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[[ https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Tqczxxbuy310m70m | Initial report. ]] [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Senaste_%C3%A4ndringar?hideliu=1&hideanons=0&userExpLevel=newcomer%3Blearner&hidemyself=0&hidebyothers=0&hidebots=0&hidehumans=0&hideminor=0&hidemajor=0&hidelastrevision=0&hidepreviousrevisions=0&hidepageedits=0&hiden&hidenewpages=0&hidecategorization=1&hideWikibase=1&hidelog=0&watchlist= | This set of filters ]] is not working. The "Unregistered" filter conflicts with one or more Experience filters, which find registered users only. This is a problem when you want to patrol both IP edits (which are often done by non experienced editors) and newcomers edits. ---- @Pginer-WMF's thoughts: The filters in the Recent Changes page provide two sets of filters for "User registration" (registered and unregistered) and "Experience level" (newcomers, learners and experienced users) that are closely related. Experienced levels act as a sub-set of the registered filter. This makes some relevant selections impossible to achieve such as viewing at the same time IPs and the registered users with less expertise (as [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tqiew44pz9jo49i4 | this user comment points out ]]). Although highlighting can be used as a workaround, we can consider whether these filters would work better as a single group. Providing all these filters in a single group would allow for users to select both "unregistered" and "newcomers" to view edits from users of both kinds. In terms of filtering contributions, it does not present additional limitations, and allows for selections that were not possible before. In other words, the AND-based combination that separate groups provides is useless and the OR-based combination of being in the same group could be useful instead. In terms of usability we need to identify whether the resulting group is easy to understand as a coherent unit for users.

Experience and reflection tell us that it makes sense to combine the "User registration" and "Experience level" filter groups into one group. The primary reason for doing so is to enable users to search for "Unregistered" OR "Newcomers", which is a common desire, yet currently impossible. =Functional Changes - **Combine the groups**, so that an "OR" relationship obtains among all members. - **Conflict states:** Remove all Conflict states that currently exist between "Experience level" filters and "Unregistered." - **New "No-effect display states"**. The following combos would be redundant, according to the terms defined in T149391. There are two flavors of redundant: - **Full coverage**: these combos would constitute full coverage, and would get the full coverage messages and display state: - Registered + Unregistered - Unregistered + Newcomers + Learners + Experienced - **Subsets**: Any of the former Experience filters (Newcomers, Learners, Experienced) would be subsets of Registered, and would get the subset messaging and display state. =New wording Please note that numerous descriptions have changed in some subtle ways. ===User registration and experience=== **Registered** Logged-in editors. **Unregistered** Editors who aren’t logged in. **Newcomers** Registered editors with fewer than 10 edits and 4 days of activity. **Learners ** Registered editors whose experience falls between “Newcomers” and “Experienced users.” **Experienced users** Registered editors with more than 500 edits and 30 days of activity.

[[ https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Tqczxxbuy310m70m | Initial reportExperience and reflection tell us that it makes sense to combine the "User registration" and "Experience level" filter groups into one group. ]] [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Senaste_%C3%A4ndringar?hideliu=1&hideanons=0&userExpLevel=newcomer%3Blearner&hidemyself=0&hidebyothers=0&hidebots=0&hidehumans=0&hideminor=0&hidemajor=0&hidelastrevision=0&hidepreviousrevisions=0&hidepageedits=0&hiden&hidenewpages=0&hidecategorization=1&hideWikibase=1&hidelog=0&watchlist= | This set of filters ]] is not working.The primary reason for doing so is to enable users to search for "Unregistered" OR "Newcomers", The "Unregistered" filter conflicts with one or more Experience filterswhich is a common desire, which find registered users only. This is a problem when you want to patrol both IP edits (which are often done by non experienced editors) and newcomers edits.yet currently impossible. =Functional Changes ---- - **Combine the groups**, so that an "OR" relationship obtains among all members. - **Conflict states:** Remove all Conflict states that currently exist between "Experience level" filters and "Unregistered." - **New "No-effect display states"**. The following combos would be redundant, according to the terms defined in T149391. There are two flavors of redundant: - **Full coverage**: these combos would constitute full coverage, and would get the full coverage messages and display state: - Registered + Unregistered @Pginer-WMF's thoughts: - Unregistered + Newcomers + Learners + Experienced - **Subsets**: Any of the former Experience filters (Newcomers, Learners, Experienced) would be subsets of Registered, and would get the subset messaging and display state. The filters in the Recent Changes page provide two sets of filters for "User registration" (registered and unregistered) and "Experience level" (newcomers, learners and experienced users) that are closely related. Experienced levels act as a sub-set of the registered filter. This makes some relevant selections impossible to achieve such as viewing at the same time IPs and the registered users with less expertise (as [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tqiew44pz9jo49i4 | this user comment points out ]]). Although highlighting can be used as a workaround, we can consider whether these filters would work better as a single group. Providing all these filters in a single group would allow for users to select both "unregistered" and "newcomers" to view edits from users of both kinds. In terms of filtering contributions, it does not present additional limitations, and allows for selections that were not possible before. In other words, the AND-based combination that separate groups provides is useless and the OR-based combination of being in the same group could be useful instead. In terms of usability we need to identify whether the resulting group is easy to understand as a coherent unit for users.=New wording Please note that numerous descriptions have changed in some subtle ways. ===User registration and experience=== **Registered** Logged-in editors. **Unregistered** Editors who aren’t logged in. **Newcomers** Registered editors with fewer than 10 edits and 4 days of activity. **Learners ** Registered editors whose experience falls between “Newcomers” and “Experienced users.” **Experienced users** Registered editors with more than 500 edits and 30 days of activity.