for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-yellow\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514617\" id=\"1514617\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_86\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514617\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 3:07 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 15:07:44 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-yellow\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-up phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_87\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e raised the priority of this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eNeeds Triage\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_88\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-aojma675subhvy3\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_89\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/notifications\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003eNotifications\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_90\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e DannyH\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003eQuiddity\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514624\" id=\"1514624\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_93\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_24\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/collaboration-team-triage\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003eCollaboration-Team-Triage\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/866827\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514624\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 3:07 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 15:07:44 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_94\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_27\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/866827\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514663\" id=\"1514663\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_97\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-7mvcgwflfsejm2g\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514663\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 3:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 15:13:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_98\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e set Security to None.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514669\" id=\"1514669\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_107\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514669\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 3:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 15:16:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_105\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI recall some former exploration about having completely separate badges for different kind of notifications. It would be great to find the corresponding Phabricator tickets to get more information about the rationale of those designs.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOne of the ideas I explored in that direction was about reusing the current "Talk" link to anchor the badge for messages in the same way the user name anchors the "alerts" (which are connected with the user):\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/isv4psckwjvmfdzux5wq\/PHID-FILE-jc7kuvr3hdmemqzjnsjh\/separate-counters.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/cgbwkrzoxzccey3gqddr\/PHID-FILE-lfk3zkb43m7f6xit3uod\/preview-separate-counters.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"124.78125\" alt=\"separate-counters.png (726\u00d71 px, 490 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/t3sdqk6qfekhzlpnds54\/PHID-FILE-t7vazif74siexuxb65gd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/20\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_118\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/16\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-graduation-cap\" data-meta=\"0_120\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514691\" id=\"1514691\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_116\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003eQEDK\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514691\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 3:26 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 15:26:52 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_114\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCan we change the color coding?\u003cbr \/\u003e\nLike, red for alerts, while a milder color for messages. This would attract attention to them.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nWhite "0" in gray box when no notifications.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nBlue box when only messages.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nRed box when alerts and\/or messages.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514862\" id=\"1514862\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_123\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T106033\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003eT106033: "You have new messages" stuck (until page reload) after all messages are 'Mark as read'\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514862\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 4:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 16:24:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514902\" id=\"1514902\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_132\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514902\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 4:37 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 16:37:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_130\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T108190#1514691\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT108190#1514691\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@Ankit-Maity\u003c\/span\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCan we change the color coding?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI discarded the idea initially because:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eKeeping a single entry point means that message notifications would have a different color depending on whether they are presented alone or together with alerts.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eEven though color a color scheme makes sense, this is a very transient experience where users experience a single state at a time so it may not be intuitive to grasp what the colors try to convey.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHaving said that, color can be an effective way to convey information so I'm totally open to explore some more options.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1514923\" id=\"1514923\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_141\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1514923\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 4:40 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 16:40:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_139\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eBased on a discussion on \u003ca href=\"\/T106033\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT106033\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, it may be worth considering integrating the scenarios that the orange "you have new messages" bar tries to solve in order to have a more consistent solution:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gb6rprgfuxoncbapsuoz\/PHID-FILE-33455z6swdwueewpnyhg\/Screen_Shot_2015-07-15_at_4.31.52_PM.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ejywv7rqi5atedbjwnvn\/PHID-FILE-wz4fh7py55hbeklnh4d6\/preview-Screen_Shot_2015-07-15_at_4.31.52_PM.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"104.07830342577\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2015-07-15 at 4.31.52 PM.png (580\u00d71 px, 117 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm assuming that the purpose of the orange bar is to highlight when there are messages that are directly addressed to you (messages in your talk page). Thus, the priority levels we may want to distinguish may be three: (1) alerts, (2) direct messages and (3) other messages.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDoes this sound correct?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_146\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1515281\" id=\"1515281\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_144\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T100528\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003eT100528: Improve organization and control for Flow notifications (tracking + ideas)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1515281\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_143\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 5:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 17:45:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_145\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T108208\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003eT108208: Measure the user responsiveness to notifications over time\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_155\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1515427\" id=\"1515427\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_154\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1515427\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 6:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 18:48:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_152\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T108190#1514923\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT108190#1514923\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Pginer-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm assuming that the purpose of the orange bar is to highlight when there are messages that are directly addressed to you (messages in your talk page). Thus, the priority levels we may want to distinguish may be three: (1) alerts, (2) direct messages and (3) other messages.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCurrently, the orange bar represents only posts on your user talk page (which are not considered 'Messages' in the current Echo terminology, but rather a particular kind of 'Alert'). The reason the orange bar is so prominent is partly for legacy reasons. Indeed, direct posts on your user talk page are important, (and maybe worth their own priority level) but it's worth asking whether they're much more important than e.g. mentions (or maybe certain other types).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_164\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6yspneexqec26wwijww2\/PHID-FILE-vaywx6w3u3au3j6wk5su\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1516027\" id=\"1516027\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_163\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e DannyH\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1516027\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 9:00 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 21:00:53 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_161\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI thought that we would separate the panels, and have two dropdowns -- Alerts and Messages. I think that would help people understand the distinction better.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe purpose of separating the two kinds of notifications is to help experienced users develop a habit that they can count on -- when they see a notification flag at the top of the page, they can easily tell whether it's alerts or messages, and make a decision about whether to check it or not. If the two badges could appear interchangeably in the same spot, then it might be harder to develop that "corner of your eye" habit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe'll also need to keep access to both kinds of notifications persistent, so that people can see their old notifications.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor people who have never received a Messages notification, we won't display that icon\/badge -- this is what we currently do with the link to the Messages panel in the dropdown. Other than that, I think we need to show it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_173\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1516253\" id=\"1516253\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_172\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003eQuiddity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1516253\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_171\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 9:50 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 21:50:26 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_170\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e+1 to two separate panels\/dropdowns. Otherwise editors still have to click twice, to see their new Flow messages, if they also have alerts.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe full list of Echo Notification Types, is well-worth re-reading, and I think it would be good to consider whether further splitting apart any of these types would be at all useful.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Echo_%28Notifications%29\/Feature_requirements#Notification_Categories\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Echo_%28Notifications%29\/Feature_requirements#Notification_Categories\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n(plus more details in the sub-sections above and below)\u003cbr \/\u003e\nParticularly so that even wikis\/editors without Flow interaction, can benefit from the increased clarity and triage-potential of the incoming notifications.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePossibly we could group together the various "interaction\/communication" types, as distinct from the plain "information" types. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nOr some other combination\/bucketing classification.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDo we have any statistics on what quantities of each notification type, are sent out, at various wikis?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_182\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6yspneexqec26wwijww2\/PHID-FILE-vaywx6w3u3au3j6wk5su\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1516350\" id=\"1516350\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_181\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e DannyH\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1516350\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_180\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 10:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 22:15:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_178\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_179\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSplitting Echo notifications further is out of scope for this ticket. Anything related to the "orange bar" notification is also out of scope.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe need a clear distinction that will help increase user acceptance of Flow among experienced users on opt-in-enabled wikis.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6yspneexqec26wwijww2\/PHID-FILE-vaywx6w3u3au3j6wk5su\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1516353\" id=\"1516353\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-right phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_184\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e DannyH\u003c\/a\u003e triaged this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eHigh\u003c\/span\u003e priority.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1516353\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 6 2015, 10:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-06 22:15:26 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_185\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e DannyH\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/65\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003eUntriaged\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/65\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003eProduct\/Design Work\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/collaboration-team-triage\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003eCollaboration-Team-Triage\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_199\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/t3sdqk6qfekhzlpnds54\/PHID-FILE-t7vazif74siexuxb65gd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/20\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_196\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/16\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_197\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-graduation-cap\" data-meta=\"0_198\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1517346\" id=\"1517346\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_194\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003eQEDK\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1517346\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_193\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 8:30 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 08:30:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_192\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI wouldn't mind ditching the orange bar if it's integrated into the badge. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nAlso, how about we just have an unified badge and then the messages and alerts are color-coded accordingly after we click on that badge.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nLike, black text with a red or blue background.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nOnce read, it'd change to a white background.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThe unified badge would be color-coded based on the type of notifications (blue if messages, red if alerts and\/or messages) and the no. should be set to the total number.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_208\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1517579\" id=\"1517579\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_207\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1517579\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_206\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 10:16 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 10:16:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_204\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_205\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI thought that we would separate the panels, and have two dropdowns -- Alerts and Messages. I think that would help people understand the distinction better.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI thought splitting the panel itself was not considered for now, I added one example (\u003ca href=\"\/T108190#1514669\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT108190#1514669\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) but this is definitely worth exploring further.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree that separating the badges helps separating both concepts more clearly, especially when the badge becomes active, but it also has the inconvenient of requiring a dedicated space even when there are no relevant notifications for many users.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith the combined model there is always an access to all notifications that is less prominent (just the "0" badge) when there is nothing new, and it is more prominent (badge with 2 icons and numbers ) when there are different kinds of notifications available. Since your comments are mainly about a different solution (the split model), it is not very clear to me the issues with the combined model, is it that advanced users (which we assume have always a backlog of unread messages) will not notice easily when a new alert arrives?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e+1 to two separate panels\/dropdowns. Otherwise editors still have to click twice, to see their new Flow messages, if they also have alerts.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI was assuming alerts would read first because (a) of priority and (b) alerts are marked as read as soon as the panel is opened which means that when there are alerts and messages the messages are more likely to have already been there before the last time the panel was open but the alerts are not. Thus, it seems likely that the user access the panel for the alerts in that case. However, it is true that for those cases where the former assumption is not true, getting your alerts to be marked as read when you wanted to read some messages can be problematic (later is not as obvious which are the new alerts, although chronological order helps).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ePossibly we could group together the various "interaction\/communication" types, as distinct from the plain "information" types.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe can use the different notification types as examples but taking into account that this is an extensible system where more types will appear. I think the important part is to have a very clear definition of the categories. At the moment, I understand "alerts" as events very closely connected with the user (actions that someone addresses directly to the user or that happen to content created by the user, they inform about a specific event and you don' need reading more to know what happened) while "messages" represent subscriptions to information of interest for the user (currently in the form of conversations).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlso, how about we just have an unified badge and then the messages and alerts are color-coded accordingly after we click on that badge.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn order to better understand the proposal, I'd like to hear about the issues you trying to solve. What advantages do you expect to have a unified list where all notifications are presented and can be distinguished by type?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy understanding is that alerts are more atomic units of information, and this is the reason they are automatically marked as read, while messages need action by the user (only marked as read when clicked). With a unified list, it would be hard to support both patterns.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1517727\" id=\"1517727\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_210\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T108208\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003eT108208: Measure the user responsiveness to notifications over time\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1517727\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_209\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 11:52 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 11:52:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_211\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e removed a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T100528\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003eT100528: Improve organization and control for Flow notifications (tracking + ideas)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_215\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1517740\" id=\"1517740\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_214\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-ktthqnoiw6h5slp\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1517740\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_213\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 12:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 12:13:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_224\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1517784\" id=\"1517784\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_223\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1517784\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_222\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 12:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 12:24:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_220\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_221\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI added in the ticket description a proposal based on the idea of separating further the concepts of alerts and notifications:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/3uj3im5n2qlibdi5qlvm\/PHID-FILE-m53fanu254gv4xmotw6v\/separate-notifs-both.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/myn26a2zn6dj7u3fcuiz\/PHID-FILE-pauyrgdyyhxwwzzbmlnf\/preview-separate-notifs-both.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"124.78125\" alt=\"separate-notifs-both.png (726\u00d71 px, 491 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt has the advantage of providing a persistent place to go and allowing to surface each type of notification at a different prominence level. It has the drawback of increasing the complexity of the personal toolbar even for users with their alerts and messages read. Some testing with users can help to confirm the weight of each.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere are still some aspects to explore:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eHow is the notification panel affected? To reinforce the concepts we can include the corresponding icon in the panel header.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWhere to show the "You have new messages" orange bar? It represents a subset of the alerts but it is about messages so it is not clear next to which of both badges it may make more sense. Also having the badges together help to reinforce their meaning so I'm more inclined initially to show the bar after both of them.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_227\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/sz5c2ymwsti7lllv37fb\/PHID-FILE-nw6x4whb5r5kwvduhbar\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1517819\" id=\"1517819\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_226\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003ePginer-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-mm4phcph3ydv7d4\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1517819\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_225\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 12:46 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 12:46:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_238\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_236\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_237\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1519693\" id=\"1519693\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_235\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1519693\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 9:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 21:16:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_232\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_233\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eYES YES YES to splitting the flyouts.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis will also result in us moving the edit-user-talk notification to messages right?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eDon't show any qualifier when there are zero notifications. To keep things simpler and draw attention where there is something to pay attention to, we should not show zero notifications of a given kind. That is, if there are not unread notifications of any kind, we should just show the "0" badge without any icon. If there are no alerts but there are messages, only the message notifications are represented.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHow are people supposed to view their already read notifications then?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_241\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1519731\" id=\"1519731\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_240\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T58476\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003eT58476: Echo: Granular icons in the Notifications Badge\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1519731\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_239\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 9:27 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 21:27:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_250\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1520150\" id=\"1520150\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_249\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1520150\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_248\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 7 2015, 11:18 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-07 23:18:32 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_246\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_247\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T108190#1517579\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT108190#1517579\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Pginer-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI thought that we would separate the panels, and have two dropdowns -- Alerts and Messages. I think that would help people understand the distinction better.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI thought splitting the panel itself was not considered for now, I added one example (\u003ca href=\"\/T108190#1514669\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT108190#1514669\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) but this is definitely worth exploring further.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI support splitting the panels fully (separate links, separate flyout). It does take up more personal toolbar space, but I think it's worth it. I particularly like the concept of alerts being more visible (red) but quick to deal with, while messages being a lower-key blue.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T108190#1517784\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT108190#1517784\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pginer-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Pginer-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWhere to show the "You have new messages" orange bar? It represents a subset of the alerts but it is about messages so it is not clear next to which of both badges it may make more sense.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think it should be visually associated with whatever it belongs to. So if edit-user-talk remains an alert, it should be associated with alerts. That said, if it appears in the middle of the two indicators it may be kind of a moot point (since it will be visually associated with both).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_264\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/t3sdqk6qfekhzlpnds54\/PHID-FILE-t7vazif74siexuxb65gd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/20\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_261\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/16\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_262\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-graduation-cap\" data-meta=\"0_263\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1520734\" id=\"1520734\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_259\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003eQEDK\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1520734\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_258\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 8 2015, 3:34 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-08 03:34:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_256\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_257\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis whole ticket is just about us suggesting according to our aesthetic sense and personal work-habits. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nWouldn't it be better to have a wider sample space?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_277\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/t3sdqk6qfekhzlpnds54\/PHID-FILE-t7vazif74siexuxb65gd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/20\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_273\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_274\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/16\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-graduation-cap\" data-meta=\"0_276\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1520737\" id=\"1520737\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_272\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/QEDK\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003eQEDK\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1520737\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_271\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 8 2015, 3:41 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-08 03:41:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_269\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_270\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI think it should be visually associated with whatever it belongs to. So if edit-user-talk remains an alert, it should be associated with alerts. That said, if it appears in the middle of the two indicators it may be kind of a moot point (since it will be visually associated with both).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't want to see it in the middle. It'll be better off as a message, imo.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOn \u003ca href=\"\/T57359\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT57359\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, Technical-13 raised a point which I'd like to be implemented.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'd personally object to changing the color from red for talk page edits and mentions. I'd support using a more neutral color for reversions and a different color for things like page links.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is an excellent idea but harder to implement. Establishing a order of priority for both messages and alerts is a hard task in itself.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_280\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4yym5nutormqbf7h43si\/PHID-FILE-slp3agklngwp5n7ymzls\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Trizek-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1524051\" id=\"1524051\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_279\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Trizek-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003eTrizek-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1524051\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_278\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 10 2015, 2:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-10 14:19:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_289\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6yspneexqec26wwijww2\/PHID-FILE-vaywx6w3u3au3j6wk5su\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1527214\" id=\"1527214\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_288\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/DannyH\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e DannyH\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1527214\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_287\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 11 2015, 1:07 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-11 13:07:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_285\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_286\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI really like the separate red and blue counters, with the separate panels. The orange "new messages" user talk bar can be on the right side of the blue messages bubble.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLet's talk today about how to get some wider user feedback. Getting experienced users' feedback isn't very hard, we can post on Mediawiki and some of the more Flow-aware wikis (Hebrew, Catalan, Wikidata) and get some validation quickly on the approach.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOne thing that I'd like to make sure of is whether the blue badge is eye-catching enough for new users to notice that something's there. I want to be able to get that fairly quickly, but I'm not totally sure how. We'll talk about it today.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_298\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4yym5nutormqbf7h43si\/PHID-FILE-slp3agklngwp5n7ymzls\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Trizek-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"1527222\" id=\"1527222\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_297\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Trizek-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003eTrizek-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1527222\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_296\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 11 2015, 1:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-08-11 13:15:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_294\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_295\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIMHO, the blue counter is not really visible. The historical orange will praise older users and will be very visible. I've also get feedback during workshops with newbies (twice) with the red counter: the believed it was a link to a non-existing page.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSeparate direct messages from alerts and other messages is a very great idea. I have Flow on my volunteer talk page and on pages I watch and I have \u003cem\u003ea lot\u003c\/em\u003e of notifications these past days! :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e"},"javelin_metadata":[{"hovercardSpec":{"objectPHID":"PHID-USER-c47vnc2yxmwfvvc4367q"}},{"phid":"PHID-FILE-jc7kuvr3hdmemqzjnsjh","uri":"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/isv4psckwjvmfdzux5wq\/PHID-FILE-jc7kuvr3hdmemqzjnsjh\/separate-counters.png","dUri":"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/download\/isv4psckwjvmfdzux5wq\/PHID-FILE-jc7kuvr3hdmemqzjnsjh\/separate-counters.png","alt":"separate-counters.png (726\u00d71 px, 490 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