T311760 introduced an interim solution for hiding talk pages' lead sections on the mobile site by "placing" it within the {nav Read as wiki page} view.
This task involves the work of iterating on that initial approach to ensure that lead section content remains available to people without needing to "house" it within:
- A) The {nav Read as wiki page} view
-- //Reason: in the long term, we plan to converge on a single mobile talk page view and in doing so, deprecate the {nav Read as wiki page} view. See T280417.//
- B) The MobileFrontend `About this page` feature
-- //Reason: the MobileFrontend `About this page` feature does **not** show content that is otherwise shown in desktop [tmboxes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Tmbox). E.g. notice how https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Archaeology#/issues/all omits: 1) the [History Portal link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:History), 2) the "Article Milestones" section, and 3) links to the two talk page archives: [Archive 1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Archaeology/Archive_1) and [Archive 2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Archaeology/Archive_2).//
-- //Reason: the MobileFrontend `About this page` feature displays content that is **hidden** on desktop. E.g. notice that `ArchitectureWikipedia:WikiProject ArchitectureTemplate:WikiProject ArchitectureArchitecture articles` appears in the `About this page` view, even though it doesn’t appear on desktop (it’s hidden using TemplateStyles). More in T311760#8062686. //
=== Stories
- As an experienced volunteer who feels responsible for maintaining the integrity of a talk page, and the content page to which it is related, I need a way of communicating with new and less experienced volunteers who are accessing a talk page, so that I can increase the likelihood that they participate on the talk page in ways that are constructive and consistent with consensuses previous talk page participants have arrived at.
- As a new or less experienced volunteer who is arriving on a talk page seeking to start a new discussion, I want to know what – if any – guidelines/considerations I ought to keep in mind prior to starting said discussion so that I can avoid behaving in ways other people are likely to find unhelpful.
=== Requirements
**Meta**
- Any implementation must, at a minimum, not make it more difficult for people to recognize talk pages as containing discussions. [i]
- Any implementation will need to accommodate the new topic empty state on pages which have templates, but no discussions. //More in T312599.//
- This first iteration is focused on where / how the affordance for revealing this page content is shown on the page and what happens when people engage with said affordance. //Read: this task does NOT include the work of revising how `tmbox` content is displayed. Tho, it should not preclude us from iterating on how this content is show in the future.//
**User Experience**
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- The {nav About this page} link that currently appears right beneath the talk page title ought to be:
-- Moved to appear beneath the `Latest comment...` indicator that – if present – will appear beneath the page tools bar (read: the row of icons for adding the talk page to your Watchlist, editing the talk page, etc.)
-- Revised so that the link reads {nav ℹ Learn more about this page}
--- //Note: we ought to use the OOUI/Codex equivalent of the {nav ℹ} icon//
- The user will be able to tap on the {nav ℹ Learn more about this page} link to get access to a pop-up with relevant edit notices.
=== Open questions
**Open Questions**
- [x] 1. What should the copy for the link that exposes lead section content be?
-- {nav Learn more about this page} (see T312309#8179914)
- [x] 2. Are we combing the new "About this page" link location and treatment with the change in "Add topic" affordance?
-- No. This work will happen in T316175
- [ ] 3. Where should the {nav ℹ Learn more about this page} link appear in the time //before// T316175 is implemented?
=== Done
- [x] An `===Approach` is decided upon
- [ ] `===Requirements` are drafted
- [ ] Web Team is consulted to ensure they are onboard with the approach we are proposing
- [ ] `===Requirements` are implemented
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=== Background
T311760 introduced an interim solution for hiding talk pages' lead sections on the mobile site by "placing" it within the {nav Read as wiki page} view.
We think doing the above will increase the likelihood that people landing on talk pages will see the topic(s) being discussed on said page and subsequently, recognize the talk page as a place where volunteers communicate with one another about the edits they have made or are planning to make. [i]
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i. Helping people to immediately recognize talk pages as containing conversations is a core objective of the [Usability Improvements porition of the Talk Pagse Project](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability).