Variants label on kk.wikipedia shows "disable" instead of currently chosen variant
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Go to https://kk.wikipedia.org/
See that the variants dropdown shows disable instead of the first item

Go to https://sr.wikipedia.org/
See that the Variants dropdown correctly shows the current, default, first item

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	rMW16bbfcf28875 Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.

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Status	Subtype	Assigned	Task
Invalid		None	T282525 Consider reducing the number of Kazakh language variants
Invalid		None	T282526 Improve the display of the Kazakh language variants on the desktop
Resolved		Nikerabbit	T282520 Fix unnecessary "disable" variants from the Kazakh Wikipedia on mobile web
Resolved		sgrabarczuk	T255350 Variants label on kk.wikipedia shows "disable" instead of currently chosen variant
Resolved		Nikerabbit	T66534 Remaining "disable"s in variantname-*
Resolved	BUG REPORT	Nikerabbit	T285073 Restore variant name translations
Open		None	T332465 Reimplement: disable display of language variants in variant menu without using CSS custmization

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Aklapper created this task.Jun 13 2020, 6:58 PM

Aklapper renamed this task from Variants label on kk.wikipedia shows "disabled" instead of currently chosen variant to Variants label on kk.wikipedia shows "disable" instead of currently chosen variant.Jun 13 2020, 7:04 PM

Aklapper updated the task description. (Show Details)

Not 100% sure what's going on here. Maybe language team know?

Per Language-Team, we do not maintain language converter due to lack of knowledge how it works.

I did, however, look where the message came from and found https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/+/51710d36681c46a92b4fdccd709dee9960773468/languages/i18n/kk.json#22

https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Variantname-kk/kk&action=history shows it did not come from translatewiki.net

Apparently it has been so since 2007. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/b03b99615ef7b308219571f11a03e952a82c2339%5E%21/languages/messages/MessagesKk.php

I also noticed they seem to have some JavaScript running on kkwikipedia to hide "disabled" in monobook and modern skins. I don't see it in Timeless, so maybe there too. Maybe they had it for Vector too but it got broken?

Could ask the community why is it like that, or find a translator who can provide a proper label for the message.

Thanks @Nikerabbit that's super helpful!

ovasileva triaged this task as Medium priority.Jul 7 2020, 3:53 PM

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Jdlrobson moved this task from Needs triage to Menus on the Vector (legacy skin) board.Jul 21 2020, 11:42 PM

ovasileva moved this task from Incoming to Q2 2020-2021 on the Desktop Improvements (Vector 2022) board.Jul 24 2020, 3:38 PM

Jdlrobson assigned this task to ovasileva.Sep 3 2020, 9:31 PM

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Maybe just rename variantname-kk to ‘unconverted’, which is what Chinese does in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/refs/heads/master/languages/i18n/zh.json. This should help reduce confusion.

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ovasileva edited projects, added Web-Team-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2020-21); removed Web-Team-Backlog.Feb 22 2021, 1:38 PM

Easily replicated by:

$wgLanguageCode = 'kk';

This also happens on ike-latn language code.

The disable keyword has no meaning in the MediaWiki codebase and as @Nikerabbit says is in this weird state due to user scripts (its hidden in https://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8:Common.js)

With safe mode on I see various menu items called "disable"
https://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8B_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%82?safemode=1

Screen Shot 2021-02-25 at 4.10.54 PM.png (702×1 px, 188 KB)

if the variants are not being used perhaps its better to drop them completely from the software.

If we want to add support we should talk to the kk community to understand their motives here. Otherwise I suggest we close this task as INVALID.

i talked with Olga today about this in my one-on-one. We plan to resolve this as invalid, but we'd like to do a bit of community outreach here. Olga will bring it up in her next 1-on-1 with Szymon.

ovasileva edited projects, added Web-Team-Backlog (Tracking); removed Web-Team-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2020-21).Mar 4 2021, 12:09 PM

I somewhat broke this, see T285073: Restore variant name translations.

"disable" originally means not showing the varinat in the variant menu. However, the functionality has been removed a while ago.

It seems this issue have been fixed?

Winston_Sung moved this task from Untriaged to Multilanguage & Language variants on the I18n board.Jul 16 2021, 6:43 PM