**Question LIBRIS XL** Asked question 10 jun 2018 to LIBRIS XL about [[ https://kundo.se/org/librisxl/d/viaf-libris-uri-gamla-librisnumret-plantankar-for-/ | plans VIAF/LIBRIS XL link ]]
**Answer:** dont know right now - Anna Berggren Product owner and Libris-coordinator
**Question OCLC 21 oct 2018 06:37: **about plans
**Answer Moreno,Hayley <morenoh@oclc.org> 6 dec. 2018 18:33** //We are aware of this change and are in discussions with the National Library of Sweden on updating their links in the VIAF database. We hope to have this implement this change in the future.
//
== Odd things at VIAF and no announcement
After a year of no feedback what will be done and how we are start seeing odd things in VIAF regarding LIBRIS with both old IDs and new IDs that makes current tools add LIBRIS isd to wrong place in Wikidata - URI see question [[ https://kundo.se/org/librisxl/d/viaf-libris-uri/ | asked 28 Apr 2019 ]] (Swedish).
Below how VIAF start presents [[ https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/kungliga_biblioteket/pressreleases/kb-becomes-the-first-national-library-to-fully-transition-to-linked-data-2573975 | LIBRISXL ]] ID in the old LIBRIS field... after a week we get an indication that something is wrong but not how it should work and no Task ID/no place to track the change process/or a date when fixed
{F29051755,width=1000}
VIAF [[ https://viaf.org/viaf/8167155566470213380005/ | 8167155566470213380005 ]]
LIBRIS [[ https://viaf.org/processed/SELIBR%7C9k6xhg7d75gscx47 | https://viaf.org/processed/SELIBR%7C9k6xhg7d75gscx47 ]] i.e. New LIBRIS id in the old field
OCLC links back to LIBRIS [[ https://libris.kb.se/resource/auth/9k6xhg7d75gscx47 | 9k6xhg7d75gscx47 ]] ==> get error in [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200436 | LIBRIS (swedish) ]]
{F29054073,width=800}
**Answer in two emails from Anna LIBRIS 2019-05-xx**: yes there is a problem that is reported to VIAF
(Magnus comment: no task id or description)
=== Record with error
* LIBRIS XL = [[ https://libris.kb.se/katalogisering/9k6xhg7d75gscx47 | 9k6xhg7d75gscx47 ]]
* WIkidata [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6063138 | Q6063138 ]]
* VIAF = [[ https://viaf.org/viaf/8167155566470213380005/ | 8167155566470213380005 ]]
{F29051752,width=900}
=== See also
* When implementing Linked data solutions lesson learned is that we need a dialogue and tools I have created an EPIC see {{T202530}}
= Change management is needed
I guess this is an example of the more complex Authority Ecosystem we will see and we need
* **Basic change management**
** Unique identifiers for all open tasks so we can track them
** [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikidata | Public Workboards ]] so we can coordinate who is doing what and when
** A [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=502ILHjX9EE | prioritized public backlog ]] --> we understand what and when things are done and can coordinate between different organisations and open communities like Wikidata
** Possibility to subscribe and get notified when tasks change
*** everyone can register on this site [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Creating_your_account | link ]] / the [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Bug_report_life_cycle | change process ]] / [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/feed/query/all/ | latest changes ]]
* **Better project management and communication** so all who are parts of the Authority ecosystem understand the plans e.g.
** [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_story | user stories ]] what will be done and how
** in this case I feel it would be interesting to understand
*** what change streams will VIAF use from LIBRIS XL, how can we track changes in VIAF
*** will old LIBRIS ( [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P906 | Property:P906 ]]) and new LIBRIS-URI ([[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5587 | Property:P5587 ]]) be separated in VIAF?
*** Today new LIBRIS XL ID is stored in VIAF in a MARC look a like format 840 see [[ https://viaf.org/processed/SELIBR%7C206651 | VIAF SELIBR 206651]] is that the easiest place to find the LIBRISXL id ?
**** today we have scripts that access VIAF that also needs LIBRIS-XL see screen dump below what I have found e.g.[[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/authority_control.js | User:Magnus Manske/authority control.js ]]
**** looks also we have bots doing VIAF looks up e.g. [[ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Requests/KasparBot | Commons:Bots/Requests/KasparBot ]]
{F29053961,width=700}
screen dump from [[ https://viaf.org/processed/SELIBR%7C206651 | VIAF SELIBR 206651 ]]
== Changes done in Wikidata for LIBRIS XL
# After getting no answer from the LIBRIS project we did a skilled guess and requested [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5587 | Property:P5587 ]])
# Wikimedia Sweden was involved and did a small project getting a dump from LIBRIS XL and uploaded +60 000 new IDs see [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wmse-library-data-2018/ | wmse-library-data-2018 ]]
# a request to get l[[ https://kundo.se/org/librisxl/d/landningssida-i-libris-xl/ | anding pages ]] in LIBRIS-XL was done
# a first draft of a landing page was done --> the sv:Wikimedia template [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall:Auktoritetsdata | Auktoritetsdata ]] was changed and now use LIBRIS XL
## Other bigger Wikimedia laguages was informed
### [[ https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_szablonu:Kontrola_autorytatywna#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing | pl:Dyskusja_szablonu:Kontrola_autorytatywna#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing ]]
### ru Wikipedia [[ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%92%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%81%D1%81%D1%8B%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing | ru:Обсуждение_шаблона:Внешние_ссылки#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing ]]
### en Wikipedia [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Authority_control#LIBRIS-URI | en:Template_talk:Authority_control#LIBRIS-URI ]]
### da Wikipedia [[ https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skabelondiskussion:Autoritetsdata#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing | da:Skabelondiskussion:Autoritetsdata#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing ]]
### fi Wikipedia [[ https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keskustelu_mallineesta:Auktoriteettitunnisteet#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing | fi:Keskustelu_mallineesta:Auktoriteettitunnisteet#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing ]]
### no Wikipedia [[ https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maldiskusjon:Autoritetsdata#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing | no:Maldiskusjon:Autoritetsdata#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing ]]
=== Next step
# understand what is happening at VIAF
# try to [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#F%C3%B6rslag_p%C3%A5_bot:_l%C3%A4gga_till_mall_Auktoritetsdata_d%C3%A4r_den_saknas | convince swedish WIkipedia people ]] that template for Authority data should be added to all pages
# understand the future plans of LIBRIS XL regarding Wikidata. Today they have nearly no external links and mostly with dbpedia as **same as** example
## WIkidata [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7724 | Q7724 ]] August Strindberg --> JSON-LD LIBRIS XL [[ https://libris.kb.se/tr574vdc33gk2cc/data.jsonld | tr574vdc33gk2cc/data.jsonld ]]
{F29054140,width=800}