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Recent Activity

Today

ppelberg added a comment to T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand.

Task description update
ADDING:

  • As @Sdkb shared on mw.org here in the context of the New Discussion Tool:
    • Newcomers are not clear which call to action ("Edit," "Add topic" or "Ask a question") they ought to use to ask the question they came to ask.
    • It can be difficult for newcomers to post questions that comply with conventions considering 2 out of the 3 potential workflows ("Edit" and "Add topic") do not offer them any kind of guidance?
Tue, Oct 27, 1:52 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand.
Tue, Oct 27, 1:52 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg updated subscribers of T243249: New discussion v1.0: conduct usability testing.

Potential test question
@Parkywiki noted [i] how at en.wiki's Teahouse, many newcomers mistakenly add the question they are wanting help with to the page via the "Edit" button. In doing so, they end up adding said question to the end of an unrelated topic.

Tue, Oct 27, 1:26 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing Design, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0), Editing-team

Yesterday

ppelberg added a comment to T265956: Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach.

Call for feedback
I've drafted announcement we'll use to invite feedback on Office wiki (limited access): https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:PPelberg_(WMF)/sandbox#Talk%3ATalk_pages_project%2FNew_discussion.

Mon, Oct 26, 10:57 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg moved T265499: Allow users to turn on DiscussionTools via some JavaScript hack from Blocked / Needs More Work to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.

WFM on en.wiki

Mon, Oct 26, 3:48 PM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.14; 2020-10-20), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg updated the task description for T266303: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 3" wikis .
Mon, Oct 26, 4:16 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T266303: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 3" wikis .
Mon, Oct 26, 4:11 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020

Sat, Oct 24

ppelberg added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

Note: next steps on this ticket are blocked on outcome of the conversation happening on fi.wiki here: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(sekalaista)#New_Beta_Feature_next_week.

Sat, Oct 24, 2:48 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T243249: New discussion v1.0: conduct usability testing from 📢 To Do to 📐 Doing on the Editing Design board.
Sat, Oct 24, 2:34 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing Design, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0), Editing-team
ppelberg closed T252847: [SPIKE-1hr] Identify high impact Chromium/Webkit bugs as Resolved.

I'm boldly closing this considering @dchan already reviewed the spreadsheet and Noam's contract is likely to have finished by now.

Sat, Oct 24, 1:05 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-ContentEditable
ppelberg closed T243868: VisualEditor ignores autogenerated parameter info for templates without TemplateData as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 1:02 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.18; 2020-02-04), TemplateData, VisualEditor-MediaWiki
ppelberg closed T178976: When VE is disabled but NWE is enabled and wiki is in multi-tab mode, initialization code for the "Edit" tab doesn't run as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 1:02 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.19; 2020-02-11), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
ppelberg moved T265499: Allow users to turn on DiscussionTools via some JavaScript hack from Ready for Sign Off to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Sat, Oct 24, 1:02 AM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.14; 2020-10-20), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T178976: When VE is disabled but NWE is enabled and wiki is in multi-tab mode, initialization code for the "Edit" tab doesn't run, a subtask of T190989: On the desktop site, editing the lead section of a page under MinervaNeue skin directs a user to one of desktop WikiEditors, as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 1:01 AM · User-Ryasmeen, MinervaNeue (Desktop), VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Page-editing
ppelberg moved T227894: [EPIC] User Testing Outcomes from Ready for Sign Off to Quarterly Goals on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Sat, Oct 24, 1:01 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor-Edit Cards , Editing Design
ppelberg added a comment to T264478: Changes to DiscussionTools internals to better support watching/notifications.

We still need some concept of sub-sections so that watching a parent section notifies you about comments in subsections

@matmarex can you describe how these "define" the boundaries of a topic? E.g. Does the software consider topic to be bounded by ==H2==?

Sat, Oct 24, 1:00 AM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.16; 2020-11-03), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T258815: WikEdDiff and DiscussionTool's Reply feature don't always work together from Ready for Sign Off to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:58 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, MediaWiki-extensions-WikEdDiff
ppelberg closed T264693: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature at Phase 2 wikis as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:58 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, Turkish-Sites, Tamil-Sites, Hindi-Sites, Spanish-Sites, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg moved T260833: Unexpected Reply button in edit summary in Diff page from Ready for Sign Off to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:57 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T260108: [reply] from diff creates very tight column from Ready for Sign Off to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:57 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T264693: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature at Phase 2 wikis, a subtask of T264691: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 2" wikis , as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:57 AM · Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T264693: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature at Phase 2 wikis.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:57 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, Turkish-Sites, Tamil-Sites, Hindi-Sites, Spanish-Sites, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T252555: Perform addReplyLinks on the server, a subtask of T260108: [reply] from diff creates very tight column, as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:55 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T252555: Perform addReplyLinks on the server, a subtask of T258815: WikEdDiff and DiscussionTool's Reply feature don't always work together, as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:55 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, MediaWiki-extensions-WikEdDiff
ppelberg closed T252555: Perform addReplyLinks on the server as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:55 AM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.14; 2020-10-20), Verified, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T252555: Perform addReplyLinks on the server, a subtask of T260833: Unexpected Reply button in edit summary in Diff page, as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:55 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T252555: Perform addReplyLinks on the server, a subtask of T263344: DiscussionTools tries to reply to log entries?, as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:55 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), User-DannyS712, DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T261709: Change ar.wiki ping prefix as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:55 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T263344: DiscussionTools tries to reply to log entries? as Resolved.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:55 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), User-DannyS712, DiscussionTools
ppelberg updated the task description for T247139: Workflow engagement check: Replying v1.0 & v2.0.
Sat, Oct 24, 12:49 AM · Product-Analytics (Kanban), OWC2020 (Reply Tool Opt Out), Patch-For-Review, Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a comment to T247139: Workflow engagement check: Replying v1.0 & v2.0.

! In T247139#6568676, @ppelberg wrote:
...we can reflect the decisions we come to in a single comment here and then any necessary changes to the task description.

The decisions @MNeisler and I came to are summarized below; the task description has been updated to reflect the changes resulting from these decisions.

REFINEMENTS

  1. Are people publishing the replies they start?
  • CHANGE how we are measuring the comment completion rate so we can understand the full comment funnel. Said another way, we'd like to know:

✅ We're going to measure the edit completion rate such that we can see at what steps in comment funnel people might be dropping out.

  • ADD grouping by experience level for each of the above

✅ We're going to measure this.

  • ADD grouping by editing interface – source and visual – for each of the above
  • ADD a baseline of the above for full-page wikitext editing so we have a baseline to compare to.

✅ We're going to measure this.

  1. Are people abandoning the replies they start?
  • REMOVE

❗️We're not going to measure this.

  1. Are people satisfied with the feature?

The thinking below is based on the thinking we did in T249386#6283682 .

  • ADD how many people posted a comment with the tool on only one day?

✅ We're going to measure this.

  • ADD how many people posted a comment with the tool on ___ (see grouping below) distinct days:

✅ We're going to measure this.

  • ADD % of talk page edits people make with the Reply Tool, grouped by experience level and platform.

❗️We're not going to measure this.

  • ADD the number of people who are posting varying numbers of comments with the Reply Tool:

✅ We're going to measure this.

  • ADD how many distinct people have explicitly turned off the Reply Tool preference (name: Enable quick replying) in Special:Preferences

✅ We're going to measure this now that T260867 is resolved.

Sat, Oct 24, 12:32 AM · Product-Analytics (Kanban), OWC2020 (Reply Tool Opt Out), Patch-For-Review, Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools

Fri, Oct 23

ppelberg created T266376: Analyze special characters toolbar usage.
Fri, Oct 23, 11:18 PM · OWC2020 (Reply Tool Opt Out), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a comment to T265953: Identify New Discussion Tool "partner wikis".

@Whatamidoing-WMF: I've started drafted the selection criteria in this sheet (also linked in the task description): Talk pages project/Partner wiki selection.

Fri, Oct 23, 11:07 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg updated the task description for T263820: Use case #2: Ensure people are aware when something new is said in a conversation they are following.
Fri, Oct 23, 9:32 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg removed a project from T263819: Use case 1: Ensure people are aware when someone is talking to them: Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board).
Fri, Oct 23, 9:27 PM · DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg removed a project from T263821: Use case #3: Ensure people are aware when someone starts a conversation about a topic they are interested in: Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board).
Fri, Oct 23, 9:27 PM · DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg moved T258832: Mobile section editing summary erroneously shows the page's first section title in some circumstances from Ready for Sign Off to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.

@matmarex are you able to verify the patch is working as expected?

Fri, Oct 23, 1:45 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile
ppelberg updated subscribers of T265499: Allow users to turn on DiscussionTools via some JavaScript hack.

@Esanders notes: the JS will only work on wikis that do not have DiscussionTool enabled in any way (e.g. it can not be enabled as a Beta Feature or an opt-out user preference).

Fri, Oct 23, 1:32 AM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.14; 2020-10-20), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T263255: (semi-)page protection editnotices in VisualEditor display in the wrong order as Resolved.
Fri, Oct 23, 1:27 AM · User-Ryasmeen, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.14; 2020-10-20), Skipped QA, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), UX-Debt, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, VisualEditor
ppelberg closed T265798: Empty edit notices still shown if message is deliberately blanked as Resolved.
Fri, Oct 23, 1:25 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Skipped QA, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.14; 2020-10-20), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor
ppelberg added a comment to T263266: $linkPrefixCharset is too broad in Arabic.

I'm boldly resolving this task for now.

Fri, Oct 23, 1:24 AM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.12; 2020-10-05; NEVER DEPLOYED), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MediaWiki-General, I18n, DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T263266: $linkPrefixCharset is too broad in Arabic, a subtask of T261750: Default $linkPrefixCharset is too broad, as Resolved.
Fri, Oct 23, 1:22 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MediaWiki-General, I18n, DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T263266: $linkPrefixCharset is too broad in Arabic, a subtask of T261709: Change ar.wiki ping prefix, as Resolved.
Fri, Oct 23, 1:22 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T263266: $linkPrefixCharset is too broad in Arabic as Resolved.
Fri, Oct 23, 1:22 AM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.12; 2020-10-05; NEVER DEPLOYED), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MediaWiki-General, I18n, DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a comment to T261423: Mobile should inherit desktop editing preferences.

We should probably change the mobile editor preference to be a database-stored user preference, rather than using localStorage.

Here is a ticket for what you are describing: T266304.

Fri, Oct 23, 12:44 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile
ppelberg moved T266304: Change mobile editor preference to a database-stored preference from Needs Discussion / Investigation to Upcoming on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Fri, Oct 23, 12:43 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile
ppelberg created T266304: Change mobile editor preference to a database-stored preference .
Fri, Oct 23, 12:43 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile
ppelberg removed a subtask for T251207: [Epic] Scale DiscussionTools to all Wikipedias: T266303: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 3" wikis .
Fri, Oct 23, 12:31 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg edited parent tasks for T266303: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 3" wikis , added: T259315: Deploy Reply Tool as Beta Features to all Wikipedias; removed: T251207: [Epic] Scale DiscussionTools to all Wikipedias.
Fri, Oct 23, 12:31 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg added a subtask for T259315: Deploy Reply Tool as Beta Features to all Wikipedias: T266303: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 3" wikis .
Fri, Oct 23, 12:31 AM · Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg created T266303: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 3" wikis .
Fri, Oct 23, 12:31 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020

Thu, Oct 22

ppelberg moved T265099: Differentiate between events emitted from the Reply Tool and the New Discussion Tool from Ready for Development to Doing on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Thu, Oct 22, 5:29 PM · Product-Analytics, DiscussionTools, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board)
ppelberg added a comment to T251350: (Re)consider wikicode stucture generated by the Reply tool.

@Samat, are you able to share links to the, "...the guidelines and the common practice on some projects..." you are referencing in the task description?

Thu, Oct 22, 4:49 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg updated the task description for T257391: Add tools to DiscussionTools' source mode.
Thu, Oct 22, 3:25 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
ppelberg updated the task description for T257391: Add tools to DiscussionTools' source mode.
Thu, Oct 22, 3:25 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T238332: Retried-load results in document showing twice as Resolved.
Thu, Oct 22, 1:50 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.10; 2019-12-10), Regression
ppelberg added a comment to T238332: Retried-load results in document showing twice.

@ppelberg to check to see if this is still and issue based on the steps in Bartosz's comment

Thu, Oct 22, 1:49 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.10; 2019-12-10), Regression
ppelberg closed T206278: VisualEditor crashes when undoing paste of external link into nested list item as Resolved.

@ppelberg will see if this is still happening and determine if it can be closed

Thu, Oct 22, 1:40 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-ContentEditable
ppelberg added a comment to T178976: When VE is disabled but NWE is enabled and wiki is in multi-tab mode, initialization code for the "Edit" tab doesn't run.

@ppelberg will test this task

Thu, Oct 22, 1:35 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.19; 2020-02-11), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor
ppelberg closed T206022: Audio file embeds have messed up thumbnails in VisualEditor as Resolved.

Static image of an audio player seems to be appearing:

Thu, Oct 22, 1:34 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.20; 2020-02-18), Patch-For-Review, VisualEditor, MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.3; 2019-04-30), VisualEditor-Media, VisualEditor-MediaWiki
ppelberg created T266203: [SPIKE] Map current Junior Contributors' current notification experience.
Thu, Oct 22, 1:18 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T265956: Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach.

Task description update
I've added the "Questions" we will seek answers to and the "Context" we will share alongside those questions to the task description.

Thu, Oct 22, 1:13 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg updated the task description for T265956: Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach.
Thu, Oct 22, 1:11 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)

Wed, Oct 21

ppelberg moved T261423: Mobile should inherit desktop editing preferences from Ready for Sign Off to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Oct 21, 9:10 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile
ppelberg placed T261423: Mobile should inherit desktop editing preferences up for grabs.
Wed, Oct 21, 9:10 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile
ppelberg moved T227894: [EPIC] User Testing Outcomes from Quarterly Goals to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Oct 21, 8:47 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), VisualEditor-Edit Cards , Editing Design
ppelberg updated the task description for T257391: Add tools to DiscussionTools' source mode.
Wed, Oct 21, 5:24 PM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools
ppelberg assigned T264779: [REQUEST] Review the MediaSearch API before using it in Visual Editor image search to Esanders.

Assigning this to @Esanders to determine what changes this new API is implementing and what – if any – corresponding changes will be made in VE to support it/them.

Wed, Oct 21, 5:20 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Editing-Team-Request
ppelberg added a comment to T265499: Allow users to turn on DiscussionTools via some JavaScript hack.

@Esanders notes: the JS will only work on wikis that do not have DiscussionTool enabled in any way (e.g. it can not be enabled as a Beta Feature or an opt-out user preference).

Wed, Oct 21, 5:18 PM · MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.14; 2020-10-20), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg edited projects for T251350: (Re)consider wikicode stucture generated by the Reply tool, added: Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board); removed Editing-team (Tracking).
Wed, Oct 21, 4:59 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg updated subscribers of T260467: Create a change tag for edits made using the New Discussion Tool.

There's a label, it's defined with:

"tag-discussiontools-newtopic": "Add topic",
"tag-discussiontools-newtopic-description": "User added a new topic to the page with DiscussionTools",

Roger that – thank you, David.

Wed, Oct 21, 4:00 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg moved T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki from Ready for Development to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Oct 21, 3:49 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T247139: Workflow engagement check: Replying v1.0 & v2.0.

@ppelberg - I reviewed the task scope and suggested refinements.

For ease of editing, I copied the workflow scope and refinements into a google doc. My revisions are noted in my comments and suggested changes in the doc. Let me know if you have any questions.

Wed, Oct 21, 3:48 PM · Product-Analytics (Kanban), OWC2020 (Reply Tool Opt Out), Patch-For-Review, Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Deployment timing
Note, the Reply Tool was not made available as a Beta Feature at fi.wiki today, 20-October, as previously planned.

This happening is blocked on us, the Editing Team and volunteers at fi.wiki, coming up with a way resolution to T265291.

Your comment was a little unclear. Does this mean that you are actually doing something for the problem with ETA or that fiwiki should change the policy before you are ready to deploy?

Ah, I'm sorry about that. [i]

Wed, Oct 21, 3:46 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a project to T265964: Handling for "fake headings" using ; syntax (<dt> tags): Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board).
Wed, Oct 21, 3:16 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg closed T263050: Check scale of Reply Tool usage as Resolved.

@MNeisler, what you shared in T263050#6565226 makes sense to me and sounds good.

Wed, Oct 21, 12:47 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Product-Analytics (Kanban)
ppelberg updated the task description for T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.
Wed, Oct 21, 12:28 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated subscribers of T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.
Wed, Oct 21, 12:26 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Deployment timing
Note, the Reply Tool was not made available as a Beta Feature at fi.wiki today, 20-October, as previously planned.

Wed, Oct 21, 12:26 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Mon, Oct 19

ppelberg updated the task description for T265953: Identify New Discussion Tool "partner wikis".
Mon, Oct 19, 11:44 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg added a comment to T265953: Identify New Discussion Tool "partner wikis".

@Whatamidoing-WMF: I've started drafted the selection criteria in this sheet (also linked in the task description): Talk pages project/Partner wiki selection.

Mon, Oct 19, 11:35 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg edited projects for T265953: Identify New Discussion Tool "partner wikis", added: Editing-team (Tracking); removed Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board).
Mon, Oct 19, 11:34 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg renamed T265956: Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach from Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool approach to Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach.
Mon, Oct 19, 10:59 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg updated the task description for T265956: Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach.
Mon, Oct 19, 10:58 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg updated the task description for T265956: Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach.
Mon, Oct 19, 10:53 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg created T265956: Learn what volunteers think of New Discussion Tool design approach.
Mon, Oct 19, 10:49 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg created T265953: Identify New Discussion Tool "partner wikis".
Mon, Oct 19, 10:43 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg moved T243249: New discussion v1.0: conduct usability testing from 📚 Backlog to 📢 To Do on the Editing Design board.
Mon, Oct 19, 8:44 PM · DiscussionTools, Editing Design, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0), Editing-team
ppelberg added a comment to T265101: Instrument event logging for VE's image search.

Task description update
I've added the following to the task description's ===Done section:

  • Editing Team to provide code review for newly instrumented events
Mon, Oct 19, 8:23 PM · SDAW-MediaSearch (MediaSearch-ReleaseCandidate), Product-Infrastructure-Data, Structured-Data-Backlog (Current Work), Editing-team (Tracking), Editing-Team-Request, VisualEditor
ppelberg updated the task description for T265101: Instrument event logging for VE's image search.
Mon, Oct 19, 8:21 PM · SDAW-MediaSearch (MediaSearch-ReleaseCandidate), Product-Infrastructure-Data, Structured-Data-Backlog (Current Work), Editing-team (Tracking), Editing-Team-Request, VisualEditor
ppelberg added a comment to T263050: Check scale of Reply Tool usage.

Thank you for pulling this together, @MNeisler. A few comments and clarifying questions in line, below...

Mon, Oct 19, 7:55 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Product-Analytics (Kanban)
ppelberg added a comment to T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.

! In T265291#6557038, @ppelberg wrote:
With the above said, we'd like to experiment with the Reply Tool not outputting any content/syntax that people did not explicitly type themselves to start.

So technical options are

1.) for old wikieditor to changes to wikitext syntax which is not plausible(?)

  • @Zache are you able to describe what you are referring to above in a bit more detail? I want to make sure I'm understanding what you are saying before responding.
Mon, Oct 19, 7:11 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a comment to T260467: Create a change tag for edits made using the New Discussion Tool.

Notes from this morning's standup

  • @Esanders can you check in the code to see whether a label has been defined for the 'discussiontools-newtopic' tag? And if so, what the label has been defined as?
Mon, Oct 19, 6:52 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020 (New Discussion 1.0)
ppelberg added a parent task for T265829: Introduce the reply tool to Japanese Wikivoyage: T251207: [Epic] Scale DiscussionTools to all Wikipedias.
Mon, Oct 19, 3:59 PM · DiscussionTools, Wikimedia-Site-requests
ppelberg added a subtask for T251207: [Epic] Scale DiscussionTools to all Wikipedias: T265829: Introduce the reply tool to Japanese Wikivoyage.
Mon, Oct 19, 3:59 PM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand.
Mon, Oct 19, 3:57 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg moved T265099: Differentiate between events emitted from the Reply Tool and the New Discussion Tool from Upcoming to Ready for Development on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Mon, Oct 19, 3:45 PM · Product-Analytics, DiscussionTools, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board)

Sat, Oct 17

ppelberg updated the task description for T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand.
Sat, Oct 17, 1:16 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand.

Neat use of custom stylings for conversation topic headings at it.wikipedia:

Italian Wikipedia custom talk styling
Link: https://w.wiki/hA4
Sat, Oct 17, 1:16 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg moved T264520: Don't add nowiki tags in visual mode (or allow opting out) from Ready for Sign Off to Blocked / Needs More Work on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Sat, Oct 17, 12:36 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), User-DannyS712, DiscussionTools