for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5732254\" id=\"5732254\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_66\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5732254\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 11 2019, 3:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-11 15:11:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5732264\" id=\"5732264\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_69\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_20\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/3439878\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5732264\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 11 2019, 3:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-11 15:11:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5732344\" id=\"5732344\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_72\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e added a parent task: \u003ca href=\"\/T240462\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003eT240462: Review and evolve client environment around EventLogging\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5732344\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 11 2019, 3:26 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-11 15:26:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gaj2wbcq54jfzcscgqrn\/PHID-FILE-jyedy4j2gqeydwbnujxx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5732683\" id=\"5732683\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_75\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003eOttomata\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T240477\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003eT240477: eventgate-wikimedia should fill in defaults for some important fields\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5732683\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 11 2019, 4:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-11 16:33:42 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5736020\" id=\"5736020\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_78\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eClients need to generate an ISO 8601 formatted UTC timestamp\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eClients need to generate an ISO 8601 formatted timestamp\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5736020\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2019, 2:05 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-12 14:05:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_79\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-avyz273nh4hjtfa\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gaj2wbcq54jfzcscgqrn\/PHID-FILE-jyedy4j2gqeydwbnujxx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5736170\" id=\"5736170\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_88\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003eOttomata\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5736170\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2019, 3:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-12 15:01:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_86\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf we can, everything in UTC is preferred.  I think if we want to record the client's timezone, we should either use a different dt field, or just record the timezone itself as its own field.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5736252\" id=\"5736252\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_97\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5736252\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2019, 3:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-12 15:13:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_95\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T240460#5736170\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT240460#5736170\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Ottomata\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf we can, everything in UTC is preferred.  I think if we want to record the client's timezone, we should either use a different dt field, or just record the timezone itself as its own field.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYes I agree. I didn't even think much about this but I wanted to make sure we considered use-cases that might somehow want the timezone offset. I agree that the best approach would be to allow schemas desiring one to provide a separate field for it. Otherwise the 'dt' will not be specified very strictly and it will be a PITA to query.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_107\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lwsbrbjls7w6532efhdg\/PHID-FILE-cj7yeswafyouhtsngnos\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5736259\" id=\"5736259\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_106\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003empopov\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5736259\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2019, 3:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-12 15:19:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_104\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can get down with UTC in \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e with a separate field for timezone \u2013 e.g. \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.tz\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJust want it noted that to facilitate querying in Hive, where there's a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003efrom_utc_timestamp({any primitive type} ts, string timezone)\u003c\/tt\u003e UDF (see \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/cwiki.apache.org\/confluence\/display\/Hive\/LanguageManual+UDF#LanguageManualUDF-DateFunctions\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eDate Functions\u003c\/a\u003e), the timezone should \u2013 ideally \u2013 be what Hive supports. (I have not been able to find such a list.)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Ottomata\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: what are your reservations against local time + UTC offset?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gaj2wbcq54jfzcscgqrn\/PHID-FILE-jyedy4j2gqeydwbnujxx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5736284\" id=\"5736284\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_116\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003eOttomata\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5736284\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2019, 3:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-12 15:34:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_114\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt isn't just hive. The dt is used for the Kafka message timestamp (it should get propertly translated into a UTC unix ts before set though independent of what the ISO TZ is), as well as for hive hourly bucket partitioning.  I believe that Camus will properly interpret the ISO TZ when bucketing, but this means that we would partitions that might say e.g. hour=0, but records in that partition  might have meta.dt = 2019-12-12T05:00:00+0500.  Not a huge deal, but could be confusing.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnother issue: we decided to support server side setting of meta.dt if not set by client in EventGate: \u003ca href=\"\/T240477\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT240477: eventgate-wikimedia should fill in defaults for some important fields\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.  If we do this, EventGate will always set UTC, independent of what the client's TZ if.  This might get confusing if some clients in +0500 set meta.dt (with TZ info), but others don't.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnyway, if there were really good reasons to not always use UTC, we I'm sure we could figure out how to support it, but I'm afraid it would complicate things unnecessarily.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gaj2wbcq54jfzcscgqrn\/PHID-FILE-jyedy4j2gqeydwbnujxx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5736287\" id=\"5736287\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_125\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003eOttomata\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5736287\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2019, 3:40 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-12 15:40:25 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_123\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(removed comment about sortability, that was wrong)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5736764\" id=\"5736764\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_135\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5736764\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2019, 5:05 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-12 17:05:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_133\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T240460#5736284\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT240460#5736284\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Ottomata\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnother issue: we decided to support server side setting of meta.dt if not set by client in EventGate: \u003ca href=\"\/T240477\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT240477: eventgate-wikimedia should fill in defaults for some important fields\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think even if we have support for this, that it should not be used on analytics events. In general I am extremely wary of these defaults becoming too widely used. I think for the GeoIP and (arguably) UA use-cases that they were originally conceived for, there is unfortunately no alternative. But I think to go beyond that is something that should be done with great caution.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe case of 'dt' would illustrate why I am cautious, because in order to tell whether the value was recorded on the client or on the server, one would have to check what the defaults were etc., and that is something that may or may not be apparent. Plenty of people right now are not aware that timestamps are generated server-side in the current system.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith analytics events, we have a very clear requirement that timestamps be generated client-side. I think that the concern about 'dt' we discussed on the error logging client was that \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nuria\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@Nuria\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e pointed out that some browsers did not support \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eDate.prototype.getISOString()\u003c\/tt\u003e. I think that is best remedied with a polyfill in MediaWiki. If no polyfill can be arranged (for some reason), then I would rather see the browser provide what it can as a high-resolution UTC timestamp in some format, and have EG convert that to ISO 8601 format, rather than compute its own UTC time.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5739845\" id=\"5739845\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-right phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_138\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e triaged this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eLow\u003c\/span\u003e priority.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5739845\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_137\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 13 2019, 5:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-12-13 17:25:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_139\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/3776\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003eInbox\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/3776\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003eDone!\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/better_use_of_data\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003eBetter Use Of Data\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_149\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lwsbrbjls7w6532efhdg\/PHID-FILE-cj7yeswafyouhtsngnos\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5921758\" id=\"5921758\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_148\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003empopov\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5921758\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 26 2020, 9:43 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-26 21:43:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_145\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_146\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOkay, so looking at \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eDate.prototype.toISOString()\u003c\/tt\u003e's support across browsers on \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/kangax.github.io\/compat-table\/es5\/#test-Date.prototype.toISOString\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/kangax.github.io\/compat-table\/es5\/#test-Date.prototype.toISOString\u003c\/a\u003e (from \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/caniuse.com\/#search=Date.prototype.toISOString\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/caniuse.com\/#search=Date.prototype.toISOString\u003c\/a\u003e):\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5evgou62g6srvcvtpswn\/PHID-FILE-ev7d7xtdygeungvjx254\/Date-prototype-toISOString-support.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/o5ttbae5qqy4cjkp5qfl\/PHID-FILE-riunzxn4vbsqhk3pju6h\/preview-Date-prototype-toISOString-support.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"55\" alt=\"Date-prototype-toISOString-support.png (870\u00d74 px, 506 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo, really, the big offender is IE 8 \u2013 which we still support at a basic level \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Compatibility#Browser_support_matrix\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Compatibility#Browser_support_matrix\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI wanted to see how limited we would be if we, say, just said "no MEP-CL events from IE 8" so I looked at IE versions of events we received from\/to certain schemas in 2020-02:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"SQL\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\" style=\" max-height: 12em; overflow: auto;\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euse\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003eevent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e;\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eselect\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003edistinct\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'EditAttemptStep'\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eas\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eschema\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e,\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_major\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003efrom\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003eeditattemptstep\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003ewhere\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eyear\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2020\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003emonth\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2\u003c\/span\u003e\n  \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_family\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'IE'\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eunion\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eall\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eselect\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003edistinct\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'SearchSatisfaction'\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eas\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eschema\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e,\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_major\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003efrom\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003esearchsatisfaction\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003ewhere\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eyear\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2020\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003emonth\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2\u003c\/span\u003e\n  \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_family\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'IE'\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eunion\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eall\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eselect\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003edistinct\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'WikipediaPortal'\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eas\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eschema\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e,\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_major\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003efrom\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ewikipediaportal\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003ewhere\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eyear\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2020\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003emonth\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2\u003c\/span\u003e\n  \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_family\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'IE'\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eunion\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eall\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eselect\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003edistinct\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'VirtualPageView'\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eas\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eschema\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e,\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_major\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003efrom\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003evirtualpageview\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003ewhere\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eyear\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2020\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003emonth\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2\u003c\/span\u003e\n  \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_family\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'IE'\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eunion\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eall\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eselect\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003edistinct\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'HomepageVisit'\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eas\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eschema\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e`\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e,\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_major\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003efrom\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ehomepagevisit\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003ewhere\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eyear\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2020\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003emonth\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"mi\"\u003e2\u003c\/span\u003e\n  \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eand\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003euseragent\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"n\"\u003ebrowser_family\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"o\"\u003e=\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s1\"\u003e'IE'\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003cth\u003eschema\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 2???\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 3???\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 4???\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 5???\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 6\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 7\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 8\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 9\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 10\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 11\u003c\/th\u003e\u003cth\u003eIE 42582???\u003c\/th\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eEditAttemptStep\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eHomepageVisit\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eSearchSatisfaction\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eVirtualPageView\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eWikipediaPortal\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u2705\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u274c\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOkay, so user agent parsing isn't perfect but it does tell us that we shouldn't just cut out IE 8 users \u2013 as that's still valuable data for teams (e.g. Growth team's Homepage analytics).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo it looks like it's worth investing in adding a polyfill to MediaWiki, as mentioned earlier.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_158\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/utgwrwkhuw6vizkywcou\/PHID-FILE-36umycp75fzx37k2sow5\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nuria\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5921966\" id=\"5921966\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_157\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nuria\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Nuria\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5921966\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 26 2020, 11:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-26 23:24:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_155\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mpopov\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e  I thought we removed js support for IE8 a while back. See: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.wikimedia.org\/T118303\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-blue phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-anchor\" data-meta=\"0_11\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003ehttps:\/\/phabricator.wikimedia.org\/T118303\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e and  \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/wikimedia\/mediawiki\/blob\/master\/resources\/src\/startup\/startup.js\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/github.com\/wikimedia\/mediawiki\/blob\/master\/resources\/src\/startup\/startup.js\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDo not believe those UAs , most IE<insert-low-number-here> are bots\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lwsbrbjls7w6532efhdg\/PHID-FILE-cj7yeswafyouhtsngnos\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5923220\" id=\"5923220\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_166\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003empopov\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5923220\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 27 2020, 1:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-27 13:04:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_164\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nuria\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@Nuria\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: Oh cool! Thank you for the links! That makes this a lot easier.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlright, folks. Let's just use \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003enew Date().toISOString()\u003c\/tt\u003e to populate \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e on client-side, then??\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_176\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5923472\" id=\"5923472\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_175\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5923472\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_174\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 27 2020, 2:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-27 14:24:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_173\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T240460#5923220\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT240460#5923220\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mpopov\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nuria\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@Nuria\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: Oh cool! Thank you for the links! That makes this a lot easier.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlright, folks. Let's just use \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003enew Date().toISOString()\u003c\/tt\u003e to populate \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e on client-side, then??\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe might still need to gate the code to check for Date.prototype.toISOString to avoid throwing exceptions on unsupported clients, but we can discuss in CR. I'm fine with marking this resolved since it looks like it won't require a MW patch.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_185\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lwsbrbjls7w6532efhdg\/PHID-FILE-cj7yeswafyouhtsngnos\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5927677\" id=\"5927677\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-check-square-o phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_184\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003empopov\u003c\/a\u003e closed this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eResolved\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5927677\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 28 2020, 7:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-28 19:14:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_182\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e+1 to doing a support check\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_188\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lwsbrbjls7w6532efhdg\/PHID-FILE-cj7yeswafyouhtsngnos\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6077071\" id=\"6077071\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_187\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003empopov\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T250385\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003eT250385: Estimate readership from Internet Explorer 8\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6077071\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 21 2020, 10:02 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-21 22:02:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6090564\" id=\"6090564\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-exclamation-circle phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_190\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e reopened this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eOpen\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6090564\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_189\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 28 2020, 7:06 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-28 19:06:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/i4b4kyw53tbds5shsuz3\/PHID-FILE-4iuedt6yam7nc3g5kfc7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6090575\" id=\"6090575\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_199\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jlinehan\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e jlinehan\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/nshahquinn-wmf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003enshahquinn-wmf\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6090575\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_198\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 28 2020, 7:10 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-28 19:10:32 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_196\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_197\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eRe-opened this task after \u003ca href=\"\/p\/nshahquinn-wmf\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@nshahquinn-wmf\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned that it would be nice to distinguish between client-generated and server-generated values for \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e. This seems reasonable, we should continue to track this and adjust as necessary.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_209\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lwsbrbjls7w6532efhdg\/PHID-FILE-cj7yeswafyouhtsngnos\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6093801\" id=\"6093801\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_208\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mpopov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003empopov\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6093801\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_207\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 29 2020, 2:51 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-29 14:51:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_206\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e+1. Maybe EventGate can set a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003edt_received\u003c\/tt\u003e (or similarly named field)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_218\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gaj2wbcq54jfzcscgqrn\/PHID-FILE-jyedy4j2gqeydwbnujxx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6094157\" id=\"6094157\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_217\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ottomata\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003eOttomata\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6094157\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_216\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 29 2020, 4:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-29 16:19:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_215\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMaybe EventGate can set a dt_received (or similarly named field)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI was ok with making eventgate set \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e since it is a field we require for all schemas.  Instead of adding more custom logic to eventgate, perhaps we should let let eventgate set \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e, but if events need a more specific event time (and don't want to set \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e) they can set it in different field?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe do use \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emeta.dt\u003c\/tt\u003e for the timestamp in Kafka though.  This means that it will be used for both the Hive hourly partitioning, and for any timestamp based consumption in Kafka.  If this is different than the event time, the semantics might be off.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e"},"javelin_metadata":[{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-USER-6s6jrjc3uyqg5sgjwv4b"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-TASK-666ufh2xl4dahwhg77cc"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-TASK-666ufh2xl4dahwhg77cc"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-USER-tafngdco2cilcyr7qhhg","contextPHID":"PHID-TASK-666ufh2xl4dahwhg77cc"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-USER-tafngdco2cilcyr7qhhg","contextPHID":"PHID-TASK-666ufh2xl4dahwhg77cc"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-TASK-a7aljypi5hdybnld56g6"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-TASK-a7aljypi5hdybnld56g6"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-TASK-666ufh2xl4dahwhg77cc"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-USER-tafngdco2cilcyr7qhhg","contextPHID":"PHID-TASK-666ufh2xl4dahwhg77cc"}},{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-USER-mwkkwzbzlkvdl4w2og44","contextPHID":"PHID-TASK-666ufh2xl4dahwhg77cc"}},{"phid":"PHID-FILE-ev7d7xtdygeungvjx254","uri":"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5evgou62g6srvcvtpswn\/PHID-FILE-ev7d7xtdygeungvjx254\/Date-prototype-toISOString-support.png","dUri":"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/download\/5evgou62g6srvcvtpswn\/PHID-FILE-ev7d7xtdygeungvjx254\/Date-prototype-toISOString-support.png","alt":"Date-prototype-toISOString-support.png 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