=== Description
Our intention is to put the language switcher on the same line as the article title, on the opposite side:
{F32359561 width=550}
However there are currently various elements in and around that area.
**Elements in the article header area**
However there are currently various elements in and around that area. Here are a few examples:
| project | elements directly in area | other nearby elements | image | link
| -- | -- | -- | -- | --
| English Wikipedia ([[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | page indicators | coordinates, //From Wikipedia...// tagline | {F32358966} | [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar?useskinversion=2 | link ]]
| German Wikipedia (| page indicators, coordinates | – | {F32358949} | [[ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Jakob_in_Defereggen?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | page indicators, coordinates | – | {F32358949}
| French Wikipedia (| page indicators, coordinates | – | {F32358951} | [[ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | page indicators, coordinates | – | {F32358951}
| Dutch Wikipedia (| coordinates, audio player | – | {F32358982} | [[ https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | coordinates, audio player | – | {F32358982}
| Basque Wikipedia ([[ https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getxo?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | page indicators | coordinates, quality score | {F32358960} | [[ https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getxo?useskinversion=2 | link ]]
| Russian Wikipedia ([[ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%85%D1%81%D0%B2%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | page indicators, coordinates | additional edit links, //From Wikipedia...// tagline | {F32358980} | [[ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%85%D1%81%D0%B2%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5?useskinversion=2 | link ]]
| Arabic Wikipedia ([[ https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B8%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%A9?useskinversion=2 | link1 ]], [[ https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86?useskinversion=2 | link2 ]]) | page indicators, coordinates| page indicators, coordinates, page issue icons | additional edit link, //From Wikipedia...// tagline | {F32359569} | [[ https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B8%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%A9?useskinversion=2 | link1 ]], page issue icons | additional edit link, //From Wikipedia...// tagline | {F32359569}[[ https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86?useskinversion=2 | link2 ]]
| Swedish Wikipedia ([[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6lle?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | page indicators, coordinates | additional edit links | {F32358991} | [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6lle?useskinversion=2 | link ]]
| Ukrainian Wikipedia ([[ https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D1%96-%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB?useskinversion=2 | link1 ]],| page indicators, coordinates | additional edit links, //From Wikipedia...// tagline | {F32359563} | [[ https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%99%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%96%D1%82%D1%96_(%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA)?useskinversion=2 | link2 ]]) | page indicatorsA4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D1%96-%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB?useskinversion=2 | link1 ]], coordinates | additional edit links, //From Wikipedia...// tagline | {F32359563}[[ https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%99%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%96%D1%82%D1%96_(%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA)?useskinversion=2 | link2 ]]
**Elements directly below=== Where do we put all of the article header area**se elements?
So the question then is: if we want to move these elements to make space for the language switcher, where should we put them? And given the amount of inconsistency already present, can we move towards a more consistent approach to all of this article metadata going forward?
The table examples above are meant to illustrate the variety of elements that appear in a non-standardized way within that article header space. Also relevant is the space right below that (above the lead paragraph & infobox), which also happens to be an area with lots of non-standardized elements: page notices/hatnotes/page issues. **This area is relevant because if we're going to move page indicators, coordinates, and other elements shown in the above examples, to a new location below the line, we need to be mindful of making a further mess in an already messy area of the page**. There is consistency in the sense that all Wikipedia projects seem to use that area for the same types of elements (for the most part), but again the styling of those elements is all over the place. Here are a few examples of how that space looks with various notices:
| {F32359595} ([[ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%85%D1%81%D0%B2%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | {F32359597} ([[ http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documenteur_(film)?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | {F32359599} ([[ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icadyptes?useskinversion=2 | link ]])
| {F32359602} ([[ https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8E%9F%E7%94%9F%E7%B2%98%E8%8F%8C?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | {F32359605} ([[ https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%95%88%ED%86%A4_%EB%B8%8C%EB%A3%A8%ED%81%AC%EB%84%88?useskinversion=2 | link ]]) | {F32359607} ([[ https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81%E0%A4%B5,_%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80_(%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE)?useskinversion=2 | link ]])
=== A template/consistent page layout?A very organized approach would be to have some kind of clearly defined page template/consistent page layout that was used across all Wikipedias. Such a thing would help guide/determine which elements appear where on the page. For example:
An ideal approach would be to have some kind of clearly defined page template/consistent page layout that was used across all Wikipedias. Such a thing would help guide/determine which elements appear where on the page. For example:
{F32359614{F32362317 width=500}
However I'm concerned that something like this might be too ambitious for us at this time.
=== Establishing a more consistent, clutter-free baseline?
=== Goals of this task
- identify the various elements in and around that area
- discuss our options of where we can move them to and the associated complexity
- decide where we're going to move them to
=== Non-article pages
=== Eye towards responsiveness
My initial thought was that we could shift any elements to the area just below the border, opposite from the title, like this:
{F32358514}
That works well for projects that have the //From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia// tagline below the title (e.g. English, French, Portuguese, Japanese), because there is already a nice empty space:
{F32358515}
Even in cases where there is already something there (usually coordinates) we could still put the indicators there:
{F32358516}
However most projects do not have the //From Wikipedia...// tagline, so there is not an existing space there. We could of course create space by moving the content down, but then there's a slightly awkward gap/space that gets created below the title:
{F32358518}=== Eye towards responsiveness
Another option would be that for projects that don't have the //From Wikipedia...// tagline we shift the elements (indicators, coordinates, etc.) below the line but place them on the same side as the title rather than opposite, eg:
{F32358528}