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Wikidata: revert the erasure of P91 (sexual orientation) AND add a source (newcomer friendly)
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A mass erasure of P91 recently took place, effectively erasing the LGBTQ+ identity of the people it was present for. Many of these people are openly out, so there should be no problems finding references to add when reverting these edits.

A list has been made of the erased P91s.

The only rules:
1 .Add your name on the dashboard https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/WM_LGBT/Queering_Wikimedia_Hackathon/home

  1. enter the correct sexual orientation and add a source (dont put it back if it is not sourced properly)
  2. Remove the name from the list .https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_LGBT/Unsourced_sexual_orientation
  3. .Add #wewillnothide in the edit summary before publishing (if you want)
  4. if sourced with (Google books or Amazon links add the items in the section book items to be created

dedicated telegram channel to ask questions (labelling can be difficult it's better to ask if you dont know) : https://t.me/joinchat/Trj2kurCyq1lZTE8
Etherpad

Traduction en Français

Une suppression massive de P91 (orientation sexuelle) a eu pour pour résultat la disparition de l'orientation de personnes LGBTIQ+. Certaines de ces personnes étaient ouvertement LGBTIQ, donc trouver des références pour documenter leur orientation est facile.

Une liste a été faite de ces suppression de P91

Les seules règles :

  1. ajouter votre pseudo au dashboard https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/WM_LGBT/Queering_Wikimedia_Hackathon/home
  2. ajouter l'orientation correcte P91 si vous pouvez l'attester avec une source
  3. enlever le nom de la personne de la liste https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_LGBT/Unsourced_sexual_orientation#Participate
  4. ajouter #wewillnothide dans le commentaire avant de publier avec le nom de la personne
  5. si c'est sourcé avec Google ou Amazon ou l'équivalent , ajouter l'élément dans la section de bas de page prévue pour créer les éléments "livres" plus tard

Groupe de discussion telegram dédié (donner la bonne orientation peut être difficile il est préférable de demander si on est pas sûr·e} Queering Wikimedia Hackaton

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add #wewillnothide in the edit summary before publishing

Nattes updated the task description. (Show Details)
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We at Wiki LGBT+ have a comparable page for gender at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_LGBT/gender

I am interested in setting up something similar to establish best practices for sexual orientation

There is a proposal for best practice in the talk page of P91. I do disagree with some part of it (mostly the part about how marrying someone of the same gender is not sufficient to establish "non heterosexuality"...).

It is indicated on wikidataxhat that a similar erasure took place in 2016. Would be great to have these deletion added on to the list as well
[[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#sexual_orientation_&_European_General_Data_Protection_Regulation

Wikidata chat ]]

Traduction en Français

Une suppression massive de[[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P91| P91 ]] (orientation sexuelle) avec pour résultat la disparition de l'orientation de personnes LGBTIQ+. Certaines de ces personnes étaient ouvertement LGBTIQ, donc trouver des références pour documenter leur orientation est facile.

Une liste a été faite de ces suppression de P91
Liste des P91 supprimées

Les seules règles :
1- réverter ou ajouter P91 et ajouter la source
2 - enlever le nom de la personne de la liste
3 - ajouter #wewillnothide dans le commentaire avant de publier
4 - si c'est sourcé avec Google ou Amazon ou l'équivalent , ajouter l'élément dans la section de bas de page prévue pour créer les éléments "livres" plus tard

Nattes updated the task description. (Show Details)

I'm adding 3 tables where it is easy to see what language versions the person has an article in. I think this should make it easier to check if the article already has references that can be used in Wikidata.

Could we use an etherpad-based list or similar? The Wikidata userpage takes a looonng time to load and even more to save, making edits prone to conflicts. You can avoid that by editing only a subsection but when you move Q items from a section to another (e.g. Google Books -sourcing) you must edit the whole page. I’m losing a lot of time making one edit per item to avoid edit conflicts.

I created a dashboard so we can have some stats:

https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/WM_LGBT/Queering_Wikimedia_Hackathon?enroll=qbunxayj

Just so we can have a rough idea on how long it take to deal with the backlog

Could we use an etherpad-based list or similar? The Wikidata userpage takes a looonng time to load and even more to save, making edits prone to conflicts. You can avoid that by editing only a subsection but when you move Q items from a section to another (e.g. Google Books -sourcing) you must edit the whole page. I’m losing a lot of time making one edit per item to avoid edit conflicts.

How did you solve this? Are you using an etherpad list somewhere?

Could we use an etherpad-based list or similar? The Wikidata userpage takes a looonng time to load and even more to save, making edits prone to conflicts. You can avoid that by editing only a subsection but when you move Q items from a section to another (e.g. Google Books -sourcing) you must edit the whole page. I’m losing a lot of time making one edit per item to avoid edit conflicts.

How did you solve this? Are you using an etherpad list somewhere?

I created a framapad here https://mypads.framapad.org/mypads/?/mypads/group/queering-wikipedia-do2xa57j8/pad/view/queering-wikimedia-hackaton-0m5kh673a
But not sure what @Okhjon wants to do with it

I think the point was to have the list in an etherpad, where it's easier to avoid edit conflicts. The list also loads really slowly (I have a crappy internet connection).

For later on, quite a few of this user's edits are on the list since they were unsourced.

How did you solve this? Are you using an etherpad list somewhere?

I stopped doing this task altogether since it was too hard to use the Wikidata page.

Thanks, I’ll use the etherpad since it appears to have four editors on it while the framapad has only two (including me).

How did you solve this? Are you using an etherpad list somewhere?

I stopped doing this task altogether since it was too hard to use the Wikidata page.

Thanks, I’ll use the etherpad since it appears to have four editors on it while the framapad has only two (including me).

Hi! I miss the section of "Books" to be created that appeared on the original WD page...could you please add it to the Etherpad?

I created a dashboard so we can have some stats:

https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/WM_LGBT/Queering_Wikimedia_Hackathon?enroll=qbunxayj

Just so we can have a rough idea on how long it take to deal with the backlog

I had made some editions, with the hashtag, including the creation of Q elements for source editions. My counter is empty, though

I created a dashboard so we can have some stats:

https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/WM_LGBT/Queering_Wikimedia_Hackathon?enroll=qbunxayj

Just so we can have a rough idea on how long it take to deal with the backlog

I had made some editions, with the hashtag, including the creation of Q elements for source editions. My counter is empty, though

Did you add your pseudo to the dashboard?

Hello all,
I have a question about the hackathon showcase :) https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmhackshowcase2020
Who's going to present? (we can only allow one person)
You indicated that you don't want to be recorded: however, the situation changed a bit, as we will stream the whole thing directly online. Is it fine if you don't share your camera, only your screen, and your voice so you can present?
If not, you could also prepare a video that we would broadcast for you during the showcase.
Thanks for your understanding!

People decided that I should be the one going there, and yeah, I will hide my camera. I am working on the presentation right now, and going to get a 2nd laptop since mine is stuck with firefox on linux.

Set up project pages to continue during month of pride.
LGBT user group notified.
Francophone wikipedia : done

Hi, the Wikimedia Hackathon 2020 took place two months ago. Can you please provide an update on this task? If this task was worked on and finished, then please change the task status to resolved. If this task is still valid and should stay open, then please associate an active project tag to this task so this task can be found on an active project workboard. Thanks!

It's still ongoing, but I'm not sure what workboard to put it on.

Proposing to decline this task; as the Wikimedia-Hackathon-2020 is past, and as there is no other active project tag on this task.

Hey considering having another go at this during this week end's hackaton to finish the job started last year

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2021/Schedule

the project page on wikidata is here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_LGBT/Unsourced_sexual_orientation#Dead_people

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This appears to be a past hackathon project that has now concluded, and as a goal outside the context of the hackathon (as it now is), it would be outside Phabricator's scope.