Tested a couple videos, one free and other non-free, on iPhone 5s. Seems to be working as of now, though I can see "Low 144p" being used

In T380344#10349484, @CCiufo-WMF wrote:

I agree that if there is no specific need for this version bump, it's probably best to wait on T367821 since that will have the same effect on the current matrix.

I'm told that a separate (child sub)task is unnecessary, but we have two months until the Commons community decides to adjust the AbuseFilter in August.

As said by @Bugreporter at T380344#10339262, Safari doesn't use the "three years' prior revisions" rule for Modern (Grade A) support because the "Safari [on] iOS [cannot] be upgraded individually."

In T205171#10824715, @Samwilson wrote:

The answer currently is "you can't"! There is perhaps soon going to be a way to have MediaWiki-extensions-CodeMirror add features like this, so we could consider adding support that way (but that'd still be a toolbar of some sort).

Shall this task be stalled then? Many computers still use Windows 10, which still lacks TLS 1.3 support, and have yet to be upgraded to or replaced with Windows 11 or the Win 11 successor. We can revisit this when Windows 10 loses most of its market share by then.

In my case, it's happening on iOS/iPadOS 18.3.2 on Safari via iPad 9th-gen. Not so much on iOS 16.7.10 on Safari via iPhone 8.

Self-declining this task for now. I don't think Apple or app developers would support older versions of apps.

You know what? Let's render this moot, or decline this task for now. The latest app version now requires iOS/iPadOS 16.6 or later.

What about Speechify and Voice Dream? Neither is Google or Google-owned, but I hope these apps are supported. Furthermore, they're downloadable on iOS.

Since tasks on investigating compatibility with desktop screen readers have been closed as "invalid" or "declined", must we narrow this task to just mobile screen reader apps (on smartphones and tablets especially)?

I created a (re-)proposal subpage at Meta-wiki about this request.

Since I created this task, changes to the same page mentioned in the OP have been made. Well, the "If mobile" template was inserted to differentiate mobile and desktop views from each other and improve readability of mobile view.

To this date, the enwiki community has supported (the implementation of) restricting non-confirmed users (of enwiki) from migrating uploads into Commons.

The video of the "SD 360p" option seems to work for all files, but its audio no longer does for certain WebM and OGG videos. The audio still works for OGV files. My iPad's OS version is now iPadOS 17.7; not yet ready for iPadOS 18. Perhaps this task must have been something to do with that?

Tried Narrator on Microsoft Edge (Chromium) 109 on Windows 7. Somehow, it doesn't read Edge's web content, apparently. Nonetheless, at least Chromium Edge has its own Immersive Reader, which reads content aloud.

Almost forgot: I read some thread about Microsoft Narrator being incompatible with Google Chrome but works well with Chromium(?) Edge. And the thread is early this year, NOT years ago. As I can assume, this is concerning Windows 10 or 11.

Tested out Windows 7's version of the Narrator. The Narrator still works, but it won't read web content on Chrome and Firefox. Even it still doesn't read web content in private/incognito windows. The Narrator can read Firefox's tabs, but that's about it so far.

The TalkBack app isn't as intuitive and reliable as Google's Reading Mode app, honestly.

In India the 2018 the market leader (10m sales in 9 months) was the Xiaomi Redmi 5A. It costs around 5000 INR (~68 USD or about two weeks' median wages) and has 2GB RAM, a Quad-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 CPU and a 5.5in screen.

I think it is fair to call this smartphone "typical". Several other top sellers have 3GB-4GB RAM and cost considerably more. Entry-level Android devices with 512MB or 1GB RAM start at around 3000 INR (~40 USD).

Contacted Apple Support, and one of agents recommended (as one troubleshooting steps) upgrading a device to iOS/iPadOS 18, which to me may have issues at this point.

Any popular screen reader apps on iOS and/or Android so far?

@Aklapper Let's start with most popular Wikipedia website before other Wikimedia projects.

@Aklapper: Let's start with Wikipedia website (primarily desktop view) first before other Wikimedia projects to test the JAWS out. Unfortunately, as said, I don't have access to the pricier JAWS. A single-user license for permanent home use costs $1,000+. Annual home use costs $95 per year.

@Aklapper It could be any or most Wikimedia projects, but let's start with Wikipedia website first (and then the Wikipedia app desktop and mobile views) since it is the highly popular project so far.

@HNordeenWMF I just tested out the VoiceOver feature for the first time. (Settings app > Accessibility > VoiceOver > turn on VoiceOver) Did some practice. My initial experience with VoiceOver was harder than I thought without some more practice. Maybe I could get used to it, but the feature is not without flaws.

@Bean49 Chrome 128 (latest so far)? And which version of Windows 10 if not version 22H2, the latest and final version of Windows 10?

Just to clarify, the issue occurs in only Vector 2022 skin via older Google Chrome version (<128 or <127). I checked other browsers, like Safari and Firefox, and I saw no issues there... yet. I also checked other skins besides Vector 2022 and found no similar occurrences.

Now unable to view a video on the web of the app like this one on iOS 15.8.3 (recently released) in an iPhone 6s Plus. It's either still loading or unable to view the video. Able to view it on a third-party player app, like VLC.

@whym This task should apply to all tools performing cross-wiki uploads, IMHO. I can accept possibility that this task might be impossible to fully achieve on all applicable tools.

Let's say someone is autoconfirmed at English Wikipedia, but not on Commons. Would you want them to be allowed to upload or not? And vice versa?

Shouldn't be just autoconfirmed (or perhaps a new permission specific to upload dialog) on Commons? That would be more straightforward and make more sense to me.

Also test a non-free video from this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil_Wears_Prada_(film)#Cerulean_sweater_speech

What's your test device running iOS 10 then?

Most videos play well, alright. Certain videos still won't load, most of them non-free or using lo-res lower than SD 360. Not just Wikipedia app, but mobile web as well.

Hmm... Videos at the following seems to be working:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_a_raspberry
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boo_Moon
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Buck_Bunny

Hmm... I guess the task is too broad to investigate? I'll create a smaller task someday when I detect one of issues with Safari on visionOS.

Sorry, but still doesn't work on iPhone 6s on the mobile web and Wikipedia app without a third-party video player app. Its latest iOS version is 15.8.1

One thing I noticed is that if you are in visual edit mode on an article and you scroll back up to the top, it pushes you back where you were earlier in the article, but I don't know that this is visionOS-specific or if it affects iPadOS or iOS as well.

Admittedly, I don't have this year's Vision Pro, but I'll take your words and consider it resolved for now. A new task related to newer issues with the app on visionOS can be created here.

What about navigation experience and playing media content?