for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-yellow\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517817\" id=\"517817\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-yellow\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-up phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_95\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e raised the priority of this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eLow\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517817\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 22 2014, 1:33 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-11-22 01:33:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_96\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added projects: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/visualeditor-mediawiki\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003eVisualEditor-MediaWiki\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/javascript\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003eJavaScript\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_97\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e set Reference to bz48429.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517825\" id=\"517825\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_100\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517825\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 14 2013, 2:06 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-14 02:06:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vnxlrrngcpgsnmhhii2e\/PHID-FILE-htvtu2uphseqxfhkndiw\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarkTraceur\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517831\" id=\"517831\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_109\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarkTraceur\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003eMarkTraceur\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517831\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 17 2013, 5:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-17 17:34:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_107\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThoughts:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt strikes me that this might not be overly difficult - if VE is just using H<n> elements to represent sections anyway, then it should be relatively simple to change the edit URL to "javascript:", and add some JavaScript events to them that call the VE setup and, once it's done, brings the specified section to the top of the user's screen.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI won't mark this as easy, because I don't think it is. I wish we had an "intermediate" keyword.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_120\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_122\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517844\" id=\"517844\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_118\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517844\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 17 2013, 6:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-17 18:11:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_116\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #0)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI don't seem to be able to section edit with VisualEditor.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere are three issues here:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eTo edit a section, we would need to get its HTML from Parsoid - but a section isn't guaranteed to be balanced HTML, for example (commonly-used):\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e{|\u003cbr \/\u003e\n! Foo !! Bar\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003e-\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003ch4 class=\"remarkup-header\"\u003eSection 1\u003c\/h4\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003e-\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eFoo\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003ebar\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003ch4 class=\"remarkup-header\"\u003eSection 2\u003c\/h4\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003e-\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eFoo\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003ebar\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003e}\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eComing up with a solution to this is would be a significant piece of engineering effort for marginal utility.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe reasons we brought in section-editing originally were two-fold - to skip past confusing wikitext in other areas to find the item you actually wanted to edit (not an issue in the context of VisualEditor), and to avoid edit conflicts using the page-based diffs at the time (not an issue for ~ 7 years since Tim re-wrote the diff tool).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eEditing by section blocks users from editing other areas at the same time that the notice flaws in after they've entered editing, for very limited added-value.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe behaviour in VisualEditor when running as the default editor is for the edit section links to take you into VE for the entire page, with the view moved down to the anchor of that section (note, this is not how it appears right now on the various Wikipedias, but will be once they have the 'beta' enabled).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not convinced that this is a WONTFIX, but I'm similarly not convinced that we should spend our time fixing this rather than, say, making VisualEditor and Parsoid work on Wikisource, or other things we could be doing with our limited resources.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517860\" id=\"517860\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_131\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517860\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 17 2013, 9:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-17 21:15:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_129\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThere must be a recognition that editing large articles is burdensome and that section editing has (had) _enormous_ value.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEven with JavaScript disabled, the parser continues to take a significant amount of time to parse a large article. And while modern browsers on modern hardware don't have as many issues, rendering large articles can also be taxing.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eVisualEditor adds to this burden by piling on a lot of JavaScript. The idea that wanting to edit only a section of [[GE]] or [[Iraq War]] stems from wanting to skip past confusing wikitext or avoid edit conflicts misses the point, I think. Though I realize that VisualEditor uproots many principles of the current editing workflow\/paradigm.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKrinkle briefly mentioned an idea where section edit links might load the full VisualEditor form and then jump down to the specific section. This might be an approach to consider.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_145\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_141\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_142\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_143\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_144\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517867\" id=\"517867\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_140\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517867\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_139\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 17 2013, 9:18 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-17 21:18:54 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_137\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_138\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #3)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eKrinkle briefly mentioned an idea where section edit links might load the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nfull VisualEditor form and then jump down to the specific section. This might\u003cbr \/\u003e\nbe an approach to consider.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI mentioned it too, you know :-) - see:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #2)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eThe behaviour in VisualEditor when running as the default editor is for the\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eedit section links to take you into VE for the entire page, with the view\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003emoved down to the anchor of that section (note, this is not how it appears\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eright now on the various Wikipedias, but will be once they have the 'beta'\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eenabled).\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517876\" id=\"517876\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_153\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517876\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_152\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 18 2013, 3:41 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-18 03:41:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_151\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #4)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI mentioned it too, you know :-) - see:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #2)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eThe behaviour in VisualEditor when running as the default editor is for the\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eedit section links to take you into VE for the entire page, with the view\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003emoved down to the anchor of that section (note, this is not how it appears\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eright now on the various Wikipedias, but will be once they have the 'beta'\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003eenabled).\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eErr, whoops. Sorry, yeah, completely missed that paragraph.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf the default editor behavior is a switch that controls parts of the interface like this (I didn't realize that), is this testable now anywhere? A Labs wiki or something?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_164\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_166\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517883\" id=\"517883\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_162\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517883\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_161\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 19 2013, 4:27 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-19 16:27:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_160\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #5)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eErr, whoops. Sorry, yeah, completely missed that paragraph.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e:-)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf the default editor behavior is a switch that controls parts of the\u003cbr \/\u003e\ninterface like this (I didn't realize that), is this testable now anywhere?\u003cbr \/\u003e\nA Labs wiki or something?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNo; we should do that.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOne of the things I'm pondering is if we should relabel the edit section links to have two links, one to VE and the other to wikitext. Possibly "[_edit_ _*_]" or somesuch.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_176\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517886\" id=\"517886\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_175\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517886\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_174\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 21 2013, 5:30 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-05-21 05:30:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_173\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #6)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOne of the things I'm pondering is if we should relabel the edit section\u003cbr \/\u003e\nlinks to have two links, one to VE and the other to wikitext. Possibly "[_edit_\u003cbr \/\u003e\n_*_]" or somesuch.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think that might be too much clutter when VE rolls out to everyone.  But while it's opt-in, it will definitely encourage me to test it, since I use the edit section link a lot.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_185\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517894\" id=\"517894\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_184\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517894\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 12 2013, 7:31 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-12 19:31:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_182\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSee discussion here:\u003cbr \/\u003e\n[[Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Feedback]] and go to the section titled "VisualEditor not enabled for section editing". That talk section will end up in the archives eventually. Do an archive search then.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLoad time will still be an important factor with VisualEditor. That reason alone justifies continuing with section editing.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf VisualEditor is enabled for section editing, then it will also be necessary to enable "edit source" somehow for sections too. So people can choose between the two. Just like at the top of page. If the developers are worried about cluttering up each section with both "edit" and "edit source" links, then there needs to be some icon next to "edit" that will be the link for "edit source". The clickable icon will have a popup tooltip saying "edit source".\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI use section editing for almost all my editing, whether in short or long articles. Do you have section editing enabled? If not, you might try it. It speeds up editing immensely for me, and many others. See: \u003cbr \/\u003e\n[[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing]] and "Enable section editing via [edit] links". It would be better if it were enabled by default for all editors, whether logged in, or not.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMany people will still use wikitext source editing. There will long be a need until every single bug is fixed in VisualEditor. I can tell you this from years of experience with the Wikia visual editor. Many, if not most, regular editors on Wikia avoid it due to its continuing bugginess.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhen using source editing I don't know why anybody would want to wade through paragraphs of irrelevant stuff to get to the paragraph and section one is interested in editing. Especially if you make multiple edits, and use multiple previews. Why wait long periods of time for full-page previews? A section preview is much faster. I have been editing Wikipedia since 2005, and at one point I had forgotten that section editing is not a given for all editors. We are wasting a lot of editors time by not enabling it by default. Since there are fewer and fewer editors we need to make their editing more and more efficient.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnonymous editors do much of the editing on Wikipedia, and many will prefer to edit the source wikitext for all the reasons previously discussed. Many anonymous editors are experienced Wikipedia editors, and will not tolerate having to only use VisualEditor. So never get rid of the option for source editing. Let me repeat: WIKIA, WIKIA, WIKIA. Bugs are seemingly never-ending and ever-growing with visual editors.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_194\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517897\" id=\"517897\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_193\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517897\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_192\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 12 2013, 9:36 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-12 21:36:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_190\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_191\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #8)A section\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003epreview is much faster. I have been editing Wikipedia since 2005, and at one\u003cbr \/\u003e\npoint I had forgotten that section editing is not a given for all editors. We\u003cbr \/\u003e\nare wasting a lot of editors time by not enabling it by default.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWikitext section editing is enabled by default.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_203\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517910\" id=\"517910\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_202\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517910\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_201\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 12 2013, 9:41 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-12 21:41:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_199\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_200\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOK. I see that section editing is currently enabled for anonymous users too on Wikipedia. I am almost always logged in, and so I must have been confused by the preference "Enable section editing via [edit] links". I see now that it is about the URLs. See \u003cbr \/\u003e\n[[Help:Section#Section_editing]].\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI would hate to lose section editing of source wikitext if VisualEditor is enabled for section editing. That would be a serious step backwards for the reasons I and others have discussed.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517914\" id=\"517914\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_211\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517914\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 12 2013, 9:46 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-12 21:46:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_208\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_209\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #10)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOK. I see that section editing is currently enabled for anonymous users too\u003cbr \/\u003e\non Wikipedia. I am almost always logged in, and so I must have been confused by\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthe preference "Enable section editing via [edit] links".\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat is in fact the preference, but it's checked by default (as well as always on for anons).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_221\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517928\" id=\"517928\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_220\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517928\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 12 2013, 10:27 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-12 22:27:24 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_217\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_218\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOK. Now that I finally get it, and see that everyone (logged in or not) currently gets source editing of sections, let us not remove section editing of source wikitext when VisualEditor is fully implemented! That would make many editors  very unhappy.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI sometimes like to open up a section in a new tab for editing. So I can switch between tabs to alternate between how the section currently looks, and how my preview looks. This also helps me in finding stuff in the wikitext. I can use browser find in both tabs to help me find where I need to edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis can be very necessary when editing references, tables, navigation boxes, image captions, and other such wikitext. Images that are right-floating, for example, can be difficult to find in the wikitext otherwise.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_230\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_231\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_232\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_233\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517955\" id=\"517955\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_229\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517955\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_228\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 14 2013, 3:26 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-14 03:26:44 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_226\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_227\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #12)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOK. Now that I finally get it, and see that everyone (logged in or not)\u003cbr \/\u003e\ncurrently gets source editing of sections, let us not remove section editing\u003cbr \/\u003e\nof source wikitext when VisualEditor is fully implemented! That would make many\u003cbr \/\u003e\neditors very unhappy.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJust to update on this point: as of today, we have switched over to the 'beta' behaviour for VisualEditor in a number of regards, including section edit links - i.e., default behaviour for users with VisualEditor (which will soon be all users) is that section edit links will take you into VisualEditor, scrolled to that section, with the cursor at the start of it.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor the mean time (until VisualEditor is out of beta, when it will be much less likely that users will want to use wikitext editor often), there's a user preference (defaulted to off) that will redirect these section edit links back to the wikitext editor; this is in Special:Preferences > Editing > Beta features.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm open to seeing if there's a way of giving people two section edit links without being confusing in the medium\/long term, but that's a discussion for later. :-)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_243\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517974\" id=\"517974\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_242\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517974\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_241\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 12:25 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 00:25:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_239\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_240\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMany registered editors don't edit enough to know much about preferences. This is a bad idea. There are already many complaints here: \u003cbr \/\u003e\n[[Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Feedback]]\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis could cause many editors, who already do not edit much, to edit less because their edits get reverted soon after using Visual Editor. VE messes up many things. I have seen it myself, and so I do not use VE. I have to check a WHOLE-PAGE preview diff for errors it inserts before I save some other minor thing I edited. Minor typos and other things that used to take me a few seconds to fix now take a long time with the Visual Editor.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eVisual Editor needs to edit SECTIONS, too. Not the whole page. So this fix is not a fix. Visual Editor still does not support section editing. It still only edits the whole page.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWorst of all, what was once an interesting option has now become an imposed encumbrance. There is no way to edit in source mode now without effort. Registered editors are forced to use VE. They can only opt-out of VE section editing. They must go here: \u003cbr \/\u003e\n[[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing]]\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePlease return section editing of source wikitext as the default. Make this VE section editing gimmick the option in preferences. Make it opt-in, not opt-out.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe WMF does not have anywhere near a consensus or approval or any other type of community process sanction that justifies imposing beta VE. Especially when it is as buggy and beta as it is now. VE was actually an interesting option until this latest forced imposition of beta VE.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_252\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517982\" id=\"517982\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_251\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517982\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_250\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 12:38 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 00:38:49 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_248\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_249\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #14)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMany registered editors don't edit enough to know much about preferences. \u003cbr \/\u003e\n...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEditors who haven't changed their preferences are still using the wikitext editor.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eWorst of all, what was once an interesting option has now become an imposed\u003cbr \/\u003e\nencumbrance. There is no way to edit in source mode now without effort.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nRegistered editors are forced to use VE. They can only opt-out of VE section\u003cbr \/\u003e\nediting. They must go here: \u003cbr \/\u003e\n[[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing]]\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePlease return section editing of source wikitext as the default. Make this VE\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsection editing gimmick the option in preferences. Make it opt-in, not\u003cbr \/\u003e\nopt-out.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt is opt-in.  So far, the defaults have not changed in any way.  You can sign up for a temporary test account and see for yourself.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf you don't change any preferences, editing remains wikitext only.  And you can change back (and forth) at any time.  That means the defaults are not being imposed on anyone.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI understand your point.  VisualEditor is a work in progress.  However, it's a work in progress that's currently 100% opt-in, and James has already said he will consider two section edit links.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_261\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517988\" id=\"517988\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_260\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517988\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_259\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 12:57 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 00:57:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_257\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_258\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMatthew. You are incorrect. There has been a recent change. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nPlease read comment 13 by James Forrester above. Here is the relevant part:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"as of today, we have switched over to the 'beta' behaviour for VisualEditor in a number of regards, including section edit links - i.e., default behaviour for users with VisualEditor (which will soon be all users) is that section edit links will take you into VisualEditor, scrolled to that section, with the cursor at the start of it."\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_270\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bo44gt6nwph2o7mmfpfi\/PHID-FILE-5h2dyhfr3odtxpkbttih\/profile-Me_%28CC-BY-SA_3.0_by_Myleen_Hollero%29.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"517998\" id=\"517998\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_269\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Mattflaschen-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Mattflaschen-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#517998\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_268\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 1:25 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 01:25:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_266\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_267\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #16)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMatthew. You are incorrect. There has been a recent change.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou're right that the section editing default has changed for people who opted in to VE.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHowever, if you've never changed any editing preferences (most registered users), you are still using the old editor by default.  That will change, assuming the random test works well and VE continues to improve.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_279\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518009\" id=\"518009\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_278\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003eQuiddity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518009\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_277\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 2:47 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 02:47:33 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_276\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI commented at \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Feedback#Now_unable_to_edit_sections_by_old_method\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Feedback#Now_unable_to_edit_sections_by_old_method\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat it would be ideal to have section-edit links for [edit] and [edit source].\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eie.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nSandbox [edit]\u003cbr \/\u003e\n replaced with:\u003cbr \/\u003e\nSandbox [edit] [edit source]\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI believe this would prevent a LOT of complaints in the short term, and it would permit a lot of us to continue being active beta testers (section-editing is my most frequent type of edit), that it should be High priority, if at all possible. Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_288\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6p2trpcntqjtlvakxda6\/PHID-FILE-wezkx3b7eyo34b6doywi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518013\" id=\"518013\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_287\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003ematmarex\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518013\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_286\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 9:22 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 09:22:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_284\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_285\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #17)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #16)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMatthew. You are incorrect. There has been a recent change.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou're right that the section editing default has changed for people who\u003cbr \/\u003e\nopted\u003cbr \/\u003e\nin to VE.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHowever, if you've never changed any editing preferences (most registered\u003cbr \/\u003e\nusers), you are still using the old editor by default.  That will change,\u003cbr \/\u003e\nassuming the random test works well and VE continues to improve.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think Timeshifter means the "which will soon be all users" part, and I agree that it would be very unfortunate. Quiddity's solution seems like the best one, and IMO should be implemented before the A\/B test on en.wp.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_297\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/u5k7db7lw2prppsuyypj\/PHID-FILE-uptdd2lwjv4epm3seheg\/profile-Igel01.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Kipod\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518016\" id=\"518016\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_296\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Kipod\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003eKipod\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518016\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_295\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 1:08 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 13:08:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_293\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_294\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI read the discussion, and it seems nobody mentioned what i think is the "real" bug here: we have the "edit source" link, that drops you back to wikitext editor. The correct behavior for ve should obviously be to drop you to a section edit if the hser entered edit state through an edit section link.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePeace.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_306\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518030\" id=\"518030\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_305\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003eQuiddity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518030\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_304\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 4:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 16:19:47 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_302\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_303\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #20)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI read the discussion, and it seems nobody mentioned what i think is the\u003cbr \/\u003e\n"real"\u003cbr \/\u003e\nbug here: we have the "edit source" link, that drops you back to wikitext\u003cbr \/\u003e\neditor. The correct behavior for ve should obviously be to drop you to a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsection edit if the hser entered edit state through an edit section link.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt does do so (in its own way). If you click a section-edit link, it currently enters VE edit-mode, and scrolls down to the section you clicked on, and places the cursor at the beginning of the section-header.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_315\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/u5k7db7lw2prppsuyypj\/PHID-FILE-uptdd2lwjv4epm3seheg\/profile-Igel01.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Kipod\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518037\" id=\"518037\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_314\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Kipod\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003eKipod\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518037\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_313\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 4:50 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 16:50:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_311\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_312\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #21)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #20)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI read the discussion, and it seems nobody mentioned what i think is the\u003cbr \/\u003e\n"real"\u003cbr \/\u003e\nbug here: we have the "edit source" link, that drops you back to wikitext\u003cbr \/\u003e\neditor. The correct behavior for ve should obviously be to drop you to a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsection edit if the hser entered edit state through an edit section link.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt does do so (in its own way). If you click a section-edit link, it\u003cbr \/\u003e\ncurrently\u003cbr \/\u003e\nenters VE edit-mode, and scrolls down to the section you clicked on, and\u003cbr \/\u003e\nplaces\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthe cursor at the beginning of the section-header.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eno it doesn't. what i meant is that if you click on the "edit" section link, and then see something that requires wikitext editing and click "edit source", you are dropped into "old" editor _for the whole page_. this means that there is no way to execute the old "section edit" in the wikitext editor. removing this existing functionality is a regression, and fixing it should be easy.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"fixing it" meas that if you open the editor through a "section edit" link and then press "edit source", you will be in the exact same state as someone who has VE disabled and pressed the edit section link.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003efailing to fix this causes editors to disable VE (i know for a fact that i am not the only one who disabled VE because of this very reason).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003epeace.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_324\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6vn6slgby7ia62ouikut\/PHID-FILE-ay56qvafgaxajuctgtw3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/gerritbot\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518054\" id=\"518054\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_323\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/gerritbot\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003egerritbot\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518054\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_322\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 6:03 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 18:03:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_320\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_321\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eRelated URL: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/68868\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/68868\u003c\/a\u003e (Gerrit Change I13bbb9549c999bb7301bbcf530706a813184425d)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_333\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6p2trpcntqjtlvakxda6\/PHID-FILE-wezkx3b7eyo34b6doywi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518073\" id=\"518073\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_332\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003ematmarex\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518073\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 15 2013, 6:05 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-15 18:05:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_329\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_330\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI submitted the patch above to show two links side-by-side, in the form of "[edit] [edit source]", similarly to how the article tabs are done.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_342\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518092\" id=\"518092\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_341\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518092\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_340\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 16 2013, 12:13 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-16 00:13:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_338\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_339\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI like kipod's ideas (comment 22). I think to more fully support section editing means to make it easy to choose either editor at any time.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLet me explain. If the Bartosz patch is implemented (comment 24), or some variation of it, there will be "edit" and "edit source" links or icons on every section.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt would be wonderful if the "edit source" links or icons for sections also showed up inside the Visual Editor. The Visual Editor could treat "edit source" links or icons as uneditable links. But the link would still work. So people could click "edit source" links or icons to open source editing of a section.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePeople could go to source mode editing at anytime, even from inside the Visual Editor. That would be so convenient and so useful.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLater on, this functionality could be extended to anything the Visual Editor can't edit. People could click on templates, tables, etc. inside the Visual Editor and go directly to source mode editing of that section. Or they could right-click templates, tables, etc. to go to a new tab in source mode for that section.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_351\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6p2trpcntqjtlvakxda6\/PHID-FILE-wezkx3b7eyo34b6doywi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518101\" id=\"518101\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_350\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003ematmarex\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518101\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_349\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 16 2013, 12:52 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-16 00:52:49 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_347\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_348\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTimeshifter, this sounds very much like what is described at bug 43133.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_360\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518108\" id=\"518108\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_359\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518108\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_358\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 16 2013, 1:43 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-16 01:43:40 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_356\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_357\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eBartosz (comment 26). If I am reading bug 43133 right it sounds way too complicated. What I am suggesting is a simple "edit source" link to source mode editing of a section. Nothing fancy like floating windows, etc. tied in any way to the Visual Editor.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOne clicks out of the Visual Editor altogether. This means that edits to the source wikitext in a section are treated the same no matter how one got to that wikitext edit window. This avoids integration conflicts, additional edit conflicts, or anything complicated.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSame for clicking on stuff Visual Editor can't edit. One is sent to source mode for the section where that stuff is found. Nothing more.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor transcluded templates one still has to go to the bottom of the source-mode edit window for the whole page. That is where the list of transcluded templates is found. It would be nice if one could see such a list at the bottom of source-mode edit windows for sections too.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_373\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_369\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_370\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_371\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_372\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518124\" id=\"518124\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_368\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518124\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_367\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 17 2013, 12:46 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-17 00:46:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_365\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_366\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #20)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI read the discussion, and it seems nobody mentioned what i think is the\u003cbr \/\u003e\n"real"\u003cbr \/\u003e\nbug here: we have the "edit source" link, that drops you back to wikitext\u003cbr \/\u003e\neditor. The correct behavior for ve should obviously be to drop you to a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsection edit if the hser entered edit state through an edit section link.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePeace.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI have created this as bug 49664.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_382\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_383\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518132\" id=\"518132\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_381\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518132\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_380\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 17 2013, 12:50 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-17 00:50:07 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_378\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_379\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #25)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt would be wonderful if the "edit source" links or icons for sections also\u003cbr \/\u003e\nshowed up inside the Visual Editor. The Visual Editor could treat "edit\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsource" links or icons as uneditable links. But the link would still work. So\u003cbr \/\u003e\npeople could click "edit source" links or icons to open source editing of a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsection.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI have created this as bug 49665.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_399\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_395\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_396\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_397\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_398\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518143\" id=\"518143\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_394\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518143\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_393\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 17 2013, 12:52 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-17 00:52:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_391\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_392\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #18)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI commented at\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nFeedback#Now_unable_to_edit_sections_by_old_method\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat it would be ideal to have section-edit links for [edit] and [edit\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsource].\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eie.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nSandbox [edit]\u003cbr \/\u003e\n replaced with:\u003cbr \/\u003e\nSandbox [edit] [edit source]\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI believe this would prevent a LOT of complaints in the short term, and it\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwould permit a lot of us to continue being active beta testers\u003cbr \/\u003e\n(section-editing\u003cbr \/\u003e\nis my most frequent type of edit), that it should be High priority, if at all\u003cbr \/\u003e\npossible. Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI have created this as bug 49666.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_408\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6vn6slgby7ia62ouikut\/PHID-FILE-ay56qvafgaxajuctgtw3\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/gerritbot\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518161\" id=\"518161\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_407\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/gerritbot\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003egerritbot\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518161\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_406\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 22 2013, 8:09 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-22 20:09:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_404\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_405\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eRelated URL: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/69984\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/69984\u003c\/a\u003e (Gerrit Change I4b9c47fd65a700a81c880144247fec524edff7e5)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_421\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_417\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_418\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_419\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_420\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518168\" id=\"518168\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_416\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518168\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_415\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 26 2013, 9:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-26 21:16:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_413\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_414\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eJust a note (for users not following the other bugs) that we have just merged a change along the lines of bug 49666 - there will be both an "edit" and an "edit source" link on every section, with the edit link taking the user into VisualEditor, scrolled down to that section.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis enhancement request (to have VE appear just for a section within a wider page) is not impossible, and we're keen to explore what impact it has, but very hard, and blocked on Parsoid's HTML being used as the basis for MW's read pages, so may take some time.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_430\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518176\" id=\"518176\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_429\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003eDavid_Gerard\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518176\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_428\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 2 2013, 7:27 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-02 19:27:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_426\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_427\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp class=\"remarkup-literal\"\u003e*** Bug 50592 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_439\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ehf6nh2wiml3uqb4cmvx\/PHID-FILE-5c2rn7ewsgl3uio3vrmo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518181\" id=\"518181\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_438\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e99of9\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518181\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_437\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 2 2013, 10:46 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-02 22:46:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_435\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_436\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can't believe that section editing is marked as a "lowest priority" "enhancement"!  This is incredibly important to me.  The way it's currently set up wastes bandwidth and slows load time relative to the old editor.  Both of these are important when making a quick-fix edit.  Hardly "marginal utility".  James, please try regular editing on a slow connection if you haven't done this before, I'm pretty sure you'll end up editing the section source.  I'm quite supportive of visual editor in general, but if this is not going to be fixed, I may have to turn back.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_452\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_448\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_449\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_450\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_451\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518195\" id=\"518195\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_447\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518195\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_446\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 3 2013, 12:53 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-03 00:53:46 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_444\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_445\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #34)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can't believe that section editing is marked as a "lowest priority"\u003cbr \/\u003e\n"enhancement"!\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"Enhancement" means "the software doesn't do this, and isn't as-written meant to do this"; it's not a judgement on whether it should.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"Lowest priority" means "the core developers of this are not intending to work on this issue any time soon"; bugs are always open to other developers coming and working on them, which frequently happens.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"Lowest" is a very clear way of me marking the bug as something that can be taken up without fear of duplication of work by a developer new to the code. (This is known as avoiding "cookie licking".)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is incredibly important to me.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI appreciate that it is important to some editors, but I have to balance all requested features, changes and bugs with VisualEditor against one another, and in my judgement this is, relatively, an edge case.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe way it's currently set up wastes bandwidth and slows load time relative\u003cbr \/\u003e\nto the old editor. Both of these are important when making a quick-fix edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree with that; I recommend using the wikitext editor for exactly these use cases by power users if they prefer.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eHardly "marginal utility".\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat specifically refers to finding a solution which you don't want.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA simpler solution - involving having the entire document available, but just not editable except for the section the user asked for - is do-able, but in that case, the benefits you're looking for (low bandwidth, fast loading time, low load on local computers) would not be present; hence, marginal utility.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSolving what you're actually asking for (a form of VisualEditor\/Parsoid that loaded and edited only one section at a time) would be a mammoth piece of work, albeit with some usefuless as you describe.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eJames, please try regular editing on a slow connection if you haven't done\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthis before, I'm pretty sure you'll end up editing the section source.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI've edited Wikipedia (and other wikis) since 2001, including over heroically-terrible connexions through the years; I am very aware of the impact that our current site has on low-bandwidth users, even without VisualEditor, but I cannot justify spending donor funds to that extent when there are more pressing demands on the resources of the VisualEditor team.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm quite supportive of visual editor in general, but if this is not going\u003cbr \/\u003e\nto be fixed, I may have to turn back.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm sorry that that is the case, and hope that it does not come to that. Sorry if my explanation here is insufficient.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_461\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p7dk2jhdckqr2adcc353\/PHID-FILE-hbotumy5opjwf2fuelyi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518201\" id=\"518201\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_460\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Timeshifter\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003eTimeshifter\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518201\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_459\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 3 2013, 7:50 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-03 07:50:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_457\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_458\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eSolving what you're actually asking for (a form of VisualEditor\/Parsoid that\u003cbr \/\u003e\nloaded and edited only one section at a time) would be a mammoth piece of\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwork,\u003cbr \/\u003e\nalbeit with some usefuless as you describe.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eJames, please try regular editing on a slow connection if you haven't done\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthis before, I'm pretty sure you'll end up editing the section source.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI've edited Wikipedia (and other wikis) since 2001, including over\u003cbr \/\u003e\nheroically-terrible connexions through the years; I am very aware of the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nimpact\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat our current site has on low-bandwidth users, even without VisualEditor,\u003cbr \/\u003e\nbut I cannot justify spending donor funds to that extent when there are more\u003cbr \/\u003e\npressing demands on the resources of the VisualEditor team.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy first thought is what were people thinking when they thought that using a visual editor to edit a whole page at a time would not slow things down a lot for many users? I am not a developer though, and hindsight is 20\/20.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhatever it costs to make a visual editor that edits a section at at time would be worth it. The WMF spends money on far less important things. I have been saying this for years.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think millions of dollars more a year should be spent on developer salaries just for the visual editor, and the coordination of vast armies of volunteer developers to work on the visual editor. Another spending priority would be developer money for cross-wiki watchlists.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_470\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ehf6nh2wiml3uqb4cmvx\/PHID-FILE-5c2rn7ewsgl3uio3vrmo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518207\" id=\"518207\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_469\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003e99of9\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518207\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_468\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 3 2013, 8:24 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-03 08:24:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_466\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_467\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ethe core developers of this are not intending to work on this issue any time soon\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat's exactly what befuddles me, and seems like a poor judgement.  If it's anywhere near as big a task as you envisage, then I can't expect a volunteer to take it up.  So I conclude that realistically it will never be done.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ehaving the entire document available, but just not editable\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOk, I agree that would be useless, possibly of negative value. You're right that this is not what I'm asking for.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eParsoid that loaded and edited only one section at a time would be a mammoth piece of work\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eObviously I'm not a mediawiki programmer, so I speak from ignorance here.  But I don't understand why Parsoid can't just be given a shorter piece of wikitext to parse, along with the section number it is starting at.  Since the old editor is quite capable of serving up a correct section of the wikicode to the user, I don't see why the same wikicode can't be given to Parsoid.  Please can you get a third and fourth opinion on the feasibility of this.  Someone in your team may be able to think of a way around the problems you envisage.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI've edited Wikipedia (and other wikis) since 2001, including over heroically-terrible connexions\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo have you now also tried VisualEditor on those heroically-terrible connections?  I'm willing to bet that you will feel the weight of this problem.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI cannot justify spending donor funds\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe whole goal of VisualEditor is to improve accessibility and the editing experience for lower-tech editors right?  Well, the sad truth is that low-tech and globally underrepresented editor communities are strongly correlated with low bandwidth access.  Section editing in a long article gives an order of magnitude speed gain to those editors.  If you cannot do this for the target audience, I fear that VisualEditor will not serve those who need it the most.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI really hope you will discuss this with more people before confining it to the dustbin.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_479\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ehf6nh2wiml3uqb4cmvx\/PHID-FILE-5c2rn7ewsgl3uio3vrmo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518221\" id=\"518221\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_478\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e99of9\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518221\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_477\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 3 2013, 11:58 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-03 11:58:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_475\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_476\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOh, and sorry to be pedantic, but in the original context, "marginal utility" was not referring to a specific semi-solution as far as I can see:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI don't seem to be able to section edit with VisualEditor.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eTo edit a section, we would need to get its HTML from Parsoid - but a section\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eisn't guaranteed to be balanced HTML ...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eComing up with a solution to this is would be a significant piece of\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eengineering effort for marginal utility.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThank you for confirming now that you *do* see utility in stopping the waste of bandwidth and slowing of load time.  Even if you think it is too difficult.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_488\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518239\" id=\"518239\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_487\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003eDavid_Gerard\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518239\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_486\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 4 2013, 7:20 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-04 07:20:47 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_484\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_485\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI appreciate the VE is a hard problem  - but now you have an interface that *lies* to the user. It claims visual section editing is possible, but the PM for the VE has stated this functionality will not be funded.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo, is the interface lying to the user this bug, or should it be a separate bug?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf lying to the user is considered a feature, what is it for?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_497\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518264\" id=\"518264\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_496\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003eDavid_Gerard\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518264\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_495\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 4 2013, 11:07 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-04 11:07:47 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_493\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_494\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAh, I see the "edit|edit source" links on sections have turned back into just "edit" links, which edit the wikitext. Thank you :-)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_506\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518271\" id=\"518271\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_505\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/David_Gerard\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003eDavid_Gerard\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518271\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_504\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 4 2013, 3:42 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-04 15:42:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_502\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_503\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAh, the disappearing double-links are Bug 50731.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_515\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518277\" id=\"518277\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_514\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518277\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_513\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 4 2013, 3:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-04 15:55:07 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_511\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_512\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003ejoedecker\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is quite serious for slow connections.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_524\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ehf6nh2wiml3uqb4cmvx\/PHID-FILE-5c2rn7ewsgl3uio3vrmo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518280\" id=\"518280\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_523\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/99of9\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003e99of9\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518280\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_522\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 31 2013, 4:08 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-31 04:08:26 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_520\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_521\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm upgrading this to "normal" since it's listed at #4 on \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Known_problems\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Known_problems\u003c\/a\u003e and I'm not seeing any good case for low\/lowest made here.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_537\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bxdymb7zqtipuiytbor5\/PHID-FILE-hh7qwoflwjmrunovgr5a\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/18\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_533\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_534\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/12\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_535\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_536\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"518289\" id=\"518289\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_532\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdforrester-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003eJdforrester-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#518289\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_531\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 31 2013, 8:07 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-07-31 20:07:41 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_529\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_530\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #43)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm upgrading this to "normal" since it's listed at #4 on\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Known_problems\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VisualEditor\/Known_problems\u003c\/a\u003e and I'm\u003cbr \/\u003e\nnot\u003cbr \/\u003e\nseeing any good case for low\/lowest made here.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe "priority" field doesn't mean "how much do people want it", it's "how soon are the developers likely to get to do it".\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs I explained above, this will require a series of major changes in Parsoid and a huge re-write of MediaWiki's skins system as we switch over to use Parsoid's generated HTML for read pages, and is many (many) months away - we're hoping to be able to undertake it some time towards the start\/middle of next calendar year.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMagically changing the status of the priority doesn't make this complex work happen any quicker. There is no value in edit-warring over Bugzilla statuses, so I'm going to leave this as is, but please don't make changes like 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