for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/tniasmrxjnwpefcxfpiy\/PHID-FILE-ctcb3luu4sewou7hdwlp\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5851638\" id=\"5851638\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_18\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003edcausse\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5851638\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 5 2020, 10:32 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-05 10:32:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5851649\" id=\"5851649\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_21\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_6\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/3509557\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5851649\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 5 2020, 10:32 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-05 10:32:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/l2cg2zimvt2uq6xna6zg\/PHID-FILE-it2g7whiwxxkzdfzans5\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_32\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5852014\" id=\"5852014\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_30\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003eLucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5852014\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 5 2020, 1:26 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-05 13:26:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_28\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnd\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"sparql\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eSELECT\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eWHERE\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e{\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP106\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?o\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e}\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWould now mean: \u003cem\u003eAll entities with a known occupation\u003c\/em\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAs opposed to \u003cem\u003eAll entities with a known or unkown occupation\u003c\/em\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwhich should be written as:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"sparql\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eSELECT\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eWHERE\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e{\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e{\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP106\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?o\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e}\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eunion\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e{\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003ea\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdunk\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP106\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e}\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e}\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI \u003cstrong\u003estrongly oppose\u003c\/strong\u003e this part. I wasn\u2019t around when the Wikibase RDF model was designed, so I can\u2019t say whether this was an intentional feature or a happy design accident (though I suspect it\u2019s intentional), but the fact that \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e?subject wdt:P570 ?died\u003c\/tt\u003e matches both known and unknown values (but not missing values) is a \u003cem\u003every useful feature\u003c\/em\u003e, and one that many of my own queries (and, I suspect, others\u2019 as well) rely on for correctness.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf the problem is just the blank nodes themselves, why not use this new \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003ewdunk:P2\u003c\/tt\u003e in the same way, as in \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003ewd:Q3 wdt:P2 wdunk:P2\u003c\/tt\u003e? That\u2019s still worse than the blank nodes (multiple \u201cunknown value\u201d statements collapse into one triple, just as is currently the case for \u201cno value\u201d statements), but at least it shouldn\u2019t break as many queries.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/tniasmrxjnwpefcxfpiy\/PHID-FILE-ctcb3luu4sewou7hdwlp\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_43\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5852438\" id=\"5852438\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_41\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003edcausse\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5852438\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 5 2020, 3:22 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-05 15:22:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_39\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T244341#5852014\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT244341#5852014\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf the problem is just the blank nodes themselves, why not use this new \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003ewdunk:P2\u003c\/tt\u003e in the same way, as in \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003ewd:Q3 wdt:P2 wdunk:P2\u003c\/tt\u003e? That\u2019s still worse than the blank nodes (multiple \u201cunknown value\u201d statements collapse into one triple, just as is currently the case for \u201cno value\u201d statements), but at least it shouldn\u2019t break as many queries.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYes the problem are the blank nodes themselves as there are no ways to mutate the graph without querying it.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI'm OK with your suggestion but this makes two unrelated unknown values equal.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWould something like\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"Turtle\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewd:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eQ2\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdt:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP2\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdunk:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eQ2-6657d0b5-4aa4-b465-12ed-d1b8a04ef658\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ebe acceptable?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis would be very similar to the previous approach using blank nodes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNo different unknown values could be collapsed, the drawback is that to extract unknown values one would have to rely on a uri prefix filter using \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eSTRSTARTS\u003c\/tt\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"sparql\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eSELECT\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eWHERE\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e{\u003c\/span\u003e\n\t\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP106\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?o\u003c\/span\u003e\n\t\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eFILTER\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nf\"\u003eisBLANK\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e(\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?o\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e)\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e}\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ewould become\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"sparql\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003ePREFIX\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdunk\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nl\"\u003e<http:\/\/www.wikidata.org\/prop\/unknown\/>\u003c\/span\u003e \n\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eSELECT\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eWHERE\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e{\u003c\/span\u003e\n\t\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP106\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?o\u003c\/span\u003e\n\t\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eFILTER\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nf\"\u003eSTRSTARTS\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e(\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nf\"\u003eSTR\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e(\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?o\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e),\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"s\"\u003e'http:\/\/www.wikidata.org\/prop\/unknown\/'\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e)\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e}\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAny other suggestions?\u003cbr \/\u003e\nIdeally I'd like to find a structure that does no require having to run filters.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/l2cg2zimvt2uq6xna6zg\/PHID-FILE-it2g7whiwxxkzdfzans5\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_54\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5853126\" id=\"5853126\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_52\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003eLucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5853126\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 5 2020, 6:26 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-05 18:26:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_50\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eYeah, I also thought of encoding the statement ID in it, but the STRSTARTS is a bit ugly. Also, this doesn\u2019t provide an obvious path for unknown values used in qualifiers and references\u2026 what could those use? (I assume the main requirement for the updater is that, whatever these IDs look like, they should remain stable between RDF exports of different revisions?)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor the STRSTARTS, we could of course throw more triples at the wall to solve the problem \u2013\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"turtle\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewd:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eQ2\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdt:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP2\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdunk:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eQ2-6657d0b5-4aa4-b465-12ed-d1b8a04ef658\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdunk:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eQ2-6657d0b5-4aa4-b465-12ed-d1b8a04ef658\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"kt\"\u003ea\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewikibase:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eUnknownValue\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"w\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u2013 but that seems wasteful, and there might also be queries relying on the fact that the current \u201cunknown value\u201d blank nodes have no outgoing triples (not sure). Perhaps we could hide the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eSTRSTARTS()\u003c\/tt\u003e in a function? That could improve readability a lot:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"sparql\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?human\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewdt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eP106\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?occupation\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class=\"k\"\u003eFILTER\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e(\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nn\"\u003ewikibase\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nt\"\u003eisUnknownValue\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e(\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"nv\"\u003e?occupation\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"p\"\u003e))\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI\u2019m not sure how well that would perform, though. (Currently, I believe we only have one custom function: \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003ewikibase:decodeUri\u003c\/tt\u003e, introduced in \u003ca href=\"\/T168923\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT168923: Add urldecode function\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/tniasmrxjnwpefcxfpiy\/PHID-FILE-ctcb3luu4sewou7hdwlp\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_65\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5856789\" id=\"5856789\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_63\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003edcausse\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5856789\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 6 2020, 4:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-06 16:47:44 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_61\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eYes the issue with blank nodes is that they are not "reference-able" and thus point delete queries are impossible which is what we want to achieve with the next gen updater.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI did some tests and isBlank is a lot faster (I suppose because this information is inlined as opposed to the IRI that has to be fetched from its dictionary). So materializing the unknown value with the statement identifier we risk to encounter timeouts more frequently.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo unless we have a third alternative we have two choices:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003euse a constant value: probably very fast but we now say: all unknown values are equal.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003euse the statement identifier: very close to the previous semantic but a lot slower\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think I prefer the first approach you suggested, dealing with perf issues seems more annoying than a less precise graph.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThe usecases that I can think of that could be affected are:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003equeries based on equality: find entities which share the same value. Such queries will have to filter out explicitly the "unknown value"\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003equeries based on the number of unknown values on a particular property? Examples would help here I think.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eother usecases?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/tniasmrxjnwpefcxfpiy\/PHID-FILE-ctcb3luu4sewou7hdwlp\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5859600\" id=\"5859600\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_68\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dcausse\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003edcausse\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-gooyncckjywpckw\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5859600\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 7 2020, 1:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-02-07 13:55:22 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