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This task is about investigating if and how we can make it so the Discussion tools beta feature can remain available/visible in Beta Features [i] on a given wiki where //some// of the Discussion tools' sub-features are available by default. === Background As we unearthed in T270119#6745654, when any one of the Discussion Tools beta feature's sub-feature [i] is made available as an opt-out setting, the Discussion Tools beta feature is removed from `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures`. This is problematic because it [currently] means it will not be possible for some Talk page project features [ii] to be available as beta features and others as opt-out settings. === Requirements - The Discussion tools beta feature is visible in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures` regardless of how its sub-features [ii] are deployed on a given wiki === Done - [ ] The `===Requirements` above are implemented //OR// we have documented the reasons why these `===Requirements` cannot be implemented. --- i. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures ii. E.g. Reply Tool, New Discussion Tool, Visual enhancements

This task is about investigating if and how we can make it so the Discussion tools beta feature can remain available/visible in Beta Features [i] on a given wiki where //some// of the Discussion tools' sub-features are available by default. === Background As we unearthed in T270119#6745654, when any one of the Discussion Tools beta feature's sub-feature [i] is made available as an opt-out setting, the Discussion Tools beta feature is removed from `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures`. This is problematic because it [currently] means it will not be possible for some Talk page project features [ii] to be available as beta features and others as opt-out settings. === Requirements - The Discussion tools beta feature is visible in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures` regardless of how its sub-features [ii] are deployed on a given wiki === Behavior - **Scenario A**: for people who 1) enable the `Discussion tools` beta feature to gain access to Sub-feature A and 2) Sub-feature A is "graduated" to be an opt-out setting: -- The `Discussion tools` beta feature will //not// appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures` -- Sub-feature A will appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` -- These peoples' choice to //enable// the `Discussion tools` beta feature will be remembered indefinitely - **Scenario B**: for people who 1) enabled the `Discussion tools` beta feature to gain access to Sub-feature A, 2) Sub-feature A is "graduated" to be an opt-out setting //AND// 3) `Sub-feature B is introduced as a beta feature: -- The `Discussion tools` beta feature will re-appear //enabled// in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures` -- Sub-feature A will appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` -- Sub-feature B will appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` === Done - [ ] The `===Requirements` above are implemented //OR// we have documented the reasons why these `===Requirements` cannot be implemented. --- i. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures ii. E.g. Reply Tool, New Discussion Tool, Visual enhancements

This task is about investigating if and how we can make it so the Discussion tools beta feature can remain available/visible in Beta Features [i] on a given wiki where //some// of the Discussion tools' sub-features are available by default. === Background As we unearthed in T270119#6745654, when any one of the Discussion Tools beta feature's sub-feature [i] is made available as an opt-out setting, the Discussion Tools beta feature is removed from `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures`. This is problematic because it [currently] means it will not be possible for some Talk page project features [ii] to be available as beta features and others as opt-out settings. === Requirements - The Discussion tools beta feature is visible in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures` regardless of how its sub-features [ii] are deployed on a given wiki === Behavior - **Scenario A**: for people who 1) enable the `Discussion tools` beta feature to gain access to Sub-feature A and 2) Sub-feature A is "graduated" to be an opt-out setting: -- The `Discussion tools` beta feature will //not// appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures` -- Sub-feature A will appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` -- These peoples' choice to //enable// the `Discussion tools` beta feature will be remembered indefinitely - **Scenario B**: for people who 1) enabled the `Discussion tools` beta feature to gain access to Sub-feature A, 2) Sub-feature A is "graduated" to be an opt-out setting //AND// 3) `Sub-feature B is introduced as a beta feature: -- The `Discussion tools` beta feature will re-appear //enabled// in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures` -- Sub-feature A will appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` -- Sub-feature B will appear in `Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing` === Done - [ ] The `===Requirements` above are implemented //OR// we have documented the reasons why these `===Requirements` cannot be implemented. --- i. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures ii. E.g. Reply Tool, New Discussion Tool, Visual enhancements