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This task is about implementing a new experience for not-yet-created/empty non-user talk pages. Where "non-user talk pages" in this context means any talk page that exists in the following [namespaces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace): |Namespace number| Description | |---|--- |1| Main/Article talk | 5|Wikipedia talk | 7|File talk | 9|MediaWiki talk | 11|Template talk | 13| Help talk | 15| Category talk | 101| Portal talk | 119| Draft talk | 711| TimedText talk | 829|Module talk === User stories **Understanding the purpose of the page** - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to instantly understand the purpose of the page [i] I am now viewing, so that I can decide whether I should engage with the page more deeply or leave/go somewhere else. - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created and generally knows what the purpose of the page [i] is, I want to know where I can learn more about the page, so that I can feel more confident posting something to it. **Initiating a conversation** - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, understands the purpose of the page [i], and who has a question they would like to ask/a topic they want to discuss with others, I want to know what I need to do to draft and publish that question/thought in a way others are likely to see and understand so that I can receive the input/guidance/etc. I need to help improve the encyclopedia. - As a Junior Contributor who has just published a question/thought to a talk page, I want to know I've done so successfully so I do not need to wonder if there are additional steps I need to take to ensure people will see what I have to say. **Editing the page** - As a Senior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to be able to add content to the page (e.g. add a [talk page template](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Mod%C3%A8le_de_bandeau_de_page_de_discussion) without being constrained by the New Discussion Tool's `Title` / `Description` fields so that I can relate the talk page to others like it and/or signal to future visitors/editors information about the page to which the talk page is related. -- //Example: adding a Wikiproject template, like [{{WikiProject Jazz}}](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Jazz)), to the page. Note: this behavior is most common at en.wiki.// === Mockups This section will contain designs for the "empty non-user talk page" experiences on **mobile** and **desktop**. === Requirements Mockups should be created for both **desktop** and **mobile** user experiences. **New specification as of 6/2/2021**: Create some variations of the mock up to share with Editing team based on notes [[ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_2XdbhEDhCmff4Ea3X7AEZntu_78ZuxpjBvlLx1BGks/edit#heading=h.uou5etl28jg | here ]]. === Open questions - [ ] What – if any – edit notices should people seeking to start a new conversation on a talk page that does not yet exist be notified about? === Done - [ ] Designs for mobile and desktop that fulfill the stories defined above are posted to the `Mockups` section. --- i. Purpose of the page: a space to communicate with other volunteers about the page to which the talk page is related/attached.

This task is about implementing a new experience for not-yet-created/empty non-user talk pages. Where "non-user talk pages" in this context means any talk page that exists in the following [namespaces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace): |Namespace number| Description | |---|--- |1| Main/Article talk | 5|Wikipedia talk | 7|File talk | 9|MediaWiki talk | 11|Template talk | 13| Help talk | 15| Category talk | 101| Portal talk | 119| Draft talk | 711| TimedText talk | 829|Module talk === User stories **Understanding the purpose of the page** - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to instantly understand the purpose of the page [i] I am now viewing, so that I can decide whether I should engage with the page more deeply or leave/go somewhere else. - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created and generally knows what the purpose of the page [i] is, I want to know where I can learn more about the page, so that I can feel more confident posting something to it. **Initiating a conversation** - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, understands the purpose of the page [i], and who has a question they would like to ask/a topic they want to discuss with others, I want to know what I need to do to draft and publish that question/thought in a way others are likely to see and understand so that I can receive the input/guidance/etc. I need to help improve the encyclopedia. - As a Junior Contributor who has just published a question/thought to a talk page, I want to know I've done so successfully so I do not need to wonder if there are additional steps I need to take to ensure people will see what I have to say. **Editing the page** - As a Senior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to be able to add content to the page (e.g. add a [talk page template](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Mod%C3%A8le_de_bandeau_de_page_de_discussion) without being constrained by the New Discussion Tool's `Title` / `Description` fields so that I can relate the talk page to others like it and/or signal to future visitors/editors information about the page to which the talk page is related. -- //Example: adding a Wikiproject template, like [{{WikiProject Jazz}}](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Jazz)), to the page. Note: this behavior is most common at en.wiki.// === Mockups This section will contain designs for the "empty non-user talk page" experiences on **mobile** and **desktop**. === Requirements Mockups should be created for both **desktop** and **mobile** user experiences. **New specification as of 6/2/2021**: Create some variations of the mock up to share with Editing team based on notes [[ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_2XdbhEDhCmff4Ea3X7AEZntu_78ZuxpjBvlLx1BGks/edit#heading=h.uou5etl28jg | here ]]. === Open questions - [ ] What – if any – edit notices should people seeking to start a new conversation on a talk page that does not yet exist be notified about? === Done - [x] Designs for mobile and desktop that fulfill the stories defined above are posted to the `Mockups` section. --- i. Purpose of the page: a space to communicate with other volunteers about the page to which the talk page is related/attached.

This task is about implementing a new experience for not-yet-created/empty non-user talk pages. Where "non-user talk pages" in this context means any talk page that exists in the following [namespaces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace): |Namespace number| Description | |---|--- |1| Main/Article talk | 5|Wikipedia talk | 7|File talk | 9|MediaWiki talk | 11|Template talk | 13| Help talk | 15| Category talk | 101| Portal talk | 119| Draft talk | 711| TimedText talk | 829|Module talk === User stories **Understanding the purpose of the page** - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to instantly understand the purpose of the page [i] I am now viewing, so that I can decide whether I should engage with the page more deeply or leave/go somewhere else. - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created and generally knows what the purpose of the page [i] is, I want to know where I can learn more about the page, so that I can feel more confident posting something to it. **Initiating a conversation** - As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, understands the purpose of the page [i], and who has a question they would like to ask/a topic they want to discuss with others, I want to know what I need to do to draft and publish that question/thought in a way others are likely to see and understand so that I can receive the input/guidance/etc. I need to help improve the encyclopedia. - As a Junior Contributor who has just published a question/thought to a talk page, I want to know I've done so successfully so I do not need to wonder if there are additional steps I need to take to ensure people will see what I have to say. **Editing the page** - As a Senior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to be able to add content to the page (e.g. add a [talk page template](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Mod%C3%A8le_de_bandeau_de_page_de_discussion) without being constrained by the New Discussion Tool's `Title` / `Description` fields so that I can relate the talk page to others like it and/or signal to future visitors/editors information about the page to which the talk page is related. -- //Example: adding a Wikiproject template, like [{{WikiProject Jazz}}](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Jazz)), to the page. Note: this behavior is most common at en.wiki.// === Mockups This section will contain designs for the "empty non-user talk page" experiences on **mobile** and **desktop**. === Requirements Mockups should be created for both **desktop** and **mobile** user experiences. **New specification as of 6/2/2021**: Create some variations of the mock up to share with Editing team based on notes [[ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_2XdbhEDhCmff4Ea3X7AEZntu_78ZuxpjBvlLx1BGks/edit#heading=h.uou5etl28jg | here ]]. === Open questions - [ ] What – if any – edit notices should people seeking to start a new conversation on a talk page that does not yet exist be notified about? === Done - [ - [x] Designs for mobile and desktop that fulfill the stories defined above are posted to the `Mockups` section. --- i. Purpose of the page: a space to communicate with other volunteers about the page to which the talk page is related/attached.