for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-older-transactions-are-hidden\" data-sigil=\"show-older-block\"\u003eThere are a very large number of changes, so older changes are hidden. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/showolder\/PHID-TASK-abgvq22quwbgv4gvwggv\/?after=1695419&quoteTargetID=UQ0_1&quoteRef=T114432\" data-mustcapture=\"1\" data-sigil=\"show-older-link\"\u003eShow Older Changes\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_180\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1695419\" id=\"1695419\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_178\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-upibebofwbhj6kl\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1695419\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 1 2015, 10:02 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-01 22:02:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_179\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/wikimedia-developer-summit-2016\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003eWikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2enaafxwbpmoa6tskmkt\/PHID-FILE-zr5rvrc6rugkgg7ow6mt\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Negative24\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1695482\" id=\"1695482\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_182\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Negative24\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003eNegative24\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1695482\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 1 2015, 10:17 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-01 22:17:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1695605\" id=\"1695605\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_185\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-zkreecwpckhzgrx\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1695605\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_184\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 1 2015, 10:44 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-01 22:44:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: 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class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1695742\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_193\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 1 2015, 11:29 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-01 23:29:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_192\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eStrict start-of-line constraints would mean that it is impossible to use this without a linebreak, right? That tends to be problematic when inline templates are used in lists.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_204\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/qvjhhztulbklrzxcfdj4\/PHID-FILE-bbvfzmb22ujwjcyiof5l\/profile-self.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/DanielFriesen\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1696009\" id=\"1696009\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_203\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/DanielFriesen\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003eDanielFriesen\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1696009\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_202\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 2 2015, 3:03 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-02 03:03:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_201\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWhile the intention is to try and make things easier. This change basically adds a brand new unintuitive piece of syntax that now everyone has to learn.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI can imagine people saying:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{Table|...}}\u003c\/tt\u003e is a whole template invocation but if you start it with a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>Table}}\u003c\/tt\u003e then the stuff after it up until \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<Table}}\u003c\/tt\u003e are also part of the template invocation.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can understand the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e...\u003c\/tt\u003e in \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{Table|...}}\u003c\/tt\u003e being to \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e1\u003c\/tt\u003e but in \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>Table|b}}a{{<Table}}\u003c\/tt\u003e now it's \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e2\u003c\/tt\u003e and the stuff that comes after the template is \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e1\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003chr class=\"remarkup-hr\" \/\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI could accept having to make everyone learn a new bit of syntax.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nBut there are really two key things that are bothering me about this new syntax.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThis new syntax deals with the need for \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{!}}\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{=}}\u003c\/tt\u003e escapes in the first argument (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{{1}}}\u003c\/tt\u003e). But for every other argument in the syntax VE still has to deal with at minimum \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{!}}\u003c\/tt\u003e escapes.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe parsing of this new curly "template" syntax seems almost functionality equivalent to if we implemented it as a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<template title="Table">...<\/template>\u003c\/tt\u003e tag hook. So I don't like such a strange new syntax when it basically the same as a pattern we already have.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_207\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/chvngxnqoko6t3z6hc6b\/PHID-FILE-apmfbzbqf4i24fx5ac7l\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nikerabbit\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1696207\" 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phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/v5wmnfiaelrd6nztxd3a\/PHID-FILE-s57znldbv3qchtewuryd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1696487\" id=\"1696487\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_209\" 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url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_220\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1697042\" id=\"1697042\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_218\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1697042\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_217\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 2 2015, 2:46 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-02 14:46:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_215\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_216\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn general, I tend to like this idea.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ethe existing template argument syntax offers a number of traps for the unwary (for example, with the characters \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e=\u003c\/tt\u003e, \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e|\u003c\/tt\u003e, etc). As a result, it is difficult to easily move large blocks of text into templates.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn practice, pipe characters outside of templates or wikilink syntax aren't very common unless you're trying to pass whole wiki-tables into the template argument, and issues with equals signs can be entirely eliminated by using a named parameter instead of unnamed.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou missed another very common issue: the limits on template argument size and post-expand include size when you pass very large arguments into templates. Your proposal doesn't seem to address this at all.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"Template argument size" is increased by the size of the corresponding text whenever a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{{1}}}\u003c\/tt\u003e construct is expanded into text. "Post-expand include size" is increased by the size of the corresponding text whenever a template or other double-brace construct is expanded to text. The default for each is \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e$wgMaxArticleSize\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNote that if Template A passes an argument to Template B and both templates' outputs includes the value of the argument, each of these limits is increased by twice the size of the argument (argument size when A passes to B and when B uses it, and post-expand size when B expands in the context of A and when A expands in the original context).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eHygienic arguments\u003c\/strong\u003e provide a new form of template invocation which avoids these issues.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMost languages call these "\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Here_document\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehere documents\u003c\/a\u003e", "here strings", "heredocs", and the like. Can we just call them "here arguments"\/"hereargs" instead of inventing a newspeak name for it?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYour chosen syntax even mirrors the usual practice of using "<<" or "<<<" to indicate the start of the heredoc. Speaking of which, I keep wanting to use "<" as the opener and ">" as the closer, while your syntax is vice versa.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe above example would be written as:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{>Table|class="shiny"}}\n| Hello || world\n{{< Table}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI might suggest ">>" and "<<" just to make them slightly less resembling of HTML tags. Or maybe even\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e<<Foo class="shiny">>\n...\n<<\/Foo>>\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eto make them look more like HTML tags.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe should probably also consider various pathological cases:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{<<foo|parameter 1}}\nalso parameter 1?\n{{>>foo}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'd say that it should work exactly like \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{foo|parameter 1|1=also parameter 1?}}\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{<<foo}}\n{{<<bar}}\n{{>>foo}}\n{{>>bar}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNo idea what might be good here. The PHP parser would likely interpret it as an invocation of {{foo}} with the herearg containing an unclosed herearg for {{bar}}, followed by an unmatched herearg ending marker {{>>bar}}.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{<<foo}}\n{{<<foo}}\n{{>>foo}}\n{{>>foo}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAllowing nesting would be good, but the PHP parser currently doesn't allow for \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<ref><ref><\/ref><\/ref>\u003c\/tt\u003e either and probably would have trouble with this for the same reasons.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{<<foo}}\n<nowiki> (or <pre> or <!--)\n{{>>foo}}\n<\/nowiki> (or <\/pre> or -->)\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn other words, what happens when the closing-tag is hidden inside a non-parsed context? The PHP parser would likely see it as an invocation of {{foo}} with a herearg containing an unclosed \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<nowiki>\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<pre>\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<!--\u003c\/tt\u003e, followed by an unmatched \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<\/nowiki>\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<\/pre>\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e-->\u003c\/tt\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e<ref>\n{{<<foo}}\n<\/ref>\n{{>>foo}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIs this a ref tag containing an unclosed herearg template invocation followed by an unmatched herearg ending marker, or is it an unclosed ref tag containing a herearg template invocation that contains an unmatched <\/ref>? The PHP parser would probably pick the first option, FWIW.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{<<foo}}\n<ref>\n{{>>foo}}\n<\/ref>\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSimilar to the above. Again, the PHP parser would probably pick "Herearg containing an unclosed ref, followed by an unmatched <\/ref>".\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eBut let's say we want to allow more generality.  We could support:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{>Foo|namedArg=bar|anotherNamedArg=bat}}\nThis first block goes in argument "1".\n{{else}}\nNow this goes in argument "2".\n{{else}}\nNow this goes in argument "3".  It's a little more natural if there are\nonly one or two arguments,\nbut we could keep going if we wanted.\n{{<Foo}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLet's not unless we have a real use case for it.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd if we do, you'd probably want something other than \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{else}}\u003c\/tt\u003e. At minimum it should include the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>\u003c\/tt\u003e character somehow; I might suggest \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<>>Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e to more closely resemble the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe might allow \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<}}\u003c\/tt\u003e as a shortcut to end the block argument, instead of requiring the author to repeat the name of the template.  Some folks will like the brevity, others may prefer the more explicit error messages provided when you spell out the name of the template you intend to close.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIMO this would make it too easy to accidentally screw things up when adding or removing nested hereargs.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{>>foo}}\nlorem\n{{>>bar}}\nipsum\ndolor\n{{<<}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDid someone forget to close \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>bar}}\u003c\/tt\u003e, maybe between "ipsum" and "dolor", or did they forget to close \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{>>foo}}\nlorem\nipsum\n{{<<bar}}\ndolor\n{{<<foo}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHere it's clear that someone removed a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>bar}}\u003c\/tt\u003e and forgot to remove the closing marker. With untagged closers, though, you'd be left wondering whether it was supposed to be \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{foo|lorem ipsum}} dolor\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{foo|lorem ipsum dolor}}\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eStrict start-of-line constraints\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nFor ease of parsing (and reading) we can enforce the constraint that the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>...}}\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<...}}\u003c\/tt\u003e tags must be alone on their line, and that the newline following the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>...}}\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<...}}\u003c\/tt\u003e tags is not copied into the output.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePlease! Although I note the opening marker itself might span multiple lines if one of the named arguments passed contains newlines.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBased on enwiki's [[\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Template:Archive_top|\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Template:Archive_top|\u003c\/a\u003e\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{Archive top}}\u003c\/tt\u003e]], for example,\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{>>archive discussion|result=This proposal was not supported.\n* Reason 1\n* Reason 2\n* Reason 3\n~~~~}}\nSome really long discussion\n{{<<archive discussion}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe should also define that the syntax for the closing-marker be something along the lines of that it must match the PCRE regex \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e\/^\\{\\{<<[ \\t]*\\Q$name\\E[ \\t]*\\}\\}[ \\t]*$\/m\u003c\/tt\u003e. No ignored parameters inside the braces, etc.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe might also define that opening \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e must be matched by closing \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e, not \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e (and vice versa) so we don't have to worry about whether \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<FOO}}\u003c\/tt\u003e should also be allowed.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_232\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_230\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_231\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1697064\" id=\"1697064\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_229\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1697064\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_228\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 2 2015, 2:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-02 14:48:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_226\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_227\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#1696009\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#1696009\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/DanielFriesen\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@DanielFriesen\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe parsing of this new curly "template" syntax seems almost functionality equivalent to if we implemented it as a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<template title="Table">...<\/template>\u003c\/tt\u003e tag hook. So I don't like such a strange new syntax when it basically the same as a pattern we already have.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNote that \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<template title="Foo">...<template title="Bar">...<\/template>...<\/template>\u003c\/tt\u003e won't work right, at least until someone rewrites the PHP parser. Which does need to be done, IMO, but I don't see a task for it yet.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_235\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/umy4s7knr5dy54qs45xk\/PHID-FILE-bla7fa3rscezzutmufqm\/alphanumeric_lato-white_L.png-_68681d-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ltrlg\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1698130\" id=\"1698130\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_234\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ltrlg\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003eLtrlg\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1698130\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_233\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 2 2015, 6:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-02 18:48:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_244\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4e6cj54i37wpuhodl37z\/PHID-FILE-sh43reqprk5j4avdwetw\/profile-profile-0965951.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1700026\" id=\"1700026\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_243\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1700026\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_242\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 3 2015, 8:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-03 20:56:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_240\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_241\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCongratulations! This is one of the 52 proposals that made it through the first deadline of the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/wikimedia-developer-summit-2016\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-disabled phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-briefcase\" data-meta=\"0_3\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eWikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e  \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016#Submissions_and_selection_process\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eselection process\u003c\/a\u003e. Please pay attention to the next one:  > By \u003cstrong\u003e6 Nov 2015\u003c\/strong\u003e, all Summit proposals must have active discussions and a Summit plan documented in the description. Proposals not reaching this critical mass can continue at their own path out of the Summit.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_247\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4e6cj54i37wpuhodl37z\/PHID-FILE-sh43reqprk5j4avdwetw\/profile-profile-0965951.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1720039\" id=\"1720039\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_246\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1448\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003eBacklog\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1448\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003eMissing expected fields\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/wikimedia-developer-summit-2016\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003eWikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1720039\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_245\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 12 2015, 9:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-12 21:04:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_257\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1726161\" id=\"1726161\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_256\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1726161\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_255\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 14 2015, 7:53 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-14 19:53:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_253\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_254\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSome notes from discussion at parsing-team offsite:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe syntax \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<foo}} ... {{>>foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e is preferred, due to (a) its similarity to heredoc syntax, and (b) less potential ambiguity with extension tags (eg \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<nowiki>{{<\/nowiki>\u003c\/tt\u003e).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBetter syntax for \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{else}}\u003c\/tt\u003e would be \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{|}}\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>><<}}\u003c\/tt\u003e due to localization issues.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThere is a limit to template argument sizes -- equal to maximum article size (1MB?) -- this might need to be relaxed?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eHeredoc arguments might be counted as the *last* numbered arguments, rather than the first.  Eg if you provide a numbered argument, the first block argument is argument #2.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eNot too thrilled with the TemplateData idea, since it would require loading TemplateData on every template expansion.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eNo particular guidance given on the "strict start of line constraints" proposal.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eMaybe rename the task (something involving 'heredoc' perhaps) to avoid reusing\/abusing the term 'hygenic'.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_266\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1726184\" id=\"1726184\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_265\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1726184\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_264\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 14 2015, 8:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-14 20:04:52 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_262\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_263\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(If during template processing we passed around the intermediate results as a \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rope_(data_structure)\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003erope\u003c\/a\u003e instead of a flat string, we could avoid counting the template argument size multiple times for nested templates.  That would make the template argument length limit a nonissue.)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1726195\" id=\"1726195\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_274\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1726195\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_273\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 14 2015, 8:07 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-14 20:07:40 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_271\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_272\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMaybe rename the task (something involving 'heredoc' perhaps) to avoid reusing\/abusing the term 'hygenic'.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJust call it long argument syntax so average humans get a chance to understand the name :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_278\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgl3wy55ovinfnucvwhx\/PHID-FILE-zocnksypiqutzf5oubpi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/tstarling\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1726217\" id=\"1726217\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_277\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/tstarling\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003etstarling\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003eP1: Define\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003eRequest IRC meeting\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1726217\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_276\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 14 2015, 8:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-14 20:14:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_289\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_287\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_288\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1726629\" id=\"1726629\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_286\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1726629\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_285\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 14 2015, 10:02 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-14 22:02:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_283\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_284\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#1726161\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#1726161\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@cscott\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\" start=\"2\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBetter syntax for \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{else}}\u003c\/tt\u003e would be \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{|}}\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>><<}}\u003c\/tt\u003e due to localization issues.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat would have the same issues that untagged \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>}}\u003c\/tt\u003e as a closing delimiter has, though.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_293\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sxio75lvskgzqg4c2rpg\/PHID-FILE-eke2ppzomhla35r4wckk\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/fbstj\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1737465\" id=\"1737465\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_291\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_292\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/fbstj\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003efbstj\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1737465\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_290\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 20 2015, 8:07 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-20 08:07:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_297\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgl3wy55ovinfnucvwhx\/PHID-FILE-zocnksypiqutzf5oubpi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/tstarling\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1741724\" id=\"1741724\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_295\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/tstarling\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003etstarling\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-4mxu4hmn54fldkm\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1741724\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_294\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 9:51 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 09:51:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_296\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/tstarling\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003etstarling\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-owpvmiiatutpz3y\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_300\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p2jvmcdsbef3436hkcf6\/PHID-FILE-b6vmtimun4dtm56lypjx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1741823\" id=\"1741823\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_299\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003eKrenair\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1741823\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_298\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 11:13 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 11:13:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_303\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1742535\" id=\"1742535\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_302\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1742535\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_301\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 3:12 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 15:12:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_312\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1742563\" id=\"1742563\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_311\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1742563\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_310\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 3:31 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 15:31:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_308\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_309\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@cscott\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs a result, we often have constructs such as:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{tablestart|class="shiny"}}\n| Hello || world\n{{tableend}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe have this often? Where? I'm not sure I've personally seen this construction in the wild. I'm curious how people are doing this, especially since mixing HTML and wikitext markup can be pretty tricky.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI have, however, seen things like...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{tablestart}}\n{{table row|1=foo}}\n{{tableend}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ewhich pose a number of issues:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThere is no mechanism to ensure \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{tablestart}}\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{tableend}}\u003c\/tt\u003e are properly matched\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt feels a little disingenuous to say there's no mechanism... what about this?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{table|1=\n{{table row|1=foo}}\n}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI've used this construction on the English Wikipedia and it works pretty well.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBoth \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{tablestart}}\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{tableend}}\u003c\/tt\u003e emit unbalanced HTML, which complicates work on efficiently updating the parser cache after template changes.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eDue to the tag matching issues, this whole block is uneditable by Visual Editor.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSure.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI guess I'd like to see a stronger case made here against wrapper templates. I'd like to know why wrapper templates are inferior to a whole new syntax that we'll need to support forever and that will be a breaking change for the sites that copy Wikipedia templates to their older installations (not everyone is running 1.27alpha, after all).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI also share this concern from \u003ca href=\"\/p\/DanielFriesen\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@DanielFriesen\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e in \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#1696009\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#1696009\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can imagine people saying:\u003cbr \/\u003e\n[...]\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can understand the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e...\u003c\/tt\u003e in \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{Table|...}}\u003c\/tt\u003e being to \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e1\u003c\/tt\u003e but in \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>Table|b}}a{{<Table}}\u003c\/tt\u003e now it's \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e2\u003c\/tt\u003e and the stuff that comes after the template is \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e1\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn this proposed future world where \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<table}}\u003c\/tt\u003e is implemented and supported, the potential for confusion about what \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e|1=\u003c\/tt\u003e is seems real. From reading this task, it's not totally clear to me what "Template:Table" would look like and how its template parameters and arguments would behave. Additional clarity on this would be good, I think.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_323\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_321\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_322\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1742906\" id=\"1742906\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_320\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1742906\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_319\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 5:27 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 17:27:27 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_317\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_318\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#1742563\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#1742563\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@MZMcBride\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI guess I'd like to see a stronger case made here against wrapper templates.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWrapper templates are good when they work, but\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eIf the text being passed into the wrapper template arg contains pipes, things sometimes break and the workarounds (e.g. \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{!}}\u003c\/tt\u003e) aren't very clear. If you don't use a named arg (e.g. the "1=" in your example), equal signs can break things too.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe syntax when using a wrapper template has the same traps as the proposal here for \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>}}\u003c\/tt\u003e as a closing marker.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThey can easily run into the limits on template argument size and post-expand include size. Although if this can get around those limits then the same workaround could probably be applied to all template arguments.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_326\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/r7nvrzujv4maclta2fe3\/PHID-FILE-boqcwnunlgwjmisceqbw\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/nshahquinn-wmf\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1742981\" id=\"1742981\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_325\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/nshahquinn-wmf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003enshahquinn-wmf\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1742981\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_324\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 5:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 17:47:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1743879\" id=\"1743879\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_328\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e[RFC] Hygienic arguments for templates\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e[RFC] Heredoc arguments for templates (aka "hygenic" or "long" arguments)\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1743879\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_327\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 8:58 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 20:58:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_329\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-mn2qtkygqq2oahy\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_330\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-mlzlo6dteboezlz\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_334\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1743889\" id=\"1743889\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_333\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/E80\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003eE80: RFC Meeting (Heredoc arguments for templates)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1743889\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_332\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 9:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 21:01:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_343\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1743981\" id=\"1743981\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_342\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/tstarling\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003etstarling\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1743981\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_341\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 9:37 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 21:37:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_339\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_340\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSome interesting use cases, dug up by \u003ca href=\"\/p\/tstarling\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@tstarling\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eTimStarling: here is a navbox implementation: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Template:Cities_of_Australia&action=edit\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Template:Cities_of_Australia&action=edit\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ecscott: that might actually work relatively nicely with this new syntax:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{<<Navbox|name=....|label=...}}\nAustralian Capital Territory\n{{|}}\n ...list1...\n{{|}}\nNew South Wales\n{{|}}\n... list 2 ...\n{{>>Navbox}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eTimStarling: here is an example of begin\/end templates which are a simpler match to this syntax: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=American_Civil_War&action=edit&section=47\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=American_Civil_War&action=edit&section=47\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nTimStarling: here's another use of col-begin that is pretty integral to the article text: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Lord%27s_Prayer&action=edit\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Lord%27s_Prayer&action=edit\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nTimStarling: it is side-by-side analysis of versions of a text\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou might need to eventually give hints to VisualEditor via TemplateData to allow in-place editing of some of these templates, but currently the text is not editable at all, and with heredoc templates it would be editable in the template arguments.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_353\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/k5q3d2m3ejyx7cobtbbl\/PHID-FILE-4rln7zwcyy6tvhyo2na3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1744278\" id=\"1744278\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_352\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1744278\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_351\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 21 2015, 11:09 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-21 23:09:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_349\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_350\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eYou might need to eventually give hints to VisualEditor via TemplateData to allow in-place editing of some of these templates, but currently the text is not editable at all, and with heredoc templates it would be editable in the template arguments.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eActivating an embedded VE for individual template parameters seems to be possible for any template parameter, and does not seem to be specific to the proposed syntax.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eArguably, a nicer user experience would be to actually allow users to edit the content in the normal page flow, without entering a template dialog. This requires information about how and where the template parameter is used in the template expansion. This is not an easy problem to solve in general.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe inline editing use case might be easier addressed with widgets based on existing tag extension syntax. As a side effect, such tag extensions might also offer better control over rendering in different device \/ use case contexts. Strawman syntax for the multi-column use case:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e<multi-column>\n  <col>\n    ... list ....\n  <\/col><col>\n    .... list ..\n  <\/col>\n<\/multi-column>\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_362\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1744606\" id=\"1744606\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_361\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1744606\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_360\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 22 2015, 12:57 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-22 00:57:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_358\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_359\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#1697042\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#1697042\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe might also define that opening \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e must be matched by closing \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e, not \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e (and vice versa) so we don't have to worry about whether \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<FOO}}\u003c\/tt\u003e should also be allowed.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe should follow standard MediaWiki page title normalization rules, in my opinion. That is, "Foo_bar" is equivalent to "foo_bar" by default, but "Foo bar" and "Foo BAR" are distinct. On wikis where \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e$wgCapitalLinks\u003c\/tt\u003e is set to false, we would be more strict with regard to capitalization.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI wasn't able to attend the IRC meeting, but I'm personally still not sold on the idea of introducing new syntax here.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_365\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4e6cj54i37wpuhodl37z\/PHID-FILE-sh43reqprk5j4avdwetw\/profile-profile-0965951.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1744939\" id=\"1744939\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_364\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1448\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003eMissing expected fields\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1448\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003eOn track\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/wikimedia-developer-summit-2016\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003eWikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1744939\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_363\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 22 2015, 8:39 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-22 08:39:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_368\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c4yjpwbiqsarusgvwfxz\/PHID-FILE-4wz6mvwzfmg24ybcvlff\/profile-hakase.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mgrabovsky\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1750717\" id=\"1750717\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_367\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mgrabovsky\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003emgrabovsky\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1750717\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_366\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 24 2015, 5:10 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-24 17:10:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_371\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/fcowa27wwfxm5zk5iixy\/PHID-FILE-3fp2dfqq46vahcqko6us\/profile-spage_silverado_cliff_96x96.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Spage\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1763280\" id=\"1763280\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_370\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Spage\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Spage\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003eRequest IRC meeting\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003eOld\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1763280\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_369\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 28 2015, 8:28 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-28 20:28:25 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_380\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/fcowa27wwfxm5zk5iixy\/PHID-FILE-3fp2dfqq46vahcqko6us\/profile-spage_silverado_cliff_96x96.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Spage\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1767837\" id=\"1767837\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_379\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Spage\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Spage\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1767837\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_378\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 30 2015, 2:20 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-10-30 02:20:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_376\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_377\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe held an RFC office hour meeting about this on 2015-10-21, \u003ca href=\"\/E80\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eE80: RFC Meeting (Heredoc arguments for templates)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, see \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/meetbot\/wikimedia-office\/2015\/wikimedia-office.2015-10-21-21.01.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003esummary\u003c\/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/meetbot\/wikimedia-office\/2015\/wikimedia-office.2015-10-21-21.01.log.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003efull log\u003c\/a\u003e. There's overlap with other proposals for modules or widgets referencing structured data. No consensus reached.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_383\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1799978\" id=\"1799978\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_382\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-wtiwxhvycm5o4bs\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1799978\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_381\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 11 2015, 10:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-11-11 22:13:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1799979\" id=\"1799979\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_98\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/StudiesWorld\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003eStudiesWorld\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/1049919\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1799979\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 11 2015, 10:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-11-11 22:13:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_389\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1799987\" id=\"1799987\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_388\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-wnq555frosblrp6\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1799987\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_387\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 11 2015, 10:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-11-11 22:14:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_392\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1815760\" id=\"1815760\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_391\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T119022\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003eT119022: WikiDev 16 working area: Content format\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1815760\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_390\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 19 2015, 12:30 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-11-19 00:30:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv 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It would encourage this type of syntax, when we want to see less of it.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{<<Foo|namedArg=bar|anotherNamedArg=bat}}\nThis first block goes in argument "1".\n{{|}}\nNow this goes in argument "2".\n{{|}}\nNow this goes in argument "3".  It's a little more natural if there are only one or two arguments,\nbut we could keep going if we wanted.\n{{>>Foo}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMatching \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{<<Foo\u003c\/tt\u003e to \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{>>Foo}}\u003c\/tt\u003e is not a simple parsing construct.  Most parser libraries don't have support for that.  If the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eFoo\u003c\/tt\u003e is optional, there is even more pain in trying to build a language parser that efficiently and correctly collects nested templates.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eInstead of adding a lot of complexity by adding a new different type of argument, and new syntax for start and end of the combined templates, we can have long arguments like shown in \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#1742563\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#1742563\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e and provide a simple enhancement to block quote the long argument.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ei.e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{Table|1=<<<\n| Hello || world\n<<<}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eand for multiple\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{Table|class="shiny"|<<<\n| Hello || world\n<<<|<<<\nFoo bar\n<<<}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ebut named argument should also have this capability\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{archive discussion|reason=<<<\nblah with = and | and ~~~~\n<<<|body=<<<\n... long discussion ...\n<<<}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eand nesting should work\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{archive discussion|reason=<<<\nblah with = and | and ~~~~ parsed like normal wikitext\n<<<|body=<<<\n... long discussion ...\nincluding\n\n{{something|with=<<<\nanother blurb.\n<<<}}\n\n<<<}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs an aside, I think it would be wise for all wikitext language proposals to include a formal grammar and a reference parser that is circulated for comment before they are actually approved for implementation.  We need to avoid adding to the problems of the past, and ensure any new syntax has good grammar design.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_427\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4e6cj54i37wpuhodl37z\/PHID-FILE-sh43reqprk5j4avdwetw\/profile-profile-0965951.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2018604\" id=\"2018604\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_426\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e unsubscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2018604\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_425\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2016, 2:29 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-02-11 14:29:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_430\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2158974\" id=\"2158974\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_429\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/parsing-team--archived\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003eParsing-Team--ARCHIVED\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2158974\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_428\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 29 2016, 9:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-29 21:15:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_439\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2159230\" id=\"2159230\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_438\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2159230\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_437\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 29 2016, 10:18 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-29 22:18:49 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_435\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_436\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jayvdb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@jayvdb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e Unfortunately, there is no formal grammar for wikitext.  However, there are two reference implementations, one in PHP and one in JavaScript.  The JavaScript implementation actually provides an interface very similar to mwparserfromhell (see \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/doc.wikimedia.org\/Parsoid\/master\/#!\/guide\/jsapi\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/doc.wikimedia.org\/Parsoid\/master\/#!\/guide\/jsapi\u003c\/a\u003e ) and handles wikitext syntax much more accurately than mwparserfromhell does.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't think your statement, "Matching {{<<Foo to {{>>Foo}} is not a simple parsing construct." is true.  But yes, it would be helpful to get implementations of this construct for PHP, JavaScript, and mwparserfromhell to evaluate.  The RfC process is very useful to gain consensus around basic parameters *before* we start writing code -- but sometimes we learn new things when we write the implementation, and that can feed back into the discussion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_442\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/erkgf6d4vpackpqxomwv\/PHID-FILE-5tb2ea4z6ng4zee5f5qd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Danny_B\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2257998\" id=\"2257998\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_441\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Danny_B\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003eDanny_B\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/proposal\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003eProposal\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2257998\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_440\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 2 2016, 10:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-05-02 22:16:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_445\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2265339\" id=\"2265339\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_444\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003eUnknown Object (Event)\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2265339\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_443\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 4 2016, 7:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-05-04 19:33:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_448\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2325519\" id=\"2325519\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_447\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/E187\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003eE187: RFC Meeting: triage meeting (2016-05-25, #wikimedia-office)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2325519\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_446\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 25 2016, 7:03 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-05-25 07:03:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_458\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2365458\" id=\"2365458\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-right phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_456\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e triaged this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eLow\u003c\/span\u003e priority.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2365458\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_455\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 8 2016, 7:08 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-06-08 19:08:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_457\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_453\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_454\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eBelated priority update discussed in \u003ca href=\"\/E187\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eE187: RFC Meeting: triage meeting (2016-05-25, #wikimedia-office)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e (see log at \u003ca href=\"\/P3179\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eP3179\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_461\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2761107\" id=\"2761107\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_460\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T149667\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003eT149667: Build an article annotation service\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2761107\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_459\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 1 2016, 7:54 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-11-01 19:54:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_464\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/nzpr4humrqpa6og3mqka\/PHID-FILE-kmiiyu36mbadfjzno45r\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Arlolra\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2816839\" id=\"2816839\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_463\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Arlolra\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003eArlolra\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2816839\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_462\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 23 2016, 1:29 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-11-23 01:29:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_474\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3096864\" id=\"3096864\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_473\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003eAlsee\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3096864\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_472\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 13 2017, 10:08 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-03-13 22:08:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_470\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_471\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jayvdb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@jayvdb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e's suggestion looks like the best concepts here. I'd suggest a tweak:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{archive discussion|result=<<<blah blah that can include = and | without trouble>>>|<<<\n...long discussion, which can include...\n{{something|with=<<<another blurb.>>>}}\n>>>}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI just flipped the closing >>>, and wrote it more like I'd expect to use the archive template .\u003cbr \/\u003e\nOptional use of <<< >>> is a simple and nice addition to wikitext, and if the template is set up like this it seems to give you almost everything wanted here. I think you only "lose" one thing, but it's not really losing anything. The plan is to continue to allow normal templates to be used, alongside balanced templates. Balanced templates can be detected opportunistically (or indicated within the template). The only thing I see "missing" here is that we don't confuse new users with complicated new syntax, where they are expected to mysteriously and \u003cstrong\u003erandomly\u003c\/strong\u003e write one syntax or the other to call a template. The most important criteria is to avoid making Wikis complicated and confusing for new users. The only thing people need to learn is that <<< >>> can be used any time, and it avoids problems when | or = happens to show up. That's a simple general concept.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_477\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3431058\" id=\"3431058\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_476\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T30980\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_135\"\u003eT30980: parser tags such as <ref>, <poem>, <timeline> etc. cannot be localized\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3431058\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_475\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 12 2017, 3:49 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-07-12 15:49:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_480\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3619595\" id=\"3619595\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_479\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T176272\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_137\"\u003eT176272: Decide on what to recommend for table style usecase\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3619595\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_478\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eSep 19 2017, 9:53 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-09-19 21:53:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_483\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3697909\" id=\"3697909\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_482\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-u6axcdzsdswsxzk\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3697909\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_481\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 19 2017, 7:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-19 19:55:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_487\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3697948\" id=\"3697948\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_485\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_139\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-utdo3bwrim35bcp\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3697948\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_484\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 19 2017, 8:22 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-19 20:22:44 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_486\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-b3yodhh3erqv6v3\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_490\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3697951\" id=\"3697951\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_489\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_141\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-mnlehtxizegj5jd\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3697951\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_488\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 19 2017, 8:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-19 20:25:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_493\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3697952\" id=\"3697952\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_492\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_143\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/jeblad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_144\"\u003ejeblad\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/2071331\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3697952\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_491\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 19 2017, 8:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-19 20:25:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_496\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3698163\" id=\"3698163\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_495\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_145\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-gksd7de77htwgdn\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3698163\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_494\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 19 2017, 9:36 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-19 21:36:05 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_505\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3698183\" id=\"3698183\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_504\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_146\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3698183\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_503\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 19 2017, 9:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-19 21:38:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_501\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_502\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eDiscussed this at Parsing team offsite.  We decided to adopt \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Alsee\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e's proposal with a few tweaks; I've updated the task summary to reflect this.  Further comments\/critiques welcome!\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_508\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c4yjpwbiqsarusgvwfxz\/PHID-FILE-4wz6mvwzfmg24ybcvlff\/profile-hakase.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mgrabovsky\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3698373\" id=\"3698373\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_507\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mgrabovsky\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_148\"\u003emgrabovsky\u003c\/a\u003e unsubscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3698373\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_506\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 19 2017, 10:28 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-19 22:28:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_511\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jiescibb2tfpadg6tyrc\/PHID-FILE-bw6rufgv4lqimr5crhxq\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3699103\" id=\"3699103\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_510\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_149\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Elitre\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e[RFC] Heredoc arguments for templates (aka "hygenic" or "long" arguments)\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e[RFC] Heredoc arguments for templates (aka "hygienic" or "long" arguments)\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3699103\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_509\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 20 2017, 10:15 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-20 10:15:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_514\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jiescibb2tfpadg6tyrc\/PHID-FILE-bw6rufgv4lqimr5crhxq\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3699106\" id=\"3699106\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_513\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Elitre\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-nmeipk4qdueocer\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3699106\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_512\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 20 2017, 10:17 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-20 10:17:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_525\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_523\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_524\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3699712\" id=\"3699712\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_522\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3699712\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_521\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 20 2017, 2:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-20 14:38:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_519\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_520\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_152\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eEdge cases that come to mind:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{foo |<<<span>>>| is "span", you need |<<<<span>>>>| for "<span>". It may prove easy to lose an angle-bracket.}}\n\n{{foo |<<<You know someone's going to do >>> this at some point accidentally. What happens?}}\n\n{{foo | <<<What about spaces before or after quoting-syntax in a positional parameter?>>> }}\n\n{{foo | bar = <<<Or a named parameter?>>> }}\n\n{{foo |\n<<<Newlines too are often seen before or after the value in a positional parameter. Someone might try to format it like this.>>>\n}}\n\n{{foo | bar =\n<<<And the same for a named parameter.>>>\n}}\n\n{{foo\n|<<<Especially with vertical layout of multiple parameters, even if otherwise done correctly,>>>\n|bar=<<<for both positional and named parameters.>>>\n|<<<Sometimes a parameter even has multiple newlines after>>>\n\n|<<<and\/or comments that are intended for the following parameter>>>\n\n<!-- (like this). -->\n|<<<You can get both newlines and spaces if>>>\n |<<< the next parameter is supposed to be indented or>>>\n|<<<someone doesn't trim line-ending whitespace.>>>      \n|<<<And note there may be a newline at the end too, not just when another parameter follows.>>>\n}}\n\n{{foo|<<<\nIf there's some long-running text, and someone happens to type a "<<<" inside, does that screw up the matching of the closing quote-syntax?\n>>>}}\n\n{{foo|<<<\nAnd what happens if someone {{screws|<<<up>>}} a template invocation?\n>>>|<<<\nAnd what happens if someone {{screws|<<up>>>}} a template invocation?\n>>>}}\n\n{{foo|<<< Don't forget to test with comments <!-- like this: >>> -->! >>>}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not saying what the correct behavior should be in any of these cases, just pointing them out as cases where behavior might be surprising.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_534\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3700230\" id=\"3700230\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_533\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003eAlsee\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3700230\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_532\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 20 2017, 5:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-20 17:48:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_530\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_531\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI believe the proper behavior (meaning the easiest to understand and most expected behavior) is to just protect the wrapped content then behave as if the <<< and >>> don't exist. This does a good job of covering most of the listed edge cases. For example:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{foo |<<<You know someone's going to do >>> this at some point accidentally. What happens?}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ewould be identical to\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{foo |You know someone's going to do  this at some point accidentally. What happens?}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eInteresting detail: Notice that this example put two spaces between "do" and "this".\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eP.S. The new task description appears to ask whether multi-line list items are interesting. The answer is yes, mostly on talk pages. My first impression is that it feels odd to use <<< >>> for multi-line list items, but it might be preferable to the  awkward <br> method I sometimes use.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_543\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/z67mikd4lwdetm774u5v\/PHID-FILE-wzypambajaxwezctdezx\/profile-livejournal.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3707792\" id=\"3707792\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_542\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_155\"\u003ecscott\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3707792\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_541\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 24 2017, 6:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-24 18:55:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_539\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_540\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe question of what to do about \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>\u003c\/tt\u003e that isn't immediately preceding \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e|\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e}}\u003c\/tt\u003e is an interesting one.  From the discussion we had at the offsite, I believe that although we want to think through how we might eventually support something like \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Alsee\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e's suggestion above (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<<<\u003c\/tt\u003e ... \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>\u003c\/tt\u003e as a generic quoting construct), we'd prefer to be conservative in the first implementation: the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<<<\u003c\/tt\u003e will be treated literally (ie, not as a quote character) unless it's inside a template and immediately follows a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e|\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e=\u003c\/tt\u003e with no whitespace *and* the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>\u003c\/tt\u003e is immediately followed by a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e|\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e}}\u003c\/tt\u003e.  That will let us get some experience with the new construct with the tightest possible syntax, and then we can later loosen things up to allow whitespace & allow it to be used outside template arguments, if\/when we've got a better idea what we want the behavior there to be (whitespace stripping, etc).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{foo|<<< Don't forget to test with comments <!-- like this: >>> -->! >>>}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEmbedded comments are interesting.  I think the most consistent thing to do is to protect them, ie the example above is invalid (argument closes at the first \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>\u003c\/tt\u003e) while\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{echo|bar=<<< no <!-- comment stripping>>>}}\u003c\/tt\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n is valid (properly closed).  Otherwise we'd have to invent some new special escape syntax in case we really did want to embed the literal characters \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<!--\u003c\/tt\u003e in an argument, and the whole point of this syntax is that you should be able to surround literally anything with no additional escaping needed (although sometimes you need to quote using a numeric tag, of course).  (When it comes time to implement this, I might regret this statement, since I believe comment stripping in the PHP parser happens quite early.)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{foo|<<<\nIf there's some long-running text, and someone happens to type a "<<<" inside, does that screw up the matching of the closing quote-syntax?\n>>>}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnother interesting case.  I'd expect that you'd need to use the tagged quote syntax for this to work, ie:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{foo|1<<<\nIf there's some long-running text, and someone happens to type a "<<<" inside, does that screw up the matching of the closing quote-syntax?\n>>>1}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eProbably this can be handled with priority: a matching tagged close-quote (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>N\u003c\/tt\u003e where \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eN\u003c\/tt\u003e matches something currently open) should take priority over any other open quotes and implicitly close them all, while a normal close-quote (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>\u003c\/tt\u003e) would just close the topmost untagged open quote (if there is one).  That should allow us to attain our goal of quoting *anything* with no additional escapes needed, although sometimes you have to choose an unused \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eN\u003c\/tt\u003e and use the tagged quote syntax to make that work.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis isn't fool-proof for human editors, but the mistake should be very visible (a broken argument).  VE or the improved wikitext editor could recognize this case and assign an appropriate numeric tag automatically. (Just keep incrementing N until neither of the strings \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eN<<<\u003c\/tt\u003e or \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>N\u003c\/tt\u003e appear in the text you want to quote.)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd note that in the initial implementation the special \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<<<\u003c\/tt\u003e...\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>\u003c\/tt\u003e quotes would only work in template arguments, not alone in text, so in order to break quoting this example would have to be:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{{foo|<<<\nIf there's some long-running text, and someone happens to type a {{echo|<<< inside, does that screw up the matching of the closing quote-syntax?\n>>>}}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm perfectly comfortable with requiring a numeric tag on the outer \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{foo\u003c\/tt\u003e template if you really wanted to pass a template fragment as an argument.  Thinking through the fully-general case is worthwhile if we eventually expect \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<<<\u003c\/tt\u003e...\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e>>>\u003c\/tt\u003e to become a general quoting construct outside template arguments... although I'm not 100% sure we do want that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_546\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/r7nvrzujv4maclta2fe3\/PHID-FILE-boqcwnunlgwjmisceqbw\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/nshahquinn-wmf\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3707802\" id=\"3707802\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_545\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/nshahquinn-wmf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_157\"\u003enshahquinn-wmf\u003c\/a\u003e unsubscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3707802\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_544\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 24 2017, 6:58 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-24 18:58:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_557\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_555\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_556\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3708274\" id=\"3708274\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_554\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_158\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3708274\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_553\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 24 2017, 9:21 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-24 21:21:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_551\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_552\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#3707792\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#3707792\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@cscott\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eand the whole point of this syntax is that you should be able to surround literally anything with no additional escaping needed\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDoesn't that statement conflict with allowing expansion of templates inside a quoted-argument?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_566\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/js5lgcqceoin4y6lhzj2\/PHID-FILE-hzs2c7z2sh7xv77co2ty\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_S.png-_694e79-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3714016\" id=\"3714016\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_565\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_161\"\u003essastry\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3714016\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_564\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 26 2017, 11:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-26 23:24:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_562\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_563\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIndependent of the edge-case discussion going on, given that effectively '<<<' and '>>>' is a quoting construct, we could potentially bikeshed on the specific syntactic choice. Other choices could be that we talked about:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e%ESC .... ESC% or ESC% ... %ESC where ESC can be any arbitrary string that is chosen at the use-site. Of course, the % could be < or << or <<< or some other substring that is pre-determined as part of the implementation. We arrived at <<< since we figured it lets editors use the default without needing to use custom ESC strings and also makes the syntax less confusing by eliminating arbitrary variations.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eClearly, it has to be something that won't be commonly encountered in wikis and hence won't need to be escaped when we introduce this new syntax.  It also needs to be RTL-friendly. The choice of a custom escape string (in the standard heredoc form) would let editors get around some of the pesky edge cases with escaping which Scott also considered above with N<<<.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo, if anyone wants to bikeshed on the syntactic choice, have at it. When it comes time to implement \/ prototype this, we'll pick the best option.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_575\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3714170\" id=\"3714170\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_574\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3714170\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_573\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 27 2017, 3:32 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-27 03:32:52 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_571\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_572\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#3707792\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#3707792\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@cscott\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOtherwise we'd have to invent some new special escape syntax in case we really did want to embed the literal characters <!-- in an argument\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou need special syntax to use \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<!--\u003c\/tt\u003e in wikitext anyway, otherwise you risk major breakage if someone adds \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e-->\u003c\/tt\u003e in same other part of the document later. That special syntax is pretty straightforward: just us \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<!--\u003c\/tt\u003e (unless you want to insert an actual wiki comment in multiple parts, which is heavily Dont Do That Then territory).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_578\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ymu4calf2n64uyu7kdkh\/PHID-FILE-dxuexmjbc56zae6qj4or\/profile-avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/FreedomFighterSparrow\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3714268\" id=\"3714268\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_577\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/FreedomFighterSparrow\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_164\"\u003eFreedomFighterSparrow\u003c\/a\u003e unsubscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3714268\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_576\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 27 2017, 4:52 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-27 04:52:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_581\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/we4zgdzwslz3xt5z2l65\/PHID-FILE-dsbawu5kzuffjgi4th4h\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cicalese\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3718146\" id=\"3718146\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_580\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cicalese\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003ecicalese\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3718146\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_579\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 29 2017, 12:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-29 12:14:26 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_590\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3725972\" id=\"3725972\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_589\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Alsee\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_166\"\u003eAlsee\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3725972\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_588\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 1 2017, 11:02 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-11-01 11:02:04 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_586\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_587\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T114432#3707792\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT114432#3707792\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cscott\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@cscott\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003einside a template and immediately follows a | or = with no whitespace *and* the >>> is immediately followed by a | or }}\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEven if you want to be conservative in the initial version, template arguments \u003cstrong\u003eneed\u003c\/strong\u003e to accept surrounding whitespace. If you don't, people will be very confused why it's broken. There's a strong expectation that we can uses spaces and newlines to format template parameters. A parameter may be surrounded by spaces, and parameters are often split on individual lines.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_593\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3855750\" id=\"3855750\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_592\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e removed a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/proposal\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003eProposal\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3855750\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_591\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 21 2017, 11:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-12-21 23:38:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_596\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vsuuvi4sdwvjp37eht7x\/PHID-FILE-y5si7dpz5y6hxkofhz72\/profile-meu_avatar_quadrado.PNG)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/He7d3r\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3863342\" id=\"3863342\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_595\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/He7d3r\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_170\"\u003eHe7d3r\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3863342\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_594\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 29 2017, 11:49 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-12-29 11:49:49 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_599\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/nzpr4humrqpa6og3mqka\/PHID-FILE-kmiiyu36mbadfjzno45r\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Arlolra\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3887524\" id=\"3887524\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_598\" 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