@Trizek-WMF -- I think we should plan to do this deployment in the same style as Danish Wikipedia, where we make the features available for the experienced users to try. What do you think?

It is actually the plan we agreed on. :)

@Trizek-WMF -- this is now on our sprint board for you to move across. Please put it in Ready for Development when we should deploy in dark mode.

Change 664797 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm; owner: Urbanecm):
[mediawiki/extensions/GrowthExperiments@master] Add Thai aliases

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/664797

Change 664849 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm; owner: Urbanecm):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable GrowthExperiments on thwiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/664849

@Tgr I prepared the NewcomerTasks.json file at https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%89%E0%B9%83%E0%B8%8A%E0%B9%89:Martin_Urbanec_(WMF)/NewcomerTasks.json. Can you review and move to NS_MEDIAWIKI? Thanks!

Change 664797 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/GrowthExperiments@master] Add Thai aliases

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/664797

In T274646#6838269, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

@Tgr I prepared the NewcomerTasks.json file at https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%89%E0%B9%83%E0%B8%8A%E0%B9%89:Martin_Urbanec_(WMF)/NewcomerTasks.json. Can you review and move to NS_MEDIAWIKI? Thanks!

An abuse filter was giving me trouble so I ended up copying manually.

Thanks!

@MMiller_WMF @Trizek-WMF Hi, so, this is prepared now. The special page aliases should be deployed next Thursday (provided train goes by the plan). We can shadow-deploy to experienced users at any time, or wait for the aliases, up to you.

@Trizek-WMF Fyi, this is the number of tasks that will be available on thwiki:

AFAICS, there are zero links tasks. Is that a concern?

Thank you for the analysis, @Urbanecm_WMF.

The community will have the opportunity to review all links and templates, like Danish Wikipedia does.

I'm working on messaging this community, and surfacing this lack of links is deftly helping. I'm going to highlight it.

Change 664849 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable GrowthExperiments on thwiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/664849

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-02-22T19:06:13Z] <urbanecm@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 902b6854b5d56fde9fbf5d2c779282049bf7288a: Enable GrowthExperiments on thwiki (T274646) (duration: 00m 56s)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-02-22T19:08:25Z] <urbanecm@deploy1001> Synchronized dblists/growthexperiments.dblist: 902b6854b5d56fde9fbf5d2c779282049bf7288a: Enable GrowthExperiments on thwiki (T274646) (duration: 00m 54s)

The features were just deployed to thwiki in silent mode.

The community has been informed.

Checked `thwiki.

Please confirm that the following is expected - Special:Homepage can be enabled via Special:Preferences. I created a new user - Homepage was not enabled, but there were a message with links directing to go and enable Homepage in Preferences.

• lots of untranslated labels
• no 'Add link' tasks
• no Mentorship module
• Special:Homepage -> พิเศษ:หน้าแรก - is not found, only พิเศษ:Homepage is found. I checked for Special:RecentChanges ->พิเศษ:ปรับปรุงล่าสุด -- both (English and Thai) are found.
• there are small visual discrepancies. I guess that's because of translation is not done. I compared with testwiki for possible regression - no regressions. I will re-check after ore translation will be done.

thwiki	testwiki

Translation of the interface moved from 4% to 45%. Great! :)

I've created basic copyediting page: https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/วิกิพีเดีย:การตรวจสอบต้นฉบับพื้นฐาน

But may I ask for the original five "learn more" links in the (English Wikipedia) Suggested edits? Some links do not seem right.

In T274646#6871087, @Horus wrote:

I've created basic copyediting page: https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/วิกิพีเดีย:การตรวจสอบต้นฉบับพื้นฐาน

Thank you!

But may I ask for the original five "learn more" links in the (English Wikipedia) Suggested edits? Some links do not seem right.

If you think some other links would be better, please suggest them. I just added the description for each task at the top of this page.

In T274646#6886072, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

In T274646#6871087, @Horus wrote:

I've created basic copyediting page: https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/วิกิพีเดีย:การตรวจสอบต้นฉบับพื้นฐาน

I added them to the on-wiki configuration.

In my opinion:

• "Add Links", if I'm correct, should link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Link (or some easier version such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_diff_and_link_guide). The old link in Thai Wikipedia linked to an old page, which is also very short.
• "Update article" currently linked to an equivalent page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing and labelled as บทความต้องการการตรวจสอบ (articles needing patrols). I don't think this pose much issue, but I want to make sure this is originally intended.

@Horus, we rely on your expertise concerning which pages and templates should be used. Feel free to give us better links, if they exist. :)

For "Add a link", don't you think a page in Thai would be nicer than a one in English?

For "update an article". we followed the interwiki link. If a better page exists, please give us the link so that we can change it!

Hello, After some chat with Horus on discord I do agree that Learn more link of task Add Links should be https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/วิธีใช้:ลิงก์ rather the currently one.

I think the reason why Add links has 0 task is because many of article that want wikilinks also has many issues that other template (i.e. rewrite-whole-article template) may apply. So in future some editor might run a bot to tag those with {{ต้องการวิกิลิงก์}} some how.

I just added the link, see https://th.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4:NewcomerTasks.json&diff=9295808&oldid=9288067.

Change 670577 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm; owner: Urbanecm):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] thwiki: Make Growth features available to newcomers

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/670577

Change 670577 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] thwiki: Make Growth features available to newcomers

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/670577

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-03-10T20:48:53Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 92ae985df5411de7ff983a778aebde0e10f6253e: thwiki: Make Growth features available to newcomers (T274646) (duration: 01m 08s)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-03-10T20:53:34Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 92ae985df5411de7ff983a778aebde0e10f6253e: thwiki: Make Growth features available to newcomers (T274646) (duration: 01m 07s)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-03-10T20:54:54Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized dblists/growthexperiments.dblist: 92ae985df5411de7ff983a778aebde0e10f6253e: thwiki: Make Growth features available to newcomers (T274646) (duration: 01m 08s)

In T274646#6902474, @Stashbot wrote:

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-03-10T20:53:34Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 92ae985df5411de7ff983a778aebde0e10f6253e: thwiki: Make Growth features available to newcomers (T274646) (duration: 01m 07s)

In T274646#6902477, @Stashbot wrote:

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-03-10T20:54:54Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized dblists/growthexperiments.dblist: 92ae985df5411de7ff983a778aebde0e10f6253e: thwiki: Make Growth features available to newcomers (T274646) (duration: 01m 08s)

Those two messages were supposed to go to T276830 instead.

@Urbanecm_WMF what is the status of this deployment? When I monitor Recent Changes on Thai Wikipedia, I can't find any edit being made using the Growth features.

Hi @Trizek-WMF, I just double checked the status of deployment and I can
confirm the features are indeed deployed to 80 % newcomers, as intended (or
at least to *some* newcomers, as I didn’t create 100 accounts :-)).

See
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cJp9VuJ424zT6nplLES5hV_7w-WIDj9f/view?usp=drivesdk
for a recording of a sign up of my testing account. Afaics, all features
are enabled and working.

If there are no edits made by real newcomers, it probably means that the
newcomers do not use the features for some reason. Maybe we should look
into EventLogging data to see more?