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Since the Reply tool knows which comment I'm replying to, why can't it tell me, when I click the big blue button, that someone else has already replied to it while I was typing? And perhaps more generally, consider telling me before I post that someone else has edited the page in the meantime. See @Marc's description at https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_Wikipedia:Discussietools&diff=56411025&oldid=56406028 ---- //To extract the reasons/description from the broader post, and with some additions:// Currently, the reply tool doesn't give any indication about new changes to the discussion/page since the page loaded (other than a warning/error message either beforehand or afterwards, in case of drastic changes to the page). Within the widget there's no way to figure out if there are any changes //before// publishing a comment, and the whole page gets updated silently //after// successfully publishing the comment: any intermediate changes to the page, also in other sections, are updated/'injected' without visual indication (while the just added comment has a fancy fading background color). (In comparison: when replying using the regular edit page, clicking the "Show changes" button 'warns' of any changes to the section – instantly when the preference "Show previews without reloading the page" is checked.) __As a starting point__ for this task/request: After clicking the blue "Reply" button, a note or warning message similar to the [[https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Discussiontools-error-comment-disappeared/en|'comment-disappeared']] error message could be shown, //postponing// the publishing process (instead of cancelling like when the replied-to comment disappeared in the meantime). Something like: (WARNING) There have been other changes to this page since it loaded. Click 'Reply' again to post your comment, or you can reload the page first to see the changes. __Ultimately__, something like a 'live' button for updating/injection of changed and new comments would be great, comparable to a news site's live blog.[1] I'm aware that a Wiki talk page is a bit more complicated than a linear thread of news items, but – seeing that publishing a comment with the reply tool already uses some live update of the page, without reloading it – a button to update the page (with e.g. a background color indicating changes and added comments) while the reply tool widget stays open, seems not to be a too far stretch. ---- [1] Fore example 'liveblog' articles on https://nos.nl/ (button "X nieuwe berichten tonen" at the top), 'live updates' articles on https://edition.cnn.com/ (floating button "↑ X New Updates").

Since the Reply tool knows which comment I'm replying to, why can't it tell me, when I click the big blue button, that someone else has already replied to it while I was typing? And perhaps more generally, consider telling me before I post that someone else has edited the page in the meantime. See @Marc's description at https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_Wikipedia:Discussietools&diff=56411025&oldid=56406028 ---- //To extract the reasons/description from the broader post, and with some additions:// Currently, the reply tool doesn't give any indication about new changes to the discussion/page since the page loaded (other than a warning/error message either beforehand or afterwards, in case of drastic changes to the page). Within the widget there's no way to figure out if there are any changes //before// publishing a comment, and the whole page gets updated silently //after// successfully publishing the comment: any intermediate changes to the page, also in other sections, are updated/'injected' without visual indication (while the just added comment has a fancy fading background color). (In comparison: when replying using the regular edit page, clicking the "Show changes" button 'warns' of any changes to the section – instantly when the preference "Show previews without reloading the page" is checked.) __As a starting point__ for this task/request: After clicking the blue "Reply" button, a note or warning message similar to the [[https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Discussiontools-error-comment-disappeared/en|'comment-disappeared']] error message could be shown, //postponing// the publishing process (instead of cancelling like when the replied-to comment disappeared in the meantime). Something like: (WARNING) There have been other changes to this page since it loaded. Click 'Reply' again to post your comment, or you can reload the page first to see the changes. __Ultimately__, something like a 'live' button for updating/injection of changed and new comments would be great, comparable to a news site's live blog.[1] I'm aware that a Wiki talk page is a bit more complicated than a linear thread of news items, but – seeing that publishing a comment with the reply tool already uses some live update of the page, without reloading it – a button to update the page (with e.g. a background color indicating changes and added comments) while the reply tool widget stays open, seems not to be a too far stretch. **See also:** * @YFdyh000's comments at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:W4hdk7atqoc255i4 ---- [1] Fore example 'liveblog' articles on https://nos.nl/ (button "X nieuwe berichten tonen" at the top), 'live updates' articles on https://edition.cnn.com/ (floating button "↑ X New Updates").

Since the Reply tool knows which comment I'm replying to, why can't it tell me, when I click the big blue button, that someone else has already replied to it while I was typing? And perhaps more generally, consider telling me before I post that someone else has edited the page in the meantime. See @Marc's description at https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_Wikipedia:Discussietools&diff=56411025&oldid=56406028 ---- //To extract the reasons/description from the broader post, and with some additions:// Currently, the reply tool doesn't give any indication about new changes to the discussion/page since the page loaded (other than a warning/error message either beforehand or afterwards, in case of drastic changes to the page). Within the widget there's no way to figure out if there are any changes //before// publishing a comment, and the whole page gets updated silently //after// successfully publishing the comment: any intermediate changes to the page, also in other sections, are updated/'injected' without visual indication (while the just added comment has a fancy fading background color). (In comparison: when replying using the regular edit page, clicking the "Show changes" button 'warns' of any changes to the section – instantly when the preference "Show previews without reloading the page" is checked.) __As a starting point__ for this task/request: After clicking the blue "Reply" button, a note or warning message similar to the [[https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Discussiontools-error-comment-disappeared/en|'comment-disappeared']] error message could be shown, //postponing// the publishing process (instead of cancelling like when the replied-to comment disappeared in the meantime). Something like: (WARNING) There have been other changes to this page since it loaded. Click 'Reply' again to post your comment, or you can reload the page first to see the changes. __Ultimately__, something like a 'live' button for updating/injection of changed and new comments would be great, comparable to a news site's live blog.[1] I'm aware that a Wiki talk page is a bit more complicated than a linear thread of news items, but – seeing that publishing a comment with the reply tool already uses some live update of the page, without reloading it – a button to update the page (with e.g. a background color indicating changes and added comments) while the reply tool widget stays open, seems not to be a too far stretch. **See also:** * @YFdyh000's comments at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:W4hdk7atqoc255i4 ---- [1] Fore example 'liveblog' articles on https://nos.nl/ (button "X nieuwe berichten tonen" at the top), 'live updates' articles on https://edition.cnn.com/ (floating button "↑ X New Updates").