for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vkbdrif2qx4aoarbhmbr\/PHID-FILE-wgm76sunyarnnrruhqyb\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6820350\" id=\"6820350\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_131\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e alexhollender_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6820350\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 10 2021, 9:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-10 21:01:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_135\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vkbdrif2qx4aoarbhmbr\/PHID-FILE-wgm76sunyarnnrruhqyb\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6820365\" id=\"6820365\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_134\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e alexhollender_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-pnkl7liqvkjltrk\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6820365\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 10 2021, 9:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-10 21:04:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vkbdrif2qx4aoarbhmbr\/PHID-FILE-wgm76sunyarnnrruhqyb\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6820425\" id=\"6820425\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_137\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e alexhollender_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T266511\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003eT266511: Handling of special talk page notification [design spike]\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6820425\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 10 2021, 9:15 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-10 21:15:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ytafldsbpjoj657cb6mp\/PHID-FILE-g2cvy4f2xd3fy5iwqrqc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/JJMC89\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6820435\" id=\"6820435\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_146\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/JJMC89\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003eJJMC89\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6820435\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_145\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 10 2021, 9:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-10 21:19:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_143\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_144\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWill the suggested design be as noticeable as the yellow notice, particularly for new contributors? (Probably not.)\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI think there are already issues with (new) contributors not realizing that they have messages on their talk page, and the suggested design may make that problem worse.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vkbdrif2qx4aoarbhmbr\/PHID-FILE-wgm76sunyarnnrruhqyb\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6820477\" id=\"6820477\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_155\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e alexhollender_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003eRHo\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6820477\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 10 2021, 9:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-10 21:34:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_152\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_153\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ovasileva\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdlrobson\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e just pointed out to me that the yellow notice doesn't get \u003cem\u003eadded\u003c\/em\u003e to the user links, it is actually the Talk page link \u003cem\u003etransformed into\u003c\/em\u003e (or replaced by) the yellow notice. In other words the yellow notice IS a special version of the talk page link. I'm noting this because it might mean that option #2 in the description is more complicated than we thought (since in new vector the Talk link isn't exposed on the page, it's inside the user menu).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6820685\" id=\"6820685\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_158\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6820685\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_157\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 10 2021, 10:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-10 22:45:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/fu3n33i2oyp25zpmyahx\/PHID-FILE-emidbnen4gzhvzdsscdx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6820859\" id=\"6820859\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_167\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003eRHo\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6820859\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_166\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 10 2021, 11:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-10 23:25:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_164\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_165\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6820435\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6820435\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/JJMC89\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@JJMC89\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWill the suggested design be as noticeable as the yellow notice, particularly for new contributors? (Probably not.)\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI think there are already issues with (new) contributors not realizing that they have messages on their talk page, and the suggested design may make that problem worse.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think having the floating element could be seen as similarly noticeable to the yellow link, since the current style is sitting 'inline' between other links and icons, whereas the new floating element jutting out below the user links literally makes it stand out more. Having said that, presumably the new design will be tracked and compared with usage of the current one, and if there is a significant decrease in people navigating to their Talk page, adjustments can be made?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIMHO, this new floating element design works better as it connects the Talk page alert with the alert icon, is more in keeping with the new vector visual design, and importantly frees up a not insignificant area that the alert-text-inside-a-user-link currently takes up in the header.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_171\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ud6rnp3rmsr7saljq7p2\/PHID-FILE-vkf4uailm7tdvok63w6m\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6821922\" id=\"6821922\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-right phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_170\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003eovasileva\u003c\/a\u003e triaged this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eMedium\u003c\/span\u003e priority.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6821922\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 9:49 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 09:49:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/qthhtzdyxjy3c6g3bfla\/PHID-FILE-6h3bwluxz7qvat6ylxlt\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6821976\" id=\"6821976\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_180\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003eIniquity\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6821976\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_179\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 10:06 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 10:06:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_178\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'd really like to invite the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/growth-team\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-violet phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-users\" data-meta=\"0_7\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eGrowth-Team\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e to a discussion and hear their opinion about reducing the visibility of \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003enew message\u003c\/tt\u003e warning. In my opinion, it is already difficult for beginners to understand our system, and the current (floating) proposal is less noticeable than the orange version.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_190\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/fu3n33i2oyp25zpmyahx\/PHID-FILE-emidbnen4gzhvzdsscdx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6822402\" id=\"6822402\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_189\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003eRHo\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6822402\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_188\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 12:06 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 12:06:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_187\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6821976\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6821976\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Iniquity\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'd really like to invite the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/growth-team\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-violet phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-users\" data-meta=\"0_13\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eGrowth-Team\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e to a discussion and hear their opinion about reducing the visibility of \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003enew message\u003c\/tt\u003e warning. In my opinion, it is already difficult for beginners to understand our system, and the current (floating) proposal is less noticeable than the orange version.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHi \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Iniquity\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - apologies if it was not clear that my weighing in was in part in my capacity as the Growth team's designer. I completely agree that it is difficult for newcomers to understand how Wikipedia works, including Talk pages, which is why our newcomer homepage experiment was created to provide a clear, welcoming, central place to start. As such, our efforts have been to drive newcomers to the homepage instead with a number of other discovery methods such as adding links to the page after the welcome survey (\u003ca href=\"\/T222852\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT222852\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e), guided tour popup banners (\u003ca href=\"\/T224883\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT224883\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e), and adding a link on the Special:Contributions page (\u003ca href=\"\/T227575\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT227575\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e); rather than the subject of this alert, to drive people to their User talk page.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOur team's notification\/alert priorities aside, I want to reiterate \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.wikimedia.org\/T274428#682085\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003emy comment above\u003c\/a\u003e that I don't consider the new floating element design to be reducing the visibility of the message, but about moving it into a place that makes more sense as an alert. Certainly, there is room for visual styling tweaks (e.g., revising the background to use the yellow90 warning colour), but overall new design placement and styling 'elevating' it over the user links is a fairly widely used style of alert\/toast notification which I am in favour of at least testing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_199\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/qthhtzdyxjy3c6g3bfla\/PHID-FILE-6h3bwluxz7qvat6ylxlt\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6823095\" id=\"6823095\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_198\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003eIniquity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6823095\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_197\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 3:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 15:11:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_196\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6822402\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6822402\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6821976\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6821976\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Iniquity\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'd really like to invite the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/growth-team\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-violet phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-users\" data-meta=\"0_22\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eGrowth-Team\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e to a discussion and hear their opinion about reducing the visibility of \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003enew message\u003c\/tt\u003e warning. In my opinion, it is already difficult for beginners to understand our system, and the current (floating) proposal is less noticeable than the orange version.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHi \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Iniquity\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - apologies if it was not clear that my weighing in was in part in my capacity as the Growth team's designer. I completely agree that it is difficult for newcomers to understand how Wikipedia works, including Talk pages, which is why our newcomer homepage experiment was created to provide a clear, welcoming, central place to start. As such, our efforts have been to drive newcomers to the homepage instead with a number of other discovery methods such as adding links to the page after the welcome survey (\u003ca href=\"\/T222852\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT222852\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e), guided tour popup banners (\u003ca href=\"\/T224883\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT224883\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e), and adding a link on the Special:Contributions page (\u003ca href=\"\/T227575\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT227575\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e); rather than the subject of this alert, to drive people to their User talk page.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOur team's notification\/alert priorities aside, I want to reiterate \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.wikimedia.org\/T274428#682085\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003emy comment above\u003c\/a\u003e that I don't consider the new floating element design to be reducing the visibility of the message, but about moving it into a place that makes more sense as an alert. Certainly, there is room for visual styling tweaks (e.g., revising the background to use the yellow90 warning colour), but overall new design placement and styling 'elevating' it over the user links is a fairly widely used style of alert\/toast notification which I am in favour of at least testing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHi, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e :) Thanks for the detailed answer!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI remember you are on the Growth team, but I didn't think you were looking at design from a newscomers perspective this time around. Sorry for that :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf the team thinks the new design won't interfere with the newscomers experience, then that's a good thing. Let's look at the test results :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_202\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/j3kg5dqxdgloximvn3vq\/PHID-FILE-vcs7fhw5giwtfbiegyua\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_M.png-_c98398-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MMiller_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6823891\" id=\"6823891\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_201\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MMiller_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003eMMiller_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6823891\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 5:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 17:33:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rl2he4ditfqxbpsxrwd2\/PHID-FILE-lojfl4dwhq24gmzhhwun\/335862-alphanumeric_lato-white_P.png-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/phuedx\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6823934\" id=\"6823934\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_204\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/phuedx\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003ephuedx\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/67\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003eIncoming\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/67\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003eTriaged but Future\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/web-team-backlog\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003eWeb-Team-Backlog\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6823934\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_203\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 5:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 17:38:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/fu3n33i2oyp25zpmyahx\/PHID-FILE-emidbnen4gzhvzdsscdx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6824272\" id=\"6824272\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_213\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003eRHo\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6824272\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 7:05 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 19:05:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_211\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6823095\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6823095\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Iniquity\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e[...] \u003cbr \/\u003e\nHi, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e :) Thanks for the detailed answer!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI remember you are on the Growth team, but I didn't think you were looking at design from a newscomers perspective this time around. Sorry for that :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNo worries at all, thanks for looking out for our team's perspective!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf the team thinks the new design won't interfere with the newscomers experience, then that's a good thing. Let's look at the test results :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYes, and I did also check on the most recent analysis on Growth newcomer's route to the homepage, and the figures on this task \u003ca href=\"\/T245369#6020173\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT245369#6020173\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e confirm that a low percentage (0.5-3%) of newcomers across our target wikis click on the usertalk link as their route to the homepage.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_223\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/qthhtzdyxjy3c6g3bfla\/PHID-FILE-6h3bwluxz7qvat6ylxlt\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6824418\" id=\"6824418\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_222\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003eIniquity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6824418\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_221\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 11 2021, 8:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-11 20:04:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_220\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6824272\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6824272\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eYes, and I did also check on the most recent analysis on Growth newcomer's route to the homepage, and the figures on this task \u003ca href=\"\/T245369#6020173\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT245369#6020173\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e confirm that a low percentage (0.5-3%) of newcomers across our target wikis click on the usertalk link as their route to the homepage.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThanks for the link to this analysis! We need to collect such charts in one place :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy guess is that the third design (the last picture) only displays a link to the talk page when a new post appears, this can also help remove unnecessary clicks. But the visibility of the notification will remain.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_233\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rplsm3iqlqq6kqiiuakr\/PHID-FILE-ftupqxdmodcbklc236ut\/71743d-alphanumeric_lato-dark_P.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ppelberg\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6825383\" id=\"6825383\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_232\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ppelberg\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-partial phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e ppelberg\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6825383\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_231\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 12 2021, 1:04 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-12 01:04:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_229\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_230\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eBuilding on what \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e said in \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6820859\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6820859\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@alexhollender\u003c\/span\u003e + \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ovasileva\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: is there room to add a question to the \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eQualitative testing\u003c\/tt\u003e questions y'all are drafting in \u003ca href=\"\/T266536\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT266536\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e that explicitly asks whether the revised design is more\/less visible than before?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e...I ask because we (the Editing Team) want to make sure people receive timely and relevant responses to the things they say. More details in \u003ca href=\"\/T233447\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT233447\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_242\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vkbdrif2qx4aoarbhmbr\/PHID-FILE-wgm76sunyarnnrruhqyb\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6827175\" id=\"6827175\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_241\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e alexhollender_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6827175\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_240\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 12 2021, 7:18 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-12 19:18:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_238\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_239\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003emy apologies for not clearly separating the two decisions here:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eone decision is about the \u003cstrong\u003eplacement of the element\u003c\/strong\u003e. Currently the element is flat on the page, i.e. its neighboring elements need to move out of the way and make space for it when it appears. And since it only appears sometimes it causes extra work for testing, design planning, etc. Plus fewer elements can fit in that area because we will always need to account for the situation where it does appear and claims that amount of space. By rendering it as a "floating" element we avoid these issues, since it doesn't displace anything when it appears. This is the decision that we, from a design\/interface standpoint, care about more.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ethe second decision is about the \u003cstrong\u003estyling of the element\u003c\/strong\u003e. Yellow, gray, red, etc.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThese two decisions are not dependent on each other. My apologies for presenting the options in such a way that made it appear that they were. To clarify what I mean considering the following:\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/oinoq3ocwcew5utm5lpv\/PHID-FILE-6ld4h2t76lbglkwnt3mz\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/n3boyzl2booltxpe557h\/PHID-FILE-5weols2j5rt2aecg4ufq\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"64.570575056012\" alt=\"image.png (393\u00d71 px, 135 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThis is not a suggestion of what we should do. It's just meant to show that we can have a floating element that is styled differently than the original proposal. Similarly we could have a non-floating element that is styled in a more subtle way than the current alert.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_251\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/j3kg5dqxdgloximvn3vq\/PHID-FILE-vcs7fhw5giwtfbiegyua\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_M.png-_c98398-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MMiller_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6827189\" id=\"6827189\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_250\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MMiller_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003eMMiller_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6827189\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_249\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 12 2021, 7:21 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-12 19:21:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_247\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_248\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eFor what it's worth, I like the idea of the styling drawing the attention of users. In the Growth team's experience, one of the problems we have is that mentors respond to their mentee's question, but the mentee doesn't reply back. We believe that's because many mentee never \u003cem\u003esee\u003c\/em\u003e the mentor's response. Though I think the main problem is that newcomers have likely left the wiki and didn't register with an email address, I do think that drawing their attention to the place where the response is would help some.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ytafldsbpjoj657cb6mp\/PHID-FILE-g2cvy4f2xd3fy5iwqrqc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/JJMC89\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6827247\" id=\"6827247\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_259\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/JJMC89\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003eJJMC89\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6827247\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_258\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 12 2021, 7:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-12 19:47:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_256\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_257\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnother thing to keep in mind is that Echo (\u003ca href=\"\/tag\/notifications\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-blue phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-briefcase\" data-meta=\"0_41\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eNotifications\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e) is not part of core, so there will need to be a design that accounts for wikis without it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_269\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/qthhtzdyxjy3c6g3bfla\/PHID-FILE-6h3bwluxz7qvat6ylxlt\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6827372\" id=\"6827372\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_268\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Iniquity\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003eIniquity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6827372\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_267\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 12 2021, 8:49 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-02-12 20:49:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_265\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_266\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6827175\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6827175\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@alexhollender\u003c\/span\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is not a suggestion of what we should do. It's just meant to show that we can have a floating element that is styled differently than the original proposal. Similarly we could have a non-floating element that is styled in a more subtle way than the current alert.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThanks for the clarification! I thought in the wrong way :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6827189\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6827189\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MMiller_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MMiller_WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eFor what it's worth, I like the idea of the styling drawing the attention of users. In the Growth team's experience, one of the problems we have is that mentors respond to their mentee's question, but the mentee doesn't reply back. We believe that's because many mentee never \u003cem\u003esee\u003c\/em\u003e the mentor's response. Though I think the main problem is that newcomers have likely left the wiki and didn't register with an email address, I do think that drawing their attention to the place where the response is would help some.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn the future, we can combine notifications by the way. And, for example, write "the mentor answered you" instead of "you have new messages".\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_272\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/m25d4sm73mzvfxk7efxx\/PHID-FILE-zigk2s47ziyr7hqvpw7v\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6874154\" id=\"6874154\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_271\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6874154\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_270\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 2 2021, 10:55 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-03-02 10:55:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_276\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ud6rnp3rmsr7saljq7p2\/PHID-FILE-vkf4uailm7tdvok63w6m\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6886255\" id=\"6886255\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_274\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003eovasileva\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eHandling of talk page notification\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eUser Links: Handling of talk page notification\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6886255\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_273\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 5 2021, 1:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-03-05 13:24:08 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_275\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003eovasileva\u003c\/a\u003e edited projects, added \u003ca href=\"\/project\/view\/4882\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_107\"\u003eWeb-Team-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2020-21)\u003c\/a\u003e; removed \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/web-team-backlog\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003eWeb-Team-Backlog\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-yellow\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_290\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpvr2eembyewyy7kmoah\/PHID-FILE-q3f7troopzjjk6grs5j2\/profile-HelloKittyLounge)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_286\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_287\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_288\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_289\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6915878\" id=\"6915878\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-yellow\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-spinner phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_284\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_109\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e changed the task status from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eOpen\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eStalled\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6915878\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_283\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 15 2021, 10:08 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-03-15 22:08:14 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_285\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e claimed this task.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_281\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_282\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_111\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCan't do analysis on this one until \u003ca href=\"\/T276564\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT276564\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"\/T276561\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT276561\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e are implemented.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_293\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c5mll4i2ivmjlggdpizk\/PHID-FILE-x2xqxc36bpfpfub7m6rd\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6924138\" id=\"6924138\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_292\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_112\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e added subtasks: \u003ca href=\"\/T276564\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003eT276564: User links: Logged-out user links menu treatment\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/T276561\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003eT276561: User links: Logged-in user links menu treatment without icons (for anonymous users no change)\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6924138\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_291\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 18 2021, 9:28 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-03-18 09:28:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_302\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5rgojmch25zjn4qbyihr\/PHID-FILE-lammujrvef44b2xfeygm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7034600\" id=\"7034600\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_301\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003eVolker_E\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7034600\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_300\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 26 2021, 3:20 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-04-26 15:20:24 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_298\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_299\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eA note on the color treatment, do we want to stay with the \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/design.wikimedia.org\/style-guide\/components\/messages.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ewarning message background color\u003c\/a\u003e for (hopefully something positive like) new messages?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_315\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpvr2eembyewyy7kmoah\/PHID-FILE-q3f7troopzjjk6grs5j2\/profile-HelloKittyLounge)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_311\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_312\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/8\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_313\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-life-ring\" data-meta=\"0_314\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7038871\" id=\"7038871\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_310\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7038871\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_309\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 27 2021, 4:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-04-27 16:47:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_307\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_308\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf we are retaining the message as is, then changing color would need to happen for all skins as this code is centralized in core. If we are changing the implementation then I think color changes are up for grabs.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_324\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/r733mkmnv2zzwmung5e4\/PHID-FILE-i2qtqbs7gtjpir7s75o4\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/iamjessklein\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7047930\" id=\"7047930\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_323\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/iamjessklein\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e iamjessklein\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7047930\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_322\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 30 2021, 1:22 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-04-30 01:22:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_320\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_321\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eplacement\u003c\/strong\u003e - I like the direct association of the notice with the alert. This makes it more of a group and therefore single alert from the user perspective. Another thing worth noting here is that User Talk notifications go to the Bell icon, but Article Talk notifications go to the Drawer icon. Ideally this would be streamlined into one icon in the future, but I assume that's a separate discussion.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003estyling\u003c\/strong\u003eI agree with \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Volker_E\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Volker_E\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e in that the color doesn't feel right, but the success green color (Green 90, 50 or 30) isn't correct either because it's still opinionated. I would vote for a more neutral yet active color such as an accent like Blue 50 and then match the alert to that for consistency. Something like this \u003cem\u003eor\u003c\/em\u003e the very neutral gray plus red dot combination as is posted in this cards description first design.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/agozhuk3dznuo4elscxl\/PHID-FILE-m47cxyecpr2tqylq6gaw\/Frame_1.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/agozhuk3dznuo4elscxl\/PHID-FILE-m47cxyecpr2tqylq6gaw\/Frame_1.png\" width=\"800\" alt=\"Frame 1.png (890\u00d72 px, 168 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_333\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/fu3n33i2oyp25zpmyahx\/PHID-FILE-emidbnen4gzhvzdsscdx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7052527\" id=\"7052527\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_332\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003eRHo\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7052527\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 3 2021, 11:58 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-05-03 11:58:20 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_329\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_330\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6820477\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6820477\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@alexhollender\u003c\/span\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ovasileva\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdlrobson\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e just pointed out to me that the yellow notice doesn't get \u003cem\u003eadded\u003c\/em\u003e to the user links, it is actually the Talk page link \u003cem\u003etransformed into\u003c\/em\u003e (or replaced by) the yellow notice. In other words the yellow notice IS a special version of the talk page link. I'm noting this because it might mean that option #2 in the description is more complicated than we thought (since in new vector the Talk link isn't exposed on the page, it's inside the user menu).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhile I like the revised placement and styling suggestions, given that this talk page message notification is actually the talk page link transformed, it may also make sense to revise the copy to be more obvious that why when selecting the notice, the person will be taken to their Talk page. Perhaps something as simple as "You have a new Talk page message".\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-yellow\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_336\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ud6rnp3rmsr7saljq7p2\/PHID-FILE-vkf4uailm7tdvok63w6m\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7052954\" id=\"7052954\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-yellow\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-up phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_335\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003eovasileva\u003c\/a\u003e raised the priority of this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eMedium\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eHigh\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7052954\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_334\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 3 2021, 1:41 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-05-03 13:41:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_345\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/vkbdrif2qx4aoarbhmbr\/PHID-FILE-wgm76sunyarnnrruhqyb\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7053463\" id=\"7053463\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_344\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/alexhollender_WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e alexhollender_WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7053463\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_343\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 3 2021, 3:22 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-05-03 15:22:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_341\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_342\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#7052527\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#7052527\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6820477\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6820477\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@alexhollender\u003c\/span\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ovasileva\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdlrobson\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e just pointed out to me that the yellow notice doesn't get \u003cem\u003eadded\u003c\/em\u003e to the user links, it is actually the Talk page link \u003cem\u003etransformed into\u003c\/em\u003e (or replaced by) the yellow notice. In other words the yellow notice IS a special version of the talk page link. I'm noting this because it might mean that option #2 in the description is more complicated than we thought (since in new vector the Talk link isn't exposed on the page, it's inside the user menu).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhile I like the revised placement and styling suggestions, given that this talk page message notification is actually the talk page link transformed, it may also make sense to revise the copy to be more obvious that why when selecting the notice, the person will be taken to their Talk page. Perhaps something as simple as "You have a new Talk page message".\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eah interesting \u2014 I guess we haven't clarified: if we go with the floating notice\/alert thing, will clicking on it lead you directly to your talk page, or is it just there to indicate that you should click on the bell icon (which in turn has a link to your talk page message)?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_354\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ud6rnp3rmsr7saljq7p2\/PHID-FILE-vkf4uailm7tdvok63w6m\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7053467\" id=\"7053467\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_353\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003eovasileva\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7053467\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_352\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 3 2021, 3:26 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-05-03 15:26:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_350\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_351\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#7053463\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#7053463\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@alexhollender\u003c\/span\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#7052527\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#7052527\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T274428#6820477\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT274428#6820477\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@alexhollender\u003c\/span\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ovasileva\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ovasileva\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Jdlrobson\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RHo\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@RHo\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e just pointed out to me that the yellow notice doesn't get \u003cem\u003eadded\u003c\/em\u003e to the user links, it is actually the Talk page link \u003cem\u003etransformed into\u003c\/em\u003e (or replaced by) the yellow notice. In other words the yellow notice IS a special version of the talk page link. I'm noting this because it might mean that option #2 in the description is more complicated than we thought (since in new vector the Talk link isn't exposed on the page, it's inside the user menu).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhile I like the revised placement and styling suggestions, given that this talk page message notification is actually the talk page link transformed, it may also make sense to revise the copy to be more obvious that why when selecting the notice, the person will be taken to their Talk page. Perhaps something as simple as "You have a new Talk page message".\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eah interesting \u2014 I guess we haven't clarified: if we go with the floating notice\/alert thing, will clicking on it lead you directly to your talk page, or is it just there to indicate that you should click on the bell icon (which in turn has a link to your talk page message)?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e+1 on updating the copy . In terms of the link - I think we should keep it. Otherwise, we'd have to distinguish which message we're referring to in the notifications list.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_357\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/zpvr2eembyewyy7kmoah\/PHID-FILE-q3f7troopzjjk6grs5j2\/profile-HelloKittyLounge)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"7070573\" id=\"7070573\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_356\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Jdlrobson\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003eJdlrobson\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/notifications\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003eNotifications\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#7070573\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_355\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 7 2021, 8:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2021-05-07 20:25:51 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