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Today

Xaosflux added a project to T315082: In article previews on Special:NewPagesFeed, the table of contents for the article appears in the interface language of its latest editor instead of the content language: I18n.

Screen shot.

Fri, Aug 12, 2:45 PM · I18n, Growth-Team, PageTriage
Xaosflux added a comment to T307901: Add link that allows to hide/show the ToC manually on all screen sizes above 1000px.

Centering (T314579) isn't the challenge - it is how to delete the empty gutter on the left side when it is not being populated by anything at all - getting rid of the right side gutter was simple.

Fri, Aug 12, 9:59 AM · Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2022-23-Q1), Desktop Improvements

Yesterday

Xaosflux added a comment to T307901: Add link that allows to hide/show the ToC manually on all screen sizes above 1000px.

Am I missing something? So it looks like hide the TOC is available now (production enwiki for example) - but even collapsing the sidebar and collapsing the TOC we still can't regain the left margin for display - making all the collapsing fairly pointless.

Thu, Aug 11, 11:22 PM · Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2022-23-Q1), Desktop Improvements

Sun, Aug 7

Xaosflux raised the priority of T128328: Split the block permission into several permissions from Low to Needs Triage.
Sun, Aug 7, 3:32 PM · MediaWiki-Blocks, MediaWiki-extension-requests

Fri, Aug 5

Xaosflux added a comment to T314684: "Add topic" / "New section" tab, and the DiscussionTools empty state, sometimes disappears after the page is edited.

Sshot, with missing tab/missing empty state

Fri, Aug 5, 8:19 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Page-editing
Xaosflux added a comment to T314547: Prevent Start a discussion about from showing on certain pages.

On second thought, "remove the message without removing the tab" was the use case; for pages with fancy layouts or custom controls, the message presentation may be undesirable, a problem that the standard "new section" editing control doesn't have.

Fri, Aug 5, 6:16 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T314547: Prevent Start a discussion about from showing on certain pages.

Thanks matmarex, this does indeed appear to be working properly (NONEWSECTINLINK stops this from running) - barring an example that can show it not working now, this can prob be closed as unable to duplicate. I'm pretty sure I saw this not working somewhere, but when I looked again it was fine - so possible caching delay maybe.

Fri, Aug 5, 6:11 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T312599: Show the new topic empty state experience on pages which have templates, but no discussions.

Should this appear on pages that do NOT meet the 2 criteria above, but ALSO include NONEWSECTIONLINK? See also related discussion at T314547

Fri, Aug 5, 2:18 PM · Verified, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.23; 2022-08-01), Patch-For-Review, DiscussionTools, Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board)
Xaosflux added a comment to T314547: Prevent Start a discussion about from showing on certain pages.

Bit of confusion, is it (newly?) expected that NONEWSECTIONLINK will suppress the empty state new topic tool, but that this may be reverresed in T312599?

Fri, Aug 5, 2:16 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T249293: Prevent reply links from showing on certain pages.

I don't like the idea of "ARCHIVEDTALK" for this, as opposed to a straightforward directive (e.g. NOREPLYLINK). There are plenty of possible use cases for a talk page that shouldn't use "reply", but have nothing to do with the type of content on the page; needing magic words to describe such a sub-case of content isn't consistent with anything else.

Fri, Aug 5, 1:24 PM · TPP-Phase1, Editing-team, Patch-For-Review, DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T314547: Prevent Start a discussion about from showing on certain pages.

Hackaround from enwiki, use a template that fakes a hidden signature on the page (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:No_discussion_tools_empty_state)

Fri, Aug 5, 1:20 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T314547: Prevent Start a discussion about from showing on certain pages.

Was thinking about merging to T249293, but there could be use cases where this isn't desirable, but reply link still is.

Fri, Aug 5, 1:19 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T249293: Prevent reply links from showing on certain pages.

See also T314547, about suppressing "new topic" related.

Fri, Aug 5, 1:19 PM · TPP-Phase1, Editing-team, Patch-For-Review, DiscussionTools

Tue, Aug 2

Xaosflux added a comment to T312587: [SPIKE] Generate approaches for showing edit notices within mobile editing interfaces.

Notice: enwiki has expanded this gadget to all extendedconfirmed users has wave 2 of 4 of the rollout. Any issues, please report to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:EditNoticesOnMobile

Tue, Aug 2, 6:03 PM · Goal, Patch-For-Review, Design, Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend (Editor)), Editing Design, covid-19, MinervaNeue, MediaWiki-Page-editing, Mobile

Mon, Aug 1

Xaosflux renamed T314261: Allow pagetriage log entries to include wikitext/HTML markup from Allow log entries to include wikitext/HTML markup to Allow pagetriage log entries to include wikitext/HTML markup.
Mon, Aug 1, 3:31 PM · Growth-Team, PageTriage

Sat, Jul 30

Xaosflux added a comment to T281974: Fix alignment of coordinates and page indicators (Vector 2022).

I suppose an overall design question is is: how much design should be specific to this data point that is only useful for projects with pages about geographical locations? From the examples above, "featured content" is quite generic and can represent the quality of any sort of page; indicators such as protection status are inherent to mediawiki pages; but "coordinates"? Not even "most" pages (2ish percent) on hosted Wikipedia's have a use for that, even if only looking at "encyclopedia articles" it's under 1/5th of pages.

Sat, Jul 30, 10:42 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Vector, Desktop Improvements

Thu, Jul 28

Xaosflux closed T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running as Invalid.
Thu, Jul 28, 4:15 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux claimed T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.
Thu, Jul 28, 4:15 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.

Declining, the only user story for this so far is: a user installs and configures a browser extension that interferes with served javascript. "Don't do that"

Thu, Jul 28, 4:15 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux updated the task description for T314050: On MentorDashboard the mentorship-weight always displays Average, regardless of the option stored.
Thu, Jul 28, 2:08 PM · GrowthExperiments-Mentorship, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.23; 2022-08-01), Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments-MentorDashboard
Xaosflux created T314050: On MentorDashboard the mentorship-weight always displays Average, regardless of the option stored.
Thu, Jul 28, 2:06 PM · GrowthExperiments-Mentorship, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.23; 2022-08-01), Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments-MentorDashboard

Wed, Jul 27

Xaosflux added a comment to T281974: Fix alignment of coordinates and page indicators (Vector 2022).

I think a "design spec" problem above is that "coordinates" are data (user generated content), not meta-data - why are they in the meta-data section?

hmm, maybe there is a better term we could use aside from metadata? I wasn't sure what to call that stuff...

Wed, Jul 27, 9:06 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Vector, Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T281974: Fix alignment of coordinates and page indicators (Vector 2022).

In the mock up at the top, what is this symbol supposed to represent?

image.png (231×464 px, 29 KB)

that is the watch star, which adds (or removes) the page to (or from) your watchlist

Wed, Jul 27, 9:05 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Vector, Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T281974: Fix alignment of coordinates and page indicators (Vector 2022).

I think a "design spec" problem above is that "coordinates" are data, not meta-data - why are they in the meta-data section?

Wed, Jul 27, 9:02 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Vector, Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T281974: Fix alignment of coordinates and page indicators (Vector 2022).

In the mock up at the top, what is this symbol supposed to represent?

Wed, Jul 27, 9:00 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog, Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Vector, Desktop Improvements

Tue, Jul 26

Xaosflux added a comment to T312560: Non-existent talk page archives should not have "start a discussion" button.

Thanks, sounds like this will need a blacklist as the "certain string" would vary by project (and could support multiple strings)

Tue, Jul 26, 4:23 PM · Editing QA, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
Xaosflux merged task T313808: abusefilter ooui flex styling is offseting the insert controls into T313238: OOUI 0.44.1 breaks layout of Special:AbuseFilter/X.
Tue, Jul 26, 2:23 PM · OOUI, AbuseFilter, Regression
Xaosflux merged T313808: abusefilter ooui flex styling is offseting the insert controls into T313238: OOUI 0.44.1 breaks layout of Special:AbuseFilter/X.
Tue, Jul 26, 2:23 PM · OOUI (OOUI-0.44.2), AbuseFilter
Xaosflux created T313808: abusefilter ooui flex styling is offseting the insert controls.
Tue, Jul 26, 2:21 PM · OOUI, AbuseFilter, Regression

Mon, Jul 25

Xaosflux added a comment to T312560: Non-existent talk page archives should not have "start a discussion" button.

Maybe a UX "bug", certainly doesn't seem like a technical bug.

Mon, Jul 25, 4:36 PM · Editing QA, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T298263: Abusefilter warnings do not always appear when using reply tool.

@matmarex the reply-tool part in the original report was occurring with a "grey out" box though, the off screen is only for the possibly related "add topic" part (not sure if this task should be split?)

Mon, Jul 25, 4:26 PM · Editing QA, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.22; 2022-07-25), Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), AbuseFilter, DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to F35335911: image.png.

Shot 2 after click 1

Mon, Jul 25, 3:43 PM
Xaosflux added a comment to T298263: Abusefilter warnings do not always appear when using reply tool.

Example screen shot with "new topic"

Mon, Jul 25, 3:40 PM · Editing QA, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.22; 2022-07-25), Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), AbuseFilter, DiscussionTools

Sun, Jul 24

Xaosflux added a comment to T312560: Non-existent talk page archives should not have "start a discussion" button.

@Spinningspark based on your last note, would you agree this is a request for new functionality to be designed and implemented (a feature request) and not a malfunction of the existing system (a bug)?

Sun, Jul 24, 11:05 PM · Editing QA, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools

Sat, Jul 23

Xaosflux added a comment to T313611: In vector-2022 the sidebar becomes full screen width under 1000px.

The mockups and notes in T307901 don't seem to say that a new sidebar behavior (stretch entire sidebar to full width) is expected?

Sat, Jul 23, 10:56 AM · Regression, Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a project to T313587: Sidepanel flows into Wikpedia article content: Desktop Improvements.
Sat, Jul 23, 2:00 AM · Desktop Improvements

Fri, Jul 22

Xaosflux renamed T313611: In vector-2022 the sidebar becomes full screen width under 1000px from In vector-2022 the sidebar becamse full screen width under 1000px to In vector-2022 the sidebar becomes full screen width under 1000px.
Fri, Jul 22, 6:38 PM · Regression, Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T313611: In vector-2022 the sidebar becomes full screen width under 1000px.

Split this from T313587 about a possibly related sidebar problem

Fri, Jul 22, 6:38 PM · Regression, Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T313587: Sidepanel flows into Wikpedia article content.

Split the "full width sidebar" problem to T313611

Fri, Jul 22, 6:37 PM · Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux created T313611: In vector-2022 the sidebar becomes full screen width under 1000px.
Fri, Jul 22, 6:37 PM · Regression, Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T313587: Sidepanel flows into Wikpedia article content.

@Aklapper - your screen shot is similar, should that be a separate bug - I can't see why the sidebar should ever behave like that (stretch to full width and stack).?

Fri, Jul 22, 6:25 PM · Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T313587: Sidepanel flows into Wikpedia article content.

I'm seeing a very simliar bug, at 1000px, it is fine:

Fri, Jul 22, 6:24 PM · Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T312560: Non-existent talk page archives should not have "start a discussion" button.

This doesn't seem like a bug as there is nothing special about one subpage vs another. That a talk page is a subpage of another page isn't enough of a discriminator for the example in this use case.

Fri, Jul 22, 5:35 PM · Editing QA, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools

Thu, Jul 21

Xaosflux added a comment to T281974: Fix alignment of coordinates and page indicators (Vector 2022).

Just musing, here is a live page with the issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iraq&oldid=1098751245&useskin=vector-2022 collision area highlighted.

Thu, Jul 21, 12:51 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog, Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues, Vector, Desktop Improvements

Wed, Jul 20

Xaosflux added a comment to T313187: StickyTableHeader (gadget) on English Wikipedia hidden behind top header in Vector Skin 2022.

If anyone has a proposed local CSS fix, feel free to drop an edit request at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-StickyTableHeaders.css

Wed, Jul 20, 3:37 PM · Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues
Xaosflux created T313418: Provide a view of cross wiki notifications .
Wed, Jul 20, 3:07 PM · Growth-Team, Crosswiki, Notifications
HouseBlaster awarded T229735: Add gadgets-edit and gadgets-definition-edit access to stewards and interface administrators a Like token.
Wed, Jul 20, 12:37 AM · Wikimedia-Site-requests, Gadgets-2.0, MediaWiki-extensions-Gadgets

Tue, Jul 19

Xaosflux added a comment to T310974: Extend PageTriageMaxAge for unpatrolled articles at enwiki.

enwiki certainly doesn't have enough volunteers using pagetraige to deal with that - their backlog is what started this request in the first place. Any options to only have pagetriage control indexing in content namespaces?

Tue, Jul 19, 9:39 PM · PageTriage, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Wikimedia-Site-requests, English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol

Mon, Jul 18

Xaosflux added a comment to T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.

Seeing if any other comments on this, before just closing as invalid (is breaking client-side based on client extensions)

Mon, Jul 18, 11:44 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.

If this is only breaking when clients configure browser extensions that break things, I can't really blame us for it (may split of a FR to improve that preference label).

Mon, Jul 18, 6:28 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.

Perhaps the message discussiontools-preference-summary should warn that these tools may be breaking if javascript is missing? (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Discussiontools-preference-summary where this is presumptive right now)

Mon, Jul 18, 5:28 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.

Expect this is being noticed now after this setting was forced-on for users.

Mon, Jul 18, 5:22 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.

I'm not sure if this is a bug in implementation (that fall back should occur) or design (that a dead-end workflow is present).

Mon, Jul 18, 5:22 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux created T313246: DisucssionTools quick topic adding does not fallback when javascript is not running.
Mon, Jul 18, 5:21 PM · DiscussionTools
Xaosflux added a comment to T312587: [SPIKE] Generate approaches for showing edit notices within mobile editing interfaces.

FYI: English Wikipedia is getting ready to start enabling the javascript gadget for users as opt-out, in waves (by user groups, anons will be last). If there are any significant blocking items please let us know at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:EditNoticesOnMobile#Getting_ready_for_launch as soon as possible.

Mon, Jul 18, 1:37 PM · Goal, Patch-For-Review, Design, Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board), MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend (Editor)), Editing Design, covid-19, MinervaNeue, MediaWiki-Page-editing, Mobile
Xaosflux added a comment to T312299: [SPIKE] Review EditNoticesOnMobile.js gadget.

FYI: English Wikipedia is getting ready to start enabling the javascript gadget for users as opt-out, in waves (by user groups, anons will be last). If there are any significant blocking items please let us know at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:EditNoticesOnMobile#Getting_ready_for_launch as soon as possible.

Mon, Jul 18, 1:36 PM · VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, Editing-team (FY2021-22 Kanban Board)

Sat, Jul 16

Xaosflux added a comment to T313169: Template-equals-category is still populating Category:Pages which use = as a template despite {{=}} now being a magic word.

OK, if this is expected behavior nothing to do then I suppose.

Sat, Jul 16, 10:34 PM · MediaWiki-Parser
Xaosflux added a comment to T313169: Template-equals-category is still populating Category:Pages which use = as a template despite {{=}} now being a magic word.

So, despite {{=}} being magic, if passed arguments it bypasses the magic? Is that by design? That is what I'm seeing in the output at https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/EqualsTest2 (when Template:= is deleted from that project)

Sat, Jul 16, 10:27 PM · MediaWiki-Parser
Xaosflux added a subtask for T91154: {{=}} should be a parser function: T313169: Template-equals-category is still populating Category:Pages which use = as a template despite {{=}} now being a magic word.
Sat, Jul 16, 9:04 PM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.14; 2022-05-30), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.10; 2020-09-22), MediaWiki-Installer, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), MediaWiki-Page-editing, User-notice, MediaWiki-Parser
Xaosflux added a parent task for T313169: Template-equals-category is still populating Category:Pages which use = as a template despite {{=}} now being a magic word: T91154: {{=}} should be a parser function.
Sat, Jul 16, 9:04 PM · MediaWiki-Parser
Xaosflux created T313169: Template-equals-category is still populating Category:Pages which use = as a template despite {{=}} now being a magic word.
Sat, Jul 16, 9:04 PM · MediaWiki-Parser

Fri, Jul 15

Xaosflux awarded T311533: When an extension prevents page creation with a new section, "new section" appears in the subject box as if it was the summary a Haypence token.
Fri, Jul 15, 1:08 AM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.22; 2022-07-25), MediaWiki-Page-editing

Thu, Jul 14

Xaosflux added a comment to T313005: Make permalink display embedded images, templates, red links at that time.

Isn't this basically T2851?

Thu, Jul 14, 8:05 PM · Internet-Archive
Xaosflux added a comment to T310974: Extend PageTriageMaxAge for unpatrolled articles at enwiki.

Making everything in File:, Help:, etc become non-indexable seems like a net-negative - and is certainly beyond what the proposers are asking (which is about content namespaces), especially if it includes pages that were already "patrolled" but not "reviewed" in these non-content namespaces.

Thu, Jul 14, 1:58 PM · PageTriage, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Wikimedia-Site-requests, English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol
Xaosflux added a comment to T310974: Extend PageTriageMaxAge for unpatrolled articles at enwiki.

What mechanism is preventing the millions of articles, both those from before PageTriage was deployed as well as all articles creating during PageTriage that weren't triaged within the respective maxage that applied at the time, from getting retroactively no-indexed?

Thu, Jul 14, 9:40 AM · PageTriage, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Wikimedia-Site-requests, English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol

Jul 12 2022

Xaosflux updated the task description for T312884: InputBox does not localize the empty field help label.
Jul 12 2022, 5:58 PM · I18n, MediaWiki-extensions-InputBox
Xaosflux created T312884: InputBox does not localize the empty field help label.
Jul 12 2022, 5:56 PM · I18n, MediaWiki-extensions-InputBox

Jul 8 2022

Xaosflux added a project to T257394: Tmbox template not displayed on WMF wikis on mobile (MinervaNeue skin): MinervaNeue (Desktop).

This isn't just a MFE problem

Jul 8 2022, 10:50 PM · Talk Pages, MinervaNeue, Reading-Web-Local-Wiki-Issues
Xaosflux merged task T65837: Allow users to invalidate temporary password into T61736: password reset mail should have a "cancel this" link.
Jul 8 2022, 3:07 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Email
Xaosflux merged T65837: Allow users to invalidate temporary password into T61736: password reset mail should have a "cancel this" link.
Jul 8 2022, 3:07 PM · Patch-Needs-Improvement, MediaWiki-User-login-and-signup
Xaosflux added a comment to T201595: Mobile frontend web does not present edit notices.

This doesn't seem to be a Minerva desktop problem, just mobilefrontend (xx.m.wikipedia.org type) - in that MFE doesn't integrate edit notices.

Jul 8 2022, 1:38 PM · MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend (Editor)), Editing-team (Design Backlog), Editing Design, covid-19, MinervaNeue, MediaWiki-Page-editing, Mobile
Xaosflux renamed T201595: Mobile frontend web does not present edit notices from Mobile web (and Minerva desktop) does not present edit notices to Mobile frontend web does not present edit notices.
Jul 8 2022, 1:36 PM · MobileFrontend (MobileFrontend (Editor)), Editing-team (Design Backlog), Editing Design, covid-19, MinervaNeue, MediaWiki-Page-editing, Mobile

Jul 7 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T312317: MediaWiki:Titleprotected not showing when attempting to edit protected titles.

@Awesome_Aasim: Which exact MediaWiki software version is this about?

Jul 7 2022, 10:28 AM · MediaWiki-General

Jul 6 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T36928: Create a user right that allows ignoring the spam blacklist.

That -2 is on a patch though right, not on this task - a forked patch can just be submitted right?

Jul 6 2022, 11:39 PM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.21; 2022-07-18), User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-User-management, SpamBlacklist
Xaosflux added a comment to T14458: Protected page titles should show only one protection notice.

Not sure if this is still relevant, don't those pages just get noarticletext-nopermission now?

Jul 6 2022, 6:20 PM · Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Page-editing

Jul 5 2022

Xaosflux updated the task description for T312086: When editing an old page revision and publishing it, the message incorrectly uses the term "restored".
Jul 5 2022, 11:14 AM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.17; 2022-06-20), Voice & Tone, MediaWiki-Page-deletion, Community-Tech, Undelete-Associated-Talk-Page (2021)
Xaosflux updated the task description for T312086: When editing an old page revision and publishing it, the message incorrectly uses the term "restored".
Jul 5 2022, 11:13 AM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.17; 2022-06-20), Voice & Tone, MediaWiki-Page-deletion, Community-Tech, Undelete-Associated-Talk-Page (2021)
Xaosflux renamed T312086: When editing an old page revision and publishing it, the message incorrectly uses the term "restored" from When loading an old deleted revision and publishing it, the message incorrectly uses the term "undeleted" to When editing an old page revision and publishing it, the message incorrectly uses the term "restored".
Jul 5 2022, 11:12 AM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.17; 2022-06-20), Voice & Tone, MediaWiki-Page-deletion, Community-Tech, Undelete-Associated-Talk-Page (2021)
Xaosflux added a comment to T312086: When editing an old page revision and publishing it, the message incorrectly uses the term "restored".

The use case I was describing in that is:

Jul 5 2022, 11:10 AM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.17; 2022-06-20), Voice & Tone, MediaWiki-Page-deletion, Community-Tech, Undelete-Associated-Talk-Page (2021)

Jul 4 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T307901: Add link that allows to hide/show the ToC manually on all screen sizes above 1000px.

@ovasileva thanks for the note, that one seems to at least let the side bars get "squeezed" at all resolutions, so that is a plus!

Jul 4 2022, 8:41 AM · Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2022-23-Q1), Desktop Improvements

Jul 3 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T310974: Extend PageTriageMaxAge for unpatrolled articles at enwiki.

If this were something that would ONLY impact making a log/feed longer, thus only impact people that view that log - I can't see any reason to wait baring any technical issues and indeed this should go forward!

Jul 3 2022, 4:11 PM · PageTriage, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Wikimedia-Site-requests, English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol

Jul 1 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T307901: Add link that allows to hide/show the ToC manually on all screen sizes above 1000px.

Yes, I've seen that and understand the default behavior, suppose would need a different request to be able to deal with that via styles instead of javascript. Currently, on narrow enough skins the toolbar can be collapsed/uncollapsed - and when it collapses (other wise leaving the side bar empty) the sidebar also collapses (see images below) - that's the sort of behavior I'm following up about.

Jul 1 2022, 4:47 PM · Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2022-23-Q1), Desktop Improvements
Xaosflux added a comment to T307901: Add link that allows to hide/show the ToC manually on all screen sizes above 1000px.

So it looks like this isn't going to save any screen space right? Just "collapse" the TOC up, but still leave a big empty gutter in the now-empty sidebar? Do we need a different request to be able to collapse empty side bars - since they don't seem to be contained in an object we can deal with via CSS.

Jul 1 2022, 4:14 PM · Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2022-23-Q1), Desktop Improvements

Jun 30 2022

Xaosflux updated the task description for T311744: PAGESINCAT is wrong even after purge.
Jun 30 2022, 6:46 PM · MediaWiki-Categories
Xaosflux updated subscribers of T311744: PAGESINCAT is wrong even after purge.
Jun 30 2022, 4:05 PM · MediaWiki-Categories
Xaosflux created T311744: PAGESINCAT is wrong even after purge.
Jun 30 2022, 4:03 PM · MediaWiki-Categories
Xaosflux added a comment to T310974: Extend PageTriageMaxAge for unpatrolled articles at enwiki.

Can we get a quick verification: does this change affect all new PAGES, or only pages in certain namespaces? Most of the discussion on the community seems to be limited to discussion about the noindex setting for "content" pages (and really only ns:0 pages).

Jun 30 2022, 2:16 PM · PageTriage, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Wikimedia-Site-requests, English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol

Jun 29 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T310974: Extend PageTriageMaxAge for unpatrolled articles at enwiki.

I left comments on the local thread, which I think is the right venue for discussing the community merits of the request. There certainly is no rush here, if this is what the community wants so be it - a slight delay isn't going to be a big deal.

Jun 29 2022, 10:51 PM · PageTriage, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Wikimedia-Site-requests, English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol
Xaosflux added a comment to T311360: RecentChanges timing out.

This outage is continuing, do we need volunteers or staff to work on this?

Jun 29 2022, 1:56 PM · MW-1.38-notes, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Upstream, mariadb-optimizer-bug, Wikimedia-Slow-DB-Query, Performance-Team, DBA, Platform Engineering, Vuln-DoS, Wikimedia-production-error, Growth-Team, MediaWiki-Recent-changes

Jun 28 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T310974: Extend PageTriageMaxAge for unpatrolled articles at enwiki.

That enwiki discussion seems to not be very well advertised, it was only placed on a Village Pump a few days ago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#New_page_search_engine_NOINDEX_duration) - for a change that impacts almost all editors (with an large portion of the contributors being ones that are exempt from this). Suggest enwiki further advertise their discussion.

Jun 28 2022, 9:06 PM · PageTriage, Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.18; 2022-06-27), Wikimedia-Site-requests, English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol
Xaosflux added a comment to T311533: When an extension prevents page creation with a new section, "new section" appears in the subject box as if it was the summary.

Agree this is fairly low priority and this use case will decline; but it could be a bug that sticks its head up in other places unexpectedly.

Jun 28 2022, 7:45 PM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.22; 2022-07-25), MediaWiki-Page-editing
Xaosflux renamed T311533: When an extension prevents page creation with a new section, "new section" appears in the subject box as if it was the summary from Captcha when creating pages causes a mangled /* new section */ to appear in the edit summary to CAPTCHA when creating pages with a new section causes unexpected text /* new section */ to appear in the subject box.
Jun 28 2022, 4:58 PM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.22; 2022-07-25), MediaWiki-Page-editing
Xaosflux added a comment to T311533: When an extension prevents page creation with a new section, "new section" appears in the subject box as if it was the summary.

This seems to occur w/o dt

Jun 28 2022, 4:56 PM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.22; 2022-07-25), MediaWiki-Page-editing

Jun 27 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T311422: recentchanges fails on metawiki.

Intermittently, results are working - failing about 75% of the time during quick tests

Jun 27 2022, 3:24 PM · Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Growth-Team
Xaosflux added a comment to T311422: recentchanges fails on metawiki.

Also fails in safemode https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?safemode=1

Jun 27 2022, 3:20 PM · Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Growth-Team
Xaosflux created T311422: recentchanges fails on metawiki.
Jun 27 2022, 3:19 PM · Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Growth-Team

Jun 22 2022

Xaosflux added a comment to T307901: Add link that allows to hide/show the ToC manually on all screen sizes above 1000px.

Over on enwiki we've started looking at a way to make the most of vector-2022 for those that still want a wide layout. Example page with gadget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancaster's_Normandy_chevauch%C3%A9e_of_1356?useskin=vector-2022&withgadget=wide-vector-2022 of course, the TOC in the sidebar is in the way at wide widths - once this TOC collapsing is working, will it also allow the then-empty sidebar to collapse as well?

Jun 22 2022, 10:46 PM · Patch-For-Review, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.25; 2022-08-15), Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-2022-23-Q1), Desktop Improvements

Jun 15 2022

Xaosflux triaged T310708: When restoring an old version of a page, the message now incorrectly says the page has been undeleted as Medium priority.
Jun 15 2022, 6:34 PM · Regression, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.17; 2022-06-20), User-EpicPupper, Voice & Tone, MediaWiki-Page-deletion, Community-Tech, Undelete-Associated-Talk-Page (2021)
Xaosflux added a comment to T310708: When restoring an old version of a page, the message now incorrectly says the page has been undeleted.

Seems to be primarily this key change (though it would be worth now re-reviewing the rest of the changes with this context)

@@ -1 +1 @@
-"postedit-confirmation-restored": "The page has been restored.",
+"postedit-confirmation-restored": "The page has been undeleted.",

@Xaosflux That was my +2, apologies. Would changing postedit-confirmation-restored back to The page has been restored. be sufficient initially? I don't recall the message saying "published" (but then again, I can't recall ever really looking at that popup..)

Jun 15 2022, 2:53 PM · Regression, MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.17; 2022-06-20), User-EpicPupper, Voice & Tone, MediaWiki-Page-deletion, Community-Tech, Undelete-Associated-Talk-Page (2021)
Xaosflux added a comment to T307181: Unify how we call "undelete" in the Undelete UI.

When no "undelete" action has occurred, we shouldn't be saying that one has.

Jun 15 2022, 2:12 PM · MW-1.39-notes (1.39.0-wmf.15; 2022-06-06), User-EpicPupper, Voice & Tone, MediaWiki-Page-deletion, Community-Tech, Undelete-Associated-Talk-Page (2021)