for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5982970\" id=\"5982970\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_117\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5982970\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 7:46 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 07:46:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5982984\" id=\"5982984\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_120\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_37\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/3592065\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5982984\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 7:46 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 07:46:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5982998\" id=\"5982998\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_123\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T248062\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003eT248062: Deprecate and remove `.background-image-svg()` mixin from 'mediawiki.mixins.less'\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5982998\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 7:50 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 07:50:48 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5r6r67aphx74kvttdyr6\/PHID-FILE-h5yjymfbrm6pbxrwaz5v\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Dinoguy1000\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5983007\" id=\"5983007\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_126\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Dinoguy1000\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003eDinoguy1000\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5983007\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 7:53 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 07:53:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985340\" id=\"5985340\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_129\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_130\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985340\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 8:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 20:14:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985405\" id=\"5985405\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_133\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-rp2iqgqfmpeuty7\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985405\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 8:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 20:38:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_146\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_144\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_145\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985512\" id=\"5985512\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_143\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985512\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 8:54 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 20:54:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_141\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eRelated as only possible strong effect on IE8 users were HTML5 native element support \u003ca href=\"\/T25932\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT25932\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e. The solution is not to follow-up on it anytime soon as it would take away styling completely for this browser.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDid you mean \u003ca href=\"\/T122965\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT122965\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e? That was solved years ago with html5shiv.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/izaj2fyaoaphmxx6l3qt\/PHID-FILE-c7fb5w3uspd34ujaw5dw\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hbsqb32yun6r5pkpkezk\/PHID-FILE-un6rkpkkcggll2hhu2ng\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"116.875\" alt=\"image.png (1\u00d72 px, 1 MB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nHomepage to our \u201cbasically supported\u201d software for IE 8.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe only broken thing there is the thumbnail, which is only broken there due to a bad local template CSS rule specific to mediawiki.org's main page. I've fixed that:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4nkmjk6va47emi6ne4sh\/PHID-FILE-i2ldq5nna2jbqtw3v5zw\/ie8.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2ve4jrfmrqyas2nkphvw\/PHID-FILE-j4xf4de3eos2gglgru4d\/preview-ie8.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"155.42472666106\" alt=\"ie8.png (1\u00d72 px, 2 MB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eon a similar quest about supporting IE6: "I remain convinced that it's worth it-- at least for security issues--as long as a browser retains at least 1% market share"\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis statement is imho misleading because it was about Grade A JavaScript support, not basic access. This comment was made in 2011, removal of IE6 from Grade A was in 2014, removal of IE6 from basic access was last year, in 2019 (at 0.1%).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNote that we also have not used the 1% since 2011. This would be inappropiate for us to use today for a public good like Wikipedia. 1% is huge, that is 1:100 worldwide. And if it is our cut-off for a single browser, that means added together we would have an even higher percentage outside our basic support level. For comparison, consider \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eworld population by language\u003c\/a\u003e, or \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003epopulation by country\u003c\/a\u003e (e.g. USA is 4%, German-speaking is 0.9%). Since 2011, the main percentage we have used for browser support is 0.1% as maximum \u003cem\u003ebefore\u003c\/em\u003e considering removal of basic support.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eFirefox 2, in comparison, has consistently higher percentage of 0.2%-0.4% in all weeks of 2020 so far.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI suspect this might be due to fake or corrupt data, because Firefox 2 and 3 are not able to connect to wikipedia.org since our newer TLS ciphper requirements about two years ago. Trying to connect to wikipedia.org from WinXP\/FF3 in BrowserStack yields get a connection error.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOur frontend development is primarily reviewed and validated by feature compatibility. My main question would be: What HTTP, CSS, or HTML features are we expecting to unlock for the basic experience. In other words, something that IE8 or Android 2 do not support, but IE9+ or Android 3+ do.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/3q7hvhyjfxqxvbtfnsai\/PHID-FILE-utm6nlssecqr4tn4exv4\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdrewniak\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985538\" id=\"5985538\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_148\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_149\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdrewniak\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003eJdrewniak\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985538\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 9:06 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 21:06:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985564\" id=\"5985564\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_152\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-iqhbim2st3kbfpr\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985564\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 9:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 21:15:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985569\" id=\"5985569\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_155\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-57wwcmoz62d4dzi\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985569\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 9:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 21:24:42 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_166\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985699\" id=\"5985699\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_165\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985699\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_164\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 10:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 22:33:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_163\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Krinkle\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e In reference to \u003ca href=\"\/T25932\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT25932\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, I've meant that skin's HTML5 elements choice might resurge again (task mention was misleading, agreed). We've had discussions about using elements like \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emain\u003c\/tt\u003e, \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eheader\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003efooter\u003c\/tt\u003e with opposition provided for example in \u003ca href=\"\/T63801#1466456\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT63801#1466456\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e (2017) about possible breakage. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nGiven that our two main skins Vector and MinervaNeue already have taken different paths, former without, latter with HTML5 sectioning elements the argument about \u201c[s]cripts, bots, whatever depend on the previous HTML structure and they all need to be migrated over\u201d would have to be re-evaluated and limited to desktop only. Note that Timeless follows Vector currently and doesn't rely on HTML5 sectioning elements.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nFiled \u003ca href=\"\/T248137\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248137\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e to capture technical debt task.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf we're continuing the separation, we have to acknowledge that MinervaNeue on desktop users are facing these possible breakages here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor one example of positive outcome, I've added \u003ca href=\"\/T248062\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248062\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e above. While we've got a automated step in a library like OOUI to build the PNGs it's a burden for other SVG background image usages, both on design and development side. And also a minor burden about CSS sent to the client.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985730\" id=\"5985730\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_168\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-saqvs2dm4ch66t4\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985730\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 10:51 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 22:51:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p5u77oqyov4ap3ps6cpc\/PHID-FILE-gjasyhyux3vagjtellif\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Demian\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5985819\" id=\"5985819\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_171\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Demian\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Demian\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5985819\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_170\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 19 2020, 11:54 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-19 23:54:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_182\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5987532\" id=\"5987532\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_180\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5987532\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_179\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 20 2020, 4:59 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-20 16:59:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_178\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T248061#5985699\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248061#5985699\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Volker_E\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Krinkle\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e In reference to \u003ca href=\"\/T25932\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT25932\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, I've meant that skin's HTML5 elements choice might resurge again (task mention was misleading, agreed). We've had discussions about using elements like \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emain\u003c\/tt\u003e, \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eheader\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003efooter\u003c\/tt\u003e with opposition provided for example in \u003ca href=\"\/T63801#1466456\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT63801#1466456\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e (2017) about possible breakage.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYes, that was a comment from 2015 about compat with older browsers for styling. This was solved in 2017 with \u003ca href=\"\/T122965\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT122965\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e by shipping the html5shiv, which we've been doing in production for three years now. By all means, use it, today wherever it enhances the user experience. That's what we're shipping it for :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/3mqrant63ndishc5nu7f\/PHID-FILE-w5bxnf47gmyrdcr6bath\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Niedzielski\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5992911\" id=\"5992911\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_185\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Niedzielski\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Niedzielski\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T232783\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003eT232783: Observe browser capabilities and access scenarios on ongoing basis\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5992911\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_184\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 23 2020, 6:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-23 18:38:42 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_197\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/v5wmnfiaelrd6nztxd3a\/PHID-FILE-s57znldbv3qchtewuryd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/14\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-empire\" data-meta=\"0_196\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5994358\" id=\"5994358\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_194\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003edaniel\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5994358\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_193\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 24 2020, 9:56 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-24 09:56:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_192\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWas this intended as an RFC, or just tagged for attention of \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-disabled phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-users\" data-meta=\"0_17\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eTechCom\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/v5wmnfiaelrd6nztxd3a\/PHID-FILE-s57znldbv3qchtewuryd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5994360\" id=\"5994360\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_199\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003edaniel\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/90\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003eInbox\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/90\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003eWatching\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003eTechCom\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5994360\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_198\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 24 2020, 9:58 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-24 09:58:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_209\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5999611\" id=\"5999611\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_208\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5999611\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_207\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 25 2020, 7:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-25 19:04:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_206\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e Mainly for attention. As far as I'm aware of, one major point about dropping support for IE 6 being an RfC was about wider technical range including security concerns\u2026?! The scope here, both on IE 8 and Android 2.0+ browsers is more limited.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6000891\" id=\"6000891\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_211\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-xhxsji3l6n7bt5x\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6000891\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 26 2020, 4:56 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-26 04:56:23 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_216\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/3mqrant63ndishc5nu7f\/PHID-FILE-w5bxnf47gmyrdcr6bath\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Niedzielski\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6003251\" id=\"6003251\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_214\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_215\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Niedzielski\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Niedzielski\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6003251\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_213\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 26 2020, 8:02 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-26 20:02:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6003713\" id=\"6003713\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_218\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-3edbu2gqcbuva4u\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6003713\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_217\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 26 2020, 10:35 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-26 22:35:27 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_230\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_228\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_229\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6003872\" id=\"6003872\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_227\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e edited projects, added \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e; removed \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003eTechCom\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6003872\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_226\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 26 2020, 11:32 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-26 23:32:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_224\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_225\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eDiscussed this in TechCom this week. Daniel read my comments as opposition which was not my intent, so in case others read the same, I'll clarify here on the task as well.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy opinion is that the arguments used in the original task description were not good reasons to drop support because they were misunderstandings:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1% is not acceptable for Grade C decisions, and never has been. Even back in 2010 before we had a grading system, before ResourceLoader, and before feature-testing, we already used 0.1% as cut-off \u2013 based on "Squid cache User-Agent usage" (\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/w\/index.php?title=Supported_browsers&oldid=400061\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003elink\u003c\/a\u003e).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe thumbnail rendering bug has nothing to do with software or product support. That was a template bug specific to the mediawiki.org main page.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eUsing HTML5 is already possible and has been since 2017, not affected by which browsers we support.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eRemoving PNG support for interface critical icons is already possible as most icons are optional in the first place (e.g. "user" icon in p-personal, and "more" arrow).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBased only on this it seemed to me like the cost-benefit balance hold up. I see \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Volker_E\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e has since updated the task description to provide many other benefits, which all seem fair indeed. Thanks!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn any event, like with \u003ca href=\"\/T232563\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT232563\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, dropping basic support is quite impactful to many stakeholders so assuming we go ahead with this, that definitely seems worthy of an RFC. It doesn't have to be complicated or take a long time, it's just due dilligence (last time it only 3-4 weeks).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eTwo main things that I think would be useful for stakeholders to know, aside from the benefits, is:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWhat is the usage of these browsers currently?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eE.g. in the last months, and compared to 1 and 2 years ago. Also, to avoid being biased by global averages, it would also be useful to know in which countries these two browsers are used and whether there is any mobile+country or desktop+country combination where IE8 or Android2 has more than 1% use.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor example, if it turns out that > 1% of Wikipedia mobile traffic in Indonesia uses Android 2.x, that's the sort of thing Product might want to know before deciding on this, regardless of whether it saves a little bit of maintenance time.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWhat is the cost of supporting these currently?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThings like box-shadow are naturally progressive, which means no fallback is needed for them. What about the others, do they have non-trivial fallbacks or limitations? What do we currently do instead?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_233\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6003885\" id=\"6003885\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_232\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-g27adca447nyuwm\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6003885\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_231\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 26 2020, 11:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-26 23:56:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_242\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6003916\" id=\"6003916\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_241\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6003916\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_240\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 27 2020, 12:11 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-27 00:11:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_238\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_239\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eQuick response: Would it make sense\/preferred to separate concerns then? Have IE 8 and Android 2.x tackled in different tasks (or even RfCs)?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_251\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/7lqct4xp34rumpqkxymb\/PHID-FILE-7yq2n2z3fpbyyfcqlhwu\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dbarratt\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6012649\" id=\"6012649\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_250\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dbarratt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003edbarratt\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6012649\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_249\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 30 2020, 8:52 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-30 20:52:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_247\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_248\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMicrosoft \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/en-us\/microsoft-365\/windows\/end-of-ie-support\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003edropped support\u003c\/a\u003e for IE <= 10 on \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e2016-01-12\u003c\/tt\u003e. I would argue that we shouldn't continue to support software that the software vendor themselves no longer support.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_264\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpvr2eembyewyy7kmoah\/PHID-FILE-q3f7troopzjjk6grs5j2\/profile-HelloKittyLounge)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_261\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_262\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_263\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6012656\" id=\"6012656\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_259\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6012656\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_258\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 30 2020, 9:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-30 21:01:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_256\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_257\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eFor example, if it turns out that > 1% of Wikipedia mobile traffic in Indonesia uses Android 2.x, that's the sort of thing Product might want to know before deciding on this, regardless of whether it saves a little bit of maintenance time.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is my biggest concern here. If Android 2 has a big market share in a certain geographical country that's a problem for our mission. I'd like to see some data to reassure us.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003ebackground-size (possibly interface-critical),\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs you point out this is an interface critical CSS property (the other's you mention e.g. box shadow, opacity... seem less critical). I think falling back to no image in text would be fine here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe biggest positive impact are some CSS support improvements like removing PNG fallbacks for SVGs for those browsers, exemplified at \u003ca href=\"\/T248062\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248062\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt seems like PNG support should be completely unnecessary in any kind of JS application given we don't run JS here. If we do want to continue supporting background-size on IE8 as a compromise we could limit this fallback to modules added via addModuleStyles.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_277\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_273\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_274\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_276\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6012681\" id=\"6012681\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_272\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6012681\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_271\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 30 2020, 9:09 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-30 21:09:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_269\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_270\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T248061#6012656\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248061#6012656\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdlrobson\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eFor example, if it turns out that > 1% of Wikipedia mobile traffic in Indonesia uses Android 2.x, that's the sort of thing Product might want to know before deciding on this, regardless of whether it saves a little bit of maintenance time.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is my biggest concern here. If Android 2 has a big market share in a certain geographical country that's a problem for our mission.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAgreed (though this particular example is not applicable; anyone using Android < 4.4.4 hasn't been able to read our sites for months now).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'd like to see some data to reassure us.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHave you explored the data in Superset? That should answer those questions, I think.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_290\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpvr2eembyewyy7kmoah\/PHID-FILE-q3f7troopzjjk6grs5j2\/profile-HelloKittyLounge)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_286\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_287\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_288\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_289\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6012698\" id=\"6012698\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_285\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6012698\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_284\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 30 2020, 9:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-30 21:16:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_282\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_283\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003enyone using Android < 4.4.4 hasn't been able to read our sites for months now).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCan you expand out that? I've likely missed a phab ticket or email..\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eHave you explored the data in Superset? That should answer those questions, I think.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI haven't and I agree that it should answer those. I just wanted to note that I think this is a requirement in the decision making process and would help further the conversation.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_303\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_299\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_300\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_301\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_302\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6012761\" id=\"6012761\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_298\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6012761\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_297\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 30 2020, 9:40 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-30 21:40:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_295\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_296\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T248061#6012698\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248061#6012698\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdlrobson\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003enyone using Android < 4.4.4 hasn't been able to read our sites for months now).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCan you expand out that? I've likely missed a phab ticket or email..\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/T238038\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT238038\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e. I think the relevant bit for production traffic is \u003ca href=\"\/rOPUP37d0f1078519840fd986914a21b065588e02634b\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003erOPUP37d0f1078519: idp: Set SSL compatibilty mode to strong\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e which went live in mid-November 2019.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLooking at the data from \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/\u003c\/a\u003e the last time we have Android 2 (the OS, and also the browser) in the numbers at all was w\/c 2019-10-27, when they were 0.0074% of all requests.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't see any significant reduction in Android 4 OS users in that time (there are a handful of users of the native browser but not since December; mostly they'll be using Chrome or whatever).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_306\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vosyrfbf56d3egu76up6\/PHID-FILE-56qatnoq3wgriwhc3ujw\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Shizhao\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6013132\" id=\"6013132\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_305\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Shizhao\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003eShizhao\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/user-notice\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003eUser-notice\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6013132\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_304\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 31 2020, 2:05 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-31 02:05:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_310\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ojwbfntu5tqpwhaoiqhk\/PHID-FILE-lqnvzvmxt6cyf37tlcpx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MusikAnimal\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6013141\" id=\"6013141\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_308\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_309\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MusikAnimal\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003eMusikAnimal\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6013141\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_307\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 31 2020, 2:38 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-31 02:38:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_321\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c5mll4i2ivmjlggdpizk\/PHID-FILE-x2xqxc36bpfpfub7m6rd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/2\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_319\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-bug\" data-meta=\"0_320\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6013522\" id=\"6013522\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_318\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6013522\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_317\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 31 2020, 7:18 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-31 07:18:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_315\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_316\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T248061#6012649\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248061#6012649\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/dbarratt\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@dbarratt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMicrosoft \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/en-us\/microsoft-365\/windows\/end-of-ie-support\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003edropped support\u003c\/a\u003e for IE <= 10 on \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e2016-01-12\u003c\/tt\u003e. I would argue that we shouldn't continue to support software that the software vendor themselves no longer support.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt disappoints me to see vendor support statements being brought up as unhelpful "arguments", instead of pageview data (reality).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_324\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2gffy5bww6ck2ynuxnpz\/PHID-FILE-jyvkjrrdy7c4mbtu7gb3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RhinosF1\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6014073\" id=\"6014073\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_323\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RhinosF1\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003eRhinosF1\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6014073\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_322\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 31 2020, 10:06 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-03-31 10:06:27 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_333\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p5u77oqyov4ap3ps6cpc\/PHID-FILE-gjasyhyux3vagjtellif\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Demian\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6017455\" id=\"6017455\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_332\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Demian\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Demian\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6017455\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 1 2020, 6:11 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-01 06:11:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_329\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_330\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T248061#6013522\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248061#6013522\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Aklapper\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T248061#6012649\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT248061#6012649\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/dbarratt\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@dbarratt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMicrosoft \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/en-us\/microsoft-365\/windows\/end-of-ie-support\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003edropped support\u003c\/a\u003e for IE <= 10 on \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e2016-01-12\u003c\/tt\u003e. I would argue that we shouldn't continue to support software that the software vendor themselves no longer support.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt disappoints me to see vendor support statements being brought up as unhelpful "arguments", instead of pageview data (reality).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat's a helpful hint for where to look for dropoff. Disappointment? Not helpful. I don't see you showing the pageview data either, so what I could find is:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003ch6 class=\"remarkup-header\"\u003eDesktop\u003c\/h6\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/#desktop-site-by-browser\/browser-family-and-major-hierarchical-view\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/#desktop-site-by-browser\/browser-family-and-major-hierarchical-view\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"Showing data from 2020-02-26 to 2020-04-01"\u003cbr \/\u003e\nIE only: 6.6%\u003cbr \/\u003e\nof which:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eIE11\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e95%*6.6%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e6.27% of all\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eIE10\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.35%*6.6%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.0231%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eIE9\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e1.8%*6.6%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.1188%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eWindows 7 default\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eIE8\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.71%*6.6%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.04686%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eIE7\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003enot visible\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003ein diagram\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eIE6\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e1.8%*6.6%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.1188%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eWindows XP default\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThus:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003e8<=IE<=10\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e2.86%*6.6%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.1887% of all\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eIE<=10\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e5%*6.6%\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e0.33% of all\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003ch6 class=\"remarkup-header\"\u003eMobile\u003c\/h6\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/#mobile-site-by-os\/os-family-and-major-hierarchical-view\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/#mobile-site-by-os\/os-family-and-major-hierarchical-view\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAndroid<4 not visible on the diagram: much less than 0.33% (iOS9)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePer-country statistics not available without DB access.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_344\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/v5wmnfiaelrd6nztxd3a\/PHID-FILE-s57znldbv3qchtewuryd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/14\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_342\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-empire\" data-meta=\"0_343\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6019291\" id=\"6019291\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_341\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003edaniel\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003eP1: Define\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003eOld\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6019291\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_340\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 1 2020, 3:28 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-01 15:28:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_338\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_339\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMoved to backlog, pending decision on whether to split this. Please move to the inbox again when attention by TechCom is desired.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_347\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6019431\" id=\"6019431\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_346\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eRemove IE 8 and Android 2.0+ from basic support\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eRFC: Remove IE 8 and Android 2.0+ from basic support\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6019431\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_345\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 1 2020, 3:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-01 15:48:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_350\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6019820\" id=\"6019820\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_349\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-g7hw2grj2wz35te\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6019820\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_348\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 1 2020, 5:03 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-01 17:03:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_353\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6020185\" id=\"6020185\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_352\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-2jyx3xm2zn6xyn4\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6020185\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_351\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 1 2020, 6:03 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-01 18:03:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_356\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p5u77oqyov4ap3ps6cpc\/PHID-FILE-gjasyhyux3vagjtellif\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Demian\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6021220\" id=\"6021220\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_355\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Demian\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Demian\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T245190\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003eT245190: Implement guidelines around logos creation\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6021220\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_354\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 2 2020, 1:18 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-02 01:18:25 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_359\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6025000\" id=\"6025000\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_358\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-mzxokbqhmdesio6\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6025000\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_357\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 2 2020, 11:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-02 23:19:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_362\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6025001\" id=\"6025001\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_361\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-xbn2dbdl63jyyla\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6025001\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_360\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 2 2020, 11:32 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-02 23:32:32 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_365\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6025194\" id=\"6025194\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_364\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T178398\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003eT178398: Use semantic HTML5 <main> tag for primary page content\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6025194\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_363\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 3 2020, 2:01 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-03 02:01:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_368\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6025536\" id=\"6025536\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_367\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_107\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-q4mi7d4dmuu5cbw\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6025536\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_366\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 3 2020, 7:13 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-03 07:13:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_379\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_377\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_378\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6027497\" id=\"6027497\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_376\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6027497\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_375\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 3 2020, 6:39 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-03 18:39:24 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_373\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_374\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_109\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xf5u53d62vwpmdvsmaef\/PHID-FILE-wodnxtbyb436lj6anrsk\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ypxujgyxisagivegg4cg\/PHID-FILE-b3oywz6vdhwdaxs2dgk4\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"120.48494983278\" alt=\"image.png (1\u00d72 px, 1 MB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eHomepage in ja (upper)\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSimilar to the previous bug you reported, this is not related to our software. This is a local wikitext template on mediawiki.org, not part of our software. It's largely community maintained and in particular, I don't think the audience of developers that want to download MediaWIki or read about how to install it is comparable to the end-users included in the wider knowledge mission of our projects. I think our development tools like Gerrit and Phabricator might also have less wide browser support than Wikipedia, which is a trade-off.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe local wikitext hack uses \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<span style="position: absolute; opacity: 0;">\u2026<\/span>\u003c\/tt\u003e, which indeed doesn't work in all browsers.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_391\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_389\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_390\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6027724\" id=\"6027724\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_387\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-ubfe37dqwjyeh5z\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6027724\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 3 2020, 8:37 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-03 20:37:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_388\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_111\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_112\"\u003eOld\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003eP1: Define\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cem\u003e(Updated task to use the new 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