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Thu, Jan 9

XanonymusX added a comment to T241933: Simple page transclusions are wrongly treated as templates in VisualEditor.

Well, calling something a template when it’s not does look wrong to me. Plus, if it can’t be edited, giving users an edit dialogue is very misleading as well. Sure, there are several templates without parameters; but at least with page transclusions from other namespaces that should be obvious enough to be treated differently by the VE. I would expect a dialogue that just says something like “This content is generated by ‘page name’. You can edit it directly on that page.” (with proper linking, obviously). Or leave it as it is and let the “edit” button directly open the other page in a new tab? Something like that, I would think. Page transclusions can never have a “description”, so that note is also very misleading. Since this way of transcluding pages in discographies is standard on deWP, it’s not a small issue; and as far as I know, there are many lists and disambiguations that are composed of transcluded parts as well.

Thu, Jan 9, 12:38 PM · VisualEditor
XanonymusX added a comment to T40724: VisualEditor: Automatically use "smart quotes" and convert other typing to more advance characters (as an option).

Hm, fair enough. Sounds a bit English-centered, but I get that the number of potentially supported/affected languages is a fact that should not be overlooked. I am indeed using Schnark’s tool and it works fine overall (except for single quotation marks, but even MS Word still can’t deal with those, so I guess there is no proper solution), also for other languages than German. As always with such tools, I just do believe that they would be most useful for new editors, and like this there is a only a small chance that they would find out about and start using it by themselves. That leaves us once again with lots of unnecessary corrections all over the articles. Furthermore, with every year that passes, the chance that some wikis might want to start “enforcing” proper typography is diminishing; I had a long discussion on itWP years ago about the issue and it was clear that without a generally available autocorrect function nobody would be willing to change the typography rules. I guess with autocorrect available from the beginning, even the (to say the least: debatable) MoS rule on enWP would not exist in this form.

Thu, Jan 9, 12:22 PM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-ContentEditable

Sun, Jan 5

XanonymusX added a comment to T40724: VisualEditor: Automatically use "smart quotes" and convert other typing to more advance characters (as an option).

We have several user scripts that do exactly what is requested here. Maybe take some ideas from them? The feature should be available for everyone and would prevent a lot of unnecessary typographical corrections.

Sun, Jan 5, 11:27 AM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-ContentEditable
XanonymusX added a comment to T212085: TemplateStyles not loaded in NWE preview.

Anything happening here? Lately I find myself always switching editors whenever I have to work with templates. That slows down the workflow quite a bit.

Sun, Jan 5, 11:19 AM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, TemplateStyles
XanonymusX added a comment to T212610: Weird CSS tooltip behaviour on iOS devices.

Update: I still haven't found the JS that fixes the problem on the mobile version; but I just noticed that the WP iOS app apparently does not follow the example, there the tooltips are still sticky. I would expect at least the iOS app to be specially designed for dealing with such known iOS bugs. Very confusing, but it shouldn't be impossible to fix this for all versions and devices.

Sun, Jan 5, 11:18 AM · MediaWiki-General, CSS
XanonymusX added a comment to T222318: Cursor position jumps when starting to edit on tablet.

Problem still there. Very annoying on large pages. Anything happening?

Sun, Jan 5, 11:12 AM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
XanonymusX created T241933: Simple page transclusions are wrongly treated as templates in VisualEditor.
Sun, Jan 5, 11:05 AM · VisualEditor

Dec 26 2019

XanonymusX removed a project from T241468: Mobile talk page does not work with wikilinks in section titles: Advanced Mobile Contributions.
Dec 26 2019, 6:31 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, MobileFrontend
XanonymusX created T241468: Mobile talk page does not work with wikilinks in section titles.
Dec 26 2019, 5:58 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, MobileFrontend

Dec 13 2019

XanonymusX added a comment to T237246: Note about flagged revisions in German WIkipedia needs hide option.

Alright then. Would be lovely if there was a FlaggedRevs maintainer, otherwise I see various similar problems arising with future layout changes. I will ask for a local solution on German WP now; in the meantime I got rid of the box via my common.css for mobile screens only, so I can continue to use the watchlist without seeing the same old warning every time.

Dec 13 2019, 11:34 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Advanced Mobile Contributions
XanonymusX added a comment to T237246: Note about flagged revisions in German WIkipedia needs hide option.

If I understood @Zache correctly though, it's the same for Finnish (thus not German WP exclusive)?! Anyway, it looks like the current design has been discussed extensively, but obviously without mobile-specific considerations.

Dec 13 2019, 8:28 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Advanced Mobile Contributions
XanonymusX added a comment to T126308: Scribunto console is in English instead of the site language.

Stumbled across this problem when I tried to load localised data from a Data Table on Commons and in the console I never got the data I expected to get. I agree that the current state is not at all user-friendly.

Dec 13 2019, 3:22 PM · I18n, MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
XanonymusX added a comment to T237246: Note about flagged revisions in German WIkipedia needs hide option.

Oh, I see, looks like the box is limited to non-English messages. With English as my user language I also just see the one-line note. Not sure why, where is the localised version of the message stored?

Dec 13 2019, 11:38 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Advanced Mobile Contributions
XanonymusX added a comment to T237246: Note about flagged revisions in German WIkipedia needs hide option.

I'm seeing this now, but it's not hideable, so I'm guessing this is a gadget that's not been made compatible on mobile.. is that possible cc @XanonymusX,?

Dec 13 2019, 1:46 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Advanced Mobile Contributions

Nov 5 2019

XanonymusX added a comment to T237246: Note about flagged revisions in German WIkipedia needs hide option.

Ideally, the bar should be formatted similarly to the "active filters" one; right now it even causes some overflow in the desktop version (when there are other banners on top).

Nov 5 2019, 9:34 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Advanced Mobile Contributions

Nov 4 2019

XanonymusX added a comment to T237246: Note about flagged revisions in German WIkipedia needs hide option.

Well, you won't be able to reproduce it unless you actually have pending flagged revisions on your watchlist. You can try watching https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parlamentswahl_in_Norwegen_2017 , as an example.

Nov 4 2019, 3:16 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Advanced Mobile Contributions
XanonymusX added a comment to T237244: OOUI buttons with large labels breaks width of several special pages in mobile view.

Well, the iPod touch is supposed to be 1136*640 px (per https://www.apple.com/lae/ipod-touch/specs/ ); as I said, it is indeed the smallest screen size available to me, and I usually test everything on it.

Nov 4 2019, 12:30 PM · OOUI, Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), Advanced Mobile Contributions
XanonymusX created T237246: Note about flagged revisions in German WIkipedia needs hide option.
Nov 4 2019, 11:31 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Advanced Mobile Contributions
XanonymusX created T237244: OOUI buttons with large labels breaks width of several special pages in mobile view.
Nov 4 2019, 11:22 AM · OOUI, Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), Advanced Mobile Contributions

Nov 1 2019

XanonymusX added a comment to T235414: Deploy core version of watchlist for AMC users.

Yeah, in my case there were some very long web links in summaries. But even if I get rid of those, the initial buttons are still way too large (at least in German) for the screen size. I’m using iOS and testing it now on the smallest screen possible (I guess), on the iPod touch.

Nov 1 2019, 1:11 PM · MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.4; 2019-10-29), Wikimedia-Site-requests, Advanced Mobile Contributions, Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2019-20-Q2)
XanonymusX added a comment to T235414: Deploy core version of watchlist for AMC users.

After this change, my watchlist is more than double the width of my screen! Apparently neither the size of the buttons nor the length of edit summaries can fit the screen size. Should I open a new task for that? It needs to be fixed asap, the watchlist is barely usable like this.

Nov 1 2019, 11:03 AM · MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.4; 2019-10-29), Wikimedia-Site-requests, Advanced Mobile Contributions, Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2019-20-Q2)

Aug 27 2019

XanonymusX added a comment to T231160: HtmlFormatter incorrectly removes partial matches for elements with hyphens.

Alright, I have now added a warning to the German WP project pages. In my case I have simply renamed the class in hidemobile for the moment.

Aug 27 2019, 1:56 PM · Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), RemexHtml, MediaWiki-General, CSS

Aug 25 2019

XanonymusX created T231160: HtmlFormatter incorrectly removes partial matches for elements with hyphens.
Aug 25 2019, 12:20 PM · Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), RemexHtml, MediaWiki-General, CSS

Jul 14 2019

XanonymusX added a comment to T227852: Copying and pasting table cell is broken in VisualEditor.

This is incredibly annoying; even Wikipedians most critical about VE have always admitted that it is a good way to work with tables. Now not even that works anymore, it's so frustrating! At the moment apparently I have no way to copy and paste table columns.

Jul 14 2019, 6:45 PM · Skipped QA, MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.15; 2019-07-23), Regression, VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-CopyPaste

May 2 2019

XanonymusX created T222318: Cursor position jumps when starting to edit on tablet.
May 2 2019, 12:02 AM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor

Jan 31 2019

XanonymusX created T215002: New paragraph before section heading becomes line break.
Jan 31 2019, 1:06 AM · VisualEditor, Parsoid-Edit-Support

Dec 28 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T212610: Weird CSS tooltip behaviour on iOS devices.

So I created this testing environment, using only the tooltip-related styles: http://danu-talis.bplaced.net/tooltip-test.html (first with the styles I use on testwiki, then with the ones I use on German WP). You are right, it behaves exactly like it does in MediaWiki environment. Btw, I also found out that when using Firefox on iOS, the sticky tooltips problem is resolved, but the caption still jumps.

Dec 28 2018, 10:18 PM · MediaWiki-General, CSS
XanonymusX added a comment to T212610: Weird CSS tooltip behaviour on iOS devices.

I don't know, but I would guess that these sites have implemented something that makes it work, either intentionally or accidentally. Maybe they have a global click event handler for some reason, making everything "clickable", or maybe they override something about scrolling that accidentally changes what tapping does.
If you want to prove it's a MediaWiki problem, please create a small stand-alone .html file that implements the same feature and does not have the problems.

Dec 28 2018, 5:59 PM · MediaWiki-General, CSS
XanonymusX added a comment to T212610: Weird CSS tooltip behaviour on iOS devices.

Thanks for looking into it! Well, if it is a general iOS problem, why doesn’t it happen on the external website and why only in WP desktop version and not in mobile version? Otherwise I wouldn’t have asked it here. And the caption jumping is definitely not a Safari bug, since it also happens in Chrome; furthermore, I would expect to find trace of such a bug on some other support/discussion site if it were a general one (probably captions are not that often used, but still). So I’m not convinced that there is nothing to do on the side of MediaWiki.

Dec 28 2018, 3:47 PM · MediaWiki-General, CSS

Dec 26 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T212610: Weird CSS tooltip behaviour on iOS devices.

On iOS usually with Safari, but I also tried Chrome (same behaviour).

Dec 26 2018, 2:33 PM · MediaWiki-General, CSS

Dec 25 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T212610: Weird CSS tooltip behaviour on iOS devices.

Well, as described above, the exact same HTML/CSS apparently works fine on the external website I have linked, the problems are only visible in MediaWiki (I have tested German WP and Testwiki). I can also try it on my personal website, if further testing is required, but the different behaviour on the website that presents the code explicitly as a generally applicable demo seems proof enough to me.

Dec 25 2018, 1:32 PM · MediaWiki-General, CSS
XanonymusX created T212610: Weird CSS tooltip behaviour on iOS devices.
Dec 25 2018, 11:59 AM · MediaWiki-General, CSS

Dec 16 2018

XanonymusX created T212085: TemplateStyles not loaded in NWE preview.
Dec 16 2018, 1:23 PM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, TemplateStyles

Oct 17 2018

XanonymusX created T207303: Templates & wikilink-in-extlink scenarios: Parsoid breaks about-id continuity.
Oct 17 2018, 4:42 PM · Parsoid-Read-Views

Oct 16 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T153367: Support "Preview page with this template" (TemplateSandbox) in the new wikitext editor.

Is anything happening here? I have made a lot of unnecessary template edits already because of the lack of a preview function. If it is not introduced, I guess template pages should either use the CodeEditor or the old wikitext mode per default , otherwise template editing will never properly work.

Oct 16 2018, 10:51 AM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, MediaWiki-extensions-TemplateSandbox, VisualEditor

Aug 8 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T201466: Lua: new line before infobox not suppressed.

Ah, I see. My earlier suggestion for a fix was indeed to leave the first line with the {| inside the template and create only the following parts through Lua. But apparently the <div>\n{| solves the problem! Thus I suppose that infoboxes should always be wrapped in a div to avoid such a behaviour.

Aug 8 2018, 9:47 PM · MediaWiki-Parser, MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto
XanonymusX added a comment to T201466: Lua: new line before infobox not suppressed.

I will look into this. But if it is not a Lua problem, what other change to the template could have been relevant for changing the behaviour? If you compare this article with the original template and the corresponding German article with the new Lua template, the difference is visible.

Aug 8 2018, 8:27 PM · MediaWiki-Parser, MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto

Aug 7 2018

XanonymusX created T201466: Lua: new line before infobox not suppressed.
Aug 7 2018, 9:13 PM · MediaWiki-Parser, MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto

Jul 12 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T199138: NWE produces newline when selecting, copying and immediatly re-pasting text.

Yes, the problem is gone! :) Thanks to whoever solved it!

Jul 12 2018, 7:55 PM · User-Ryasmeen, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor

May 16 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T185590: Invisible character at end of line through copy&paste.

Oh no, seems like I overlooked something last night. :| The bug is still here, just reproduced it again. However I'd be glad if someone else could reproduce as well, otherwise I get the feeling I'm doing something wrong here, and I have no idea what that could be ...

May 16 2018, 2:35 PM · User-Ryasmeen, VisualEditor

May 15 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T185590: Invisible character at end of line through copy&paste.

Okay, it seems to be resolved, I can't reproduce it anymore!

May 15 2018, 9:01 PM · User-Ryasmeen, VisualEditor

Apr 17 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T192385: Support for conditional parameters in TemplateData.

I think this is related to T52407, about the larger need of a way to specify dependencies between parameters. There is indeed a lot of work still to be done in order to make sure that TemplateStyles can deal with any kind of templates. However, I doubt that “low priority” will ever get us there …

Apr 17 2018, 5:57 PM · VisualEditor, TemplateData

Apr 6 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T191612: Make the creation of CSS pages with TemplateStyles work more sensibly on the German Wikipedia.

According to this help page, Templates are supposed to have subpages just like user or project pages. And indeed I also never noticed any different software treatment until recently with TemplateStyles.

Apr 6 2018, 1:54 PM · Patch-For-Review, Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog (Kanban), Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wikimedia-Extension-setup, TemplateStyles

Apr 3 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T97936: Allow user to switch cite template in limited circumstances.

Indeed, meanwhile articles mainly edited with VE are flooded with auto generated weblinks disguised as “cite book”, which will then also further spread with copy&paste by inexperienced users.

Apr 3 2018, 6:57 AM · User-Josve05a, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, VisualEditor, Citoid

Mar 30 2018

XanonymusX created T191115: Unnecessary tooltip when editing table cells.
Mar 30 2018, 2:26 PM · MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-04-10 (1.31.0-wmf.29)), VisualEditor-Tables, VisualEditor (Current work)
XanonymusX renamed T190945: FlaggedRevs is not compatible with TemplateStyles from FlaggedRevs is not comaptible with TemplateStyles to FlaggedRevs is not compatible with TemplateStyles.
Mar 30 2018, 2:13 PM · MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-08-21 (1.32.0-wmf.18)), MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs, TemplateStyles

Feb 28 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T171616: Font size changes, and then the editor crashes.

I hoped that resolving T185184 would fix this as well. But I can still reproduce the invisible wikitext parts at the beginning of any article that start with a template (infoboxes, usually). Just encountered another interesting case: initially, there were two different infoboxes at the beginning of the article, which I both deleted (by selecting single parts of them and overwriting the wikitext; it was this article: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Assoluto). Then I used the backwards function of the editor, which eventually only brought back the first infobox. When using the preview, though, the other infobox was still there. Trying to reproduce it later, I managed to get various combinations of chaotic template wikitext, like

Feb 28 2018, 11:51 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor

Jan 25 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T185590: Invisible character at end of line through copy&paste.

Okay, did some testing: I can always reproduce the problem in Firefox and Chrome, while in Edge it works fine (all browsers are updated to the latest version). Whether I am logged in or not does not matter; any time I paste a chunk of text (no difference between VE and NWE), there is an invisible character at the end of the line, which I can only get rid off by deleting it explicitly or by saving the page. OS is Win10, also latest version.

Jan 25 2018, 1:24 AM · User-Ryasmeen, VisualEditor

Jan 23 2018

XanonymusX added a comment to T185184: Invisible text in new wikitext editor after large paste.

This sounds a lot like T171616 to me! There it has nothing to do with syntax highlighting, though. In any case I can still reproduce my problems, although I fortunately did not have another crash.

Jan 23 2018, 6:20 PM · MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-03-06 (1.31.0-wmf.24)), Verified-in-Phase2, VisualEditor (Current work), VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
XanonymusX created T185590: Invisible character at end of line through copy&paste.
Jan 23 2018, 6:16 PM · User-Ryasmeen, VisualEditor

Nov 7 2017

XanonymusX added a comment to T4700: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures).

Yes, substituting within refs won't work if this bug is not resolved!

Nov 7 2017, 9:18 PM · Cite, Epic, MediaWiki-Parser

Oct 19 2017

XanonymusX added a comment to T54582: TemplateData: Allow hinting to specify auto-numbered parameter names in some fashion.

I am also thinking of templates with an unlimited number of unnamed parameters, which are not handled well in VE currently.

Oct 19 2017, 8:23 PM · patch-welcome, ProveIt-Gadget, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor, TemplateData

Oct 16 2017

XanonymusX created T178341: Add and edit templates within templates.
Oct 16 2017, 9:20 PM · VisualEditor, TemplateData

Aug 22 2017

XanonymusX added a comment to T97936: Allow user to switch cite template in limited circumstances.

At least in German Wikipedia, the number of wrongly used cite book templates for websites is increasing quickly, as new users apparently just leave the formatting of the reference to VE. This produces a completely unnecessary workload when correcting the templates subsequently and also means that you will have to fill in everything manually if you want to have it correctly from the start. It’s definitely not of low priority!

Aug 22 2017, 2:57 PM · User-Josve05a, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, VisualEditor, Citoid

Jul 28 2017

XanonymusX added a comment to T171616: Font size changes, and then the editor crashes.

Just encountered the problem again in a different setting (and with less severe consequences)!

Jul 28 2017, 8:44 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor

Jul 25 2017

XanonymusX added a comment to T171616: Font size changes, and then the editor crashes.

To give a short summary of my usual steps (described in detail in German): it always happens when I want to delete an infobox at the beginning of an article which contains a photo. The moment I try to use the file name in a normal file embedding without the infobox code, the font changes and different problems can arise (there are some variations): sometimes the editor is completely blocked, one time making it even impossible to save (after a lot of editing in the article); sometimes it is not possible to write in some paragraphs (in those moments the Chrome console always warned about "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'getStore' of null" and similar); usually if I try to copy-paste some part of the source, I will not get back the part I have previously selected (mostly the code at the beginning of the article that I had previously deleted will always reappear somewhere). Looks like some deleted parts instead of vanishing are somehow hidden under other parts of the text.

Jul 25 2017, 6:25 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, VisualEditor

Feb 9 2017

XanonymusX added a project to T154382: Pasting multiple spaces (U+0020) instead pastes NBSPs, which breaks e.g. template formatting: Browser-Support-Google-Chrome.
Feb 9 2017, 3:10 PM · MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2017-02-14_(1.29.0-wmf.12)), VisualEditor-CopyPaste, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
XanonymusX added a comment to T154382: Pasting multiple spaces (U+0020) instead pastes NBSPs, which breaks e.g. template formatting.

I could reproduce it with Chromium as well, it’s apparently not limited to Firefox!

Feb 9 2017, 3:08 PM · MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2017-02-14_(1.29.0-wmf.12)), VisualEditor-CopyPaste, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor

Dec 31 2016

XanonymusX added a comment to T71729: [collapsibleTabs] If a tab's width changes after initial page load, endless animation loop can happen.

I noticed the problem today for the first time on my PC (Chromium), before I had experienced it only on the tablet. It happened with a user page on de.wiki that derived from meta, a similar case as the above mentioned.

Dec 31 2016, 3:53 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), Vector

Oct 16 2016

XanonymusX added a comment to T40724: VisualEditor: Automatically use "smart quotes" and convert other typing to more advance characters (as an option).

Anything going on? It's high time that typography is corrected automatically; I don't get how you can classify this as lowest priority!

Oct 16 2016, 6:37 PM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-ContentEditable

Sep 9 2015

XanonymusX added a comment to T52407: TemplateData: Add a way to express dependencies between parameters.

Well, I have another case: In German Wikipedia we have Template:Charteintrag, where not only such dependencies are required (eg if “POS_xy” then also “WO_xy”), but even the parameter names depend heavily on earlier added parameters. If I enter 1=x and 2=y, the possible parameters following are POS_x (with WO_x) and POS_y (with WO_y), but of course not eg POS_z! At the moment TemplateData is totally useless with this template, I fear.

Sep 9 2015, 8:36 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor, TemplateData