Okay.

This solution to disable Flow isn't acceptable.

We disabled Flow on two existing wikis, because they already used the Topic: namespace.

As a new wiki, you don't currently use the Topic: namespace, as the wiki hasn't been created, so we can plan something ahead to avoid the namespace conflict.

The solutions are:

• you don't seem to to use the Topic: namespace on Incubator test, so perhaps it's better to wait there is an actual need for this namespace (it's better to let your community create namespaces when they need it instead of cargocult-copyinh the en.wikiversity namespaces)
• if you want to use a en.wikiversity-like Topic: namespace right now, you can simply pick another name, so there won't be any conflict

So, no, we aren't going to disable Flow on a BRAND NEW wiki for a NAMESPACE CONFLICT.

A namespace conflict occurs on already existing wiki. For a new wiki, the solution is easy, pick another name for the Topic: namespace or drop it.

Just to be sure, have you tried Flow?

@Jayprakash12345 provided me by mail a translation for the Flow Topic: namespace, so I opened T172093 and have submitted a Gerrit change to merge this translation. Thanks Jay for that.

In T168765#3485335, @Dereckson wrote:

@Jayprakash12345 provided me by mail a translation for the Flow Topic: namespace, so I opened T172093 and have submitted a Gerrit change to merge this translation. Thanks Jay for that.

I reviewed patch. But it gives only +1 point. So anyone can review. The translation is correct

Thanks

Flow Topic: translation will be live at 1.30.0-wmf.12.

This solution to disable Flow isn't acceptable.

I totally disagree here. If the translation has been provided then the potential namespace conflict is resolved, but if the community does not want Flow from starters we do not need to force them into having such a feature.

In T168765#3487579, @MarcoAurelio wrote:

This solution to disable Flow isn't acceptable.

I totally disagree here. If the translation has been provided then the potential namespace conflict is resolved, but if the community does not want Flow from starters we do not need to force them into having such a feature.

Some user opposing to enable this. So I was made new section for better decision.https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiversity_Hindi#Configuration

Thanks

Just a note: Even if your community decides to have flow disabled, it'll probably stay enabled because system administrators hold ultimate authority on every conf change.

In T168765#3488685, @Jayprakash12345 wrote:

Some user opposing to enable this. So I was made new section for better decision.https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiversity_Hindi#Configuration

Good idea. Can you create a link to the documentation, so that people will know about Flow? We will not force you to have Flow, I just want to see people informed. :)

I advice you to keep the Topic: namespace for Flow only. It will avoid configuration conflicts if the community decides to have Flow in the future.

Change 369921 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages@master] Add Hindi Wikiversity

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/369921

Restbase is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/369919/

Change 369924 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[operations/puppet@production] Add hiwikiversity to labsrecursor

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/369924

Change 368165 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Initial configuration for hiwikiversity

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/368165

Change 369928 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[mediawiki/services/parsoid@master] Add hiwikiversity and wikimania2018wiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/369928

Wiki has been created. Looks like Wikidata is broken...

In T168765#3497550, @Reedy wrote:

Wiki has been created. Looks like Wikidata is broken...

Adding them.

Look good https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5296&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=531399495&oldid=526055484

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-08-03T18:15:07Z] <mobrovac@tin> Started deploy [restbase/deploy@65af18d]: Expose the recommendation API publicly and activate hiwikiversity - T170877 T168765

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-08-03T18:23:40Z] <mobrovac@tin> Finished deploy [restbase/deploy@65af18d]: Expose the recommendation API publicly and activate hiwikiversity - T170877 T168765 (duration: 08m 33s)

Change 369928 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/services/parsoid@master] Add hiwikiversity, techconductwiki and wikimania2018wiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/369928

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-08-03T18:59:33Z] <arlolra> Updated Parsoid to 6e1a20d5 (T168765, T155038, T165977)

Change 369921 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages@master] Add Hindi Wikiversity

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/369921

Change 369926 merged by Nuria:
[analytics/refinery@master] Add hiwikiversity

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/369926

[http://tools.wmflabs.org/siteviews/?platform=all-access&source=pageviews&agent=user&start=2017-08-03&end=2017-08-08&sites=hi.wikiversity.org] this link works. But
[http://tools.wmflabs.org/topviews?project=hi.wikiversity.org&platform=all-access&date=2017-07] this does not work.

Why would it work for July 2017? The wiki wasn't created till August?

In case that links don't work: Here you go, and... there you go

In T168765#3511265, @gh87 wrote:

In case that links don't work: Here you go, and... there you go

Just the first link, 2nd link tells me

Invalid parameters! Invalid project, using defaults instead. See the documentation for more information.

@Reedy Should the To-Do list be completed before this task is closed?

Actually, we want to keep a standard common set of configuration on wikis, and as such, the best course of action would be to forget the Topic: namespace and find a new name.

You don't want to use Flow right now, this is acceptable, but to introduce knowingly and consciously a namespace conflict isn't a best practice, which is not.

Change 369924 merged by Rush:
[operations/puppet@production] Add hiwikiversity to labsrecursor

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/369924

Who can connect hiwikiversity to labs. xtools.wmflabs.org does not work yet.

In T168765#3555004, @Jayprakash12345 wrote:

Who can connect hiwikiversity to labs. xtools.wmflabs.org does not work yet.

If it's about XTools, probably one of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/members/803/

Was the maintain-views step not completely performed?

MariaDB [hiwikiversity_p]> show tables;
Empty set (0.00 sec)

In T171829#3553943, @Marostegui wrote:

The blocker is fixed and so is this one too:

mysql:root@localhost [hiwikiversity_p]> show tables;
+---------------------------+
| Tables_in_hiwikiversity_p |
+---------------------------+
| abuse_filter              |
| abuse_filter_action       |
| abuse_filter_log          |
| archive                   |
| archive_userindex         |
| babel                     |
| category                  |
| categorylinks             |
| change_tag                |
| externallinks             |
| filearchive               |
| filearchive_userindex     |
| geo_tags                  |
| global_block_whitelist    |
| globalblocks              |
| image                     |
| imagelinks                |
| interwiki                 |
| ipblocks                  |
| ipblocks_ipindex          |
| iwlinks                   |
| l10n_cache                |
| langlinks                 |
| linter                    |
| logging                   |
| logging_logindex          |
| logging_userindex         |
| math                      |
| module_deps               |
| oldimage                  |
| oldimage_userindex        |
| page                      |
| page_props                |
| page_restrictions         |
| pagelinks                 |
| protected_titles          |
| recentchanges             |
| recentchanges_userindex   |
| redirect                  |
| revision                  |
| revision_userindex        |
| site_identifiers          |
| site_stats                |
| sites                     |
| tag_summary               |
| templatelinks             |
| transcode                 |
| updatelog                 |
| user                      |
| user_former_groups        |
| user_groups               |
| user_properties           |
| valid_tag                 |
| wbc_entity_usage          |
+---------------------------+
54 rows in set (0.00 sec)


mysql:root@localhost [hiwikiversity_p]> show create table tag_summary\G
*************************** 1. row ***************************
                View: tag_summary
         Create View: CREATE ALGORITHM=UNDEFINED DEFINER=`viewmaster`@`%` SQL SECURITY DEFINER VIEW `tag_summary` AS select `hiwikiversity`.`tag_summary`.`ts_id` AS `ts_id`,`hiwikiversity`.`tag_summary`.`ts_rc_id` AS `ts_rc_id`,`hiwikiversity`.`tag_summary`.`ts_log_id` AS `ts_log_id`,`hiwikiversity`.`tag_summary`.`ts_rev_id` AS `ts_rev_id`,`hiwikiversity`.`tag_summary`.`ts_tags` AS `ts_tags` from `hiwikiversity`.`tag_summary`
character_set_client: utf8
collation_connection: utf8_general_ci
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

In T168765#3561969, @Krenair wrote:

Was the maintain-views step not completely performed?

MariaDB [hiwikiversity_p]> show tables;
Empty set (0.00 sec)

Looks like it is missing on 1001 and 1003 (I assumed Andrew did it there). I will do it in a sec

In T168765#3561986, @Marostegui wrote:

In T168765#3561969, @Krenair wrote:

Was the maintain-views step not completely performed?

MariaDB [hiwikiversity_p]> show tables;
Empty set (0.00 sec)

Looks like it is missing on 1001 and 1003 (I assumed Andrew did it there). I will do it in a sec

Done on 1001 and 1003. show tables now works

In T168765#3561990, @Marostegui wrote:

In T168765#3561986, @Marostegui wrote:

In T168765#3561969, @Krenair wrote:

Was the maintain-views step not completely performed?

MariaDB [hiwikiversity_p]> show tables;
Empty set (0.00 sec)

Looks like it is missing on 1001 and 1003 (I assumed Andrew did it there). I will do it in a sec

Done on 1001 and 1003. show tables now works

Thank you sir.

Change 378406 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zoranzoki21; owner: Zoranzoki21):
[analytics/refinery@master] Revert "Add hiwikiversity"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/378406

Change 378406 abandoned by Zoranzoki21:
Revert of commit 021795da50cc81427a538b156cb22a7911b935b6.

Reason:
Sorry.. I will abandon this patch/change.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/378406

The last unchecked checkbox was "labs". The comments above sound like there are db replicas now in labs. So.. ticket resolved?