for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2955370\" id=\"2955370\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_233\" 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style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2955381\" id=\"2955381\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_236\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_100\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/1668832\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2955381\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_235\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 20 2017, 8:32 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-20 08:32:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_248\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_246\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_247\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2956646\" id=\"2956646\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_245\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2956646\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_244\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 20 2017, 8:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-20 20:11:04 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_242\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_243\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e1A could work in two different ways: it could mean that parsing the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e tag directly causes styles in the output, or that the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e tag works something like TemplateData in setting data when the template itself is saved and then that saved data is used when the template is transcluded. I'll call these "1A(direct)" and "1A(save)", respectively.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSome more consideration of pros and cons.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(direct) + 2A\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Atomic changes.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Will work with stuff like TemplateSandbox that messes with transclusion.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eMixed: Will be usable with \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#tag\u003c\/tt\u003e, Scribunto, ParserFunctions, and so on, allowing people to do all sorts of crazy stuff.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: More clutter in the wikitext.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: The wikitext editor is unlikely to have CSS syntax highlighting and other helpful features.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Anything that uses \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#tag\u003c\/tt\u003e, Scribunto, ParserFunctions, and so on to control the output styles is going to be very hard to switch to MCR someday.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(save)\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Atomic changes.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: The set of stylesheets to include is determined by the list of templates transcluded.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eMixed: Will be usable with \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#tag\u003c\/tt\u003e and ParserFunctions, and maybe Scribunto, allowing people to still do many sorts of crazy stuff.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: More clutter in the wikitext.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: The wikitext editor is unlikely to have CSS syntax highlighting and other helpful features.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Anything that uses \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#tag\u003c\/tt\u003e, Scribunto, ParserFunctions, and so on to control the output styles is going to be very hard to switch to MCR someday.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Making it work with TemplateSandbox and the like may be tricky.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Would probably need additional logic in Parsoid.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1B\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: We can use a specialized CSS editor.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro(?): It's possible to protect the template and styles individually, at least until MCR happens.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: The set of stylesheets to include is determined by the list of templates transcluded.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: No atomic changes until MCR happens.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Doesn't work well with the "Preview page with this template" part of TemplateSandbox, at least until switched to MCR.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: It's \u003cem\u003erequired\u003c\/em\u003e to protect the template and styles individually, at least until MCR happens. Unless an edit to the template itself is somehow required to turn it on, we'll need to come up with something to prevent someone from creating disruptive CSS for existing protected templates (e.g. \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e* { display: none !important; }\u003c\/tt\u003e).\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eOne idea: Have \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles\/>\u003c\/tt\u003e in the template itself (but not when transcluded) set a page prop indicating that a stylesheet subpage is supposed to be present. That way turning it on requires an edit to the presumably-protected template first. But people would still have to remember to protect the style subpage when protecting an existing template with styles.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eAnother idea: Use a hook like 'getUserPermissionsErrors' to require being able to edit the template page in order to edit the style page.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: We may need to figure out how to turn it on for individual non-Template-namespace pages. The \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles\/>\u003c\/tt\u003e idea above would work for that too.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Would probably need additional logic in Parsoid.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e3A\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Will work in Parsoid.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: No deuplication.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e3B\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Deduplication.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Will probably not work in Parsoid without extra logic.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e3C\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Deduplication.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Could work with Parsoid, if each \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e results in a distinct \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e->addModuleStyles()\u003c\/tt\u003e call. 1A(direct) is easy, see below for other combinations that could work.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Code is going to be more complex in most cases.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1B + 3C\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: The most straightforward implementation (just telling RL which templates' CSS to serve) probably doesn't work with TemplateSandbox, unless we first solve \u003ca href=\"\/T112474\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT112474: Allow previewing a specific page when editing site JS\/CSS (e.g. Common.css, Vector.js)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e and can use the same mechanism here.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(direct)+2B doesn't make sense.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(save)+2A+3A\/3B and 1B+2A+3A\/3B don'tmake much sense, since if the set of styles to transclude is determined by the list of templates then there's not really anything to collect during the parse.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(save)+2A+3C and 1B+2A+3C, on the other hand, could make sense if we have a pre-save transform turn \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e into \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e and we make seeing \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e necessary to add the RL module instead of just the template being transcluded.\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePro: Works with Parsoid! When Parsoid passes \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e to API action=parse, there's enough information to make the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e->addModuleStyles()\u003c\/tt\u003e call.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Vulnerable to \u003ca href=\"\/T4700\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT4700: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e causing the PST to be skipped.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: How do we handle encountering \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="Template:Foo">\u003c\/tt\u003e when parsing Template:Bar? Especially since with Parsoid we don't know which template is being parsed. Or maybe make that a feature: \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e always loads the CSS from the named page. Currently that page must be a CSS content model page, and in the MCR future it could be either a page with CSS primary content or a page with a 'templatestyles' slot.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(direct) + 2A + 3C.\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCon: Each parse would need to store the CSS somewhere where RL can access it to be able to serve it.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor the record, the current implementation (as of \u003ca href=\"\/rETST3191102c54af9cac8c09d471940a35b15d08b263\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003e3191102c\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) is a combination of 1A(direct)+2A (except that if multiple \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e are encountered, only the last is kept) plus 1A(save)+2B, with the combined output served as 3B.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_251\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ua6pmaml7tfotckpwxff\/PHID-FILE-g6ae7dx6rjstwerekelo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dr0ptp4kt\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2956712\" id=\"2956712\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_250\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dr0ptp4kt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003edr0ptp4kt\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2956712\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_249\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 20 2017, 8:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-20 20:25:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_254\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2956753\" id=\"2956753\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_253\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-feidighl2lokcp2\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2956753\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_252\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 20 2017, 8:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-20 20:38:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_259\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2956792\" id=\"2956792\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_256\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eDecide on storage and delivery method for TemplateStyles CSS\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e[DRAFT] Decide on storage and delivery method for TemplateStyles CSS\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2956792\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_255\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 20 2017, 8:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-20 20:48:27 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_257\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_107\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-37nienvdzdpukvr\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_258\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-j6gme5rx3ikzg36\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_262\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ua6pmaml7tfotckpwxff\/PHID-FILE-g6ae7dx6rjstwerekelo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dr0ptp4kt\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2957245\" id=\"2957245\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_261\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dr0ptp4kt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_109\"\u003edr0ptp4kt\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-nxbcyewgzuzlokq\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2957245\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 21 2017, 12:04 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-21 00:04:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_265\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rxggo2vq22w5xvtqfm5z\/PHID-FILE-pmv3xgbpnwo2ieewia2o\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2963020\" id=\"2963020\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_264\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Moushira\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/readers-community-engagement\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_111\"\u003eReaders-Community-Engagement\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2963020\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_263\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 23 2017, 8:52 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-23 20:52:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rxggo2vq22w5xvtqfm5z\/PHID-FILE-pmv3xgbpnwo2ieewia2o\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2967154\" id=\"2967154\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_273\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_112\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Moushira\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1538\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003eToDo\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1538\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003eDoing\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/readers-community-engagement\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003eReaders-Community-Engagement\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2967154\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_272\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 24 2017, 10:58 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-24 22:58:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_274\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Moushira\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_270\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_271\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThere is a brief page work in progress pages,  designed to capture the community side of the conversation, here \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Extension:TemplateStyles\/Q%26A\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Extension:TemplateStyles\/Q%26A\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_278\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2967837\" id=\"2967837\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_277\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-grzhxpmkth53jjt\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2967837\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_276\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 25 2017, 3:23 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-25 03:23:52 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_282\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rxggo2vq22w5xvtqfm5z\/PHID-FILE-pmv3xgbpnwo2ieewia2o\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2967840\" id=\"2967840\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_280\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_281\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Moushira\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2967840\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_279\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 25 2017, 3:28 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-25 03:28:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_285\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2967870\" id=\"2967870\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_284\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-oqzpr57kzh7ogvc\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2967870\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_283\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 25 2017, 3:41 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-25 03:41:52 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_294\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2967874\" id=\"2967874\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_293\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2967874\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_292\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 25 2017, 3:45 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-25 03:45:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_290\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_291\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThanks \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e! I incorporated some of it in the description (with 1A(save) numbered as 1C). Edits welcome.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2956644\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2956644\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(direct)+2B doesn't make sense.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWell, it's technically feasible (at least in the PHP parser, not sure about Parsoid) - run \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003epreprocessToDom\u003c\/tt\u003e on the template (that already happened in the course of parsing and is in-process-cached so it's free), fetch the right XML field. But I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't go with transclusion if we choose 1A, since it's so much less hassle.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(save)+2A+3A\/3B and 1B+2A+3A\/3B don'tmake much sense, since if the set of styles to transclude is determined by the list of templates then there's not really anything to collect during the parse.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(save)+2A+3C and 1B+2A+3C, on the other hand, could make sense if we have a pre-save transform turn \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e into \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e and we make seeing \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e necessary to add the RL module instead of just the template being transcluded.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHuh, that's clever (although would probably not be easy to understand for editors). I don't understand why the difference between 3A\/B\/C would be relevant, though.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_306\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_304\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_305\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2968963\" id=\"2968963\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_303\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2968963\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_302\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 25 2017, 3:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-25 15:15:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_300\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_301\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2967874\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2967874\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Tgr\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2956644\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2956644\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(direct)+2B doesn't make sense.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWell, it's technically feasible (at least in the PHP parser, not sure about Parsoid) - run \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003epreprocessToDom\u003c\/tt\u003e on the template (that already happened in the course of parsing and is in-process-cached so it's free), fetch the right XML field. But I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't go with transclusion if we choose 1A, since it's so much less hassle.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf you're doing 1A(direct) you probably want the template to have the arguments passed in the invocation, but with 2B you only have the list of templates rather than the list of invocations.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(save)+2A+3A\/3B and 1B+2A+3A\/3B don'tmake much sense, since if the set of styles to transclude is determined by the list of templates then there's not really anything to collect during the parse.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e1A(save)+2A+3C and 1B+2A+3C, on the other hand, could make sense if we have a pre-save transform turn \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e into \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e and we make seeing \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="pagename">\u003c\/tt\u003e necessary to add the RL module instead of just the template being transcluded.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHuh, that's clever (although would probably not be easy to understand for editors). I don't understand why the difference between 3A\/B\/C would be relevant, though.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe point is that there's generally not really a reason to do 2A if you're doing 1B or 1A(save), because all you'd be doing is collecting the list of transcluded templates which ParserOutput already does for you.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe difference is if, instead of grabbing the styles from every template transcluded, you only grab the saved styles if the parser actually sees a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e. While you could do that with 3B there doesn't seem to be much point to it. I suppose for 3A it still makes sense, I was wrong on that point, but the real advantage is that it makes a 1B+3C work with Parsoid.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis could turn out to be really simple with 1B: If you want styles with a template, put \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="Template:Foo\/style.css" \/>\u003c\/tt\u003e in the wikitext, where "Template:Foo\/style.css" is a page using TemplateStyles's content model or else it outputs an error. No magic including of subpages at all. In the MCR future, you could also do \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="Template:Foo" \/>\u003c\/tt\u003e to pull from the TemplateStyles slot. The PST isn't really necessary for 1B (omitting the src parameter would just be an error), but for 1C (formerly 1A(save)) it's not user friendly to have to write \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="ThisPage'sName">\/* styles go here *\/<\/templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e but Parsoid won't work at all with 3C without that src parameter and with 3A it would probably have to turn 1C into 1A[1] which would be really confusing.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e[1]: Given Template:Colorize containing \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{#tag:templatestyles|* { color: {{{c|blue}}} } }}\u003c\/tt\u003e and an invocation \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{{colorize|red}}\u003c\/tt\u003e, 1C should always result in blue text. I believe Parsoid would handle the transclusion itself and wind up passing only \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{#tag:templatestyles|* { color: red } }}\u003c\/tt\u003e to the API, and the API has no idea it should use the 1C-saved styles for Template:Colorize instead of parsing that "live".\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn the description, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Tgr\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e1C: Pro\/Con: largely the same as the A option, except for the flexibility.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso it's probably hard to work with TemplateSandbox since it's loading from data saved somewhere on an earlier parse instead of from the revision.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e2A: Pro: Since transclusion is understood by a lot of tools, all kinds of things would also just work - Parsoid (since it relies on the PHP parser to process parser tags), TemplateSandbox, maybe scary transclusion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou're listing advantages for 2A here that only really apply with certain combinations. Parsoid needs 1A+2A+3A\/3C (or 2A+3A\/3C with the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<tempatestyles src="" \/>\u003c\/tt\u003e idea), it won't work with 1B. TemplateSandbox might have a hard time with some combinations too, depending on just how things are implemented. Scary transclusion probably has problems similar to Parsoid.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e2A: Con: when rendering and article, not really possible to tell where a piece of CSS came from.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith 3A you just look at where the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style>\u003c\/tt\u003e tag is in relation to the rest of the content just like you look at where whatever other template-generated HTML is in relation to the rest of the content to tell where it came from. With 3C it depends on whether we do a 3B-style merge everything into one blob or if we let RL do the merging, in the latter case you may be able to determine it from the RL key.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e3C: Con: extra request; probably less performant than inlining (except for extremely common templates \/ ridiculously large CSS)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIsn't HTTP\/2 supposed to make extra requests to the same domain a non-issue, and possibly actually be more performant than inlining?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e3C: Con: VisualEditor and other applications that do "piecewise composing" of previews will need some sort of API to tell which stylesheets need to be added\/removed.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf each style is its own RL module that RL merges for us, e.g. "load.php?modules=ext.templateStyles.foo,bar,baz", VE and Parsoid should be able to handle it easily because Parsoid will pass one \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e to the action API and get ext.templateStyles.foo back, another \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e and get ext.templateStyles.bar back, and so on. Thus it can easily track which RL module to load\/unload when a particular piece of content gets added\/deleted.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSince \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eParserOutput->addModules()\u003c\/tt\u003e has existed since RL was added in 1.16 and the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eParserOutput->addModuleStyles()\u003c\/tt\u003e has existed since 1.18, I'd hope Parsoid is doing that tracking already to support existing code that uses those methods.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_315\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2971409\" id=\"2971409\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_314\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-xsc52b35gug3pje\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2971409\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_313\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2017, 3:00 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-26 03:00:23 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_311\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_312\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2968963\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2968963\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis could turn out to be really simple with 1B: If you want styles with a template, put \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="Template:Foo\/style.css" \/>\u003c\/tt\u003e in the wikitext, where "Template:Foo\/style.css" is a page using TemplateStyles's content model or else it outputs an error. No magic including of subpages at all. In the MCR future, you could also do \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="Template:Foo" \/>\u003c\/tt\u003e to pull from the TemplateStyles slot. The PST isn't really necessary for 1B (omitting the src parameter would just be an error), but for 1C (formerly 1A(save)) it's not user friendly to have to write \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles src="ThisPage'sName">\/* styles go here *\/<\/templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e but Parsoid won't work at all with 3C without that src parameter and with 3A it would probably have to turn 1C into 1A[1] which would be really confusing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat was getting complex enough that I split it into a separate option (2C).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e1C: Pro\/Con: largely the same as the A option, except for the flexibility.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso it's probably hard to work with TemplateSandbox since it's loading from data saved somewhere on an earlier parse instead of from the revision.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAre you thinking of the case when someone displays an old revision of the template itself in TemplateSandbox? Yeah, that wouldn't work properly, but seems like an edge use case. OTOH there would be similar problems with FlaggedRevs as well.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e2A: Pro: Since transclusion is understood by a lot of tools, all kinds of things would also just work - Parsoid (since it relies on the PHP parser to process parser tags), TemplateSandbox, maybe scary transclusion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou're listing advantages for 2A here that only really apply with certain combinations. Parsoid needs 1A+2A+3A\/3C (or 2A+3A\/3C with the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<tempatestyles src="" \/>\u003c\/tt\u003e idea), it won't work with 1B. TemplateSandbox might have a hard time with some combinations too, depending on just how things are implemented. Scary transclusion probably has problems similar to Parsoid.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI tried to make that more accurate. As for 3B, it seems simple to make it work (also a bit pointless, but just in case it turns out to be important for perf reasons) - ResourceLoader outputs link tags currently, but there is no reason it couldn't do inline style tags (or link tags with data URIs). Alternatively, \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eaddInlineStyle()\u003c\/tt\u003e could travel through parsoid the same way \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eaddModuleStyle()\u003c\/tt\u003e does - that would require some code changes but conceptually it seems pretty simple.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e2A: Con: when rendering and article, not really possible to tell where a piece of CSS came from.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith 3A you just look at where the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style>\u003c\/tt\u003e tag is in relation to the rest of the content just like you look at where whatever other template-generated HTML is in relation to the rest of the content to tell where it came from.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith the normal parser that still doesn't tell you which template it came from; maybe Parsoid preserves enough information in the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003edata-mw\u003c\/tt\u003e attributes, although I don't think so.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nOTOH it could just be added in a CSS or HTML comment if it's considered important.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e3C: Con: extra request; probably less performant than inlining (except for extremely common templates \/ ridiculously large CSS)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIsn't HTTP\/2 supposed to make extra requests to the same domain a non-issue, and possibly actually be more performant than inlining?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIs everything we care about HTTP\/2-capable, though? \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/caniuse.com\/#feat=http2\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eIE on Win<10 and older phones are not.\u003c\/a\u003e (Some of those can use SPDY so not sure exactly what ends up non-covered.)\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI changed the text to be more ambiguous.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e3C: Con: VisualEditor and other applications that do "piecewise composing" of previews will need some sort of API to tell which stylesheets need to be added\/removed.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf each style is its own RL module that RL merges for us, e.g. "load.php?modules=ext.templateStyles.foo,bar,baz", VE and Parsoid should be able to handle it easily because Parsoid will pass one \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e to the action API and get ext.templateStyles.foo back, another \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<templatestyles>\u003c\/tt\u003e and get ext.templateStyles.bar back, and so on. Thus it can easily track which RL module to load\/unload when a particular piece of content gets added\/deleted.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDoes anything currently track unloading though? This mechanism is used for loading extension-specific styles such as custom media handlers, and those can generally be assumed to have no conflicts, so not sure if anyone bothered to do the unloading. (As far as I can see \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/wikimedia\/mediawiki-extensions-VisualEditor\/blob\/master\/ApiVisualEditorEdit.php#L111\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003e(1)\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/wikimedia\/mediawiki-extensions-VisualEditor\/blob\/master\/modules\/ve-mw\/init\/ve.init.mw.ArticleTarget.js#L262\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003e(2)\u003c\/a\u003e module information is not used at all, although that might just be me getting lost in the VE codebase.)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_326\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_324\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_325\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2973841\" id=\"2973841\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_323\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2973841\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_322\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2017, 7:42 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-26 19:42:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_320\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_321\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2971409\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2971409\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Tgr\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e1C: Pro\/Con: largely the same as the A option, except for the flexibility.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso it's probably hard to work with TemplateSandbox since it's loading from data saved somewhere on an earlier parse instead of from the revision.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAre you thinking of the case when someone displays an old revision of the template itself in TemplateSandbox? Yeah, that wouldn't work properly, but seems like an edge use case. OTOH there would be similar problems with FlaggedRevs as well.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNo, it's the same problem when you view a new revision of the template in TemplateSandbox: You use TemplateSandbox while editing template T to view page X, but TemplateStyles even with 3A or 3B is going to be pulling the styles saved when template T was last saved instead of the edited styles you're trying to preview. Unless we figure out \u003ca href=\"\/T112474\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT112474\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e well enough to not have that happen.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e2A: Pro: Since transclusion is understood by a lot of tools, all kinds of things would also just work - Parsoid (since it relies on the PHP parser to process parser tags), TemplateSandbox, maybe scary transclusion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou're listing advantages for 2A here that only really apply with certain combinations. Parsoid needs 1A+2A+3A\/3C (or 2A+3A\/3C with the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<tempatestyles src="" \/>\u003c\/tt\u003e idea), it won't work with 1B. TemplateSandbox might have a hard time with some combinations too, depending on just how things are implemented. Scary transclusion probably has problems similar to Parsoid.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI tried to make that more accurate. As for 3B, it seems simple to make it work (also a bit pointless, but just in case it turns out to be important for perf reasons) - ResourceLoader outputs link tags currently, but there is no reason it couldn't do inline style tags (or link tags with data URIs). Alternatively, \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eaddInlineStyle()\u003c\/tt\u003e could travel through parsoid the same way \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eaddModuleStyle()\u003c\/tt\u003e does - that would require some code changes but conceptually it seems pretty simple.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept you're making 3B work like 3A in Parsoid, which may be significant.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlthough that does bring up a question as to how both the PHP parser and Parsoid would wind up ordering the separate style-modules in 3C when letting RL do the merging. We might wind up making the ordering of different templates' stylesheets be undefined behavior and instruct editors to use more specific selectors instead of depending on the ordering of the stylesheets.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e2A: Con: when rendering and article, not really possible to tell where a piece of CSS came from.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith 3A you just look at where the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style>\u003c\/tt\u003e tag is in relation to the rest of the content just like you look at where whatever other template-generated HTML is in relation to the rest of the content to tell where it came from.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith the normal parser that still doesn't tell you which template it came from;\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy point is that it's no worse than the existing situation of trying to determine where some other piece of HTML output comes from.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003emaybe Parsoid preserves enough information in the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003edata-mw\u003c\/tt\u003e attributes, although I don't think so.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'd hope Parsoid tracks every piece of the output of a template, including any \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style>\u003c\/tt\u003e tags. Otherwise how does it do anything?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eDoes anything currently track unloading though?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt looks like VE doesn't even load modules that are needed by added content. I should probably file a bug for them about that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_335\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2974441\" id=\"2974441\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_334\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2974441\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_333\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2017, 10:54 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-26 22:54:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_332\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2973841\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2973841\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eNo, it's the same problem when you view a new revision of the template in TemplateSandbox: You use TemplateSandbox while editing template T to view page X, but TemplateStyles even with 3A or 3B is going to be pulling the styles saved when template T was last saved instead of the edited styles you're trying to preview. Unless we figure out \u003ca href=\"\/T112474\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT112474\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e well enough to not have that happen.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI see, didn't realize TemplateSandbox can do that (I was thinking about the "substitute your user subpages for templates" thing). Yeah, that's a problem.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt looks like VE doesn't even load modules that are needed by added content. I should probably file a bug for them about that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(For the record, that's \u003ca href=\"\/T156414\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT156414\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_338\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2974444\" id=\"2974444\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_337\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-7xxkeutriv3aa2i\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2974444\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_336\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2017, 10:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-26 22:56:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_341\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2974574\" id=\"2974574\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_340\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-jvnb4ahgqyfejls\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2974574\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_339\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2017, 11:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-26 23:25:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_350\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2974603\" id=\"2974603\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_349\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2974603\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_348\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2017, 11:28 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-26 23:28:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_346\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_347\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_135\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eChatted with \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e about performance. The main concern with external stylesheets is that styles block rendering of the HTML content the precede, and depending on the browser-webserver combination, the browser might not prioritize fetching the CSS over fetching the HTML and thus delay rendering. In some tests that had a significant effect on time to first paint on 2G connections, which is a major factor in user-perceived performance.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_353\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2978999\" id=\"2978999\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_352\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e[DRAFT] Decide on storage and delivery method for TemplateStyles CSS\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eDecide on storage and delivery method for TemplateStyles CSS\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2978999\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_351\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 28 2017, 2:11 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-28 02:11:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_362\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2979004\" id=\"2979004\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_361\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_137\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added projects: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/reading-infrastructure-team-old_don_t_use\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_139\"\u003eReading-Infrastructure-Team-Old (Don't use)\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/parsing-team--archived\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003eParsing-Team--ARCHIVED\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/visualeditor\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_141\"\u003eVisualEditor\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/performance-team\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003ePerformance-Team\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/services\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_143\"\u003eServices\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2979004\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_360\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 28 2017, 2:20 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-28 02:20:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_358\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_359\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_144\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eLooks like we ran out of things to discuss so can as well make this an official RfC.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere is probably no need for a mw.org page or IRC discussion or anything flashy like that (ArchCom seems to be moving towards lower-overhead RfCs anyway). Added a few teams from whom we would especially like to get input. Note that we plan to \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Extension:TemplateStyles\/Q%26A\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eask editors\u003c\/a\u003e in parallel about the first question (parser tag vs. separate page).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_365\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2980595\" id=\"2980595\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_364\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_145\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2980595\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_363\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 29 2017, 6:30 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-29 18:30:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_368\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/oufhulum4kze5rgdza3a\/PHID-FILE-bt7yrtg7nbh3gooznjl2\/profile-me.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mobrovac\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2982691\" id=\"2982691\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_367\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mobrovac\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_146\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e mobrovac\u003c\/a\u003e edited projects, added \u003ca href=\"\/project\/view\/2308\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003eServices (watching)\u003c\/a\u003e; removed \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/services\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_148\"\u003eServices\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2982691\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_366\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 30 2017, 6:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-30 18:16:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_377\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/k5q3d2m3ejyx7cobtbbl\/PHID-FILE-4rln7zwcyy6tvhyo2na3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2982694\" id=\"2982694\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_376\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_149\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2982694\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_375\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 30 2017, 6:18 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-30 18:18:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_373\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_374\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe second main consideration I see for inlining vs. loading extra resources via ResourceLoader is related to the complexity of handling styles while post-processing (composing, extracting, converting) content. For example, extracting sections or specific parts of content along with their styles does not require any special effort when those are inlined or referenced in-line, but will be hard to impossible when loading styles separately via ResourceLoader. Similarly, inlined styles will work without any special effort for previews in VisualEditor, even if a piece of content was template-generated on-demand after adding a transclusion or extension tag in VE.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOverall, I would not be surprised if inlined styles end up being both faster and easier to use. To settle the performance part, we can test performance with typical & extreme cases (like many repeats of the same styled template).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_380\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rxggo2vq22w5xvtqfm5z\/PHID-FILE-pmv3xgbpnwo2ieewia2o\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2983733\" id=\"2983733\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-shield phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_379\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Moushira\u003c\/a\u003e created subtask \u003ca href=\"\/T156689\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT156689: Discuss CSS storage options with community\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2983733\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_378\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 30 2017, 10:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-30 22:14:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_391\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_389\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_390\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2983904\" id=\"2983904\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_388\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_152\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2983904\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_387\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 30 2017, 10:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-30 22:56:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_385\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_386\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2982694\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2982694\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe second main consideration I see for inlining vs. loading extra resources via ResourceLoader is related to the complexity of handling styles while post-processing (composing, extracting, converting) content. For example, extracting sections or specific parts of content along with their styles does not require any special effort when those are inlined or referenced in-line, but will be hard to impossible when loading styles separately via ResourceLoader.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlthough Scribunto, Babel, and any other extension that uses RL to load styles when a particular tag or parser function is used already has that issue. Should we be changing all of those extensions to load styles and scripts inline too?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eSimilarly, inlined styles will work without any special effort for previews in VisualEditor, even if a piece of content was template-generated on-demand after adding a transclusion or extension tag in VE.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOn the other hand, fixing \u003ca href=\"\/T156414\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT156414\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e (which VE should do regardless) means loading styles with ResourceLoader will work without any special effort too.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_394\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rxggo2vq22w5xvtqfm5z\/PHID-FILE-pmv3xgbpnwo2ieewia2o\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2984010\" id=\"2984010\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_393\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Moushira\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Moushira\u003c\/a\u003e removed a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/readers-community-engagement\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_155\"\u003eReaders-Community-Engagement\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2984010\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_392\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 30 2017, 11:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-30 23:25:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_406\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_404\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_405\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2984106\" id=\"2984106\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_403\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_157\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2984106\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_402\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 31 2017, 12:08 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-31 00:08:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_400\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_401\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn any event, I would recommend against a situation where all templates with styles register a module in ResourceLoader as this would significantly increase the startup manifest which would negatively affect performance and imho does not scale.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe CSSMin and JavaScriptMinifier libs are available as standalone interfaces that can easily be wrapped in an APC cache\/fetch (using deterministic keys containing a hash of the input parameters, maybe using \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eMemoizedCallable\u003c\/tt\u003e).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSince these styles should be loaded before the affected content renders, it won't use JavaScript and won't benefit from ResourceLoader's localStorage caching either way. It would be nice, however, if we could leverage at least some other client-side cache, so as to avoid needing to re-download the same styles on similar pages. But unless we find another way of using an external request, this kind of caching probabl won't be possible untill we refactor our front-end experience using an API-driven ServiceWorker.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhile there is a (mostly unused) concept in ResourceLoader of modules that are known server-side and loadable by url (but not in the startup manifest), this is probably not useful here. (Currently used for \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003ejquery\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emediawiki\u003c\/tt\u003e only, since the client can't load itself anyway). The reason we can't use this, is because it must be possible for a client to render the page correctly given only the parsed article html and the parse API data. This currently includes properties such as \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003ejsconfigvars\u003c\/tt\u003e and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003emodules\u003c\/tt\u003e (\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/wikimedia\/mediawiki\/blob\/728cd57b2d5ff799d15f14791bb8680eb6d1dacc\/includes\/api\/ApiParse.php#L368-L377\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003esee source code\u003c\/a\u003e). Given they'd be included there, they must be resolvable not only via OutputPage (by rendering a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<link rel=stylesheet>\u003c\/tt\u003e), but also client-side when doing Live Preview, and post-save by VisualEditor when re-rendering the page. As such, they'd have to be in the startup manifest. I'd strongly recommend against this approach. For this reason alone I'd favour inline styles.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2983904\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2983904\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2982694\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2982694\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSimilarly, inlined styles will work without any special effort for previews in VisualEditor, even if a piece of content was template-generated on-demand after adding a transclusion or extension tag in VE.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOn the other hand, fixing \u003ca href=\"\/T156414\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT156414\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e (which VE should do regardless) means loading styles with ResourceLoader will work without any special effort too.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYeah, loading of modules in general isn't an issue, and extensions should continue to use that method. I'd say the advice for inline styles is specific to TemplateStyles.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_415\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2984571\" id=\"2984571\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_414\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_158\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2984571\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_413\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 31 2017, 1:24 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-31 01:24:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_411\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_412\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2983904\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2983904\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eShould we be changing all of those extensions to load styles and scripts inline too?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eChanging module registration to happen via the Parser and not ParserOutput (so that it can be output either into the header or the current DOM position, with the extension being agnostic about which happens) might not be a bad idea.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_426\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_424\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_425\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2987308\" id=\"2987308\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_423\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2987308\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_422\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 31 2017, 6:31 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-01-31 18:31:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_420\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_421\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_161\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2984105\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2984105\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Krinkle\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn any event, I would recommend against a situation where all templates with styles register a module in ResourceLoader as this would significantly increase the startup manifest which would negatively affect performance and imho does not scale.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eObviously not, that'd probably be thousands of modules! If we were to go the 1B+3C route, my thinking is to somehow register a handler for anything with the prefix "ext.TemplateStyles.". A normal parse would output a module of "ext.TemplateStyles.$revid" which the handler would be able to fetch by $revid, and something like a preview would probably wind up doing the one stylesheet inline like we do now for previewing user JS and CSS edits.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt doesn't look like prefix-handlers like this currently exist, but it seems doable at first look as long as we don't allow such modules to have versions, dependencies, and so on (or maybe to all have the same value).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_429\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2988710\" id=\"2988710\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_428\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-yxmuuzfpvwdxkcj\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2988710\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_427\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 2:41 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 02:41:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_432\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lca4rs7nmfnapqhqnw6h\/PHID-FILE-nlshj2hpzt5ubhuj7rfj\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Halfak\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2988720\" id=\"2988720\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_431\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Halfak\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003eHalfak\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2988720\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_430\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 3:00 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 03:00:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_435\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2988782\" id=\"2988782\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_434\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_164\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2988782\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_433\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 3:56 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 03:56:27 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_438\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/3mqrant63ndishc5nu7f\/PHID-FILE-w5bxnf47gmyrdcr6bath\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Niedzielski\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2988835\" id=\"2988835\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_437\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Niedzielski\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Niedzielski\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2988835\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_436\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 4:47 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 04:47:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_441\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ibwvwnryaftpycp36sta\/PHID-FILE-c33l454n2a6u7jgrvqim\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/TheDJ\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2989061\" id=\"2989061\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_440\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/TheDJ\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_166\"\u003eTheDJ\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2989061\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_439\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 7:40 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 07:40:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_444\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vsuuvi4sdwvjp37eht7x\/PHID-FILE-y5si7dpz5y6hxkofhz72\/profile-meu_avatar_quadrado.PNG)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/He7d3r\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2989358\" id=\"2989358\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_443\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/He7d3r\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003eHe7d3r\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2989358\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_442\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 10:14 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 10:14:32 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_447\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/abnv6m2xoqjroqyladvh\/PHID-FILE-yryhnwq73gr36rjgrz4m\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Gilles\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2991142\" id=\"2991142\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_446\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Gilles\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Gilles\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1212\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003eInbox, needs triage\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1212\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_170\"\u003eRadar\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/performance-team\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_171\"\u003ePerformance-Team\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2991142\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_445\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 8:21 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 20:21:04 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_456\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ntxw6g7ccvwafwlkityc\/PHID-FILE-5uthqbwzh235skimrwpv\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Fjalapeno\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2991273\" id=\"2991273\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_455\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Fjalapeno\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_173\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Fjalapeno\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2991273\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_454\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 8:50 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 20:50:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_452\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_453\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003ePosting this from the project demoted by \u003ca href=\"\/p\/TheDJ\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@TheDJ\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e at the CREDIT session as it seems relevant:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=User:TheDJ\/responsiveContent.css\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=User:TheDJ\/responsiveContent.css\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_467\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/v5wmnfiaelrd6nztxd3a\/PHID-FILE-s57znldbv3qchtewuryd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/14\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_465\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-empire\" data-meta=\"0_466\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2991321\" id=\"2991321\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_464\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_175\"\u003edaniel\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2991321\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_463\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 9:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 21:04:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_461\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_462\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_174\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eA possibly relevant patch and discussion recently came up in the context of rendering PDF with Electron: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/#\/c\/333125\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/#\/c\/333125\/\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_472\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2991421\" id=\"2991421\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_469\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_176\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-has-shepherd\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003eTechCom-Has-shepherd\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2991421\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_468\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 9:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 21:38:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_470\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_178\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_179\"\u003eP1: Define\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_180\"\u003eUnder discussion\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_471\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_182\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1892\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003eBacklog\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1892\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_184\"\u003eGWicke\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-has-shepherd\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_185\"\u003eTechCom-Has-shepherd\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_481\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/k5q3d2m3ejyx7cobtbbl\/PHID-FILE-4rln7zwcyy6tvhyo2na3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2991437\" id=\"2991437\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_480\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2991437\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_479\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 9:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 21:45:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_477\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_478\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_187\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe briefly discussed this in the architecture committe. A (very) brief summary:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe general consensus was leaning towards storing CSS on a separate (sub-)page, similar to templatedata.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eInline delivery was favored, both for performance and simplicity.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_490\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/k5q3d2m3ejyx7cobtbbl\/PHID-FILE-4rln7zwcyy6tvhyo2na3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2991652\" id=\"2991652\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_489\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_188\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2991652\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_488\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 10:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 22:45:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_486\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_487\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_189\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo far it seems that the discussion is converging. We are highlighting this RFC in this week's RFC update in the hope of encouraging wider review. Depending on the outcome of the discussion on this task over the next week, we can consider starting the one-week last call period.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo, please comment now, and let others that you think should be involved know.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_502\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/v5wmnfiaelrd6nztxd3a\/PHID-FILE-s57znldbv3qchtewuryd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/14\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_500\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-empire\" data-meta=\"0_501\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2991666\" id=\"2991666\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_499\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_190\"\u003edaniel\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2991666\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_498\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 1 2017, 10:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-01 22:47:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_496\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_497\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2991437\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2991437\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe general consensus was leaning towards storing CSS on a separate (sub-)page, similar to templatedata.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAfaik, <templatedata> as such uses the inline approach, it's just transcluded from a subpage per convention. I like this, it would give editors the freedom to decide whether they want to manage CSS inline (for atomicity) or on a separate page (to avoid clutter). The downside of this hybrid approach is that it makes migration to MCR more complicated.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBut I think aiming for similarity with <templatedata> has merit in itself. Consistency helps, both in the code and for editors.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_513\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_511\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_512\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2993846\" id=\"2993846\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_510\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_192\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2993846\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_509\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2017, 4:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-02 16:56:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_507\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_508\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_193\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2991437\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2991437\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe briefly discussed this in the architecture committe.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePublic discussion would be nice.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe general consensus was leaning towards storing CSS on a separate (sub-)page, similar to templatedata.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e pointed out, this is a contradiction. <templatedata> uses a tag, not a subpage. In particular, I believe templatedata's operation is most like option 1C here. IMO for TemplateStyles 1C is probably the worst option, since it has the disadvantages of 1A in allowing crazy stuff[1] that will prevent a move to MCR and UI confusion of having CSS content embedded in wikitext (no CodeEditor support, etc.) and the disadvantages of 1B that make it hard to work well with stuff like TemplateSandbox.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e[1]: Like \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{#tag:templatestyles|* { color: {{{1|red}}}; } }}\u003c\/tt\u003e or worse.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eInline delivery was favored, both for performance and simplicity.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e3A or 3B? Was \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2987308\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2987308\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e considered in the discussion?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2991652\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2991652\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo far it seems that the discussion is converging.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere doesn't seem to have been much discussion yet to converge.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePersonally, I really like the 1B+2C+3C idea: Actual subpages have advantages in UI and future compatibility with MCR, and RL delivery avoids the duplication of 3A and the additional work (beyond \u003ca href=\"\/T156414\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT156414\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) that would be needed for Parsoid for 3B. But if everyone else really hates 3C, my second choice would be 1B+2C+3A and hope the duplication isn't a problem in practice.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_523\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2994550\" id=\"2994550\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_522\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_194\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2994550\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_521\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2017, 7:52 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-02 19:52:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_519\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_520\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe might want to wait for the \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Extension:TemplateStyles\/Q%26A\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eeditor consultation\u003c\/a\u003e to finish first, unless we feel 1A is so bad that it should be avoided even if editors have a strong preference for it.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2993846\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2993846\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e[1]: Like \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e{{#tag:templatestyles|* { color: {{{1|red}}}; } }}\u003c\/tt\u003e or worse.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI wouldn't consider the use of template parameters in CSS crazy; a lot of templates take color parameters for example. (Granted, it would have possibilities for abuse that would have to be considered.) But it's certainly possible to do much worse things that way :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIMO if we don't allow dynamic styles, we should commit ourselves to eventually enable LESS and some sort of sanitized parameter system in template styles.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_532\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vsuuvi4sdwvjp37eht7x\/PHID-FILE-y5si7dpz5y6hxkofhz72\/profile-meu_avatar_quadrado.PNG)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/He7d3r\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2994615\" id=\"2994615\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_531\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/He7d3r\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_196\"\u003eHe7d3r\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2994615\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_530\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2017, 8:43 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-02 20:43:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_528\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_529\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_197\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIndeed, it is just for convention (and not followed everywhere). See also \u003ca href=\"\/T56140\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT56140: Move TemplateData to its own JSON-content namespace and associate with Template-namespace, or to its own TemplateData content model and revision slot\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2991666\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2991666\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2991437\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2991437\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe general consensus was leaning towards storing CSS on a separate (sub-)page, similar to templatedata.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAfaik, <templatedata> as such uses the inline approach, it's just transcluded from a subpage per convention. I like this, it would give editors the freedom to decide whether they want to manage CSS inline (for atomicity) or on a separate page (to avoid clutter). The downside of this hybrid approach is that it makes migration to MCR more complicated.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBut I think aiming for similarity with <templatedata> has merit in itself. Consistency helps, both in the code and for editors.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_541\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/chvngxnqoko6t3z6hc6b\/PHID-FILE-apmfbzbqf4i24fx5ac7l\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nikerabbit\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2996589\" id=\"2996589\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_540\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nikerabbit\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_199\"\u003eNikerabbit\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2996589\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_539\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 3 2017, 3:31 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-03 15:31:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_537\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_538\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_198\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eFeel free not to derail this discussion if my question is off-topic. I was wondering whether the proposed alternatives would have any difference in ease of implementation if we wanted contain the styles only the to HTML produced by the template. I am thinking about Content Translation, where we would load styles from the source language wiki and the target language wiki, and don't want that they conflict with each another.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_552\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_550\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_551\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2996722\" id=\"2996722\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_549\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2996722\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_548\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 3 2017, 4:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-03 16:11:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_546\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_547\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_201\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2996588\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2996588\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nikerabbit\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Nikerabbit\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eFeel free not to derail this discussion if my question is off-topic. I was wondering whether the proposed alternatives would have any difference in ease of implementation if we wanted contain the styles only the to HTML produced by the template.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNo, nothing in the discussion here would make that easier or harder. There was at one point a proposal in the HTML spec for a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style scoped>\u003c\/tt\u003e that would have needed delivery method 3A, but it has since been \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/whatwg\/html\/issues\/552\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eremoved\u003c\/a\u003e. Even then, it would probably have required every transclusion to produce a single DOM fragment (e.g. \u003ca href=\"\/T130567\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT130567\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) in which the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style scoped>\u003c\/tt\u003e could be embedded.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_555\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/k5q3d2m3ejyx7cobtbbl\/PHID-FILE-4rln7zwcyy6tvhyo2na3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2997119\" id=\"2997119\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_554\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_202\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-lahabtnqu4ammem\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2997119\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_553\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 3 2017, 6:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-03 18:19:25 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_564\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/k5q3d2m3ejyx7cobtbbl\/PHID-FILE-4rln7zwcyy6tvhyo2na3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2997166\" id=\"2997166\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_563\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_203\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2997166\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_562\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 3 2017, 6:36 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-03 18:36:48 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_560\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_561\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_204\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2993846\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2993846\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2991437\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2991437\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe briefly discussed this in the architecture committe.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePublic discussion would be nice.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis task is where basically all discussion happens, and it is public.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe general consensus was leaning towards storing CSS on a separate (sub-)page, similar to templatedata.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e pointed out, this is a contradiction. <templatedata> uses a tag, not a subpage. In particular, I believe templatedata's operation is most like option 1C here.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBy convention, templatedata stores the actual information on sub-pages. It then also transcludes those into the template itself. I personally am leaning towards keeping things properly separate (no transclusion \/ option 1B), but others like \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e see advantages in (temporarily) allowing inlining or transclusion of this information to streamline the edit \/ preview process (hybrid of 1B and 1A).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eInline delivery was favored, both for performance and simplicity.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e3A or 3B? Was \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2987308\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2987308\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e considered in the discussion?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e3A. Options of using RL were considered broadly, but the discussion was fairly brief and focused more on the high level question of inlining with the template vs. integrating with RL.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ePersonally, I really like the 1B+2C+3C idea: Actual subpages have advantages in UI and future compatibility with MCR, and RL delivery avoids the duplication of 3A and the additional work (beyond \u003ca href=\"\/T156414\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT156414\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) that would be needed for Parsoid for 3B. But if everyone else really hates 3C, my second choice would be 1B+2C+3A and hope the duplication isn't a problem in practice.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm with you on 1B and 3A. On the processing model (2), I am leaning towards 2A or 2B. The preprocessor already builds up a list of templates used, and should also be able to compile concatenated styles based on this. How this is implemented internally (2A or 2B) seems to be less important.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2996722\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2996722\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThere was at one point a proposal in the HTML spec for a \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style scoped>\u003c\/tt\u003e that would have needed delivery method 3A, but it has since been \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/whatwg\/html\/issues\/552\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eremoved\u003c\/a\u003e. Even then, it would probably have required every transclusion to produce a single DOM fragment (e.g. \u003ca href=\"\/T130567\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT130567\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) in which the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style scoped>\u003c\/tt\u003e could be embedded.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eParsoid has the ability to cleanly encapsulate transclusions and extension tag content. It even supports this for multi-template transclusions (table start - row - end), and also handles a template emitting multiple DOM nodes. Given the parsing team's plans to use the Parsoid processing model by default, this should become tractable in the longer term.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI personally think that we should contain template styles to the template content itself. Styles affecting arbitrary parts of the page are rife for abuse, and make it impossible to cleanly (de-)compose content without getting unpredictable styling behavior. Without containment, we would be forced to deliver all styles in the head of the document (delaying all rendering), or accept the need for a full re-paint whenever an inline style is encountered. We also need to consider security risks, like re-dressing attacks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_573\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2998857\" id=\"2998857\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_572\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2998857\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_571\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 4 2017, 9:58 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-04 21:58:52 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_569\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_570\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_206\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2997166\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2997166\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ePublic discussion would be nice.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis task is where basically all discussion happens, and it is public.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree that seeing the ArchCom's thinking would be more informative than just seeing the conclusion. I realize that ArchCom workflows are in flux now and not all changes are intentional; but in the long term, it would be nice to end up with a process that is at least as open as the old IRC-based method.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eBy convention, templatedata stores the actual information on sub-pages. It then also transcludes those into the template itself. I personally am leaning towards keeping things properly separate (no transclusion \/ option 1B), but others like \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e see advantages in (temporarily) allowing inlining or transclusion of this information to streamline the edit \/ preview process (hybrid of 1B and 1A).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't think that's a well-observed convention. The enwiki templatedata tutorial says \u003cem\u003eThe TemplateData is added to the template page itself inside tags, or anywhere on the template's documentation page if it has one\u003c\/em\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Special:PagesWithProp\/templatedata&limit=500&offset=0\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003emost templates\u003c\/a\u003e seem to include the templatedata tag directly. It probably doesn't help that the GUI provided by the extension can't handle subpages.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_576\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bpdxnomcsaeqkygp4czj\/PHID-FILE-iuh7qwg3bmgvfhkfjjln\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/SamanthaNguyen\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2999917\" id=\"2999917\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_575\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/SamanthaNguyen\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_207\"\u003eSamanthaNguyen\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2999917\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_574\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 6 2017, 12:42 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-06 00:42:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_589\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpvr2eembyewyy7kmoah\/PHID-FILE-q3f7troopzjjk6grs5j2\/profile-HelloKittyLounge)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_585\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_586\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_587\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_588\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3003549\" id=\"3003549\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_584\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_209\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3003549\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_583\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 6 2017, 10:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-06 22:34:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_581\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_582\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_208\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe main motivation imo should be to make styling on mobile\/skinning easier and to encourage sharing.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy biggest concerns around this are reusability\/maintainability - if we encourage templates to share code with one another and inherit from their parents rather than replicate this makes it much easier to address problems with the mobile experience. Using inline style tags all over the place worries me unless they are transcluded from other pages e.g. something like {{Template:Foo.css}}.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCurrently, if a mobile page is broken, generally an edit has to be made to the underlying template, but when you have several templates similar in name and purpose, this becomes near impossible to scale.  The introduction of class names will create its own problems - editors are likely to choose class names used by other templates. Of course scoped styles could help address this, but it feels like a golden opportunity to encourage.. through friction.. some standardisation on class names.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso editing style tags in isolation on different templates which transclude each other is likely to lead to lots of headaches. A template editor will not be able to easily see what styles are available and may end up generating a lot of duplicate css.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePersonally, I think we should start simple as we don't even know if template editors will use them and how they will use them. The goal is to provide a place to add a media query as currently there is no place.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA while back I suggested simply \u003cstrong\u003eembedding styles for Template:Foo from Template:Foo.css\u003c\/strong\u003e. It seems a lightweight, easy to invalidate, hard to abuse way first pass to get style tags on a page and would allow us to experiment. It does not rule out the idea of style tags in future but it means we can start fixing a lot of our templates on mobile sooner rather than later and work out what the problems we are likely to hit will be.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_600\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_598\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_599\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3006182\" id=\"3006182\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_597\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3006182\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_596\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 7 2017, 5:32 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-07 17:32:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_594\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_595\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_211\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2997166\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2997166\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2993846\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2993846\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2991437\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2991437\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@GWicke\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe briefly discussed this in the architecture committe.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePublic discussion would be nice.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis task is where basically all discussion happens, and it is public.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept this task \u003cem\u003eisn't\u003c\/em\u003e where all the discussion has happened. You're relaying opinions and decisions made in private by the architecture committee, and doing so in vague terms.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eBy convention, templatedata stores the actual information on sub-pages. It then also transcludes those into the template itself. I personally am leaning towards keeping things properly separate (no transclusion \/ option 1B), but others like \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e see advantages in (temporarily) allowing inlining or transclusion of this information to streamline the edit \/ preview process (hybrid of 1B and 1A).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSee, here's an example. What advantages did \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e see? How exactly would the "hybrid" he envisions work?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e3A or 3B? Was \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2987308\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2987308\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e considered in the discussion?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e3A. Options of using RL were considered broadly, but the discussion was fairly brief and focused more on the high level question of inlining with the template vs. integrating with RL.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAgain, no useful details of your discussion.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm with you on 1B and 3A. On the processing model (2), I am leaning towards 2A or 2B. The preprocessor already builds up a list of templates used, and should also be able to compile concatenated styles based on this. How this is implemented internally (2A or 2B) seems to be less important.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e2A doesn't make sense with 1B, as mentioned already in this discussion (the case where it did make a sort of sense has become 2C). 2B doesn't work with 3A generally (you can't put the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e<style>\u003c\/tt\u003e next to the rest of the HTML of the transclusion when you're not processing the styles until after the whole page is parsed), although Parsoid might wind up falling back from 3B to 3A since it parses wikitext piecewise (and, as noted above, that would likely be another source of non-VE versus VE incompatibility due to differences in ordering of different templates' stylesheets).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eParsoid has the ability to cleanly encapsulate transclusions and extension tag content. It even supports this for multi-template transclusions (table start - row - end), and also handles a template emitting multiple DOM nodes. Given the parsing team's plans to use the Parsoid processing model by default, this should become tractable in the longer term.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt seems a bit late to advocate putting this on indefinite hold.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_609\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/k5q3d2m3ejyx7cobtbbl\/PHID-FILE-4rln7zwcyy6tvhyo2na3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3006350\" id=\"3006350\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_608\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GWicke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e GWicke\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3006350\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_607\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 7 2017, 6:17 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-07 18:17:23 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_605\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_606\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_213\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#3006182\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#3006182\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eExcept this task \u003cem\u003eisn't\u003c\/em\u003e where all the discussion has happened. You're relaying opinions and decisions made in private by the architecture committee, and doing so in vague terms.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs I wrote, the discussion was very brief and high level. The detailed & authoritative discussion is happening on this task, and the decision will be made based on it, using the regular last call process.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAgain, no useful details of your discussion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI expect \u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@daniel\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e to weigh in right here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eParsoid has the ability to cleanly encapsulate transclusions and extension tag content. It even supports this for multi-template transclusions (table start - row - end), and also handles a template emitting multiple DOM nodes. Given the parsing team's plans to use the Parsoid processing model by default, this should become tractable in the longer term.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt seems a bit late to advocate putting this on indefinite hold.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe might not be able to cleanly \u003cem\u003eenforce\u003c\/em\u003e style scoping until then, but that does not mean that everything needs to block on it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_612\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3006601\" id=\"3006601\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_611\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/483\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_215\"\u003eTo Triage\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/483\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_216\"\u003eExternal and Administrivia\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/visualeditor\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_217\"\u003eVisualEditor\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3006601\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_610\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 7 2017, 7:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-07 19:01:05 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_621\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/js5lgcqceoin4y6lhzj2\/PHID-FILE-hzs2c7z2sh7xv77co2ty\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_S.png-_694e79-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3012206\" id=\"3012206\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_620\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003essastry\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3012206\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_619\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 9 2017, 7:05 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-09 07:05:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_617\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_618\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_218\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSorry I am late to the party, but I am right now on partial vacation in India (working half-time for most of my time here). I missed the phabricator notifications in the email volume as well as the Scrum of Scrum notifications about it.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI see that there are specific implementation questions and proposals (with pros\/cons) being made, but I don't see a listing of what properties you wish for the solutions to have. i.e. instead of having some properties emerge as side-effects of specific solutions, it would be better to be explicit about what the design goals are.  Ex: do you want wikitext clutter or not, do you want CSS highlighting or not, what kind of performance do you want, what kind of edit requirements are being considered, do you want editors to do crazy things or not, do you want to provide LESS support or not, and so on. Right now, it seems we can pick a medley of options for the different implement options and we get some subset of properties by default.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCan I request an explicit articulation of what the design goals are?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_630\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/js5lgcqceoin4y6lhzj2\/PHID-FILE-hzs2c7z2sh7xv77co2ty\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_S.png-_694e79-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3012231\" id=\"3012231\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_629\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_220\"\u003essastry\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3012231\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_628\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 9 2017, 7:38 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-09 07:38:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_626\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_627\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_221\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe reason I ask is because the goals might dictate the implementation choices even if it might be a bit more work for TemplateStyles, Parsoid, PHP Parser, or VE.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor example, it seems scoping of styles to the template content might be a desirable goal because of the higher level goal of composition of documents (for performance reasons, or editability reasons in VE and maybe other tools even?). But, in \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#2996722\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#2996722\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, Brad noted that scoped style tags are not supported anymore, so, if scoped styles are really required, one possibility would be to assign auto-generated (based on template name) class names that will be part of the HTML and would be automatically added to CSS style rules that the template provides. But, if not, we don't need to do it. In both cases, it seems like a variant of 2B might do the trick. In both cases, you get deduplication. And, updating <head> styles in VE after an edit is simple (at worst, it retains unneeded styles when the last use of a template is deleted). Incremental updates would also work for the most part (you could either choose to retain unneeded styles if the edit removed the last use of a template OR choose to rebuild the styles for the page on certain edits OR do the rebuilding every so often).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo, I think it might be better to state desired goals\/properties and make implementation decisions based on that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_641\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_639\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_640\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3012964\" id=\"3012964\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_638\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_222\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3012964\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_637\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 9 2017, 1:59 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-09 13:59:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_635\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_636\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_223\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#3012205\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#3012205\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ssastry\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCan I request an explicit articulation of what the design goals are?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not sure to what extent anyone has put together design goals that answer the questions you ask yet. In part this discussion and \u003ca href=\"\/T156689\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT156689\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e exist to determine those goals.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe want to provide the ability to specify stylesheets that get added to the page when a template is transcluded (in large part so \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@media\u003c\/span\u003e can be used), and these stylesheets must be sanitized to prevent the styles leaking outside of the content area, to prevent use of dangerous features such as the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eexpression()\u003c\/tt\u003e function, to prevent tracking via external \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eurl()\u003c\/tt\u003es, etc.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eEx: do you want wikitext clutter or not,\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'd prefer not, but it's \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Extension:TemplateStyles\/Q%26A\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ean open question\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003edo you want CSS highlighting or not,\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'd prefer yes, but it's \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Extension:TemplateStyles\/Q%26A\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ean open question\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ewhat kind of performance do you want,\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eUhh, "good performance"? Sanitizing the CSS is obviously going to take some additional time whenever that's done, since we have to parse it, run filters over the parse tree, and then unparse it. I'm not extremely familiar with frontend performance concerns, but it seems there are some tradeoffs to be made there with respect to delivery methods.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ewhat kind of edit requirements are being considered,\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNot sure what you're asking here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003edo you want editors to do crazy things or not,\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'd prefer not, but it's \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Extension:TemplateStyles\/Q%26A\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ean open question\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003edo you want to provide LESS support or not,\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNot at this time. It seems unlikely to be too difficult to add later, since as I understand it it would just involve running a LESS-to-CSS conversion then feeding the resulting CSS through the sanitizer.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#3012231\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#3012231\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ssastry\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eFor example, it seems scoping of styles to the template content might be a desirable goal because of the higher level goal of composition of documents (for performance reasons, or editability reasons in VE and maybe other tools even?).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere are two slightly different concepts being lumped together here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eReplacing template transclusions without reparsing the whole page, as VE editing does and has long been a suggestion for Parsoid performance improvement, requires that the styles be associated with the rest of the template output but not that those styles don't affect anything else in the page. This seems to be a desirable property. 3A and 3C can achieve this fairly easily, while with 3B it would be difficult (but 2B+3B could do it by regenerating the whole CSS from the list of templates).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eScoping the effects of the styles themselves to the output of the template that includes them. I'm not at all sure that this is a desirable property, particularly if we choose 2B since it would seem to preclude sharing of styles between templates which very much is a desirable property. Since templates do not currently return self-contained DOM nodes or document fragments, this sort of scoping would likely also be blocked on waiting for that to actually happen.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn both cases, it seems like a variant of 2B might do the trick. In both cases, you get deduplication.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNot entirely. At best you could turn ".foo, .bar { color: red; }" into ".template1 .foo, .template1 .bar, .template2 .foo, .template2 .bar, .template3 .foo, .template3 .bar, .template4 .foo, .template4 .bar { color: red; }".\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_654\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_650\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_651\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_652\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_653\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3013487\" id=\"3013487\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_649\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_224\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3013487\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_648\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 9 2017, 4:28 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-09 16:28:40 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_646\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_647\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_225\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#3012964\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#3012964\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe want to provide the ability to specify stylesheets that get added to the page when a template is transcluded (in large part so \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@media\u003c\/span\u003e can be used), and these stylesheets must be sanitized to prevent the styles leaking outside of the content area, to prevent use of dangerous features such as the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eexpression()\u003c\/tt\u003e function, to prevent tracking via external \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eurl()\u003c\/tt\u003es, etc.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat's\u2026 a major digression from "only affecting the relevant \u003cem\u003etemplate\u003c\/em\u003e", which was the original point.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eScoping to the content div is almost valueless; some minor security benefits at a major content usability loss. I'm not sure I can endorse deployment if this is going to make the template problem worse. When was that decision made?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_667\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpvr2eembyewyy7kmoah\/PHID-FILE-q3f7troopzjjk6grs5j2\/profile-HelloKittyLounge)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_663\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_664\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_665\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_666\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3013615\" id=\"3013615\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_662\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_226\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3013615\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_661\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 9 2017, 5:02 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-09 17:02:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_659\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_660\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_227\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eCan I request an explicit articulation of what the design goals are?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs I alluded to in : \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.wikimedia.org\/T155813#3003548\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-blue phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-anchor\" data-meta=\"0_89\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003ehttps:\/\/phabricator.wikimedia.org\/T155813#3003548\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAs the writer of that \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Requests_for_comment\/Allow_styling_in_templates\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eRFC\u003c\/a\u003e, the goal I had in mind was simply to provide a mechanism where I and other editors can add a media query to a template to control different styling on mobile and desktop.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnything else is nice to have.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nTBH this should be achieved via some kind of non-standard mobile-style attribute e.g.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e<div style="padding:8px" tablet-style="float:left;"><\/div>\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_678\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ua6pmaml7tfotckpwxff\/PHID-FILE-g6ae7dx6rjstwerekelo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/dr0ptp4kt\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_676\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_677\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3013625\" id=\"3013625\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_675\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/dr0ptp4kt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_228\"\u003edr0ptp4kt\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3013625\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_674\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 9 2017, 5:06 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-09 17:06:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_672\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_673\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_229\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdforrester-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, what is it that's a a major digression?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdforrester-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: When referring to the"content div" or "content area" are we talking about the entire page (that is, not the chrome, but everything in the article) or something else?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_687\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/js5lgcqceoin4y6lhzj2\/PHID-FILE-hzs2c7z2sh7xv77co2ty\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_S.png-_694e79-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3013856\" id=\"3013856\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_686\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_230\"\u003essastry\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3013856\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_685\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 9 2017, 5:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-02-09 17:47:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_683\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_684\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_231\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#3012964\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#3012964\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Anomie\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T155813#3012205\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT155813#3012205\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssastry\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ssastry\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCan I request an explicit articulation of what the design goals are?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not sure to what extent anyone has put together design goals that answer the questions you ask yet. In part this discussion and \u003ca href=\"\/T156689\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT156689\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e exist to determine those goals.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat makes sense. I am not saying that the presentation \/ discussion of choices is not useful in and of itself, but my suggestion is for someone to go over the discussion so far and surface the design goals or even questions to resolve (for ex: all the open questions you pointed to in your response) and resolve them. Without a better sense of that, it seems it would be difficult to truly nail down implementation choices. That said, it is possible of course that architectural considerations might circumscribe implementation choices which might then resolve open questions. If so, they should be explicitly stated then. Maybe the ArchCom folks talked about some of that when they made specific recommendations?  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