for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2071432\" id=\"2071432\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_137\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2071432\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 29 2016, 7:25 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-02-29 07:25:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2071444\" id=\"2071444\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_140\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_38\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/collaboration-team-triage\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003eCollaboration-Team-Triage\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/1201063\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2071444\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_139\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 29 2016, 7:25 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-02-29 07:25:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_141\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_41\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/StudiesWorld\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003eStudiesWorld\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/1201063\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_146\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2072613\" id=\"2072613\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_144\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-6hpmauj3n2koud7\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2072613\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_143\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 29 2016, 5:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-02-29 17:04:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_145\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-vywh3wv2nbhc6g5\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2072672\" id=\"2072672\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_148\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T128352\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003eT128352: RfC: Need to merge Notifications and Watchlist or lack thereof\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2072672\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 29 2016, 5:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-02-29 17:15:32 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_149\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-rzgetezrdpi2vlu\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2072784\" id=\"2072784\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_152\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/collaboration-team-triage\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003eCollaboration-Team-Triage\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2072784\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 29 2016, 5:36 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-02-29 17:36:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2072990\" id=\"2072990\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_155\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003eQuiddity\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2072990\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 29 2016, 6:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-02-29 18:45:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077469\" id=\"2077469\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_158\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-ptklqjqru35icse\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077469\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_157\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 9:37 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 21:37:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/yhqlu46f2mwg3a36ko6l\/PHID-FILE-bt6k3djtpehl3zkk7zzg\/profile-merge.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077498\" id=\"2077498\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_161\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003eRicordisamoa\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077498\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 9:44 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 21:44:49 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077501\" id=\"2077501\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_164\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_165\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077501\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 9:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 21:45:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_166\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_170\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5q634gh5s6xlnedxmkxs\/PHID-FILE-ovwadxcq2s3mmaonkqdc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077509\" id=\"2077509\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_169\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077509\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 9:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 21:48:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_179\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5q634gh5s6xlnedxmkxs\/PHID-FILE-ovwadxcq2s3mmaonkqdc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077518\" id=\"2077518\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_178\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077518\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 9:51 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 21:51:26 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_175\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_176\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSounds good! I usually like a clean core w\/ most stuff in extensions as an ideal, but I think this is a very important service that's going to get used by more and more extensions, so having the internal notification infrastructure be optional\/separate is more awkward than clean.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAny open questions on the implementation plan?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_190\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/e53hvsnnl4n56tg6w5hv\/PHID-FILE-wk7lhnrpkqbl5ffuvzps\/profile-Jack_200.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Florian\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/3\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_188\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_189\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077536\" id=\"2077536\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_187\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Florian\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003eFlorian\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077536\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 9:53 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 21:53:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_184\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_185\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eLike Legoktm said: Notifications are integral in the workflow of an editor and reader, too. Having the possibility to get notified about several things about content I (as a user) somehow interacted with is an important feature. To have an interface for extensions to deliver such information into a centralised and standardised notification panel is even more important: no one want to have multiple places where he get's different types of notifications (and probably only this type). Having this interface in core makes sense to kill problems lego already mentioned: unneeded checks if an extension is installed or hooks for the interface to somehow replace\/extend existing features.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA big +1 from me and thanks to lego bringing this up! :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_194\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/e53hvsnnl4n56tg6w5hv\/PHID-FILE-wk7lhnrpkqbl5ffuvzps\/profile-Jack_200.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Florian\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077537\" id=\"2077537\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_192\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_193\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Florian\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003eFlorian\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077537\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 9:53 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 21:53:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_206\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p2jvmcdsbef3436hkcf6\/PHID-FILE-b6vmtimun4dtm56lypjx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/3\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_204\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_205\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077627\" id=\"2077627\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_203\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003eKrenair\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077627\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_202\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 10:02 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 22:02:26 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_201\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis has my +1 in general. I'm not sure about the idea of leaving some stuff behind in Echo - certainly some code in Echo should not go to core (e.g. mention notification code), but I don't like extensions sitting around for historical reasons.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_216\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077680\" id=\"2077680\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_214\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/librarization\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003eLibrarization\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077680\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_213\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 10:09 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 22:09:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_215\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_211\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_212\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2077518\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2077518\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@brion\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSounds good! I usually like a clean core w\/ most stuff in extensions as an ideal, but I think this is a very important service that's going to get used by more and more extensions, so having the internal notification infrastructure be optional\/separate is more awkward than clean.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAny open questions on the implementation plan?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis seems like a good opportunity to make sure we do this in a way that we have a cleanly modularized infrastructure (ala \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/librarization\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-blue phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-briefcase\" data-meta=\"0_4\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eLibrarization\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_225\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5q634gh5s6xlnedxmkxs\/PHID-FILE-ovwadxcq2s3mmaonkqdc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077688\" id=\"2077688\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_224\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077688\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_223\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 10:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 22:11:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_221\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_222\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlways worth checking. :) Any particular candidates for a split-out to libs?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_229\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p2jvmcdsbef3436hkcf6\/PHID-FILE-b6vmtimun4dtm56lypjx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2077692\" id=\"2077692\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_227\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_228\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003eKrenair\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2077692\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_226\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 1 2016, 10:12 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-01 22:12:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_238\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view 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handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2078690\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_236\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 2:41 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 02:41:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_235\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWhich version of MediaWiki is this targeted for?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI mostly agree with Krenair: I think the general idea is fine, but I'm hesitant about retaining a separate Echo extension after a merge.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy current view is that we should do a full merge of the extension. What's the argument against putting everything in Echo in core? Are there really wikis that want notifications, but don't want user mentions? For "thank-you-edit", maybe put that in the Thanks extension? :-)  That leaves "a page you created has been linked to" ("page-linked"), which I'm not sure anybody actually wants to maintain\/support, so that feature might just get killed altogether.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy arguments against a separate extension:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eIt seems to be very few features\/not much code that we're talking about.\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eExtension setup isn't exactly small in terms of lines of configuration, localization, extra files, etc.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThis would be a huge shift in what "installing the Echo extension" means, which will invariably create some confusion when users go to install the extension, after finding the appropriate version of the extension for their installation of MediaWiki.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWe have to maintain a backward-compatibility layer of some kind in the extension.\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWould we have to do this in core as well? What are we talking about here? Deprecation warnings on a few functions\/entry points?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_251\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/de7rnuucgwsa2u5ow7bn\/PHID-FILE-towcvgcmdefffz27aphc\/profile-gravatar.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Catrope\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_247\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_248\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/5\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_249\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_250\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2078722\" id=\"2078722\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_246\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Catrope\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003eCatrope\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2078722\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_245\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 2:55 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 02:55:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_243\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_244\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOn the RFC generally, +1.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2078689\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2078689\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@MZMcBride\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThat leaves "a page you created has been linked to" ("page-linked"), which I'm not sure anybody actually wants to maintain\/support, so that feature might just get killed altogether.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAt least one person complained when it broke over the holidays ;) \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications#.22Page_link.22_notifications_.2F_alerts\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications#.22Page_link.22_notifications_.2F_alerts\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMy arguments against a separate extension:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eIt seems to be very few features\/not much code that we're talking about.\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eExtension setup isn't exactly small in terms of lines of configuration, localization, extra files, etc.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree with this though: I don't think it makes too much sense to keep a separate extension around if it's that small. If it contains actual functionality that is; I would recommend keeping the extension around for b\/c code (see below).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWe have to maintain a backward-compatibility layer of some kind in the extension.\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWould we have to do this in core as well? What are we talking about here? Deprecation warnings on a few functions\/entry points?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think we would have to keep entry points like \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eEchoEvent::create()\u003c\/tt\u003e around, as well as registration interfaces like \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e$wgEchoNotifications\u003c\/tt\u003e. That doesn't have to live in the Echo extension, though, it could live in core. However, I think there's a good argument for keeping it in the Echo extension: any code trying to use it will definitely depend on Echo, so it's not too surprising that you have to install Echo in order for an old extension to work (since that was already the case before), and it allows us to keep the b\/c stuff out of core, which also makes it easier to keep it around for a longer period of time (there won't be any pressure to remove it by 1.NN if it lives in an obsolete extension).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: 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class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2078886\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_258\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 7:05 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 07:05:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_256\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_257\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e+1, notifications are a must have for any serious social software.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI wonder if the email logic in core could be merged with notifications.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_264\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sxio75lvskgzqg4c2rpg\/PHID-FILE-eke2ppzomhla35r4wckk\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/fbstj\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2079153\" id=\"2079153\" 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(UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_267\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/pq7vterbwsmyma6ihabg\/PHID-FILE-fpgfllem65xsqajynhdw\/profile-8582355.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Glaisher\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2079199\" id=\"2079199\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_266\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Glaisher\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003eGlaisher\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2079199\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_265\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 9:44 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 09:44:48 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction 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phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003ePaladox\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2079274\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_268\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 10:23 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 10:23:42 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_279\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/yylm6ryl4fou2honnhxf\/PHID-FILE-fk65uy3t4xsbhfqzo3ew\/profile-10622909_10152249591556697_1835323827866737317_n.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/SBisson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2079523\" id=\"2079523\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_278\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/SBisson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003eSBisson\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2079523\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_277\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 11:58 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 11:58:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_276\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCould we clarify the problem section?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eBeing in an extension, Echo has to use ugly hooks to suppress some core features and has generally weird interactions with some things.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm sure there's valuable information hidden behind this vague and subjective statement. What makes these hooks ugly, which core features they are suppressing, how weird are the interactions and with which things?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eextensions that wish to use it have to do conditional checks every time they'd like to trigger a notifications.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eRight.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eEcho is a reserved word in PHP, preventing us from using it as the namespace for a PHP class. ;-)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNamespace decision has nothing to do with Core vs. Extension ;-)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_282\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c5mll4i2ivmjlggdpizk\/PHID-FILE-x2xqxc36bpfpfub7m6rd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2079643\" id=\"2079643\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_281\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e added a parent task: \u003ca href=\"\/T28751\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003eT28751: Extensions that should really be core functionality (tracking)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2079643\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_280\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 12:42 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 12:42:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_287\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ms665yc73j6nadjitytk\/PHID-FILE-mocohumlrcbe2lcuplml\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2079983\" id=\"2079983\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_284\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_285\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2079983\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_283\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 3:30 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 15:30:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_286\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Anomie\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003eAnomie\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_290\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpv23ylmg4lfeb2wa4a6\/PHID-FILE-ysgblokpidaco52exifh\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MGChecker\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2080159\" id=\"2080159\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_289\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MGChecker\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003eMGChecker\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2080159\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_288\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 4:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 16:14:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_299\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/56zbzcroo7msdftfgxbi\/PHID-FILE-w6eqlpokawu7gkm3faia\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_B.png-_3c5da0-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2081732\" id=\"2081732\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_298\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003eBawolff\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2081732\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_297\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 9:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 21:34:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_295\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_296\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI like this. Echo has become a critical feature of any wiki.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOne concern I have - And maybe this isn't something that should be related to the RFC. I've noticed that there seems to be some confusion about how echo interacts with anon users, and if the current lack of echo for anons is ideal. Maybe it should be clarified what we want to do in that regard before merging into core (I'm not saying it should be fixed, just that we should know where we want to go with that in the future). Or maybe I'm wrong on that account. I don't really follow echo development very closely.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_303\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/56zbzcroo7msdftfgxbi\/PHID-FILE-w6eqlpokawu7gkm3faia\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_B.png-_3c5da0-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2081735\" id=\"2081735\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_301\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_302\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003eBawolff\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2081735\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_300\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 9:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 21:34:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_307\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2081737\" id=\"2081737\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_305\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e assigned this task to \u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2081737\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_304\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 9:35 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 21:35:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_306\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003eP1: Define\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003eUnder discussion\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_316\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5q634gh5s6xlnedxmkxs\/PHID-FILE-ovwadxcq2s3mmaonkqdc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2081773\" id=\"2081773\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_315\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2081773\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_314\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 9:41 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 21:41:44 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_312\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_313\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eQuick notes per discussion in archcom:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003egeneral agreement to move forward & put into discussion for approval; \u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@brion\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e will be shepherd on this\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eopen question needs decision: should a few bits remain in an extension? or just move 100% into core?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eopen question needs clarification: define the problems of the hook interfaces to refine the problem statement a bit and make sure we don't regress\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eI think we want to explicitly confirm that \u003ca href=\"\/T128352\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128352\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is out of scope here and should be discussed later, as that'll be an 'epic'-class bug.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_325\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5q634gh5s6xlnedxmkxs\/PHID-FILE-ovwadxcq2s3mmaonkqdc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2081808\" id=\"2081808\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_324\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2081808\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_323\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 9:46 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 21:46:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_321\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_322\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2081731\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2081731\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Bawolff\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI like this. Echo has become a critical feature of any wiki.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYay!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOne concern I have - And maybe this isn't something that should be related to the RFC. I've noticed that there seems to be some confusion about how echo interacts with anon users, and if the current lack of echo for anons is ideal. Maybe it should be clarified what we want to do in that regard before merging into core (I'm not saying it should be fixed, just that we should know where we want to go with that in the future). Or maybe I'm wrong on that account. I don't really follow echo development very closely.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e*nod*... \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Bawolff\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e can you file a separate task and we'll discuss further on that, maybe develop it into an RfC or smaller work plan in future.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_329\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c53xas6aq43xq3g4dbzo\/PHID-FILE-ms7i3aeh73vkc54rjedj\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Luke081515\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2081822\" id=\"2081822\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_327\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_328\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Luke081515\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003eLuke081515\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2081822\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_326\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 9:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 21:55:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_338\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/56zbzcroo7msdftfgxbi\/PHID-FILE-w6eqlpokawu7gkm3faia\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_B.png-_3c5da0-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2081996\" id=\"2081996\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_337\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003eBawolff\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T128663\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003eT128663: The future of echo notifications for Anons\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2081996\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_336\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 10:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 22:33:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_334\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_335\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2081808\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2081808\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@brion\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2081731\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2081731\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Bawolff\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI like this. Echo has become a critical feature of any wiki.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYay!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOne concern I have - And maybe this isn't something that should be related to the RFC. I've noticed that there seems to be some confusion about how echo interacts with anon users, and if the current lack of echo for anons is ideal. Maybe it should be clarified what we want to do in that regard before merging into core (I'm not saying it should be fixed, just that we should know where we want to go with that in the future). Or maybe I'm wrong on that account. I don't really follow echo development very closely.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e*nod*... \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Bawolff\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e can you file a separate task and we'll discuss further on that, maybe develop it into an RfC or smaller work plan in future.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSubmitted as \u003ca href=\"\/T128663\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128663\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_347\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5q634gh5s6xlnedxmkxs\/PHID-FILE-ovwadxcq2s3mmaonkqdc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2082193\" id=\"2082193\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_346\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2082193\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_345\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2016, 11:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-02 23:14:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_343\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_344\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOk the anon issue got duped to \u003ca href=\"\/T58828\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT58828\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e per legoktm; turns out we already have an old task in the system for this topic. :D\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_350\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bpdxnomcsaeqkygp4czj\/PHID-FILE-iuh7qwg3bmgvfhkfjjln\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/SamanthaNguyen\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2083116\" id=\"2083116\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_349\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/SamanthaNguyen\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003eSamanthaNguyen\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2083116\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_348\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 3 2016, 3:20 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-03 03:20:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_361\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_359\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_360\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2085732\" id=\"2085732\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_358\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_107\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2085732\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_357\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 3 2016, 7:57 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-03 19:57:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_355\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_356\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2077688\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2077688\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@brion\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlways worth checking. :) Any particular candidates for a split-out to libs?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOff the top of my head, not really. Nearly all notifications have to be aware of the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eUser\u003c\/tt\u003e they're for, and the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eTitle\u003c\/tt\u003e they're about, introducing hard dependencies upon MW. That said, we should make sure we have clean interfaces and proper separation like the difference between \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eEchoEvent\u003c\/tt\u003e (model) and \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eEchoEventMapper\u003c\/tt\u003e (database logic).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2078689\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2078689\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@MZMcBride\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWhich version of MediaWiki is this targeted for?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNone in particular, whenever I or someone else has time to do it :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI mostly agree with Krenair: I think the general idea is fine, but I'm hesitant about retaining a separate Echo extension after a merge.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy current view is that we should do a full merge of the extension. What's the argument against putting everything in Echo in core? Are there really wikis that want notifications, but don't want user mentions? For "thank-you-edit", maybe put that in the Thanks extension? :-)  That leaves "a page you created has been linked to" ("page-linked"), which I'm not sure anybody actually wants to maintain\/support, so that feature might just get killed altogether.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis seems fine to me as well. My main objection is the code that implements mentions kind of sucks (\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/bash\/quip\/AU7VVyPV6snAnmqnK_0N\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehas an alternative parser and all that\u003c\/a\u003e), and a little less so for page-linked notifs.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWe have to maintain a backward-compatibility layer of some kind in the extension.\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWould we have to do this in core as well? What are we talking about here? Deprecation warnings on a few functions\/entry points?\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhen moving it to core, I was planning to rename all the "Echo" references to "Notifications", so \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eEchoEvent\u003c\/tt\u003e -> \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eMediaWiki\\Notifications\\Event\u003c\/tt\u003e or something. Plus all of the global settings and more stuff. We would want some kind of back-compat layer for all of that, and it could go in core yes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(more responses to come later)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_370\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2086827\" id=\"2086827\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_369\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_109\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2086827\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_368\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 3 2016, 11:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-03 23:38:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_366\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_367\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2085732\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2085732\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Legoktm\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis seems fine to me as well. My main objection is the code that implements mentions kind of sucks (\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/bash\/quip\/AU7VVyPV6snAnmqnK_0N\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehas an alternative parser and all that\u003c\/a\u003e), and a little less so for page-linked notifs.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI see no reason to get rid of page-linked.  They are a motivating factor for article creation (which is important to counteract the demotivating factors).  However, it would be useful to have a way to control which pages it triggered on.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_373\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/myddkk65ayu6zrphr37o\/PHID-FILE-nmzwbv5k56wl4j7oqv5b\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Izno\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2088711\" id=\"2088711\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_372\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Izno\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_111\"\u003eIzno\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2088711\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_371\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 4 2016, 4:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-04 16:34:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view 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aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_112\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2089039\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_374\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 4 2016, 5:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-04 17:55:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_379\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2089972\" id=\"2089972\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_378\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003eQuiddity\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T110604\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003eT110604: [Story] Notification: Add notification when page is being connected to Wikidata\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2089972\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_377\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 4 2016, 9:30 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-04 21:30:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_388\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/yhqlu46f2mwg3a36ko6l\/PHID-FILE-bt6k3djtpehl3zkk7zzg\/profile-merge.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2091630\" id=\"2091630\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_387\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003eRicordisamoa\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2091630\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 5 2016, 7:58 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-05 19:58:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eLet me express some concerns here.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAs a user, I'd be very disappointed if the Echo system were made part of core as it is now. In my opinion, Echo was a good stopgap to improve collaboration but the whole system is in need of a redesign.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_392\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/yhqlu46f2mwg3a36ko6l\/PHID-FILE-bt6k3djtpehl3zkk7zzg\/profile-merge.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2091632\" id=\"2091632\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_390\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-2 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_391\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003eRicordisamoa\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2091632\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_389\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 5 2016, 7:59 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-05 19:59:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_401\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5q634gh5s6xlnedxmkxs\/PHID-FILE-ovwadxcq2s3mmaonkqdc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2091658\" id=\"2091658\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_400\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/brion\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brion\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2091658\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_399\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 5 2016, 8:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-05 20:13:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_397\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_398\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2091630\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2091630\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Ricordisamoa\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eLet me express some concerns here.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAs a user, I'd be very disappointed if the Echo system were made part of core as it is now. In my opinion, Echo was a good stopgap to improve collaboration but the whole system is in need of a redesign.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCan you elaborate?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_404\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2093318\" id=\"2093318\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_403\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/E147\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003eE147: RFC Meeting: (part 1) Notifications in core (part 2) define an official thumb API (2016-03-09, #wikimedia-office)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2093318\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_402\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 6 2016, 11:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-06 23:34:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_407\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2093362\" id=\"2093362\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_406\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003eUnder discussion\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/52\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003eRequest IRC meeting\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/techcom-rfc\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003eTechCom-RFC\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2093362\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_405\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 7 2016, 3:33 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-07 03:33:05 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_416\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2093392\" id=\"2093392\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_415\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2093392\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_414\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 7 2016, 4:08 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-07 04:08:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_412\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_413\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe plan to discuss this in \u003ca href=\"\/E147\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eE147: RFC Meeting: (part 1) Notifications in core (part 2) define an official thumb API (2016-03-09, #wikimedia-office)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_420\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/v5wmnfiaelrd6nztxd3a\/PHID-FILE-s57znldbv3qchtewuryd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2093951\" id=\"2093951\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_418\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-wmf-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_419\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/daniel\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003edaniel\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2093951\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_417\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 7 2016, 11:25 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-07 11:25:33 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_423\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2094590\" id=\"2094590\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_422\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2094590\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_421\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 7 2016, 3:59 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-07 15:59:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_435\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_433\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_434\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2104701\" id=\"2104701\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_432\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2104701\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_431\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 9 2016, 9:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-09 21:24:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_429\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_430\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTL;DR:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eProvide base classes and interfaces\u003c\/strong\u003e in MediaWiki core: PHP interfaces for event creation, notification backend and notification handler. As well as an API module.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eBundle Echo extension with tarball releases\u003c\/strong\u003e.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree with \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Ricordisamoa\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e that Echo's current user interface and database model should not become a mandatory user-facing feature of MediaWiki core.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe PHP interfaces for creating and capturing event should be in MediaWiki core so that extensions can cleanly interact with it. However I think it would be beneficial in the long-term if they are a no-op by default (e.g. $wgNotificationHandler=false, or $wgNotificationBackend=false). Similar to RCFeedEngine perhaps.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe AP module I to retrieve notifications could also be in core (perhaps auto-enabled if there is backend it set, or returns a a warning with empty results if no backend set).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs a next step we can also start bundling Echo with core for tarball releases. Remember that right now Echo is not bundled with tarballs. As such it is in my opinion still relatively unexposed to the wider MediaWIki development community. This will help uncover any further issues in the next release cycle whilst still allowing sysadmins to easily opt-out by unregistering the extension. Or they could work on porting any existing systems they have to use these interfaces (I believe WikiHow and Wikia may have their own extensions already).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEcho would continue to exist as an extension and act as event creator (e.g. for mentions), as well as notification backend (db table) and handler (user interface).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe event creation part could probably also be moved into MediaWiki core in a generic way.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_444\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2104841\" id=\"2104841\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_443\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2104841\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_442\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 9 2016, 9:53 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-09 21:53:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_440\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_441\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2104701\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2104701\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Krinkle\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTL;DR:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eProvide base classes and interfaces\u003c\/strong\u003e in MediaWiki core: PHP interfaces for event creation, notification backend and notification handler. As well as an API module.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eBundle Echo extension with tarball releases\u003c\/strong\u003e.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree with \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Ricordisamoa\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e that Echo's current user interface and database model should not become a mandatory user-facing feature of MediaWiki core.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe PHP interfaces for creating and capturing event should be in MediaWiki core so that extensions can cleanly interact with it. However I think it would be beneficial in the long-term if they are a no-op by default (e.g. $wgNotificationHandler=false, or $wgNotificationBackend=false). Similar to RCFeedEngine perhaps.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe AP module I to retrieve notifications could also be in core (perhaps auto-enabled if there is backend it set, or returns a a warning with empty results if no backend set).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs a next step we can also start bundling Echo with core for tarball releases. Remember that right now Echo is not bundled with tarballs. As such it is in my opinion still relatively unexposed to the wider MediaWIki development community. This will help uncover any further issues in the next release cycle whilst still allowing sysadmins to easily opt-out by unregistering the extension. Or they could work on porting any existing systems they have to use these interfaces (I believe WikiHow and Wikia may have their own extensions already).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEcho would continue to exist as an extension and act as event creator (e.g. for mentions), as well as notification backend (db table) and handler (user interface).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf Echo continues to act as event creator, how is the issue of Echo replacing core notifications addressed?  E.g. Echo has its own notifications (regular and email) it creates for user talk edits.  If Echo is turned on and 'edit-user-talk' is enabled, it takes over the user talk email notification with AbortTalkPageEmailNotification.  I think this one of the hooks \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Legoktm\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is referring to in the description.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf Echo is not part of core, I can think of three options:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCore doesn't send this notification at all if neither Echo nor another $wgNotificationHandler backend is installed.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCore has its own simple $wgNotificationHandler for such cases.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eIt basically works as it does now, and extensions like Echo have to keep doing this hooking.  That removes what I think is the primary motivation for this RFC (a way to clean up this duplicate functionality).  Checking for Echo being installed is easy to centralize in each extension, so it's not a big issue.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe'll have to discuss the pros and cons of making it pluggable.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_455\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_453\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_454\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2104858\" id=\"2104858\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_452\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2104858\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_451\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 9 2016, 9:57 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-09 21:57:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_449\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_450\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_135\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T128351#2104701\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT128351#2104701\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Krinkle\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTL;DR:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eProvide base classes and interfaces\u003c\/strong\u003e in MediaWiki core: PHP interfaces for event creation, notification backend and notification handler. As well as an API module.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eBundle Echo extension with tarball releases\u003c\/strong\u003e.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree with \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ricordisamoa\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Ricordisamoa\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e that Echo's current user interface and database model should not become a mandatory user-facing feature of MediaWiki core.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe PHP interfaces for creating and capturing event should be in MediaWiki core so that extensions can cleanly interact with it. However I think it would be beneficial in the long-term if they are a no-op by default (e.g. $wgNotificationHandler=false, or $wgNotificationBackend=false). Similar to RCFeedEngine perhaps.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat seems like abstraction for the sake of abstraction, and I don't see it as an advantage. Why do you think it would be beneficial? RCFeedEngine comes with actual implementations in core that are usable and configurable with just MediaWiki core. As other people have expressed on this ticket, notifications have become an integral part of how MW works, and making individual wikis install extra things or need extra config is a step in the wrong direction IMO.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs a next step we can also start bundling Echo with core for tarball releases. Remember that right now Echo is not bundled with tarballs. As such it is in my opinion still relatively unexposed to the wider MediaWIki development community. This will help uncover any further issues in the next release cycle whilst still allowing sysadmins to easily opt-out by unregistering the extension. Or they could work on porting any existing systems they have to use these interfaces (I believe WikiHow and Wikia may have their own extensions already).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePer \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/wikiapiary.com\/wiki\/Extension:Echo\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/wikiapiary.com\/wiki\/Extension:Echo\u003c\/a\u003e, about 40% of the wikis using the extension are not Wikimedia wikis. wikiHow uses a modified version of Echo, and I wouldn't call what Wikia runs MediaWiki anymore. I have no objections to bundling it in the tarball prior to merging it into core 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