| Nnemo | |
| Aug 27 2015, 8:18 PM |
| F2466716: Wikipedia-bug-broken-french | |
| Aug 27 2015, 8:33 PM |
Safari on iOS 8 on iPad.
I go on the site fr.wikipedia.org
I get a notice in broken french: "NicoV vous ont mentionné dans leur message […]" ("NicoV have mentioned you in their message […]").
The plural is incorrect, and inconsistent.
See the screen photo to come.
The singular is expected here. It would be consistent with the other notice, which correctly uses the singular.
Can you please correct "ont" into "a" and "leur" into "son"?
Merci. Bisous. :-)
Nnemo
It's entirely up to each user how they want to be described and MediaWiki respects the user's wish.
See the settings on Special:Preferences under "Internationalisation > How do you prefer to be described?"
While "a" still works, "son" would not due to "sa".
I am sure that NicoV never did set Wikipedia to describe him as several persons. Anyway, this possibility does not exist in the prefs, as far as I know.
Whatever the wish of the user, the sentence here is incorrect in french.
In correct french, for one user, the singular is the only possibility: "a" and "son" always work, and only these words work. No "sa" may come here, even if the user is a girl. We say "son message" because "message" is masculine. [ It may seem strange, but in french every noun has a gender, feminine or masculine. :-) ]
Hah, my French is getting rusty. :) Thanks, of course you are right.
The setting in the MediaWiki preferences is ""When mentioning you, the software will use gender neutral words whenever possible""/"Lorsqu’il fera mention de vous, le logiciel utilisera des mots de genre neutre, quand c’est possible".
And in French that setting currently seems to mean that it sounds like "several persons", as you've put it.
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-flow&language=fr&filter=&action=translate lists the string
$1 {{GENDER:$5|vous}} {{GENDER:$1|a mentionné|a mentionnée|ont mentionné}} dans {{GENDER:$1|son|son|leur}} <span class="plainlinks">[$2 message]</span> sur « $3 », lié à « $4 »so this is a topic to discuss with the French translators on translatewiki.net instead of Phabricator...
Thank you, @Aklapper
I will try to correct the translation(s) on that page.
By the way, on that page there is a big mess between suppress / delete / hide / masquer / supprimer... English and french are inconsistent, and even english is inconsistent with english. I think that a good start would be to avoid saying "suppress" and "delete" to mean two different things.
@Nnemo Theorically, all translations concerning suppress/hide/delete have been updated: T111778: French needs a different translation for hide vs. suppress in Flow (?)