference numbers are displayed incorrectly in the reference list in (some?) mobile browsers.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:16 PM · Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea, Epic
WMDE-Fisch renamed T383681: Render VE references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles from Clean up visual editor reference list explicit numbering to Render VE references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:16 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-01-08, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T378570: [Epic] Render references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles: T383681: Render VE references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:12 PM · Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea, Epic
WMDE-Fisch added a parent task for T383681: Render VE references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles: T378570: [Epic] Render references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:12 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-01-08, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch renamed T383972: Proof of concept for grid-like replacement for order lists with <li> from Lay out grid-like replacement for reflist <li> to Proof of concept for grid-like replacement for order lists with <li>.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:12 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-01-08, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch renamed T378570: [Epic] Render references list without relying on order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles from [Epic] Render references list in read mode, without relying on browser <li> to [Epic] Render references list without relying order lists with <li> and CSS marker styles.
Tue, Oct 13, 12:09 PM · Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea, Epic
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T369275: [Epic] Sub-reference numbering needs to work with different local numbering types: T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M).
Tue, Oct 13, 11:40 AM · Patch-For-Review, Cite (Sub-referencing), Epic, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch edited parent tasks for T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M), added: T369275: [Epic] Sub-reference numbering needs to work with different local numbering types; removed: T434840: [Epic] Render explicit footnote numbers in reference lists everywhere.
Tue, Oct 13, 11:40 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T434840: [Epic] Render explicit footnote numbers in reference lists everywhere: T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M).
Tue, Oct 13, 11:40 AM · Patch-For-Review, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea, Epic
WMDE-Fisch renamed T440972: Better support for custom pre- and suffixes with sub-refs on reference list numbers from Better support for custom pre- and suffixes sub-refs on reference list numbers to Better support for custom pre- and suffixes with sub-refs on reference list numbers.
Tue, Oct 13, 11:39 AM · Cite (Sub-referencing)
WMDE-Fisch updated the task description for T369275: [Epic] Sub-reference numbering needs to work with different local numbering types.
Tue, Oct 13, 11:38 AM · Patch-For-Review, Cite (Sub-referencing), Epic, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch created T440972: Better support for custom pre- and suffixes with sub-refs on reference list numbers.
Tue, Oct 13, 11:37 AM · Cite (Sub-referencing)
WMDE-Fisch updated the task description for T369275: [Epic] Sub-reference numbering needs to work with different local numbering types.
Tue, Oct 13, 9:55 AM · Patch-For-Review, Cite (Sub-referencing), Epic, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch renamed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) from 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) to 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M).
Tue, Oct 13, 9:32 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch moved T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) from Doing to Tech Review on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Tue, Oct 13, 9:02 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch moved T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing from Demo to Done on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Tue, Oct 13, 8:59 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch placed T439842: 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names up for grabs.
Tue, Oct 13, 8:59 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Community-Wishlist, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch moved T439842: 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names from Tech Review to Demo on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Tue, Oct 13, 8:59 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Community-Wishlist, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch closed T424060: Flaky Cite Cypress test: win.mw.Api().postWithEditToken failing as Invalid.
Tue, Oct 13, 5:22 AM · Browser-Tests, ci-test-error (WMF-deployed Build Failure), VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch added a comment to T424060: Flaky Cite Cypress test: win.mw.Api().postWithEditToken failing.

I'm assuming this is not happening anymore. I'll close the ticket. Feel free to re-open or create a new one if you think otherwise.

Tue, Oct 13, 5:22 AM · Browser-Tests, ci-test-error (WMF-deployed Build Failure), VisualEditor

Mon, Oct 12

WMDE-Fisch merged T358006: [refactor] Clean up internal key for references in Cite visual editor into T363096: [Refactor] Get rid of "auto/<#>" and "literal/<name>" internal ref IDs.
Mon, Oct 12, 6:49 PM · MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.6; 2024-05-21), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-05-08, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-04-24, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, WMDE-TechWish-Maintenance, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-04-12, Cite
WMDE-Fisch merged task T358006: [refactor] Clean up internal key for references in Cite visual editor into T363096: [Refactor] Get rid of "auto/<#>" and "literal/<name>" internal ref IDs.
Mon, Oct 12, 6:49 PM · Essential-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch closed T354335: UX-led investigation: How can we improve VE autonaming of references as Invalid.

I assume this ticket can be closed due to the current work we're wrapping up in T430051: [Super Epic] Improve Visual Editor auto-generated reference names.

Mon, Oct 12, 6:40 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-02-15, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-31, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-17, Design, WMDE-Design, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-04, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch closed T103415: Re-use of a named <ref> inside a <references> block renames it in the body but not inside the <references> as Resolved.

Nowadays it's not possible to change a ref or re-use a ref that's defined inside <references> in VE anymore. So I think, the issue cannot be reproduced and I would assume its fixed. If something like this appears again feel free to re-open.

Mon, Oct 12, 6:30 PM · WMDE-References-FocusArea, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch removed a watcher for wikidiff2: WMDE-Fisch.
Mon, Oct 12, 12:23 PM
WMDE-Fisch claimed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M).
Mon, Oct 12, 8:59 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch moved T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) from Tech Review to Doing on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Mon, Oct 12, 8:59 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch moved T439842: 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names from Doing to Tech Review on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Mon, Oct 12, 8:59 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Community-Wishlist, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch moved T439842: 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names from Sprint Backlog to Doing on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Mon, Oct 12, 8:54 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Community-Wishlist, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch claimed T439842: 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names.
Mon, Oct 12, 8:54 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Community-Wishlist, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch placed T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing up for grabs.
Mon, Oct 12, 8:53 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch moved T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing from Tech Review to Demo on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Mon, Oct 12, 8:53 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears

Fri, Oct 9

WMDE-Fisch placed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) up for grabs.
Fri, Oct 9, 9:10 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch moved T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) from Doing to Tech Review on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Fri, Oct 9, 9:10 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch updated the task description for T439542: 3️⃣ Add basic e2e test for better autonames feature (M).
Fri, Oct 9, 8:16 AM · Patch-For-Review, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears

Thu, Oct 8

WMDE-Fisch updated subscribers of T438932: New Scroll Request for: Citoid PDF Parsing Service.

@MLechvien-WMF I'm the one for this one. I was planning go start going over things next week.

Thu, Oct 8, 2:53 PM · OKR-Work (DE1 FY2026-27), WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-TechWish, SCROLL
WMDE-Fisch claimed T440243: 0️⃣ Global rollout - Sub-ref deployments to group 2 wikis (batch 4).
Thu, Oct 8, 1:03 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite (Sub-referencing), WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch moved T440243: 0️⃣ Global rollout - Sub-ref deployments to group 2 wikis (batch 4) from Sprint Backlog to Tech Review on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Thu, Oct 8, 1:02 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite (Sub-referencing), WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch removed a project from T439790: References' footnote numbers no longer display on en.Wiktionary.org: Patch-For-Review.
Thu, Oct 8, 12:53 PM · MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite
WMDE-Fisch moved T439683: 1️⃣ Create list of happy path and test them (M) from PM/UX Review to Done on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Thu, Oct 8, 12:52 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch renamed T439842: 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names from Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names to 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names.
Thu, Oct 8, 12:51 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Community-Wishlist, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch moved T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing from Doing to Tech Review on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Thu, Oct 8, 12:47 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch changed the status of T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing, a subtask of T439842: 1️⃣ Deployment: Visual Editor auto-generated reference names, from Stalled to Open.
Thu, Oct 8, 11:49 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Community-Wishlist, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch changed the status of T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing from Stalled to Open.
Thu, Oct 8, 11:49 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch moved T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing from Sprint Backlog to Doing on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Thu, Oct 8, 11:48 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch moved T440243: 0️⃣ Global rollout - Sub-ref deployments to group 2 wikis (batch 4) from Doing to Sprint Backlog on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Thu, Oct 8, 11:48 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite (Sub-referencing), WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch moved T440243: 0️⃣ Global rollout - Sub-ref deployments to group 2 wikis (batch 4) from Sprint Backlog to Doing on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Thu, Oct 8, 11:48 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite (Sub-referencing), WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch moved T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) from Tech Review to Doing on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Thu, Oct 8, 7:53 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch placed T436255: 1️⃣ Community Configuration: Enable admins to turn on the new Visual Editor auto-generated reference names for their wikis (M) up for grabs.
Thu, Oct 8, 7:49 AM · MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.24; 2026-10-13), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-08-25-juicy-nectarines, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch claimed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M).
Thu, Oct 8, 7:48 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite

Wed, Oct 7

WMDE-Fisch created T440431: Better support for custom group markers in sub-refs.
Wed, Oct 7, 8:32 AM · Patch-For-Review, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing)
WMDE-Fisch renamed T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing from Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing to 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing.
Wed, Oct 7, 7:22 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch placed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) up for grabs.
Wed, Oct 7, 7:21 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch renamed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M) from 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers in reference lists and Parsoid rendering (M) to 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M).
Wed, Oct 7, 7:21 AM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite

Tue, Oct 6

WMDE-Fisch added a comment to T389365: Reference in a custom group with missing references list causes bad display in VE.

Just changed the task a bit, the issue seems not sub-ref specific.

Tue, Oct 6, 4:07 PM · Cite, MW-1.44-notes (1.44.0-wmf.24; 2025-04-08), Patch-For-Review, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-04-02, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-03-19
WMDE-Fisch renamed T389365: Reference in a custom group with missing references list causes bad display in VE from Sub-reference in a custom group with missing references list causes bad display in VE to Reference in a custom group with missing references list causes bad display in VE.
Tue, Oct 6, 4:07 PM · Cite, MW-1.44-notes (1.44.0-wmf.24; 2025-04-08), Patch-For-Review, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-04-02, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2025-03-19
WMDE-Fisch added a project to T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing: WMDE-References-FocusArea.
Tue, Oct 6, 3:32 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch created T440357: 1️⃣ Enable Autonames on group0 wikis for testing.
Tue, Oct 6, 3:31 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears
WMDE-Fisch claimed T434621: 2️⃣ Use explicit numbers for sub-refs in reference lists CSS and Parsoid rendering (M).
Tue, Oct 6, 2:44 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.22; 2026-09-29), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish (product board), Cite (Sub-referencing), Cite
WMDE-Fisch added a project to T440243: 0️⃣ Global rollout - Sub-ref deployments to group 2 wikis (batch 4): WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears.

Should be prepared independent of the current sprint length.

Tue, Oct 6, 2:43 PM · Unplanned-Sprint-Work, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, Cite (Sub-referencing), WMDE-TechWish (product board)
WMDE-Fisch claimed T436255: 1️⃣ Community Configuration: Enable admins to turn on the new Visual Editor auto-generated reference names for their wikis (M).
Tue, Oct 6, 9:03 AM · MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.24; 2026-10-13), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-08-25-juicy-nectarines, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea

Mon, Oct 5

WMDE-Fisch moved T436255: 1️⃣ Community Configuration: Enable admins to turn on the new Visual Editor auto-generated reference names for their wikis (M) from Epics / Watching / Stalled to Tech Review on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Mon, Oct 5, 11:23 AM · MW-1.47-notes (1.47.0-wmf.24; 2026-10-13), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-08-25-juicy-nectarines, WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch added a comment to T343392: Re-using reference caused cite-error.

I believe the issue is caused by VE's issues with references inside of templates: T52474 / T350064 / T405156

Looking at the article's wikitext there is {{efn|As catalogued in 1976 by the Rao scale.<ref name=":0">{{cite book | vauthors = Rao AR | date = 1972 | title = Smallpox | edition = 1st | location = Bombay | publisher = Kothari Book Depot | oclc = 723806 }}</ref>}} – the reference is not visible when editing the page in VisualEditor due to the issues linked above. When re-using another reference, VE simply isn't aware that <ref name=":0"> is already in use (because it's in a template) and therefore uses that name instead of <ref name=":1">

Simplified example reproducing the issue: https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedysta%3AJohannes_Richter_%28WMDE%29%2Fbrudnopis&diff=79965477&oldid=79965473

Mon, Oct 5, 10:02 AM · WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch merged T343392: Re-using reference caused cite-error into T215867: Visual editor reference auto name may collide with existing ref names when the existing reference comes from a template tranclusion.
Mon, Oct 5, 10:00 AM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-02-15, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-31, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-17, WMDE-References-FocusArea, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch merged task T343392: Re-using reference caused cite-error into T215867: Visual editor reference auto name may collide with existing ref names when the existing reference comes from a template tranclusion.
Mon, Oct 5, 10:00 AM · WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch added a parent task for T198477: [he.wiki] Reference list is emptied when adding a new reference on a wiki that uses template generated references (not <ref> tags): T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:58 AM · VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates: T198477: [he.wiki] Reference list is emptied when adding a new reference on a wiki that uses template generated references (not <ref> tags).
Mon, Oct 5, 9:58 AM · Epic, VisualEditor, Cite
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T96508: T52474 causes templated refs used multiple times to appear blank: T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text..
Mon, Oct 5, 9:58 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Parsoid, ContentTranslation, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-DataModel
WMDE-Fisch edited parent tasks for T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text., added: T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates; removed: T200786: Better support for References in Content Translation (epic), T198477: [he.wiki] Reference list is emptied when adding a new reference on a wiki that uses template generated references (not <ref> tags), T96508: T52474 causes templated refs used multiple times to appear blank.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:58 AM · Community-Wishlist, Cite, Epic, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-DataModel
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T198477: [he.wiki] Reference list is emptied when adding a new reference on a wiki that uses template generated references (not <ref> tags): T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text..
Mon, Oct 5, 9:58 AM · VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates: T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text..
Mon, Oct 5, 9:58 AM · Epic, VisualEditor, Cite
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T200786: Better support for References in Content Translation (epic): T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text..
Mon, Oct 5, 9:58 AM · Tracking-Neverending, ContentTranslation
WMDE-Fisch added a parent task for T215867: Visual editor reference auto name may collide with existing ref names when the existing reference comes from a template tranclusion: T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:56 AM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-02-15, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-31, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-17, WMDE-References-FocusArea, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates: T215867: Visual editor reference auto name may collide with existing ref names when the existing reference comes from a template tranclusion.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:56 AM · Epic, VisualEditor, Cite
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text.: T355858: References from template transclusions should be included (read-only) in the internalList.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:56 AM · Community-Wishlist, Cite, Epic, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-DataModel
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T215867: Visual editor reference auto name may collide with existing ref names when the existing reference comes from a template tranclusion: T355858: References from template transclusions should be included (read-only) in the internalList.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:56 AM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-02-15, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-31, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-17, WMDE-References-FocusArea, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch edited parent tasks for T355858: References from template transclusions should be included (read-only) in the internalList, added: T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates; removed: T215867: Visual editor reference auto name may collide with existing ref names when the existing reference comes from a template tranclusion, T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text..
Mon, Oct 5, 9:56 AM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-02-15, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2024-01-31, WMDE-TechWish, VisualEditor, Cite, WMDE-References-FocusArea
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates: T355858: References from template transclusions should be included (read-only) in the internalList.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:56 AM · Epic, VisualEditor, Cite
WMDE-Fisch added a parent task for T404608: Parsoid should provide top-level information about elements within templates: T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:54 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, Cite, VisualEditor, Parsoid
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates: T404608: Parsoid should provide top-level information about elements within templates.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:54 AM · Epic, VisualEditor, Cite
WMDE-Fisch removed a subtask for T404608: Parsoid should provide top-level information about elements within templates: T350064: References defined in templates disappear or render differently in Edit mode compared to Read mode.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:54 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, Cite, VisualEditor, Parsoid
WMDE-Fisch edited parent tasks for T350064: References defined in templates disappear or render differently in Edit mode compared to Read mode, added: T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates; removed: T404608: Parsoid should provide top-level information about elements within templates.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:54 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, VisualEditor
WMDE-Fisch added a subtask for T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates: T350064: References defined in templates disappear or render differently in Edit mode compared to Read mode.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:54 AM · Epic, VisualEditor, Cite
WMDE-Fisch created T440167: [Epic] VE incompatiblities with refs defined in templates.
Mon, Oct 5, 9:52 AM · Epic, VisualEditor, Cite
WMDE-Fisch renamed T436849: Investigation: Citoid omits article publication date for German news outlet (maybe for others, too) from Citoid omits article publication date for German news outlet (maybe for others, too) to Investigation: Citoid omits article publication date for German news outlet (maybe for others, too).
Mon, Oct 5, 8:19 AM · WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea, Citoid
WMDE-Fisch updated the task description for T436849: Investigation: Citoid omits article publication date for German news outlet (maybe for others, too).
Mon, Oct 5, 8:18 AM · WMDE-TechWish (product board), WMDE-References-FocusArea, Citoid

Tue, Sep 29

WMDE-Fisch moved T438131: Update docker environment for autoname increment 2 from Sprint Backlog to Tech Review on the WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears board.
Tue, Sep 29, 2:34 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-29-Pretty-Pears, WMDE-References-FocusArea, WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2026-09-15-Fragrant-Pineapple