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This task represents the work involved with enabling people to elect to receive notifications when new topics are posted on talk pages they are interested in. === Objective and theory of change **Objective** This work is intended to increase the likelihood Junior and Senior Contributors know when someone is talking about something they are interested in. **Theory of change** We think that: - //If// people can decide to receive notifications when new topics are posted on talk pages they are interested in... - //Then// they will be able to more easily and quickly identify conversations they can share their expertise/support/guidance/etc. in - //...and// be more likely to respond to those comments in a timely manner. === Requirements For people who - 1) Have the `Enable topic subscription` setting within `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` **enabled** //and// - 2) Are logged in ...the following should be true: - 3) When visiting a talk page, a link should appear within the skin's existing `Tools` menu called `Subscribe` - 4). When people click this `Subscribe` link a toast should appear that reads: `You have subscribed! You will receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.` - 5) The link that read `Subscribe` in step 3), should now read `Unsubscribe` - 6) Whenever a new //topic// is published on the page they took "Step 3)" on by someone other than them, they should receive a notification, via Echo, that reads: `New topic "TOPIC NAME" started on PAGE TOPIC WAS STARTED ON by USERNAME OF PERSON WHO STARTED TOPIC"` - 7) When someone clicks an `Unsubscribe` link a toast should appear that reads: `You have subscribed! You will receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.`You have unsubscribed. You will no longer receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.` - 8) Whenever a new //topic// is published on the page they took "Step 7)" on by someone other than them, they should NOT receive a notification via Echo NOTE: the state of the `Subscribe` link this task introduces should NOT have any impact on whether people receive notifications about new comments in topics they are subscribed to manually or automatically. === Approaches - **Approach #1**: Implement a new button on each talk page that enables people to decide whether they would like to be notified when new topics are published to it -- //The demo @Esanders wrote in [886134](https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/886134) takes this approach: https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/b2cf82aaf0/w .// - **Approach #2:** Present people with the option to be notified about new topics when published to a talk page after commenting or starting a discussion -- //This approach would build upon what was implemented in T262103. Note: this approach is likely too limiting in so far as it would inhibit people who have not yet participated on a page from electing to be made aware of future conversations they may want to participate in/// - **Approach #3**: Present people with the option to be notified about new topics that are published if/when they tap the {nav ⭐️} to add the page to their Watchlist - **Approach #4**: //TBD// === Open questions - [ ] What needs to be true for the software to consider someone to be "interested in" a talk page? //E.g. they explicitly decided to "Watch" the talk page? They participated on the talk page before? They started a topic on the talk page?// - [ ] How – if at all – should people watching talk pages affect whether they are notified when a new topic is added? -- //Note: some people watch talk pages indirectly, by way of watching its corresponding article page. In this case, people might be confused/surprised about receiving a notification about a talk page which they may have never directly seen and/or interacted with.// --- === References - @Ainali: //"I still have to do that to see if there is a new discussion started on some page I am particularly interested in. For these pages, I would like to auto subscribe to all new sections. Since it was so easy to unwatch a topic straight from the menu, I don't mind getting many notifications. I still find it likely to save me many clicks and loading time of pages."// | [mw:Feature request: automatic subscription to new sections on selected pages](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Wh5d6oyzjqpi1hzx).

This task represents the work involved with enabling people to elect to receive notifications when new topics are posted on talk pages they are interested in. === Objective and theory of change **Objective** This work is intended to increase the likelihood Junior and Senior Contributors know when someone is talking about something they are interested in. **Theory of change** We think that: - //If// people can decide to receive notifications when new topics are posted on talk pages they are interested in... - //Then// they will be able to more easily and quickly identify conversations they can share their expertise/support/guidance/etc. in - //...and// be more likely to respond to those comments in a timely manner. === Requirements For people who - 1) Have the `Enable topic subscription` setting within `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` **enabled** //and// - 2) Are logged in - 3) Are accessing Wikipedia using any of the following skins: `Vector (2010)`, `Vector (2022)`, `MonoBook`, and `Timeless` ...the following should be true: - 3) When visiting a talk page, a link should appear within the skin's existing `Tools` menu called `Subscribe` - 4). When people click this `Subscribe` link a toast should appear that reads: `You have subscribed! You will receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.` - 5) The link that read `Subscribe` in step 3), should now read `Unsubscribe` - 6) Whenever a new //topic// is published on the page they took "Step 3)" on by someone other than them, they should receive a notification, via Echo, that reads: `New topic "TOPIC NAME" started on PAGE TOPIC WAS STARTED ON by USERNAME OF PERSON WHO STARTED TOPIC"` - 7) When someone clicks an `Unsubscribe` link a toast should appear that reads: `You have subscribed! You will receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.`You have unsubscribed. You will no longer receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.` - 8) Whenever a new //topic// is published on the page they took "Step 7)" on by someone other than them, they should NOT receive a notification via Echo NOTE: the state of the `Subscribe` link this task introduces should NOT have any impact on whether people receive notifications about new comments in topics they are subscribed to manually or automatically. === Approaches - **Approach #1**: Implement a new button on each talk page that enables people to decide whether they would like to be notified when new topics are published to it -- //The demo @Esanders wrote in [886134](https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/886134) takes this approach: https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/b2cf82aaf0/w .// - **Approach #2:** Present people with the option to be notified about new topics when published to a talk page after commenting or starting a discussion -- //This approach would build upon what was implemented in T262103. Note: this approach is likely too limiting in so far as it would inhibit people who have not yet participated on a page from electing to be made aware of future conversations they may want to participate in/// - **Approach #3**: Present people with the option to be notified about new topics that are published if/when they tap the {nav ⭐️} to add the page to their Watchlist - **Approach #4**: //TBD// === Open questions - [ ] What needs to be true for the software to consider someone to be "interested in" a talk page? //E.g. they explicitly decided to "Watch" the talk page? They participated on the talk page before? They started a topic on the talk page?// - [ ] How – if at all – should people watching talk pages affect whether they are notified when a new topic is added? -- //Note: some people watch talk pages indirectly, by way of watching its corresponding article page. In this case, people might be confused/surprised about receiving a notification about a talk page which they may have never directly seen and/or interacted with.// --- === References - @Ainali: //"I still have to do that to see if there is a new discussion started on some page I am particularly interested in. For these pages, I would like to auto subscribe to all new sections. Since it was so easy to unwatch a topic straight from the menu, I don't mind getting many notifications. I still find it likely to save me many clicks and loading time of pages."// | [mw:Feature request: automatic subscription to new sections on selected pages](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Wh5d6oyzjqpi1hzx).

This task represents the work involved with enabling people to elect to receive notifications when new topics are posted on talk pages they are interested in. === Objective and theory of change **Objective** This work is intended to increase the likelihood Junior and Senior Contributors know when someone is talking about something they are interested in. **Theory of change** We think that: - //If// people can decide to receive notifications when new topics are posted on talk pages they are interested in... - //Then// they will be able to more easily and quickly identify conversations they can share their expertise/support/guidance/etc. in - //...and// be more likely to respond to those comments in a timely manner. === Requirements For people who - 1) Have the `Enable topic subscription` setting within `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` **enabled** //and// - 2) Are logged in - 3) Are accessing Wikipedia using any of the following skins: `Vector (2010)`, `Vector (2022)`, `MonoBook`, and `Timeless` ...the following should be true: - 3) When visiting a talk page, a link should appear within the skin's existing `Tools` menu called `Subscribe` - 4). When people click this `Subscribe` link a toast should appear that reads: `You have subscribed! You will receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.` - 5) The link that read `Subscribe` in step 3), should now read `Unsubscribe` - 6) Whenever a new //topic// is published on the page they took "Step 3)" on by someone other than them, they should receive a notification, via Echo, that reads: `New topic "TOPIC NAME" started on PAGE TOPIC WAS STARTED ON by USERNAME OF PERSON WHO STARTED TOPIC"` - 7) When someone clicks an `Unsubscribe` link a toast should appear that reads: `You have subscribed! You will receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.`You have unsubscribed. You will no longer receive notifications when new topics are started on this page.` - 8) Whenever a new //topic// is published on the page they took "Step 7)" on by someone other than them, they should NOT receive a notification via Echo NOTE: the state of the `Subscribe` link this task introduces should NOT have any impact on whether people receive notifications about new comments in topics they are subscribed to manually or automatically. === Approaches - **Approach #1**: Implement a new button on each talk page that enables people to decide whether they would like to be notified when new topics are published to it -- //The demo @Esanders wrote in [886134](https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/886134) takes this approach: https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/b2cf82aaf0/w .// - **Approach #2:** Present people with the option to be notified about new topics when published to a talk page after commenting or starting a discussion -- //This approach would build upon what was implemented in T262103. Note: this approach is likely too limiting in so far as it would inhibit people who have not yet participated on a page from electing to be made aware of future conversations they may want to participate in/// - **Approach #3**: Present people with the option to be notified about new topics that are published if/when they tap the {nav ⭐️} to add the page to their Watchlist - **Approach #4**: //TBD// === Open questions - [ ] What needs to be true for the software to consider someone to be "interested in" a talk page? //E.g. they explicitly decided to "Watch" the talk page? They participated on the talk page before? They started a topic on the talk page?// - [ ] How – if at all – should people watching talk pages affect whether they are notified when a new topic is added? -- //Note: some people watch talk pages indirectly, by way of watching its corresponding article page. In this case, people might be confused/surprised about receiving a notification about a talk page which they may have never directly seen and/or interacted with.// --- === References - @Ainali: //"I still have to do that to see if there is a new discussion started on some page I am particularly interested in. For these pages, I would like to auto subscribe to all new sections. Since it was so easy to unwatch a topic straight from the menu, I don't mind getting many notifications. I still find it likely to save me many clicks and loading time of pages."// | [mw:Feature request: automatic subscription to new sections on selected pages](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Wh5d6oyzjqpi1hzx).