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Regarding to a [[ https://twitter.com/namnfragor/status/1025818832399683587 | tweet ]] SOFI is building a new SOFI register I would like to get an understanding what kind of solution and how it will be designed ==> so we can see how it fits into what Wikidata is doing * [[ https://twitter.com/namnfragor/status/1025818832399683587 | Tweet ]] - //Vi jobbar på ett nytt ortnamnsregister – tyvärr är det inte klart att lansera än!// > Contact information > salgo60@msn.com > 0705937579 > [[ https://www.linkedin.com/in/magnus-s%C3%A4lg%C3%B6-148890/ | Linked in ]] ==Problem old "SOFI" solution== # the application is names per parish "socken" but the key to a page is random like [[ http://www4.sprakochfolkminnen.se/NAU/bilder/_s1xx001/504225b1.htm | _s1xx001/504225b1 ]] instead of using the parish code e.g. Söderala has the "sockenkod" = 2439 ## [[ http://www.fmis.raa.se/cocoon/fornsok/search.html?tab=2&page=1&parish=2439 | Fornsök use 2439 ]] ==> much easier to link ## Same Statens historiska museum URL [[ http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/socken.asp?snkod=2439 | mis.historiska.se...snkod=2439 ]] ### sv:Wikipedia has today 2411 pages linking SOFI [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:L%C3%A4nkar_hit/Mall:Sn-SOFI&limit=5000 | see page ]] with more than [[ https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=category&target=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKategori%3ASocknar_i_Sverige&start=2017-07-21&end=2018-07-21&subjectpage=0&subcategories=1&sort=views&direction=1&view=list | 1 000 000 views / year ]] {F24558140} ### Those Wikipedia pages about socken has about 1 000 000 views per year [[ https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=category&target=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKategori%3ASocknar_i_Sverige&start=2017-07-21&end=2018-07-21&subjectpage=0&subcategories=1&sort=views&direction=1&view=list | link ]] **User stories:** As a person doing genealogy I would like to easy find the church archives but also the namer registers from SOFI The challenge is that we are now connecting for all "församlingar" in Wikipedia/Wikidata "Riksarkivet" NAD = church archives see workspace at [[ https://github.com/salgo60/Svenskaforsamlingar | GitHub ]] but information like SOFI is connected to the more stable administrative unit Socken See also: * {T199893}

Regarding to a [[ https://twitter.com/namnfragor/status/1025818832399683587 | tweet ]] SOFI is building a new SOFI register I would like to get an understanding what kind of solution and how it will be designed ==> so we can see how it fits into what Wikidata is doing * [[ https://twitter.com/namnfragor/status/1025818832399683587 | Tweet ]] - //Vi jobbar på ett nytt ortnamnsregister – tyvärr är det inte klart att lansera än!// > Contact information > salgo60@msn.com > 0705937579 > [[ https://www.linkedin.com/in/magnus-s%C3%A4lg%C3%B6-148890/ | Linked in ]] ==Problem old "SOFI" solution== # the application is names per parish "socken" but the key to a page is random like [[ http://www4.sprakochfolkminnen.se/NAU/bilder/_s1xx001/504225b1.htm | _s1xx001/504225b1 ]] instead of using the parish code e.g. Söderala has the "sockenkod" = 2439 ## [[ http://www.fmis.raa.se/cocoon/fornsok/search.html?tab=2&page=1&parish=2439 | Fornsök use 2439 ]] ==> much easier to link ## Same Statens historiska museum URL [[ http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/socken.asp?snkod=2439 | mis.historiska.se...snkod=2439 ]] ### sv:Wikipedia has today 2411 pages linking SOFI [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:L%C3%A4nkar_hit/Mall:Sn-SOFI&limit=5000 | see page ]] with more than [[ https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=category&target=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKategori%3ASocknar_i_Sverige&start=2017-07-21&end=2018-07-21&subjectpage=0&subcategories=1&sort=views&direction=1&view=list | 1 000 000 views / year ]] {F24558140} ### Those Wikipedia pages about socken has about 1 000 000 views per year [[ https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=category&target=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKategori%3ASocknar_i_Sverige&start=2017-07-21&end=2018-07-21&subjectpage=0&subcategories=1&sort=views&direction=1&view=list | link ]] **User stories:** As a person doing genealogy I would like to easy find the church archives but also the name registers from SOFI * Example: ** Söderala churchbook NAD [[ https://sok.riksarkivet.se/?postid=ArkisRef%20SE/HLA/1010201 | SE/HLA/1010201 ]] *** Wikipedia [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B6derala_f%C3%B6rsamling | Söderala församling ]] - WD Söderala församling [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688470 | WD:Q10688470 ]] *** WD NAD property [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5324 | P5324 ]] --> [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688470#P5324 | WD:Q10688470#P5324 ]] {F24565238} ** SOFI Söderala *** Wikipedia [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B6derala_socken | Söderala socken ]] - WD Söderala socken [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688474 | Q10688474 ]] *** * SOFI [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5536 | P5536 ]] --> [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688474#P5536 | Q10688474#P5536 ]] {F24565249} The challenge is that we are now connecting for all "församlingar" in Wikipedia/Wikidata "Riksarkivet" NAD = church archives see workspace at [[ https://github.com/salgo60/Svenskaforsamlingar | GitHub ]] but information like SOFI is connected to the more stable administrative unit Socken See also: * {T199893}

Regarding to a [[ https://twitter.com/namnfragor/status/1025818832399683587 | tweet ]] SOFI is building a new SOFI register I would like to get an understanding what kind of solution and how it will be designed ==> so we can see how it fits into what Wikidata is doing * [[ https://twitter.com/namnfragor/status/1025818832399683587 | Tweet ]] - //Vi jobbar på ett nytt ortnamnsregister – tyvärr är det inte klart att lansera än!// > Contact information > salgo60@msn.com > 0705937579 > [[ https://www.linkedin.com/in/magnus-s%C3%A4lg%C3%B6-148890/ | Linked in ]] ==Problem old "SOFI" solution== # the application is names per parish "socken" but the key to a page is random like [[ http://www4.sprakochfolkminnen.se/NAU/bilder/_s1xx001/504225b1.htm | _s1xx001/504225b1 ]] instead of using the parish code e.g. Söderala has the "sockenkod" = 2439 ## [[ http://www.fmis.raa.se/cocoon/fornsok/search.html?tab=2&page=1&parish=2439 | Fornsök use 2439 ]] ==> much easier to link ## Same Statens historiska museum URL [[ http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/socken.asp?snkod=2439 | mis.historiska.se...snkod=2439 ]] ### sv:Wikipedia has today 2411 pages linking SOFI [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:L%C3%A4nkar_hit/Mall:Sn-SOFI&limit=5000 | see page ]] with more than [[ https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=category&target=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKategori%3ASocknar_i_Sverige&start=2017-07-21&end=2018-07-21&subjectpage=0&subcategories=1&sort=views&direction=1&view=list | 1 000 000 views / year ]] {F24558140} ### Those Wikipedia pages about socken has about 1 000 000 views per year [[ https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=category&target=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKategori%3ASocknar_i_Sverige&start=2017-07-21&end=2018-07-21&subjectpage=0&subcategories=1&sort=views&direction=1&view=list | link ]] **User stories:** As a person doing genealogy I would like to easy find the church archives but also the namer registers from SOFI registers from SOFI * Example: ** Söderala churchbook NAD [[ https://sok.riksarkivet.se/?postid=ArkisRef%20SE/HLA/1010201 | SE/HLA/1010201 ]] *** Wikipedia [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B6derala_f%C3%B6rsamling | Söderala församling ]] - WD Söderala församling [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688470 | WD:Q10688470 ]] *** WD NAD property [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5324 | P5324 ]] --> [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688470#P5324 | WD:Q10688470#P5324 ]] {F24565238} ** SOFI Söderala *** Wikipedia [[ https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B6derala_socken | Söderala socken ]] - WD Söderala socken [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688474 | Q10688474 ]] *** * SOFI [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5536 | P5536 ]] --> [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10688474#P5536 | Q10688474#P5536 ]] {F24565249} The challenge is that we are now connecting for all "församlingar" in Wikipedia/Wikidata "Riksarkivet" NAD = church archives see workspace at [[ https://github.com/salgo60/Svenskaforsamlingar | GitHub ]] but information like SOFI is connected to the more stable administrative unit Socken See also: * {T199893}