@Ladsgroup I think that it would be good idea to increase the number of parallel edits from 2 to 4. It doesn't make the difference in terms of server load, but doubling the speed would make significant difference for the people who are moving small number of files (ie. under 200) as it would double the speed.

Assuming it will never be unlocked because of these scalability fears that keep being reported, perhaps we should start talking about how to migrate the data to the "front page" file template to enable multi-language search?

Just as a note that Intel Xeon Silver 4215 CPU's End of Servicing Updates Date is June 30, 2025. (source). It doesn't mean that it would stop working, but my guess is that it will be a start for deprecating it from infrastructure.

Wikimedia query service example link

Hi, confirmed that queries are working. Thank you very much!

The experience on WDQS shows that any attempt to scale the service (split, backend replacement) is prone to breaking changes which might cause a lot of frustration and additional work from data-reusers (query rewrite)

It is unclear what the use cases are for Structured Data on Commons. WCQS seems to be the main way to access that data (outside of dumps and browsing Commons). Different data consumption endpoints might be more useful than a SPARQL endpoint.

Data growth is ~1.5 Billion triples / year. This is likely to become a problem in the next 5 years on the current infrastructure.

Just as a note. I am using WCQS and my most use cases are

• download and track certain properties added to SDC ( Finna id, phash, dhash identifiers, author metadata of the photos, coordinates ... ) for FinnaUploadBot
• query images for articles without photos for the competitions (Federated queries between WQS, WCQS)
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Tabernacle example link

QLever on vastaava SPARQL-hakurajapinta kuin Query.wikidata.org (Wikidatan SPARQL-rajapinta) tai Sophox (OpenStreetMap:n rajapinta). Qlever on nopeampi kuin Wikidata/Sophoxin käyttämä Blazegraph-phjelmisto, mutta muutokset päivittyy sen tietokantaan hitaammin j. Tässä on joka tapauksessa kysely joka hakee Vallisaaren ja Kuninkaansaaren nimetyt kohteet listaksi (+ näyttää ruotsinkielisen nimen)

Reimarisaari, Pukkisaari, Kukipaasi ja Haminasalmenpaasi löytyvät paikannimirekisteristä, niin niille voisi lisätä myös paikannimirekisterin paikkatunnisteet (ominaisuus P4119). Paikannimirekisteristä ne löytyvät hakemalla sivuston oikean yläkulman hakukentällä. Paikannimirekisteristö löytyy myös alueiden viralliset nimet eri kielillä.

Btw, wgFlaggedRevsProtection mode works so that

• protection-like configurations = only limited number of pages are included in FlaggedRevs (ie. enwiki configuration )
• standard configurations = all pages in the selected namespace are included in FlaggedRevs (ie. dewiki configuration )

wgFlaggedRevsProtection AND code in
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs/blob/c0629632383688d04896a48865cab2675453eafc/includes/frontend/FlaggablePageView.php#L1092

In T374345#10384731, @Wargo wrote:

Until today the report and the talk suggested it is happening only for admins. The code also says that. Today you added new info.

The problem is that non-admins with the right doesn't have any way to stabilize page via user interface. It is not problem related to admins.

Wikidatassa on työkalu nimeltä Cradle uusien wikidata-kohteiden luomiseen lomakkeella

• https://cradle.toolforge.org

I added a workaround in fiwiki to mediawiki:group-reviewer.js which adds a link to p-cactions menu. ( Drop-down menu containing move, etc. (in Vector); subject/talk links and action links in other skins )

Lisäsin linkin SPARQL-kyselyyn joka näyttää kartalla ne kohteet joilla on Wikidata id eri värillä kuin ne joilla ei ole wikidata id:tä.

• https://w.wiki/CJVc

@Aklapper I picked this as already made least partially this in month ago by Yupik requests. I just didn't know that there was already ticket for this. I need still to check if I fully did this and if so i will close it.

There is ISCC property proposal in Wikidata

• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/ISCC

Just FYI here as well: @Msz2001 is running a bot for auto-reviewing new pages. It is currently active on dewiki, fiwiki, plwiki, and plwiktionary. Also, thanks to Msz2001 for doing this.

It was not visible for admins before this report. (I am admin in fiwiki)

Correct

There was one user who reported that after creating page from the red link the link in the original page doesn't change to blue. User said that he tried to purge the page cache and it didn't help. ( not sure if this was a single insident or if there was multiple ones )

Reported also in fiwiki https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(tekniikka)#Merkityissä_versioissa_taas_häikkää

There was mass reverting of bot edits done by reguest in admin noticeboard. It was done by using some mass reverting tool as system tagged edits as rollback by non admin user who was added temporarily to noratelimit user group for the task. This caused 35k edits and 60k category changes in hour. Level is similar than edit numbers by cat-a-lot which caused problems.

There is peak in category changes in Wikimedia Commons between 2024-10-29 23:00 - 2024-10-29 24:00 so it could be possible cause though.

Based on edit numbers there is nothing suspicious in cat-a-lot edits in Wikimedia Commons.

Just as a update, update is live now.

Thank you, it solved it!

@Theklan I have similar problem (see T376723) so my question is actually how it was solved?

just FYI, plan is to move this version to in use at next monday with two concurrent edits.

• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zache/cat-a-lot-edit-libAPI.20241008.js

In T281974#8883687, @Theklan wrote:

Thanks for the advice on changes. It worked nearly perfect. Do you know what parameter should be changed to get the coordinates before the logos?

@Theklan did you solve how to move coordinates before logos?

This is still reported on Wikimedia Commons

• https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Technical#Some_files_for_Wikisource_aren%27t_loading_properly_%28important%21%29

Error what I got when I tried the url. In any case I will raise the priority as this is broken in production site.

Best and wanted caption would be. still "Katedralskolanin liikuntasalin peruskorjauksessa löytyneet rauniot" .

@Stevemunene I reopened this because the task described in the ticket was only completed for query.wikidata.org, and it does not work yet on commons-query.wikimedia.org.

We can do so, but just as a note.

Thank you @RKemper!

I made a new ticket for fixing cat-a-lot.js (T375355) and there is now parallel edit version which limits the editing to 5 parallel edits and 1 if the maxlag is high.

About cat-a-lot. I made a version which does editing in series instead of parallel and one thing what I noticed that it takes more time to write them in series than using 1s sleep between new edits. Even without any templates in page the edit took almost 0.5s.

I have experience with three different types of queries where keeping the results has been important.

Would it be possible that there would be downloadable dump of the thumbnail images? Even better if they would not be small thumbnails but least 1024px, but anyway jpeg compressed so they would be reasonably sized.

My project scope is to being able to confirm if the image is visually identical with another image with minimal false positives / false negatives so it can be used in for confirming the image pairs in automatic processing. . For example, to confirm that some image in Wikimedia Commons is same than some image in GLAM archives. One usecase is preventing duplicates when uploading, but also knowing when updating metadata of the image that bot is updating the correct image.

In T368500#10127917, @Prototyperspective wrote:

Only shows "Search ready" after uploading a small jpeg file via Browse.

Confirmed that if preprosessing is toggled off and scaling is changed to LANCZOS the resulted image hashes are identical to Python imagehash library's phash.

libfastimagehash is a imagehash replacement for C/C++ ... The methods used to compute the image hashes are identical to the imagehash python library, however, due to some slight differences in the way OpenCV vs Pillow images are resized, the final image hashes are not always exactly the same.

• https://github.com/simon987/fastimagehash

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