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Splitting from T59512. (In reply to bug 57512 comment #12) > >unless we can get lucky in being able to find them with the > >search engine without false positives > > You'd have to get really lucky, since from what I understand, the search > engine > does not index flow posts. > > >The non-updating of link tables also makes it impossible to search for external > >links (e.g. to find past discussions of the reliability of a source), or to > >find discussions that link to some page, or to find discussions that use an > >image, and so on. > > Or to find everywhere the spambots added linkspam to a specific website (In reply to bug 57512 comment #13) > (In reply to comment #12) > > >unless we can get lucky in being able to find them with the > > >search engine without false positives > > > > You'd have to get really lucky, since from what I understand, the search > > engine > > does not index flow posts. > > Sounds like that should be another blocker for bug 60178. Is there a bug for > that yet? -------------------------- Merge from Trello: This card is for engineer to pick up Matthias work, answer more questions from checklist below, then meet with Danny/S/Nick and Nik and Chad (and other interested developers) to figure out how to get Flow Topic search results in site search. ---- * Part of https://trello.com/c/nIDJHl8s/ ==== Questions to answer ==== * [] how could CirrusSearch index Topic text? * [] how would edits & replies to a Topic trigger CirrusSearch reindexing? * [] Could `intitle:math` work for topic's title rather than only the Topic: *S0n4m7q632z8ycpv* page title? * [] will CirrusSearch index HTML of pages or wikitext? Note wikitext will match content text expanded using latest templates whereas posts don't use latest templates until re-edited. * [] will Topic search work for wikis using Flow but not CirrusSearch extension? * [] can relevance ranking of search results prefer topic title, then reply text? * [] what about the other [Full text search](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:CirrusSearch#Full_text_search) features like `prefix` and `Topic:math` ? * [] how can we get Nik and Chad to do all the work? * [] Should https://trello.com/c/dTRhYBdY be a separate card? * [] can site search show topic h2 title instead of Topic: *S0n4m7q632z8ycpv* ? * [] can we support existing `prefix:Talk:Some_Flow_board` to search within topics that appeared on a particular Flow board? * [] can we support ` prefix:Talk:Beta_Features/` to search across all the Beta features Flow boards that are subpages of Talk:Beta_Features? ---- See also: * {T104631} * {T76823} * {T76823}

Splitting from T59512. (In reply to bug 57512 comment #12) > >unless we can get lucky in being able to find them with the > >search engine without false positives > > You'd have to get really lucky, since from what I understand, the search > engine > does not index flow posts. > > >The non-updating of link tables also makes it impossible to search for external > >links (e.g. to find past discussions of the reliability of a source), or to > >find discussions that link to some page, or to find discussions that use an > >image, and so on. > > Or to find everywhere the spambots added linkspam to a specific website (In reply to bug 57512 comment #13) > (In reply to comment #12) > > >unless we can get lucky in being able to find them with the > > >search engine without false positives > > > > You'd have to get really lucky, since from what I understand, the search > > engine > > does not index flow posts. > > Sounds like that should be another blocker for bug 60178. Is there a bug for > that yet? -------------------------- Merge from Trello: This card is for engineer to pick up Matthias work, answer more questions from checklist below, then meet with Danny/S/Nick and Nik and Chad (and other interested developers) to figure out how to get Flow Topic search results in site search. ---- * Part of https://trello.com/c/nIDJHl8s/ ==== Questions to answer ==== * [] how could CirrusSearch index Topic text? * [] how would edits & replies to a Topic trigger CirrusSearch reindexing? * [] Could `intitle:math` work for topic's title rather than only the Topic: *S0n4m7q632z8ycpv* page title? * [] will CirrusSearch index HTML of pages or wikitext? Note wikitext will match content text expanded using latest templates whereas posts don't use latest templates until re-edited. * [] will Topic search work for wikis using Flow but not CirrusSearch extension? * [] can relevance ranking of search results prefer topic title, then reply text? * [] what about the other [Full text search](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:CirrusSearch#Full_text_search) features like `prefix` and `Topic:math` ? * [] how can we get Nik and Chad to do all the work? * [] Should https://trello.com/c/dTRhYBdY be a separate card? * [] can site search show topic h2 title instead of Topic: *S0n4m7q632z8ycpv* ? * [] can we support existing `prefix:Talk:Some_Flow_board` to search within topics that appeared on a particular Flow board? * [] can we support ` prefix:Talk:Beta_Features/` to search across all the Beta features Flow boards that are subpages of Talk:Beta_Features? ---- See also: * {T104631} * {T76823} * {T106767}

Splitting from T59512. (In reply to bug 57512 comment #12) > >unless we can get lucky in being able to find them with the > >search engine without false positives > > You'd have to get really lucky, since from what I understand, the search > engine > does not index flow posts. > > >The non-updating of link tables also makes it impossible to search for external > >links (e.g. to find past discussions of the reliability of a source), or to > >find discussions that link to some page, or to find discussions that use an > >image, and so on. > > Or to find everywhere the spambots added linkspam to a specific website (In reply to bug 57512 comment #13) > (In reply to comment #12) > > >unless we can get lucky in being able to find them with the > > >search engine without false positives > > > > You'd have to get really lucky, since from what I understand, the search > > engine > > does not index flow posts. > > Sounds like that should be another blocker for bug 60178. Is there a bug for > that yet? -------------------------- Merge from Trello: This card is for engineer to pick up Matthias work, answer more questions from checklist below, then meet with Danny/S/Nick and Nik and Chad (and other interested developers) to figure out how to get Flow Topic search results in site search. ---- * Part of https://trello.com/c/nIDJHl8s/ ==== Questions to answer ==== * [] how could CirrusSearch index Topic text? * [] how would edits & replies to a Topic trigger CirrusSearch reindexing? * [] Could `intitle:math` work for topic's title rather than only the Topic: *S0n4m7q632z8ycpv* page title? * [] will CirrusSearch index HTML of pages or wikitext? Note wikitext will match content text expanded using latest templates whereas posts don't use latest templates until re-edited. * [] will Topic search work for wikis using Flow but not CirrusSearch extension? * [] can relevance ranking of search results prefer topic title, then reply text? * [] what about the other [Full text search](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:CirrusSearch#Full_text_search) features like `prefix` and `Topic:math` ? * [] how can we get Nik and Chad to do all the work? * [] Should https://trello.com/c/dTRhYBdY be a separate card? * [] can site search show topic h2 title instead of Topic: *S0n4m7q632z8ycpv* ? * [] can we support existing `prefix:Talk:Some_Flow_board` to search within topics that appeared on a particular Flow board? * [] can we support ` prefix:Talk:Beta_Features/` to search across all the Beta features Flow boards that are subpages of Talk:Beta_Features? ---- See also: * {T104631} * {T76823} * {T76823}106767}