The bot is now running under the toolforge command suggested at the VPT thread. I'll work on some other clean up issues such as using the env vars. dcaro, do you see any remaining issues that would prevent this from running once the grid shuts down next week?

OK, I've reverted to the code without dcaro's suggested changes -- that should be what you ran successfully.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Bot_that_maintains_GA_nominations_page_is_down -- @SD0001 offered to be a maintainer and has managed to get a run to work. I've added the lines you suggested to the k8s version of the code and tried running it via the toolforge command you give but it failed on pywikibot again. I'm a bit concerned that the advice you're giving me may conflict with what SD0001 has done -- they resolved the issue with importlib.metadata, which was independent of the code changes I was making to switch from the grid. As you can probably tell I'm not very knowledgeable about the infrastructure here so I appreciate the help from both of you.

Thanks, @JJMC89, I thought I'd responded to your post yesterday but apparently not. I removed the PYTHONPATH setting from my bash profile, and checked it is unset, and now it's complaining about pywikibot:

And it appears from the bot's logs that it actually stopped running just a few hours before, not long after midnight Pacific time. So when I began working on the upgrade from the grid engine it was already running into this problem, so it is presumably unrelated to that change.

I tried that, and it's now giving me the same importlib.metadata error as the old code which I suppose at least means I have the syntax right and it's trying to run. So it's the same problem either way -- can you tell me what I need to do to fix it? Thanks

@dcaro, what is much worse is that now I've reverted the code to the old version, it no longer runs. It's complaining about importlib.metadata:

@dcaro, I made the code changes (just to GANbot.py so far) and tried running the submit command as you give it:

I'll plan on doing the switchover this weekend. Can I make the code changes first and the job changes second, or do they have to be coordinated? E.g. if I make the code changes as you suggest, and run the code from the shell, will that work, or will it have to be executed via the new job mechanism to work?

@dcaro, thanks for the ping -- ganfilter doesn't use a webservice, so as far as I can tell the only thing that needs to happen is to change the cron from jsub. Currently the cron command is

It can be closed; it doesn't seem to be happening any longer. Thanks.

From a user's point of view, I think the best thing VE could do for articles with DEFAULTSORT not set is to put the text of the article title in the default sort field so it's available for editing, but if the user makes no changes to it, do not save it. Perhaps a greyed-out look could be used to indicate that the text is unchanged and won't be saved. This gives maximum convenience with minimum need for the user to comprehend what's going on, and does not constitute a dirty diff.

It doesn't seem to have been mentioned above that this bug can cause the loss of a citation, which might affect the severity or priority. If you have a ref inside a group note (e.g. inside a tag) and delete all other copies of the ref, including the base copy, VE is unable to transfer the base text to the copy of the ref in the tag, so the citation is lost.