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Goal: understand possibilities and limitations of naming references automatically when reused in VE. Output: a summary of what is possible and not possible include in an automatic name. **Problem statement** I am an editor editing in wikitext I'm trying to edit an article and I come across the automatic :number names of named references created by VE But I don't know which references they are referring to Because the automatic :number name of a reused reference doesn't give an indication of the named citation content. It also doesn't reliably match the footnote marker numbers. **Current situation** * VE gives automatic names to references that do not have a name the moment they are reused for the first time from within VE * Automatic names contain only numbers and no semantic connection to the source (makes them hard to use) * They start with a colon character that looks like it’s some kind of syntax users are not allowed to touch, but it’s really only an (arbitrary) string prefix (e.g. :1, :2) * [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Footnotes#WP:REFNAME | Help:Footnotes ]] - Wikipedia says that purely numeric numbers should not be used (see also T92432#6350118) * Automatic names are only editable in wikitext (not in VE) * In wikitext users create names for references when reusing references * Sometimes a template auto-generates the name * User generated names and automatic names are displayed together in wikitext **Notes** * Requested via: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Technische_W%C3%BCnsche/Topw%C3%BCnsche/Wiederverwendung_von_Einzelnachweisen#Vorlagenbearbeitung_bietet_keine_Wiederverwendung_von_Einzelnachweisen;_Defaultnamen * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92432 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2023/Editing/VisualEditor_should_use_proper_names_for_references * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Editing/VisualEditor_should_use_human-like_names_for_references * Note: user script which improves autonaming exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog/RefRenamer See also https://app.asana.com/0/1203688298459190/1203688304080802

**Goal: understand possibilities and limitations of naming references automatically when reused in VE. Output: a summary of what is possible and not possible include in an automatic name.** **Problem statement** I am an editor editing in wikitext I'm trying to edit an article and I come across the automatic :number names of named references created by VE But I don't know which references they are referring to Because the automatic :number name of a reused reference doesn't give an indication of the named citation content. It also doesn't reliably match the footnote marker numbers. **Current situation** * VE gives automatic names to references that do not have a name the moment they are reused for the first time from within VE * Automatic names contain only numbers and no semantic connection to the source (makes them hard to use) * They start with a colon character that looks like it’s some kind of syntax users are not allowed to touch, but it’s really only an (arbitrary) string prefix (e.g. :1, :2) * [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Footnotes#WP:REFNAME | Help:Footnotes ]] - Wikipedia says that purely numeric numbers should not be used (see also T92432#6350118) * Automatic names are only editable in wikitext (not in VE) * In wikitext users create names for references when reusing references * Sometimes a template auto-generates the name * User generated names and automatic names are displayed together in wikitext **Notes** * Requested via: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Technische_W%C3%BCnsche/Topw%C3%BCnsche/Wiederverwendung_von_Einzelnachweisen#Vorlagenbearbeitung_bietet_keine_Wiederverwendung_von_Einzelnachweisen;_Defaultnamen * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92432 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2023/Editing/VisualEditor_should_use_proper_names_for_references * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Editing/VisualEditor_should_use_human-like_names_for_references * Note: user script which improves autonaming exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog/RefRenamer See also https://app.asana.com/0/1203688298459190/1203688304080802

**Goal: understand possibilities and limitations of naming references automatically when reused in VE. Output: a summary of what is possible and not possible include in an automatic name.** **Problem statement** I am an editor editing in wikitext I'm trying to edit an article and I come across the automatic :number names of named references created by VE But I don't know which references they are referring to Because the automatic :number name of a reused reference doesn't give an indication of the named citation content. It also doesn't reliably match the footnote marker numbers. **Current situation** * VE gives automatic names to references that do not have a name the moment they are reused for the first time from within VE * Automatic names contain only numbers and no semantic connection to the source (makes them hard to use) * They start with a colon character that looks like it’s some kind of syntax users are not allowed to touch, but it’s really only an (arbitrary) string prefix (e.g. :1, :2) * [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Footnotes#WP:REFNAME | Help:Footnotes ]] - Wikipedia says that purely numeric numbers should not be used (see also T92432#6350118) * Automatic names are only editable in wikitext (not in VE) * In wikitext users create names for references when reusing references * Sometimes a template auto-generates the name * User generated names and automatic names are displayed together in wikitext **Notes** * Requested via: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Technische_W%C3%BCnsche/Topw%C3%BCnsche/Wiederverwendung_von_Einzelnachweisen#Vorlagenbearbeitung_bietet_keine_Wiederverwendung_von_Einzelnachweisen;_Defaultnamen * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92432 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2023/Editing/VisualEditor_should_use_proper_names_for_references * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Editing/VisualEditor_should_use_human-like_names_for_references * Note: user script which improves autonaming exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog/RefRenamer See also https://app.asana.com/0/1203688298459190/1203688304080802