for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/m25d4sm73mzvfxk7efxx\/PHID-FILE-zigk2s47ziyr7hqvpw7v\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236404\" id=\"7236404\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_64\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236404\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:34:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236414\" id=\"7236414\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_67\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_13\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/4349593\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236414\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:34:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/m25d4sm73mzvfxk7efxx\/PHID-FILE-zigk2s47ziyr7hqvpw7v\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236429\" id=\"7236429\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_70\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T287362\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003eT287362: General site outage caused by ruwikinews usage of DPL: "upstream connect error or disconnect\/reset before headers. reset reason: overflow"\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236429\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:34:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/m25d4sm73mzvfxk7efxx\/PHID-FILE-zigk2s47ziyr7hqvpw7v\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236451\" id=\"7236451\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_73\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e added projects: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/dynamicpagelist_wikimedia\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003eDynamicPageList (Wikimedia)\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/sre\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003eSRE\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236451\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:37 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:37:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/wq3jawsqwgcxz76v25ba\/PHID-FILE-fmxl5u6fdfhz672tcxd7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/taavi\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236452\" id=\"7236452\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_76\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/taavi\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003etaavi\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236452\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:38:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c5mll4i2ivmjlggdpizk\/PHID-FILE-x2xqxc36bpfpfub7m6rd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236453\" id=\"7236453\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_79\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/project\/view\/4758\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003eSustainability (Incident Followup)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236453\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:38:52 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_90\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_92\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236461\" id=\"7236461\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_88\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236461\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:42 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:42:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_86\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIIRC, Wikimedia's DPL fork was created as part of the Wikivoyage migration rush because a few of the incoming communities insisted they needed it; some of those extensions have been subsequently worked around and dropped from Wikimedia production, and that's probably the best outcome for DPL too. I appreciate that a couple of wikis have built processes that rely upon it, but I can't see it being remotely justified given the complexity and risk to the wider Wikimedia movement.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jnyj4vttizyw42dy7ic6\/PHID-FILE-pkhxacruaib3y56szthg\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MBH\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236463\" id=\"7236463\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_95\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MBH\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003eMBH\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236463\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:43 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:43:04 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/giz4kiiwghycxmhpfwnm\/PHID-FILE-hoikbdz5d2t6fnwo7yxy\/bbbc81-alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/LSobanski\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236469\" id=\"7236469\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_98\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/LSobanski\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003eLSobanski\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236469\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:44 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:44:46 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2nco5z2tyvhf6dfxheoj\/PHID-FILE-pacxilbspughn725akdz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mark\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236483\" id=\"7236483\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_101\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mark\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003emark\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236483\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:47:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gik3zhqbo7a24indyf2e\/PHID-FILE-tj7xwfiskelcsctcqqkc\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_I.png-_115e41-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/IEPCBM\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236495\" id=\"7236495\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_104\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/IEPCBM\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003eIEPCBM\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236495\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:48:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gik3zhqbo7a24indyf2e\/PHID-FILE-tj7xwfiskelcsctcqqkc\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_I.png-_115e41-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/IEPCBM\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236523\" id=\"7236523\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_113\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/IEPCBM\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003eIEPCBM\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236523\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_112\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 2:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 14:56:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_111\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCan DPL be somehow optimized so as not to load the DB?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/x6fn4twohsiictamz65s\/PHID-FILE-2itdywof6ttpeb6suxa2\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Marostegui\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236534\" id=\"7236534\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_116\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Marostegui\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-partial phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Marostegui\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236534\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 3:06 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 15:06:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/kd7etcvwgd2fqit57v66\/PHID-FILE-vlvmszmv2tutfgnuifru\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ssr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236583\" id=\"7236583\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_119\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ssr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003essr\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236583\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 3:18 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 15:18:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gmb3bohtvy22zzvlaje7\/PHID-FILE-zcwqxhkprdlj5oadwhav\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/6\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rebel\" data-meta=\"0_130\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236598\" id=\"7236598\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_128\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003eReedy\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236598\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 3:23 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 15:23:32 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_126\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T287380#7236461\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT287380#7236461\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdforrester-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIIRC, Wikimedia's DPL fork was created as part of the Wikivoyage migration rush because a few of the incoming communities insisted they needed it; some of those extensions have been subsequently worked around and dropped from Wikimedia production, and that's probably the best outcome for DPL too. I appreciate that a couple of wikis have built processes that rely upon it, but I can't see it being remotely justified given the complexity and risk to the wider Wikimedia movement.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBrion says wikinews - \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Special:Code\/MediaWiki\/7981\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Special:Code\/MediaWiki\/7981\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_144\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_141\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_143\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236629\" id=\"7236629\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_139\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236629\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 3:26 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 15:26:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_137\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T287380#7236598\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT287380#7236598\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Reedy\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T287380#7236461\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT287380#7236461\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdforrester-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIIRC, Wikimedia's DPL fork was created as part of the Wikivoyage migration rush because a few of the incoming communities insisted they needed it; some of those extensions have been subsequently worked around and dropped from Wikimedia production, and that's probably the best outcome for DPL too. I appreciate that a couple of wikis have built processes that rely upon it, but I can't see it being remotely justified given the complexity and risk to the wider Wikimedia movement.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBrion says wikinews - \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Special:Code\/MediaWiki\/7981\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Special:Code\/MediaWiki\/7981\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt turns out I didn't remember correctly. ;-)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_155\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_154\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236632\" id=\"7236632\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_152\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e added subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003eBawolff\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236632\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 3:27 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 15:27:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_149\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_150\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI haven't fully reviewed the incident yet, but my understanding is that our DPL fork isn't as bad as the others, but it still has some issues. Most wikinewses are pretty small, so it doesn't become a bit performance issue, but ruwikinews has rapidly grown in size (congrats!) and is no longer small. I think moving their workflows over to use a bot is the best idea for now, I don't think there are any magical fixes that'll make DPL work.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/l2cg2zimvt2uq6xna6zg\/PHID-FILE-it2g7whiwxxkzdfzans5\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236695\" id=\"7236695\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_157\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-emoji-7 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_158\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003eLucas_Werkmeister_WMDE\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236695\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 3:39 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 15:39:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/myddkk65ayu6zrphr37o\/PHID-FILE-nmzwbv5k56wl4j7oqv5b\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Izno\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236930\" id=\"7236930\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_161\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Izno\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003eIzno\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236930\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 4:29 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 16:29:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hg7ps6fmrrem7raik7y7\/PHID-FILE-n24znlpfcck36hydc7ff\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jbond\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236932\" id=\"7236932\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_164\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jbond\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003ejbond\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236932\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 4:29 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 16:29:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/uc4ecrc5ly44vgm5mxzs\/PHID-FILE-tbvchoujf6attrei5txz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nintendofan885\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7236980\" id=\"7236980\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_167\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nintendofan885\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003eNintendofan885\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7236980\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_166\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 4:50 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 16:50:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_171\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/azrrqxq3bm25ykvd7m5e\/PHID-FILE-onmex3d5rz5uov5fl2di\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krassotkin\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7237142\" id=\"7237142\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_170\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krassotkin\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Krassotkin\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7237142\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 5:43 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 17:43:46 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_174\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/7in5i7j22jezecbaetth\/PHID-FILE-n36covhe4ti6wyqvrnsg\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Michael\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7237151\" id=\"7237151\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_173\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Michael\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003eMichael\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7237151\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 5:46 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 17:46:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Raymond\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7237202\" id=\"7237202\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_176\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Raymond\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003eRaymond\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7237202\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_175\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 6:09 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 18:09:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_180\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/amli3sjhnnezmqlq5wf5\/PHID-FILE-oftbmove2t254w736ki6\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_R.png-_9793bb-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Rubin16\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7237332\" id=\"7237332\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_179\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Rubin16\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003eRubin16\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7237332\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_178\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 6:49 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 18:49:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_189\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/56zbzcroo7msdftfgxbi\/PHID-FILE-w6eqlpokawu7gkm3faia\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_B.png-_3c5da0-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7237516\" id=\"7237516\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_188\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003eBawolff\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7237516\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_187\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 8:00 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 20:00:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_185\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_186\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T287380#7236461\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT287380#7236461\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdforrester-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIIRC, Wikimedia's DPL fork was created as part of the Wikivoyage migration rush because a few of the incoming communities insisted they needed it; some of those extensions have been subsequently worked around and dropped from Wikimedia production, and that's probably the best outcome for DPL too. I appreciate that a couple of wikis have built processes that rely upon it, but I can't see it being remotely justified given the complexity and risk to the wider Wikimedia movement.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFyi, this is incorrect. Wikimedia's dpl is the original version of the extension. It was made specificly for wikinews by contributors to enwikinews  long before wikivoyage was a thing.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree though, its untennable for projects the size of ruwikinews.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_202\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/m25d4sm73mzvfxk7efxx\/PHID-FILE-zigk2s47ziyr7hqvpw7v\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_198\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_199\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/15\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-eye\" data-meta=\"0_201\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7237710\" id=\"7237710\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_197\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7237710\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_196\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 8:44 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 20:44:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_194\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_195\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T287380#7236632\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT287380#7236632\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Legoktm\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI haven't fully reviewed the incident yet, but my understanding is that our DPL fork isn't as bad as the others, but it still has some issues. Most wikinewses are pretty small, so it doesn't become a bit performance issue, but ruwikinews has rapidly grown in size (congrats!) and is no longer small. I think moving their workflows over to use a bot is the best idea for now, I don't think there are any magical fixes that'll make DPL work.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'd argue we have to disable DPL from everywhere, this has potential to cause a full outage in our system but from any wiki that has it turned on. Intentionally or unintentionally.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/3uc2yc67cpe2vkc4sibj\/PHID-FILE-5czt7j26qbkmfpxtwswx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Peachey88\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7237846\" id=\"7237846\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv 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href=\"#7237937\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_209\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 9:44 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 21:44:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7238119\" id=\"7238119\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-right phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_213\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e triaged this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eHigh\u003c\/span\u003e priority.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7238119\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 26 2021, 11:08 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-26 23:08:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_217\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ckmjlrkwr4prp4fyou33\/PHID-FILE-yvnn4o23ddzsp4jozs4r\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/patilise\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7238446\" id=\"7238446\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_216\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/patilise\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003epatilise\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7238446\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_215\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 27 2021, 1:05 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-27 01:05:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_220\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ied4uhepf36ypa3nofxt\/PHID-FILE-3wexu5vn7ik2tafjyzdk\/profile-profile-baselogo135.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7238483\" id=\"7238483\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_219\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003eBase\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7238483\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_218\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 27 2021, 2:34 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-27 02:34:24 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_229\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/azrrqxq3bm25ykvd7m5e\/PHID-FILE-onmex3d5rz5uov5fl2di\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krassotkin\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7238594\" id=\"7238594\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_228\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krassotkin\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Krassotkin\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7238594\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_227\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 27 2021, 6:41 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-27 06:41:33 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_225\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_226\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe cannot implement the functionality of news feeds through bots.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWikinews contains news feeds both on the home page and in all categories. Any news projects look the same.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCategories on Wikinews are like tags in other news projects. In particular, they are equivalent to articles on Wikipedia but much broader.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAt the limit Wikinews can contain more categories than Wikidata Q-entities. These are millions of categories.  As we can see in the example of social media tags. And note that this problem has been successfully solved there.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf we implement a news feed of categories through a requests, it will be generated only for these requests. Implementing this function through bots we will have to prepare these pages in advance anyway whether someone needs it or not.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn the latter case, this is thousands of times more constant requests to API (page requests and rewriting).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOn the other hand, in the last discussion, it was decided to rewrite the DPL to CirrusSearch.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI implemented this idea in a bot that updates news on Wikipedia portals. It works instantly and flawlessly. Moreover, the implementation of this functionality took me less than an hour.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor example see "\u0412\u0438\u043a\u0438\u043d\u043e\u0432\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438" block on \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/ru.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/\u041f\u043e\u0440\u0442\u0430\u043b:\u041c\u0443\u0437\u044b\u043a\u0430\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/ru.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/\u041f\u043e\u0440\u0442\u0430\u043b:\u041c\u0443\u0437\u044b\u043a\u0430\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat is why I suggest to try to implement that proposal. I see it works. I just don't write on PHP.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_238\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/56zbzcroo7msdftfgxbi\/PHID-FILE-w6eqlpokawu7gkm3faia\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_B.png-_3c5da0-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7238668\" id=\"7238668\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_237\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Bawolff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003eBawolff\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7238668\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_236\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 27 2021, 7:24 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-07-27 07:24:24 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_235\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOn the other hand, in the last discussion, it was decided to rewrite the DPL to CirrusSearch.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDecided is a strong word. It was suggested as a possible way forward, but nobody was interested in volunteering to do the work neccesary. As of this writing, there is still nobody interested afaik.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd to be clear, while it isn't rocket science, its also a non-trivial effort (in addition to rewriting the dpl query engine part, the ES indicies would also have to be augmented with additional data i think. Performance would have to be evaluated carefully. While ES scales to this type of workload much better than naive self-joins in mariadb, its still something that would need to be measured and ensured that the existing cluster could handle it)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn the latter case, this is thousands of times more constant requests to API (page requests and rewriting).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eRequesting\/editing a page is a fast operation for the server. Thousands of times more is probably easier on the servers at the scale of ruwikinews than the current 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