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This task is about creating a way for page "maintainers" to opt-in to having the New Discussion Tool enabled for new topic/section workflows that use [preloads](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text). Reason for doing this: to avoid scenarios where the New Discussion Tool inadvertently guides people who are new to add content to talk pages in ways that would be disruptive to others. === Approaches //Not an exhaustive list...// - **1. Introduce a new parameter** -- This new parameter would indicate whether a version of the page's `section=new` preload has been created that is compatible with the New Discussion Tool. Where "compatible" [i] could mean: --- Instructions are included within the `editintro` parameter instead of wikitext comments (`<!--...-->`) --- If you have a signature in the preloaded text, ensure it's at the end so that the tool doesn't insert another one --- Avoid `{{subst:…}}` syntax --- Remove redundant instructions, like advising people to sign the new topic they create. === Open questions - [ ] **1.** On pages that have opted-in to using the New Discussion Tool for preloads, what input mode should people see when opening the tool in its "preloaded" state //by default//? - [ ] **2.** On pages that have opted-in to using the New Discussion Tool for preloads, is it possible for the maintainers of these pages to specify which of the New Discussion Tool's text input modes – `source` or `visual` – people using the tool on these pages will see by default? If yes, how might these people go about specifying this preference? - [ ] **3.** For people who manage pages considering enabling the New Discussion Tool for preloads, what might be a good way to communicate the way they ought to format the page's preloaded content such that it "cooperates" with the New Discussion Tool's `visual` mode. / -- //More context in: T269310#6699739.// === Done - [ ] All `===Open` questions are answered - [ ] An `===Approach` is selected - [ ] The selected `===Approach` is implemented --- i. See more in T269310#6699739.

This task is about creating a way for page "maintainers" to opt-in to having the New Discussion Tool enabled for new topic/section workflows that use [preloads](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text). Reason for doing this: to avoid scenarios where the New Discussion Tool inadvertently guides people who are new to add content to talk pages in ways that would be disruptive to others. === Requirements - People who maintain discussion pages (call them "page maintainers") that use [preloads ](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text) to populate the existing `section=new` form have the ability to decide what new discussion experience (read: the New Discussion Tool or the existing `section=new` form) people see, by default, when interacting with an affordance that invokes said "preload." - "Page maintainers" who opt-into the New Discussion Tool should be able to customize the "preloaded" content that appears in the tool. This preloaded content should coexist with whatever preloaded content is used to populate the existing/parallel `section=new` form. === Approaches //Not an exhaustive list...// - **1. Introduce a new parameter** -- This new parameter would indicate whether a version of the page's `section=new` preload has been created that is compatible with the New Discussion Tool. Where "compatible" [i] could mean: --- Instructions are included within the `editintro` parameter instead of wikitext comments (`<!--...-->`) --- If you have a signature in the preloaded text, ensure it's at the end so that the tool doesn't insert another one --- Avoid `{{subst:…}}` syntax --- Remove redundant instructions, like advising people to sign the new topic they create. === Open questions - [ ] **1.** On pages that have opted-in to using the New Discussion Tool for preloads, what input mode should people see when opening the tool in its "preloaded" state //by default//? - [ ] **2.** On pages that have opted-in to using the New Discussion Tool for preloads, is it possible for the maintainers of these pages to specify which of the New Discussion Tool's text input modes – `source` or `visual` – people using the tool on these pages will see by default? If yes, how might these people go about specifying this preference? - [ ] **3.** For people who manage pages considering enabling the New Discussion Tool for preloads, what might be a good way to communicate the way they ought to format the page's preloaded content such that it "cooperates" with the New Discussion Tool's `visual` mode. / -- //More context in: T269310#6699739.// === Done - [ ] All `===Open` questions are answered - [ ] An `===Approach` is selected - [ ] The selected `===Approach` is implemented --- i. See more in T269310#6699739.

This task is about creating a way for page "maintainers" to opt-in to having the New Discussion Tool enabled for new topic/section workflows that use [preloads](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text). Reason for doing this: to avoid scenarios where the New Discussion Tool inadvertently guides people who are new to add content to talk pages in ways that would be disruptive to others. === Requirements - People who maintain discussion pages (call them "page maintainers") that use [preloads ](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text) to populate the existing `section=new` form have the ability to decide what new discussion experience (read: the New Discussion Tool or the existing `section=new` form) people see, by default, when interacting with an affordance that invokes said "preload." - "Page maintainers" who opt-into the New Discussion Tool should be able to customize the "preloaded" content that appears in the tool. This preloaded content should coexist with whatever preloaded content is used to populate the existing/parallel `section=new` form. === Approaches //Not an exhaustive list...// - **1. Introduce a new parameter** -- This new parameter would indicate whether a version of the page's `section=new` preload has been created that is compatible with the New Discussion Tool. Where "compatible" [i] could mean: --- Instructions are included within the `editintro` parameter instead of wikitext comments (`<!--...-->`) --- If you have a signature in the preloaded text, ensure it's at the end so that the tool doesn't insert another one --- Avoid `{{subst:…}}` syntax --- Remove redundant instructions, like advising people to sign the new topic they create. === Open questions - [ ] **1.** On pages that have opted-in to using the New Discussion Tool for preloads, what input mode should people see when opening the tool in its "preloaded" state //by default//? - [ ] **2.** On pages that have opted-in to using the New Discussion Tool for preloads, is it possible for the maintainers of these pages to specify which of the New Discussion Tool's text input modes – `source` or `visual` – people using the tool on these pages will see by default? If yes, how might these people go about specifying this preference? - [ ] **3.** For people who manage pages considering enabling the New Discussion Tool for preloads, what might be a good way to communicate the way they ought to format the page's preloaded content such that it "cooperates" with the New Discussion Tool's `visual` mode. / -- //More context in: T269310#6699739.// === Done - [ ] All `===Open` questions are answered - [ ] An `===Approach` is selected - [ ] The selected `===Approach` is implemented --- i. See more in T269310#6699739.