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Wed, May 26

Zache added a member for Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Database: Zache.
Wed, May 26, 3:28 PM

Sun, May 23

Kozuch awarded T261589: UploadWizard UI is not responsive a Like token.
Sun, May 23, 10:20 AM · Structured-Data-Backlog, MinervaNeue (Tracking), UploadWizard

Sat, May 22

Zache added a comment to T282875: Jupyter notebook for reconciliation.

Multichill's SDC editing with pywikibot code as a reference

Sat, May 22, 5:10 AM · Wikimedia-Hackathon-2021

Thu, May 20

Zache added a comment to T259801: Support multilingual formatter url on Wikidata.

This affects the query service which uses the formatter URL to render the URI.

Thu, May 20, 2:46 PM · I18n, Wikidata
Zache updated the task description for T282158: Roundtable on Listeria enhancements.
Thu, May 20, 10:01 AM · Wikimedia-Hackathon-2021

Wed, May 19

Zache updated the task description for T283142: Crossplatform rephotography app (based on Flutter).
Wed, May 19, 8:56 AM · Wikimedia-Hackathon-2021
Zache created T283142: Crossplatform rephotography app (based on Flutter).
Wed, May 19, 8:28 AM · Wikimedia-Hackathon-2021
Zache added a comment to T282875: Jupyter notebook for reconciliation.

I think that this will still work as an example for reading CSV/TSV row by row and updating wikidata based on values from the file.

Wed, May 19, 8:13 AM · Wikimedia-Hackathon-2021

May 10 2021

Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

Is it possible to behave / look like normal notifications (ie upper div box in beginning of the page) and then use CSS/Javascript to modify that for getting the low profile functionality for the wikis/user who like to have low profile ui?

May 10 2021, 6:43 AM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Apr 14 2021

Zache updated the task description for T277473: Disable ContentTranslation New article campaign in fiwiki.
Apr 14 2021, 2:16 PM · Language-Team (Language-2021-April-June), ContentTranslation, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Apr 13 2021

Zache awarded T277364: Alignment problem in link hovering a Barnstar token.
Apr 13 2021, 9:04 AM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2021-03-31, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2021-03-17, Reference Previews

Apr 11 2021

Zache created T279847: pageloads of Wikiprojekti:Punaisten_linkkien_naiset_2021 grouped by selected HTTP referers in April 2021.
Apr 11 2021, 6:31 AM · Product-Analytics (Kanban)

Apr 9 2021

Zache updated the task description for T279810: Allow host meta.wikimedia.org for MediaWiki API queries.
Apr 9 2021, 11:49 PM · Patch-For-Review, Discovery-Search (Current work), Wikidata, Wikidata-Query-Service
Zache created T279810: Allow host meta.wikimedia.org for MediaWiki API queries.
Apr 9 2021, 11:39 PM · Patch-For-Review, Discovery-Search (Current work), Wikidata, Wikidata-Query-Service
Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

Unwanted regression. CSS-classes for the lines in the history/recentchanges etc lists which will tell if the revision is reviewed or not is gone. An example light blue lines in this screenshot for the edits reviewed by Opa.

Apr 9 2021, 4:18 AM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Mar 31 2021

Zache added a comment to T277473: Disable ContentTranslation New article campaign in fiwiki.

Given the context above, it may be worth considering whether to focus this change to focus only on newcomers. In this way, the more experienced editors would still get opportunities to contribute in a way that better suits them.

Mar 31 2021, 6:18 PM · Language-Team (Language-2021-April-June), ContentTranslation, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Mar 24 2021

Zache added a comment to T185664: Code stewardship review: FlaggedRevs.

Hmm, If I understand this correctly the "sighted" (stable version) is enough for Google News and it doesn't use quality tier for aggregating news. It woud be nice to confirm somehow.

Mar 24 2021, 3:15 PM · User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs, Code-Stewardship-Reviews
Zache added a comment to T218503: CX2: Different references with the same name.

Another example case from finnish Wikipedia

Mar 24 2021, 12:46 PM · ContentTranslation

Mar 21 2021

Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

So another point to clean up is rights, we have these rights:

  • "validate",
    • God like, full review right on everything. Can be dropped once we removed tiers and dimensions.
Mar 21 2021, 12:13 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Mar 20 2021

Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

In Finnish Wikipedia, they are used so that there is some set of articles (say featured articles) which edits are checked as normally for vandalism and then there is also the slower round where users are doing time to time more deeply checking what is changed after last quality revision.

Mar 20 2021, 3:23 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

I understand. But the choice here is not between "having tiers" and "not having tiers". It's between "not having tiers" and "undeploying flaggedrevs". The code under the hood is a big mess. My suggestion is to remove the tiers (and keep levels for now) and if needed:

  • Either implemented later in a better way inside flagged revs
  • or have a new small self-contained extension to handle that. I know there was some efforts in WMF to write something to allow users mark a revision/page in a structured way but I think this is out of scope of this extension. the extension job is about "pending changes" and should only do that (and do it well)
Mar 20 2021, 6:38 AM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

Ah, you mean that if the user can still select "well-sourced" when the user is reviewing then it is good enough(?) I try to explain again what I tried to say earlier.

Mar 20 2021, 4:39 AM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Mar 19 2021

Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

Hmm, it seems that seeing the info requires suitable user group. However here is screenshot

Mar 19 2021, 7:02 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

Not sure if I was able to follow you on how you defined "tiers". In fiwiki there is in user interface

  • stable = alias for any review
  • checked = levels 1, 2
  • quality = level 3
Mar 19 2021, 6:36 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

Right. You know that least fiwiki is using more than two levels.... I may not even be against axing the levels, but I was thinking that I was in some level to following what is happening with FlaggedRevs and it would be nice to even to hear or participate to the discussion where you are deciding things.

Mar 19 2021, 5:37 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T277883: Drop all low-use and unused features of FlaggedRevs to make it more maintainable.

@Jdforrester-WMF if we are keeping levels inside single dimension it would be more useful to keep quality and pristine and link them together in documentation.

Mar 19 2021, 5:25 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.11; 2021-06-21), MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), Technical-Debt, Patch-For-Review, User-Ladsgroup, Epic, User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T185664: Code stewardship review: FlaggedRevs.

"SimpleUI" will currently break the fiwikis page layout as it will collide with some templates. "Non-simple UI" aka basic text box works well when the number of the pages where it is visible is low (like it is in fiwiki) and it will actually notify users that there is new changes to users to check.

Mar 19 2021, 4:30 PM · User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs, Code-Stewardship-Reviews

Mar 18 2021

Zache added a comment to T185664: Code stewardship review: FlaggedRevs.

I would keep the wording same as in documentation. Ie. "Flagged revisions will no longer have multiple tags like "accuracy", "tone" or "depth" and will only have single tag"....

Mar 18 2021, 10:56 AM · User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs, Code-Stewardship-Reviews

Mar 16 2021

Zache added a comment to T277364: Alignment problem in link hovering.

Bug confirmed with Windows 7 and chrome 89.0.4389.82. It seems that if the link is in the bottom line then it is not activated when mouse cursor is hovered over the link. Link cannot be clicked either.

Mar 16 2021, 1:57 PM · WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2021-03-31, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.38; 2021-04-06), WMDE-TechWish-Sprint-2021-03-17, Reference Previews
Zache added a comment to T277411: Create replacement for FlaggedRevs extension.

If somebody is fast enough, then there is still time to drop application to this years software/research project grants. Deadline is today 16.3.2021.

Mar 16 2021, 1:52 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T185664: Code stewardship review: FlaggedRevs.

@Ladsgroup just some notes:

Mar 16 2021, 1:49 PM · User-notice, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs, Code-Stewardship-Reviews

Mar 15 2021

Zache added a comment to T277473: Disable ContentTranslation New article campaign in fiwiki.

This is summary by Kyykaarme of the reasons why the community wants to disable the invitations to translate articles.

Mar 15 2021, 3:41 PM · Language-Team (Language-2021-April-June), ContentTranslation, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Zache created T277473: Disable ContentTranslation New article campaign in fiwiki.
Mar 15 2021, 3:31 PM · Language-Team (Language-2021-April-June), ContentTranslation, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Mar 14 2021

Zache added a comment to T277411: Create replacement for FlaggedRevs extension.

@Jdforrester-WMF Why WMF is not able to fund developing FlaggedRevs (or replacement)?

Mar 14 2021, 7:03 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Mar 2 2021

Zache added a comment to T217322: Allow anonymous users to translate.

I copied the acceptance criteria from the older ticket as these are merged. Feel free to edit them, but if you are dropping the "if the local wiki configuration allows to, users can publish translations anonymously" then please give some well-thought rationale for it as it feels like a point where there is a collision between what user communities think and technical design.

Mar 2 2021, 6:19 AM · Language-Team (Language-2020-January-March), CX-boost, Design
Zache updated the task description for T217322: Allow anonymous users to translate.
Mar 2 2021, 6:11 AM · Language-Team (Language-2020-January-March), CX-boost, Design

Feb 18 2021

Zache added a comment to T275017: Reviewers can't stabilize pages on fiwiki.

Root cause for the problem could be race condition when configuration values are merged (Warning: this was not never validated)

Feb 18 2021, 8:12 AM · User-Urbanecm, User-Majavah, Platform Engineering, Regression, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Feb 5 2021

Zache added a comment to T121797: Implement perceptual/visual image hashing/fingerprinting in MediaWiki for detection of non-exact duplicate uploads.

Not sure if we would be able to do that kind of comparison in a SQL query (but the power of SQL keeps surprising me).

I looked into this a little while back. Usually for these types of hashes, you want to find everything within a certain hamming distance of the current hash, which is very difficult to index for in sql.

Feb 5 2021, 10:53 AM · Multimedia, Commons, MediaWiki-File-management

Feb 4 2021

Zache added a comment to T215858: Plan a replacement for wiki replicas that is better suited to typical OLAP use cases than the MediaWiki OLTP schema.

Very low tech workaround for decreacing the current load could be generating unsanitized id / timestamp pair tables where user could query possible min/max values for the primary ids. This could be even compacted so that it would contain only one pair per day.

Feb 4 2021, 10:29 AM · cloud-services-team (Kanban), Data-Services, Analytics

Feb 2 2021

Zache added a comment to T272523: Early testing of the new Wiki Replicas multi-instance architecture.

Yes, the connection was started after your "Tue, Feb 2, 3:53 PM" comment.

Feb 2 2021, 4:22 PM · Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2021), Data-Services, cloud-services-team (Kanban)
Zache added a comment to T272523: Early testing of the new Wiki Replicas multi-instance architecture.

Thanks for fixing. I was able to log in but connection (or timeouts) is still little bit shaky.

Feb 2 2021, 4:03 PM · Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2021), Data-Services, cloud-services-team (Kanban)
Zache added a comment to T272523: Early testing of the new Wiki Replicas multi-instance architecture.

Seems to be down

Feb 2 2021, 11:07 AM · Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2021), Data-Services, cloud-services-team (Kanban)

Jan 21 2021

Zache updated the task description for T269609: Ensure all ToolsDB databases comply with current naming conventions.
Jan 21 2021, 8:22 PM · Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2021), cloud-services-team (Kanban), Data-Services

Jan 19 2021

Zache added a comment to T188183: Add the "actor" table to the database layout documentation.

Sure, in July 2019 when i wrote the comments the rev_actor fields werent documented

Jan 19 2021, 3:02 PM · MediaWiki-Platform-Team, good first task, Documentation, Multi-Content-Revisions, Wikimedia-Rdbms

Jan 18 2021

Zache added a comment to T121797: Implement perceptual/visual image hashing/fingerprinting in MediaWiki for detection of non-exact duplicate uploads.

I just tested Phash (ImageHash.py :s implementation) and for detecting duplicates it would be huge improvement compared to SHA1 even if it would be used for testing the exact matches which would be fast using SQL. There would be false negatives though.

Jan 18 2021, 9:10 AM · Multimedia, Commons, MediaWiki-File-management
Zache added a comment to T251026: Detect duplicate images via perceptual hashes before upload.

Ok, thanks. By default pythons ImageHash librarys pHash length is 64 bit and even if I change it longer it doesn't generate same hashes. So it is confirmed that its pHash and JImageHash PerceptiveHash doesn't generate same hashes.

Jan 18 2021, 1:22 AM · Tool-spacemedia

Jan 17 2021

Zache added a comment to T251026: Detect duplicate images via perceptual hashes before upload.

Hi, is it possible to get some phash hash values for pictures in Wikimedia Commons? I would like to see if the JImageHash would generate compatible hash values with Pythons Imagehash, but I expect that it doesn't do that.

Jan 17 2021, 10:13 PM · Tool-spacemedia
Zache added a comment to T253053: Make it possible to add references to statements in Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons.

Use case example

Jan 17 2021, 4:01 PM · Structured-Data-Backlog, GLAM-Tech

Jan 15 2021

Zache added a comment to T215858: Plan a replacement for wiki replicas that is better suited to typical OLAP use cases than the MediaWiki OLTP schema.

Is it possible to get information how big the commons/wikidata tables are on the disk? (ie. which are the problematic tables in the replication point of view)

The tables individually I'm not sure. The databases for sure. What would that info help with?

Jan 15 2021, 1:30 PM · cloud-services-team (Kanban), Data-Services, Analytics

Jan 13 2021

Zache added a comment to T215858: Plan a replacement for wiki replicas that is better suited to typical OLAP use cases than the MediaWiki OLTP schema.

Is it possible to get information how big the commons/wikidata tables are on the disk? (ie. which are the problematic tables in the replication point of view)

Jan 13 2021, 9:39 AM · cloud-services-team (Kanban), Data-Services, Analytics
Zache added a comment to T268498: Feedback from Quarry and PAWS users, and other wiki editors affected by the new architecture.

Some generic examples how I am using cross-database joins. Problem is not really if I know how to recreate those using code, but if the cross-database joins are going away they are a lot more complex to implement (=more work to do write the code). They are also a lot slower to run if I need to first fetch all the data locally to do manually the matching as now the work is done transparently by the SQL server.

Jan 13 2021, 8:27 AM · Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2021), Data-Services

Jan 7 2021

Zache added a comment to T262196: Defaults of `$wgFlaggedRevsNamespaces` settings can not be overwritten properly.

Why has the patchset been abandoned?

There are no reviewers

Jan 7 2021, 10:46 AM · MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Jan 1 2021

Zache added a comment to T244672: Many file descriptions added from Commons Android app (Suggested Edits) are unhelpful.

If this is still true:

Jan 1 2021, 12:57 PM · Structured-Data-Backlog, Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, Commons, Android-app-feature-Description-Editing
Zache added a comment to T244672: Many file descriptions added from Commons Android app (Suggested Edits) are unhelpful.

Just FYI, there is a discussion in commons about this tool .

Jan 1 2021, 6:36 AM · Structured-Data-Backlog, Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, Commons, Android-app-feature-Description-Editing

Dec 10 2020

Zache awarded T210224: Revert FlaggedRevs changes on the Hungarian Wikipedia a Barnstar token.
Dec 10 2020, 1:11 PM · Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Zache added a comment to T269287: How many active users are from Finland in Commons and Wikidata?.

More specifically I am interested on largest editor communities not readership as the readrship is rather skewed when comparing wikidata/wikipedia/commons. I tried to analyze this by myself by using how many wikidata editors from last 30 days have ever edited finnish Wikipedia in any significant amounts and same for Commons. However, this ignores all of those who dont edit fiwiki and includes users whose contributions are historical langlink edits and global vandal fighting.

Dec 10 2020, 10:16 AM · Product-Analytics (Kanban)

Dec 9 2020

Zache added a comment to T269287: How many active users are from Finland in Commons and Wikidata?.

Ok, thanks for the info. Also, if you catched the general idea of the information what i am trying to get then feel free to refine the question more easily resolvable if needed.

Dec 9 2020, 4:02 PM · Product-Analytics (Kanban)

Dec 8 2020

Zache added a comment to T261589: UploadWizard UI is not responsive.

@Aklapper I didn't say that you would have bunch of unused developers. I wrote that priotizing this as low priority and postponing this to some unknown future is an error.

Dec 8 2020, 9:19 AM · Structured-Data-Backlog, MinervaNeue (Tracking), UploadWizard
Zache added a comment to T261589: UploadWizard UI is not responsive.

@MarkTraceur. I would like to question your triage to low priority I demonstrated on the ticket that responsiveness could be mostly fixed just by CSS which is trivial and by focusing on creating a new upload tool the problem will be still there on 2025. Also uploading files to Commons are the most basic features of the site. It is a more elemental feature for the usage of the site than for example the structured data.

Dec 8 2020, 6:34 AM · Structured-Data-Backlog, MinervaNeue (Tracking), UploadWizard

Dec 7 2020

Zache added a comment to T269196: flaggedrevs_statistics is never purged.

One use case for the historical data.

Dec 7 2020, 2:01 AM · Technical-Debt, User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Dec 2 2020

Zache created T269287: How many active users are from Finland in Commons and Wikidata?.
Dec 2 2020, 7:32 PM · Product-Analytics (Kanban)
Zache added a comment to T269196: flaggedrevs_statistics is never purged.

And for current uses, least I am using them for the graphs. Though, this is not realtime as it used to aggregate data from other tables too than flaggedrevs_statistics so i have updated the stats when I have needed them.

Dec 2 2020, 3:59 AM · Technical-Debt, User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T269196: flaggedrevs_statistics is never purged.

I think the most important use case is statistics analysis. Also afaik i think it is needed also WMF/Community figures out what to do with the FlaggedRevs as we don't really have much a data how the the FlaggedRevs is used.

Dec 2 2020, 3:42 AM · Technical-Debt, User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T269196: flaggedrevs_statistics is never purged.

Please don't purge them. If one wants to do timelines or graphs (Like i do) of how the revieweing have been developed or wants to compare different language versions he or she needs historical data.

Dec 2 2020, 3:09 AM · Technical-Debt, User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Dec 1 2020

Zache added a comment to T233561: Pending changes: autoreview randomly fails.

Actually not least by T237191 as Tgr noted in second ticket.

Dec 1 2020, 5:25 AM · Regression, MediaWiki-User-management, User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Nov 30 2020

Zache added a comment to T234743: User rights validation is sometimes malfunctioning (with FlaggedRevs only?).

Does this still exist or was this solved too when [[phab:T237191]] was fixed? (by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/627332)

Nov 30 2020, 9:29 PM · User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-User-management
Zache added a comment to T233561: Pending changes: autoreview randomly fails.

Does this still exist or was this solved too when [[phab:T237191]] was fixed? (by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/627332)

Nov 30 2020, 9:29 PM · Regression, MediaWiki-User-management, User-DannyS712, MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs
Zache added a comment to T245861: Add Structured data during file upload with Upload Wizard.

Backlink to the Community Wishlist Survey 2021 proposal
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/Multimedia_and_Commons/Add_Structured_data_during_file_upload_with_Upload_Wizard

Nov 30 2020, 9:11 PM · Structured-Data-Backlog, StructuredDataOnCommons, UploadWizard, Structured Data Engineering

Nov 29 2020

Zache created T268933: Ability to see if edit is already reverted in Wikidata RC in other projects.
Nov 29 2020, 5:00 AM · Growth-Team-Filtering, MediaWiki-Watchlist, Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, Wikidata, MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Growth-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient
Zache added a comment to T187680: New watchlist/recent changes: Have an option to hide Wikidata edits by experienced and/or flood-flagged users.

This seems to be same as T246746

Nov 29 2020, 4:48 AM · Growth-Team-Filtering, Growth-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Zache added a comment to T187680: New watchlist/recent changes: Have an option to hide Wikidata edits by experienced and/or flood-flagged users.

Another idea. Currently the recentchanges rc_params contains this information for remote edits and it is already used for generating backlinks to wikidata. This could also contain the rc_patrolled value from Wikidata which could be used for filtering.

Nov 29 2020, 4:02 AM · Growth-Team-Filtering, Growth-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata, MediaWiki-Watchlist
Zache added a comment to T187680: New watchlist/recent changes: Have an option to hide Wikidata edits by experienced and/or flood-flagged users.

One solution could be to hide all the edits which are autopatrolled in Wikidata. However, currently all wikidata edits are propagated to client wikis (what is correct term for this?) with value rc_patrolled=2 so there should be either correct value for autopatrol status OR more possible values for separating local autopatrolled edits and remote autopatrolled edits.

Nov 29 2020, 2:58 AM · Growth-Team-Filtering, Growth-Team, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata, MediaWiki-Watchlist

Nov 27 2020

Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

Yes, it sounds agreeable to me.

Nov 27 2020, 4:55 PM · DiscussionTools
Zache added a comment to T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.

In finnish wikipedia there is two use cases for disabling the links because the page is archived or project page. Currently there is no known problems with this except that the css is custom local change.

Nov 27 2020, 8:45 AM · DiscussionTools

Nov 12 2020

Zache awarded T266587: ToolsDB replication is broken a Barnstar token.
Nov 12 2020, 7:46 AM · Patch-For-Review, Data-Services, cloud-services-team (Kanban)
Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

This still won't catch top level comments that end with a signed list item.

Nov 12 2020, 7:32 AM · DiscussionTools

Nov 11 2020

Zache added a comment to T266587: ToolsDB replication is broken.

First, thank you for fixing this. Do you have any best/worst guess when the tooldb is up again? There's WLM jurying going using http://montage.toolforge.org which is down and we need to inform the jurors of when the reviewing the photos is expected to continue.

Nov 11 2020, 1:10 PM · Patch-For-Review, Data-Services, cloud-services-team (Kanban)
Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

Thanks for letting us know. I have to say that we can't promise that reply links will always be compatible with that CSS, and it makes it harder for us to debug any issues that occur on Finnish Wikipedia. Also, that CSS is loaded for everyone, and not only users who enabled the beta feature. But we can't stop you… :)

Nov 11 2020, 8:12 AM · DiscussionTools
Zache added a comment to T267642: Add time based autoacceptance to FlaggedRevs.

@Vis_M in which wiki you were planning to use it?

Nov 11 2020, 5:06 AM · MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs

Nov 9 2020

Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

@ppelberg just FYI that I added some quick CSS workarounds for problems mentioned earlier in this page.

Nov 9 2020, 7:20 PM · DiscussionTools

Oct 28 2020

Zache added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.
Oct 28 2020, 8:36 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Zache added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

There was also comment [1] that Reply-tool currently adds [ reply ] to archived parts of the discussion which should not be changed. These links can be hided even by local CSS so it is not blocker but just FYI that it is something which needs to be solved somehow.

Oct 28 2020, 8:05 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Zache added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Oh interesting, @Zache – does this Wikipedia:Poistoäänestykset/Katariina Räikkönen discussion [i] show what you are describing above?

Oct 28 2020, 7:42 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Oct 27 2020

Zache added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Is it possible to configure reply tools so that it would add [ reply ] link only when line starts with :? I think that there is newer such a case in Finnish Wikipedia when line starts with # or * when user should reply. All of those are either votes OR participants lists and actual discussion is in separated section.

Oct 27 2020, 4:45 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Oct 26 2020

Zache added a comment to T264859: Create Inari Sámi Wikipedia.

Article previews doesn't work because RESTBase config is broken? This is a visible problem because the article preview is toggled on by default in the settings.

Oct 26 2020, 10:23 AM · VPS-project-Wikistats, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.13; 2020-10-12), User-Urbanecm, Wiki-Setup (Create), Wikimedia-Language-setup

Oct 25 2020

Zache added a comment to T265290: Rediscover, review, and update the federation input process for WDQS.

I created a discussion on the wikidata project chat for defining the community side of the process.

Oct 25 2020, 9:37 AM · Discovery-Search (Current work), Wikidata, Wikidata-Query-Service

Oct 21 2020

Zache added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Deployment timing
Note, the Reply Tool was not made available as a Beta Feature at fi.wiki today, 20-October, as previously planned.

This happening is blocked on us, the Editing Team and volunteers at fi.wiki, coming up with a way resolution to T265291.

Oct 21 2020, 2:20 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

Also the proportion of users using 2017WTE+Syntax highlighting is probably relatively low, so this would only work for a minority of users.

Oct 21 2020, 2:08 PM · DiscussionTools

Oct 19 2020

Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

@Zache are you able to describe what you are referring to above in a bit more detail? I want to make sure I'm understanding what you are saying before responding.

Oct 19 2020, 7:45 PM · DiscussionTools
Zache added a comment to T265896: Add wbgetentities and wbgetclaims access to MWAPI config.

I don’t understand what this task is asking for. The proper way to access the Commons query service from the Wikidata query service would be through SPARQL federation, not MWAPI – as you certainly know, since you created T265891: Add Wikimedia Commons Query Service endpoint in the WDQS federation whitelist just before this task. The only reason I can think of to use MWAPI is because commons.wikimedia.org is already on the WDQS MWAPI allowlist…

Oct 19 2020, 6:00 PM · Wikidata-Query-Service, Wikidata
Zache created T265896: Add wbgetentities and wbgetclaims access to MWAPI config.
Oct 19 2020, 12:39 PM · Wikidata-Query-Service, Wikidata
Zache created T265891: Add Wikimedia Commons Query Service endpoint in the WDQS federation whitelist.
Oct 19 2020, 12:11 PM · Wikidata, Wikidata-Query-Service

Oct 17 2020

Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

! In T265291#6557038, @ppelberg wrote:
With the above said, we'd like to experiment with the Reply Tool not outputting any content/syntax that people did not explicitly type themselves to start.

Oct 17 2020, 10:56 AM · DiscussionTools

Oct 15 2020

Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

It seems that we could do spacing with nowiki also instead of html-comments. With nowiki broken comments would not fail silently.

Oct 15 2020, 11:56 AM · DiscussionTools

Oct 14 2020

Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

In the enwiki's help page, the spacing between items should be done using comments. Like this in wikicode.

Oct 14 2020, 6:54 PM · DiscussionTools
Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

@ppelberg It was to make editing the wikicode easier. The original proposal was in the village pump discussion "Selkeyttävä ehdotus in 2005. It was low volume and contained only three comments. The next village pump discussion which referred to empty lines in discussions was in 2015 (Muistutus_keskustelusivukäytännöstä) when Otrfan notified that writers should follow the new line guideline to make commenting more easier.

Oct 14 2020, 6:30 PM · DiscussionTools

Oct 13 2020

Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

Thanks. It however should be able to handle cases like this too (in wikicode) where comment is splitted to multiple dd:s.

Oct 13 2020, 3:39 AM · DiscussionTools
Zache added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

At HTML-level it looks like this. So, with newlines, the extra margin between rendered comments comes from the margin between separate lists. However, as Whatamidoing (WMF) noted in village pump the separated lists are an accessibility problem for screenreaders etc.

Oct 13 2020, 1:59 AM · DiscussionTools

Oct 1 2020

Zache added a comment to T264301: WLM 2019 statistics is missing.

Hmm, it seems to be working now though I tested the url before I submitted the bug report. If it stays up then this can ticket can be closed.

Oct 1 2020, 12:03 PM · Tool-wikiloves
Zache created T264301: WLM 2019 statistics is missing.
Oct 1 2020, 12:01 PM · Tool-wikiloves